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So instead of making separate threads, I thought it might be helpful making this thread to ask questions.
I'll start of: How long does it take for the global version to go on sale after the Chinese one?
I current have a OnePlus 5T but I would like to upgrade to this phone (Mi 8) I was wondering where can I buy this phone and ship to the US? I know there's not market or anything. But I don't want to to pay double price either from a third party.
Thanks!
Kevoon7 said:
I current have a OnePlus 5T but I would like to upgrade to this phone (Mi 8) I was wondering where can I buy this phone and ship to the US? I know there's not market or anything. But I don't want to to pay double price either from a third party.
Thanks!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/to-buy-t3800447
Average sot without heavy gaming?
Is it treble enabled?
sure, it comes pre installed with android 8.1
Hi guys. Since this is a Q&A thread, i'm wondering:
I bought my Mi 8 today, china version. Will I still be able to flash global software on it, or just the chinese firmware?
And when it comes to flashing AOSP, will there be any difference?
Thanks a lot.
I'm not a noot in flashing, I've had Nexus for the last couple years,and i'm quite confident with it. Just not aware if it will be same rom for both versions or not.
bcuraman said:
Hi guys. Since this is a Q&A thread, i'm wondering:
I bought my Mi 8 today, china version. Will I still be able to flash global software on it, or just the chinese firmware?
And when it comes to flashing AOSP, will there be any difference?
Thanks a lot.
I'm not a noot in flashing, I've had Nexus for the last couple years,and i'm quite confident with it. Just not aware if it will be same rom for both versions or not.
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Yes, when global is released.
Same with AOSP.
Anyone in USA bought a mi 8 and which one to buy with the right bands
ermacwins said:
So instead of making separate threads, I thought it might be helpful making this thread to ask questions.
I'll start of: How long does it take for the global version to go on sale after the Chinese one?
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hello. does the samsung amoled screen of mi 8 deteriorates? easily? is there a way to prevent it? im having second thoughts of buying it because of it. i hoping it will remain same quality after 3 years like ips.
- Does someone (especially from germany) tried WifiCalling? Does it work?
- Does someone tried a USB Power Delivery 3.0 Charger, how fast (how many watts) does it charge?
Big Boar said:
hello. does the samsung amoled screen of mi 8 deteriorates? easily? is there a way to prevent it? im having second thoughts of buying it because of it. i hoping it will remain same quality after 3 years like ips.
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Do you mean any form of burn in? I have it since 12/06 and no burn in at all. (what a surprise )
I think it will not have much troubles with burn in, because it has full screen gestures (so no buttons which can burn in).
The navigation bar eventually can burn in, but I think that will be not annoying.
does it have fingerprint gesture? always listening ok google?
coconutxyz said:
does it have fingerprint gesture? always listening ok google?
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No Fingerprint Gestures and Always Listening OK Google for now. (first can be archived with apps)
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No Fingerprint Gestures and OK Google for now. (first can be archived with apps, second will be available when miui global version will be launched for Mi8)
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are you sure about the second one? as in screen is locked and off but i could still call out google assistant?
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are you sure about the second one? as in screen is locked and off but i could still call out google assistant?
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Sorry i read over the "always listening" - i dont know if this will be available.
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Sorry i read over the "always listening" - i dont know if this will be available.
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i see, thanks a lot for the help!!
Mi 8 is released in hong kong, and reading the site, it suggests that the nfc wallet can be used for services and specifically mentions google pay. Does this mean that there is a global rom now for mi 8, as google pay requires google services and afiak no chinese rom has these installed?
https://www.mi.com/hk/mi8/
I'm guessing it doesn't ship with Google Play. Is this hard to install? Do you need to unlock bootloader for the eventual global rom?
white43 said:
I'm guessing it doesn't ship with Google Play. Is this hard to install? Do you need to unlock bootloader for the eventual global rom?
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Google Services arent hard to install. You just need the Google Installer Apk which installs you all services, without the need off unlocking bootloader or root the devices before.
I dont know if you need an unlocked bootloader for the global rom - I would say no but i can be wrong.
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
Yup, I'm on the same boat.
Me too.
I have the S8+ TMO. And when the v40 thinq comes out I plan to go back to LG. It's no fun without root. I miss A.R.I.S.E., being able to debloat my rom, trying out kernels, and changing my fonts to abeatbykai. Sigh.....I miss those days!
If we get Root for the LG V40 ThinQ then do you think there would be good developer support?
As an alternative, Im looking at the Pixel 3 XL, but would prefer to have the 3.5mm jack and sd card support.
For me is highly recommended. With LG and the implementation of the quad dacs I think having root may help with triggering high impedance mode. I'd still be using my V30 today if I would have bought an unlocked version off the bat instead of TMO. This was back in the day when root wasn't available for the TMO but the unlocked version had it in like a week or so. I'm dumping my Pixel 2 XL which has root for the unlocked version of the LG V40.
On a side note the guys at my local TMO allowed me to play with their demo of the V40! Loved it! The screen was awesome, like it's just all screen no bezels. not sure about the headphone jack being on the bottom this time around but we'll see how it goes. Holding it got me super excited about the phone.
rooting is a waste of time so no.
I don't care about root anymore. This isn't an LG G2X that needs root. Phones have come a long way
If this phone gets to be as easily unlockable as a Nexus/Pixel, I'd be willing to consider getting it to replace my 6P.
No root = no development = no custom ROM
Look at the most recent models sections. There's no more development section.
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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No root = no development = no custom ROM
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So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
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No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
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I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
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Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore.
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First, there is functionality to rooting even just on stock firmware. On the V30/V30+/V30S you can enable High Impedance Mode (HIM) on the Quad DAC without LG''s "permission" (which needs 50 ohms or higher headsets). You can also enable "dual speaker" mode. (The mods on that thread is more advanced than the original HIM mod, same developer.) There's plenty of other root-required mods that add functionality, like silent camera files. I'm just comparing the V30 to the V40, because it's the direct successor from a year ago and we DO have root on all V30 variants.
For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
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So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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You should use iPhone then
Jericksen92 said:
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
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This.
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer. See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone.
The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
And you're not owning your phone until you delete all Google's crap up to google play services and play services framework. Even if you have root but have google on phone it's Google who owns it not you. That was proven dozens times
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having r
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Wrong in so many ways
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And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer.
See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens. Yes, I have a couple of folders on my desktop, but for the most part I have my most used app clustered in categories on separate pages. For apps I use occasionally, those stay in the app drawer. Like a closet.
Same concept with Programs folder and desktop shortcuts on Windows and even the QuickLaunch bar (which I still use, even on Windows 10). Programs folder (app drawer) is for ALL installed programs (apps), desktop shortcuts/QuickLaunch/Pinned to Start menu are for frequently used programs (or apps with Android).
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For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
But I have one anyway -- on all my Androids for quite some time, because I OWN my devices.
I also have a script to reboot my Windows PC every night. Same concept.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
https://amp.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
And some carriers remove that feature. I don't see it on my phone and my ROOTED app is much better.
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Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
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Billy Madison said:
You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
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You know better -- or should -- so not sure why you even said this. OEM/carrier can push updates no matter what you choose -- unless you own your phone with root:
https://thenextweb.com/mobile/2017/03/24/samsung-galaxy-note-7-disable-charging/
Samsung will remotely kill all unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units
The electronics giant announced it will begin remotely phasing out the last remaining units of its handset by forcing software updates that will prevent still unreturned Note 7 devices from charging, according to The Korea Herald.
Rumors that Samsung might force software updates to remotely brick unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units first began circulating last September, but were ultimately confirmed three months later in December.
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Samsung pushed those updates no matter what settings were chosen. Also, I've seen over and over people who got updated with OTHER phones,no matter what settings they chose. It's happened too frequently to be accidents. Carriers/OEMs own those phones, not you. If they decide to force an update, they'll force an update... whether you want it or not.
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Rooting is a philosophy of ownership, just like being admin of your PC. With root you can decide what happens and when, what is installed or not, how things are.
It's not about how stock is so "improved" you don't need to root. If you are saying that, then you are not even in the same discussion as me.
Sure, one day the the phones may be so locked down you can't root them, but that's NOT something you should accept willingly.
ChazzMatt said:
Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens.
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Apps, that I don't need, stay in my 7th, 8th, 9th etc screens. It's the same as if I had them in drawer.
What I said is the CONCEPT of drawer was designed in the days when phones had scarse RAM and drawer was invented to comsume memory when using launcher. I didn't say that you must not use drawer, you may do what you see fit. It's just that I don't need drawer no more and em not using it
ChazzMatt said:
I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
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Yes, LG G7 and probabaly V30 has such ability. I thought it could reboot once a day but my mistake, only once a week. Anyway I don't see need in such feature, I may reboot phone mystelf when I think most proper time. Maybe before I'm gonna put it on charge.
Ahyway I see no need for scripted reboots neither in Android nor in Windows
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I can play with my phone, I can surf, I can listen MQA music, I can shoot HDR10 video. There's nothing that I can't which I could do if I'll root phone or install custom ROM on it
That's what I'm trying to say. Back in the 2011 day when you fought for 6500 in Antutu and custom kernel could gain you 6800 you couldn't be happier. But noadays it's vain
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
I'm gonna set mine up and use it like normal, just no updating at all until a root methods is discovered, preferably one with an unlocked bootloader and that doesn't trip Knox. I haven't had a Galaxy device since the Note 4, Knox is still a thing, right?
Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
Rooting has become a more difficult process in the last few recent years. I'm pretty sure the snapdragon variant is the one that likely won't get a root method or that it will be a long while until it comes around - I could be wrong and not trying to spread misinformation...
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
While I can obviously live without root since I did pre-order this phone, i will still be a bit sad without Viper4Android
jitz said:
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snapdragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
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I did see that option under the dev menu, but I didnt try to use it, because AFAIK, bootloader unlocking is only the first step towards a properly rooted device....
Is there any advantage for unlocking the bootloader (before a rooting method is discovered) that I'm missing?
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Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
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Here are my main reasons:
1. Titanium backup - need I say more?
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Properly block ads
You'll find plenty of other reasons here: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/all-reasons-you-should-root-your-phone-0189131/
Tel864 said:
You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snaodragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
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roaduardo said:
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
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Fair
When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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I'm aware that rooting will wipe my device clean - thats the reason I brought the question up...
But - are there any other steps in the currently known Samsung rooting methods that will also wipe my phone?
In other words - if I'll unlock the bootloader now (and factory reset my phone) - will I be able to root & keep my data and setup in the future (once a rooting method is discovered)?
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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Oh man don't even mention Titanium Backup. I had many rooted Moto phones from the original thru the G4 and even did some rom development with them. Titanium Backup was one of the first and best apps I ever paid for. The one good thing about Motos though , it was almost impossible to brick a Moto.
Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
First time with pie? Why are you trolling the forum reposting this question instead of spending a minute looking?
After you tap build number and it tells you that developer options have been enabled, go back to the top level menu and scroll all the way down. It's at the very bottom.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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Don't give people heart attacks like that, lol. Gotta have developed options at least to speed up the animations.
roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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It's under /Settings/System in Pie
jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Where are you from?
jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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LUCKY!
edopa said:
Where are you from?
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Israel,
It seems that all of the S10 variants sold here supports call recording out of the box.
Hey TMO, it is now May 2nd 2019. Us 6T owners are wondering if you have forgot about us? We are still running January security update. Maybe throw us a bone to keep us happy for a few more months.
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Hey TMO, it is now May 2nd 2019. Us 6T owners are wondering if you have forgot about us? We are still running January security update. Maybe throw us a bone to keep us happy for a few more months.
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Is there anything keeping you from moving on to the International builds or open beta builds?
Why would anyone want to use the t mobile ROM?
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Is there anything keeping you from moving on to the International builds or open beta builds?
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Why would anyone want to use the t mobile ROM?
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RCS for one. Launcher with Google feed built in without the need to root.
There are a few advantages to the T-Mobile ROM. Not a lot, but a few.
Scott said:
RCS for one. Launcher with Google feed built in without the need to root.
There are a few advantages to the T-Mobile ROM. Not a lot, but a few.
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Oh I see I never heard of RCS until you mentioned it. I only booted the stock ROM once before flashing international. I also do not think microg supports Google feeds never used a feed before. How do people admin android without root?
I used to root everything. I just don't have the time anymore plus I din't buy my phone out right and I don't feel like calling TMO to try and get out of the payoff restriction.
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Is there anything keeping you from moving on to the International builds or open beta builds?
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Is this the Vegas Big Worm?
jpeckinp said:
I used to root everything. I just don't have the time anymore plus I din't buy my phone out right and I don't feel like calling TMO to try and get out of the payoff restriction.
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I didn't buy phone outright within one hour of taking it home I was boot loader unlocked , sim unlocked and rooted. No need to call t mobile for anything. I only booted the stock operating system once. Which was only because it was required step in the process. They asked me for help in setting up my phone. I sure if you can remove Google play services and seemed to think the phone wouldn't work without Google play services.
I get the desire for RCS,but it's barely used still... I could see it mattering in the future, but as of right now, meh... I got mine unlocked by sweet talking a rep, but MSM tool is great too! As much as I love the Google feed, I simply have a shortcut for it on my home screen so I can quickly go to it if needed... Honestly, the international variant works so much better for me! Sadly, TMO really restricts software updates for so many Android manufacturers, even aside from OnePlus. By the time TMO approve a software update, new patches and updates have already released on the mainstream side.
Wow...figured someone would have mentioned it by now...but anyway. Nova Launcher has a Google Feed plugin where you can just swipe right and you have the Discover feed. No root required.
As for RCS...not that big of a deal for me. I'm using International on my TMO 6T because I got tired of the SLOWWW updates.
I'm confident the T-mobile techs have noticed your demands here on XDA. They are surely working on your requests.
Stand by.
room511 said:
I'm confident the T-mobile techs have noticed your demands here on XDA. They are surely working on your requests.
Stand by.
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Hahaha
DrRyder said:
Wow...figured someone would have mentioned it by now...but anyway. Nova Launcher has a Google Feed plugin where you can just swipe right and you have the Discover feed. No root required.
As for RCS...not that big of a deal for me. I'm using International on my TMO 6T because I got tired of the SLOWWW updates.
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Yeah, I know about the alternatives but they are just not the same as having a dedicated stock launcher with the feed built in. It just seems cleaner to me.
Right now though, I do admit I cant use RCS because no one I know has it. So I went to Beta 9 and am using CPL with the plug in.
I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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What does sim unlock mean in terms of updates? I am not sure if my sim is locked or not no proper method of testing but omni or carbon ROMs update just fine without official sim unlock. I only used the stock ROM long enough to boot the thing to fastboot to flash the international ROM. I did this inside the t mobile store while they processed the return of my wife's iPhone ten pro or what ever it was. They didn't seem to mind. Odd they let me do it with out the phone being processed yet. Mine was rooted and boot loader unlocked before I got my receipt. Their system was down for processing returns so I was there about an hour.
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What does sim unlock mean in terms of updates? I am not sure if my sim is locked or not no proper method of testing but omni or carbon ROMs update just fine without official sim unlock. I only used the stock ROM long enough to boot the thing to fastboot to flash the international ROM. I did this inside the t mobile store while they processed the return of my wife's iPhone ten pro or what ever it was. They didn't seem to mind. Odd they let me do it with out the phone being processed yet. Mine was rooted and boot loader unlocked before I got my receipt. Their system was down for processing returns so I was there about an hour.
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I find that strange with a locked bootloader. I guess you had a PC with you for all that or did the store let you use theirs. Any how good for you.
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I find that strange with a locked bootloader. I guess you had a PC with you for all that or did the store let you use theirs. Any how good for you.
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Yeah I had a windows tablet wait time was about an hour or two since the computers were down. I did walk next store to jamba juice and got a smoothie.
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Yeah I had a windows tablet wait time was about an hour or two since the computers were down. I did walk next store to jamba juice and got a smoothie.
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Oh come on...
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Yeah, I know about the alternatives but they are just not the same as having a dedicated stock launcher with the feed built in. It just seems cleaner to me.
Right now though, I do admit I cant use RCS because no one I know has it. So I went to Beta 9 and am using CPL with the plug in.
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Yeah but I would think that the advantages of having newer/faster updates outweigh having to use another launcher or having RCS. Honestly, the OnePlus Launcher leaves a lot to be desired. I got rid of it almost immediately after I got the phone after I saw its huge lack of customization. Used Nova Launcher for years and love it. I won't use these betas though. I use my phone all day and just don't wanna run into annoying bugs lol. Hopefully we get a big new stable update soon.
RCS isnt something I really *NEED*. I can see when a message was delivered...but I'm sure we'll get RCS eventually.
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Yeah but I would think that the advantages of having newer/faster updates outweigh having to use another launcher or having RCS. Honestly, the OnePlus Launcher leaves a lot to be desired. I got rid of it almost immediately after I got the phone after I saw its huge lack of customization. Used Nova Launcher for years and love it. I won't use these betas though. I use my phone all day and just don't wanna run into annoying bugs lol. Hopefully we get a big new stable update soon.
RCS isnt something I really *NEED*. I can see when a message was delivered...but I'm sure we'll get RCS eventually.
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Yeah, I can understand where you are coming from. However I would prefer the T-Mobile software. Each person has there own prerogative. Mine is T-Mo.
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I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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Check this thread out
Hi guys, i need your help. i just got my phone and both the phone and fingerprint is running on WW rom, but when i try to manually install it, it says system update failed
Note: i used device info HW to check them
Is your phone's tencent version that is supposed to have CN ROM? If so then return them directly since any tencent versions that comes with WW ROM is unofficial and may not have valid warranty. Never buy tencent version with WW ROM.
Asus have stated very clear on their forum that any tencent with WW ROM is not official device and that Asus do not produce any tencent version with WW ROM.
These phones have mostlikely been opened and person has reflashed Them to WW ROM and then resealed the packaging and then sold them online.
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Hi guys, i need your help. i just got my phone and both the phone and fingerprint is running on WW rom, but when i try to manually install it, it says system update failed
Note: i used device info HW to check them
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Are you trying to update to to 1910.44? If so, you need to flash the raw .44 rom, run flashall_AFT.cmd from the unzipped folder extracted to c drive and remove the original zip from that same folder... You need to do this in fastboot mode
my phone actually comes with WW rom fully. the package is sealed so i dont think it was opened and changed by them.
As for the update, i waa trying to update to the 1910_35 version, but failed
is there any way to check which rom it was in initially?
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my phone actually comes with WW rom fully. the package is sealed so i dont think it was opened and changed by them.
As for the update, i waa trying to update to the 1910_35 version, but failed
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If it's Tencent version, then it definitely came with CN ROM & WW was flashed and the phone sealed up.
But that shouldn't be a problem. Ignore what Asus said as posted by @Jake S. That isn't an issue - I can't count the hundreds of thousands of region-specific devices flashed with global ROM without issues. Matter of fact, my 12GB/512GB is on the way (CN changed to WW).
Flash the raw. 44 first like @reg66 said & you'll be good.
All the best
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If it's Tencent version, then it definitely came with CN ROM & WW was flashed and the phone sealed up.
But that shouldn't be a problem. Ignore what Asus said as posted by @Jake S. That isn't an issue - I can't count the hundreds of thousands of region-specific devices flashed with global ROM without issues. Matter of fact, my 12GB/512GB is on the way (CN changed to WW).
Flash the raw. 44 first like @reg66 said & you'll be good.
All the best
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Thank you very much bro, i will try and update the post. You are very kind
Hope it works out ?
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If it's Tencent version, then it definitely came with CN ROM & WW was flashed and the phone sealed up.
But that shouldn't be a problem. Ignore what Asus said as posted by @Jake S. That isn't an issue - I can't count the hundreds of thousands of region-specific devices flashed with global ROM without issues. Matter of fact, my 12GB/512GB is on the way (CN changed to WW).
Flash the raw. 44 first like @reg66 said & you'll be good.
All the best
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i managed to flashed it and updated my phone, thanl you for your help
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Are you trying to update to to 1910.44? If so, you need to flash the raw .44 rom, run flashall_AFT.cmd from the unzipped folder extracted to c drive and remove the original zip from that same folder... You need to do this in fastboot mode
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i managed to do it, thank you for your help and guide :laugh:
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i managed to flashed it and updated my phone, thanl you for your help
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You're welcome, enjoy:good:
I believe I have the same version of the phone as stated here. My phone info says 16.0640.1908.12 it has the August 2019 security update.
I bought the 12G/512G version on ebay that was shipped to me from New Jersey.
I have been enjoying the phone a lot for a week, but would like to fix the few problems that the phone gives me. Like not being able to get Netflix from the Playstore. Also some apps give errors that did not in my Note 9. Like youtube will not load while I'm out of wifi range in 4G data. All other apps stream data fine. And i can play CoD Mobile fine, but Youtube won't load anything. But funny enough it will work through Chrome lol.
My question, before i keep rambling, can i do the update to this new 1910.44 by just loading the update on my phone and rebooting? Will this update fix some of the problems i have been having? Or do i need to do a flash? Will this wipe all my data???
Or is it worth doing the other tutorial that you edit files in the code of the phone to change the fingerprint and stuff.
Ive never done anything like that to a phone, so i am hesitant to change anything. I would prefer the easiest solution of just downloading an update and letting the phone load it on its own.
Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I believe I have the same version of the phone as stated here. My phone info says 16.0640.1908.12 it has the August 2019 security update.
I bought the 12G/512G version on ebay that was shipped to me from New Jersey.
I have been enjoying the phone a lot for a week, but would like to fix the few problems that the phone gives me. Like not being able to get Netflix from the Playstore. Also some apps give errors that did not in my Note 9. Like youtube will not load while I'm out of wifi range in 4G data. All other apps stream data fine. And i can play CoD Mobile fine, but Youtube won't load anything. But funny enough it will work through Chrome lol.
My question, before i keep rambling, can i do the update to this new 1910.44 by just loading the update on my phone and rebooting? Will this update fix some of the problems i have been having? Or do i need to do a flash? Will this wipe all my data???
Or is it worth doing the other tutorial that you edit files in the code of the phone to change the fingerprint and stuff.
Ive never done anything like that to a phone, so i am hesitant to change anything. I would prefer the easiest solution of just downloading an update and letting the phone load it on its own.
Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
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TBH, there isn't an "easiest solution" for you unless the problem with your phone isn't a big one.
Starting off with the YouTube, can you check mobile data and confirm the app has access to it not only Wi-Fi? Alternatively, download YouTube Vanced and see if it works fine. I strongly believe there's something wrong with your YouTube app settings nothing to do with the phone itself.
Now to the main issue:
We cannot say if you can or cannot because we have no idea what you have in your hands.
You have to check out your version and also fingerprint if they are both WW then you can go ahead and download the file to the root of your phone and follow the instructions (restart), if fortunately it works, then we good else, you'll have to flash raw then do the steps.
NOTE: To check your current fingerprint, download and install device HW info from the playstore. Under 'system' you'll find the current rom (CN or WW), the product id and fingerprint versions. When you have that confirmed, we'll know where to go from there.
Yes I believe you'll be a bit sceptical due to fears but if you do have a PC that's all you need. Take a deep breath and dive in the deep end
That's how I reluctantly (more like scared) began rooting and flashing of ROMs now I do a bit of modding myself.
Please check serial number your phone and serial number in the box. The serial number may not match.
I will definitely take in to consideration the suggestions.
I checked the youtube app and nothing seemed wrong in the settings, and like i mentioned, all other apps like Pandora, IG, Waze, and Chrome are working fine on 4G.
But there are other issues like some notifications not being pushed even though i have notifications turned on for all apps. Even my text message notifications aren't coming through, even though my phone vibrates, and my Garmin watch tells me i got a text, my phone won't show i have a notification, i have to go in the app. Same happens on WhatsApp.
But i digress... The good thing is that the seller on eBay has returns for 30 days. So selling, in what i can only describe as "defective software" phone, should definitely qualify for a return. I will then search for a proper Global unlocked version of the phone.
I think one sure way to tell out of the box should be that the back of the phone should say "Republic of Gamers" instead of Tencent Games right?
I really wanted to try to fix all the issues on my own through the phone, but i do not have the courage to mess with the phone codes. And also i see everyone describing the methods on PC/Windows. I only have Mac computers at home and at work.
Unless anyone knows someone in the Los Angeles area that can do it??? hahaha. I would be willing to pay for the service of course.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
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I will definitely take in to consideration the suggestions.
I checked the youtube app and nothing seemed wrong in the settings, and like i mentioned, all other apps like Pandora, IG, Waze, and Chrome are working fine on 4G.
But there are other issues like some notifications not being pushed even though i have notifications turned on for all apps. Even my text message notifications aren't coming through, even though my phone vibrates, and my Garmin watch tells me i got a text, my phone won't show i have a notification, i have to go in the app. Same happens on WhatsApp.
But i digress... The good thing is that the seller on eBay has returns for 30 days. So selling, in what i can only describe as "defective software" phone, should definitely qualify for a return. I will then search for a proper Global unlocked version of the phone.
I think one sure way to tell out of the box should be that the back of the phone should say "Republic of Gamers" instead of Tencent Games right?
I really wanted to try to fix all the issues on my own through the phone, but i do not have the courage to mess with the phone codes. And also i see everyone describing the methods on PC/Windows. I only have Mac computers at home and at work.
Unless anyone knows someone in the Los Angeles area that can do it??? hahaha. I would be willing to pay for the service of course.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
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It's good that you have a 30 - day return window.
You should know that even the Tencent version has 12GB/512GB variant.
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It's good that you have a 30 - day return window.
You should know that even the Tencent version has 12GB/512GB variant.
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Yes i just realized that now that i started reading in this forum. At first i thought that the Tencent version was only the 8gb/128gb, and all the bigger ones were global. Now i see that mine is a larger Tencent variant like you say.
So as long as the back says Republic of Gamers, thats a good start right? As long as i don't get another that is marked Tencent on the back?
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Yes i just realized that now that i started reading in this forum. At first i thought that the Tencent version was only the 8gb/128gb, and all the bigger ones were global. Now i see that mine is a larger Tencent variant like you say.
So as long as the back says Republic of Gamers, thats a good start right? As long as i don't get another that is marked Tencent on the back?
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Well, for your situation (wanting a full global ROM (WW) with global fingerprint (WW) OOB), getting the global version ie Republic of Gamers variant is a good start.
But for lots of us who are conversant with flashing, getting the Tencent variant is as good as the other one.
Oh, and after a bit of research, I believe the issue with your phone is even though the ROM has been changed to WW, the fingerprint is still CN.
Changing the fingerprint to WW will solve the YouTube problem and also update.
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If it's Tencent version, then it definitely came with CN ROM & WW was flashed and the phone sealed up.
But that shouldn't be a problem. Ignore what Asus said as posted by @Jake S. That isn't an issue - I can't count the hundreds of thousands of region-specific devices flashed with global ROM without issues. Matter of fact, my 12GB/512GB is on the way (CN changed to WW).
Flash the raw. 44 first like @reg66 said & you'll be good.
All the best
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Dude are you stupid or what? You should not ignore what Asus states. Buying a unofficial device with ww ROM off tencent won't be valid for warranty and Asus clearly stated that. Since device has been opened and reflashed with ww ROM and device is only in valid warranty when it has official rom and not have been reflashed over to another rom that the device shouldn't have. So please don't lie to people like that next time.
Asus will fully reject his device under warranty if he sends it in for repairs under warranty request. Since they will state clearly that his device has WW ROM and not CN ROM that it supposed to have. So then warranty is voided.
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Dude are you stupid or what? You should not ignore what Asus states. Buying a unofficial device with ww ROM off tencent won't be valid for warranty and Asus clearly stated that. Since device has been opened and reflashed with ww ROM and device is only in valid warranty when it has official rom and not have been reflashed over to another rom that the device shouldn't have. So please don't lie to people like that next time.
Asus will fully reject his device under warranty if he sends it in for repairs under warranty request. Since they will state clearly that his device has WW ROM and not CN ROM that it supposed to have. So then warranty is voided.
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Why is there the need to insult me - calling me stupid. Sometimes, I fail to understand why you kids of nowadays feel the need to fly off the handle insulting people you don't know.
Furthermore, it neither addresses the issue at hand nor solve it.
Please, learn to be civil and respectful in your future engagements. Not only does it show your maturity, ethical and moral values but it also depicts what you stand for.
Now back to the issue:
1. Every mobile company is aware that many of its devices will be sold through third-party outlets many of which are not directly connected to them. Matter of fact, hundreds of thousands of these devices per manufacturer go through these channels making a total of millions of devices.
2. I don't know about you but I've been using mobile phones for two decades. Funny thing is none of them failed so bad to need replacement except LG v10 which I bought from T-mobile in the US but did the warranty help my bootloop? No, the replacement also got bootlooped and after all the hassles and whatnot, there was no benefit to me.
3. You should understand that these sellers like on AliExpress purchase hundreds of thousands of these devices with warranty.
In that stead, they also do notify you of a year's warranty.
4. Regardless of your warranty (from company itself, retailer or third-party merchant), there are limitations to what you can demand. Eg, physical damage, moisture/water ingress etc.
5. With regard to above point, hope you know that whenever we modify the software aspect of a mobile device (unlocked bootloader, region change, rooting etc) in which we have to send in for any reason, we just undo the procedure before sending in.
On a final note, in as much as I respect your argument, I'm sorry to still stand against it. Probably for you, warranty is a deal breaker but it isn't for me cos I don't wish to exercise the option of warranty. But that notwithstanding, even these merchants you're on about sell devices with a year's warranty.
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Dude are you stupid or what? You should not ignore what Asus states. Buying a unofficial device with ww ROM off tencent won't be valid for warranty and Asus clearly stated that. Since device has been opened and reflashed with ww ROM and device is only in valid warranty when it has official rom and not have been reflashed over to another rom that the device shouldn't have. So please don't lie to people like that next time.
Asus will fully reject his device under warranty if he sends it in for repairs under warranty request. Since they will state clearly that his device has WW ROM and not CN ROM that it supposed to have. So then warranty is voided.
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Not very cool calling someone stupid dude. Anyway,, regarding warranty, assuming it's purchased from a good outlet, they are responsible for the warranty, mine, for example is with giztop for 1 year. But if the phone does go belly up, I'm probably **** out of luck as I leave the bootloader unlocked, for root. But that's a choice /risk I'm taking...