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About to go for a nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it

I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
Thanks for your help

Chad_Petree said:
I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
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Not at all true.
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
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Completely imaginary.
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.

doitright said:
The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
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I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Completely imaginary.
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http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm in agreement with @doitright. I can say nothing but good about this device. I do not have any of those issues nor know of any that do. As with any device though there are always some bad ones that an unlucky few receive. It does not make all of them bad just those. My phone is a beast. It outperforms the N5 by miles. Screen looks amazing. Icons to me look great I haven't come across a bad looking icon except that of my bank.... I guess banks hire poor developers idk. Storage is incredibly fast. Camera is fantastic. Fastest signal acquisition I've seen on any phone including GPS.
Eh. Entirely up to you what you want to do. I don't trust any reviews. I rather go with my own opinions/feelings on anything. You should too.

Chad_Petree said:
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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App icons are controlled by the dev. I've never seen a fuzzy one.

doitright said:
No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.

RW-1 said:
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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That's what I was thinking about, would it be possible for them to get rid of the encryption with an OTA , I would think that one needs to factory reset your device

Chad_Petree said:
I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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I congratulate you on finding a thread about an imaginary problem, and a "fix" for an imaginary problem.
There is a certain subset of people who will do anything, IMAGINE anything, to find a problem. Don't ask me why they are like that. Sucks to be them.
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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You can't do anything to increase the fuzzyness of an image, unless you actually stretch it larger. I.e., if it takes the same physical space on the screen, then increasing the DPI on the screen won't cause it to become more fuzzy -- it just won't increase in SHARPNESS with the display. Google has specifications regarding the dimensions of the icons, and these specifications have always included a "much larger" image than what will actually display on the screen. The icons actually get scaled down to fit. So really, don't worry about it. If you find an application with a ugly/fuzzy icon, complain to the application vendor, because they're the ones who made an ugly icon, not the platform.
I just can't stress enough, that this is a silly point to use to avoid a device.
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RW-1 said:
I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
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I *absolutely promise you* that they WILL NOT eliminate the encryption requirement. Those "android one" devices are... really really cheap. It is likely that they don't force encryption simply because they are not up to the task.
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
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I CAN confirm that it does. There is no question at all. It is part of all snapdragon SoC's since about S4.
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
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There are two sides to the use of encryption hardware with qualcomm SoC's; the first is the "blobs", and the second is the integration with Android and the Linux kernel. Specifically, qualcomm's hardware crypto requires changes both to the kernel (which is under GPL), as well as VOLD (which is under APL).
Obviously, to include the kernel part, that kernel part MUST be provided as source. There is absolutely no option here.
VOLD is the part of Android responsible for mounting and managing disks. It is under the Apache license, which means that technically speaking, it can be distributed without including source, HOWEVER, this is a Nexus from Google, which means that they really can't ship a blob in place of VOLD. It has to be possible to build VOLD from AOSP.
So here is what was going on; at the time that Nexus 6 first shipped, Qualcomm HAD NOT made the source for Kernel or Vold available on CAF. That made it *impossible* for Google to include, since they would have to provide kernel code on request, and require that AOSP VOLD actually build and work.
QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!
And, in fact, there are a number of devices for which CM actually builds and includes hwcrypto *right now*.
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
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This isn't even a half solution, because even though it may seem to improve storage performance to an acceptable level, it has to nail the CPU while doing so.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
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Technically possible, but I *promise* you, it won't happen.
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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Most definitely CAN be used. No question about it.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
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You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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Keep in mind that the test unit in the store gets abused.

DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....

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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
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Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
doitright said:
You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?

Chad_Petree said:
Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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I would guess deactivate to gain read/write speed increase now, if the update enables HW encryption then you would let it.
Oh, and that is the point - nothing is perfect, not the N6, nor the units that will come after it hehehe....

RW-1 said:
DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
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I said on *some* devices. I did not say that they were enabling it on Nexus 6.
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
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Yep, I'm totally with you on that. My last phone was a samsuck.... NEVER again. I spent WAY too many hundreds of hours on kernel and device tree maintenance to get and keep that thing working adequately on CM... then Omnirom (omni is waaaaaay nicer than CM). After a year of ownership of that thing, got the wife a Hammerhead (nexus 5), and its been just so easy to maintain. Literally all I ever did with her phone was add root, busybox, and xposed (to kill a couple of the google services wakelocks). This time around, I wanted the thing to just freaking work already!!!! Only downside is that its a bit *larger* than I would have liked.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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I don't think that you should buy from verizon, even if/when they sell it directly. It will likely be crippled and branded, at least to some extent. Buy it from tmobile or google play store, and all you need to do is throw your verizon sim card into it. I think I heard that sprint also does not molest it. Oh, it could also be purchased directly from motorola.
Just whatever you do, do NOT buy it from ATT. They DO molest and cripple it.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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To gain RW performance NOW... DUH.

I'll be getting it from VZ, because I just don't have the spare $$$ to buy direct and place it on VZ.
ATT taught us that VZ will have to toss its bloat on the oem partition just like anyone else, so ... as far as branding, I think that may rub off like ATT's, but if not I plan on putting in a case anyway.
Now we have to wait another two weeks if the newest rumor is true ...

[WARNING] Exercise Caution Flashing T-Mobile Variant

Hey everyone!
Not to cause any fear mongering, but as we get closer to unlocks coming back from OnePlus, I'd like to make sure that everyone exercises some caution.
According to what little information we have we know that the Modem is likely signed by T-Mobile.
Everyone is eager to try to get the Global ROM working on the T-Mobile version and we'll do our best! But please exercise caution. As of now we do not have any factory images, or stock images for the T-Mobile variant.
If you softbrick your phone, it may be a few days before it can be fixed!
Flashing an unsigned modem may result in your phone not being able to function properly from a network standpoint!
If you rely on your phone on a daily basis, please do not "Guinea pig flash." No one wants their new device nonoperational.
As always, do what you want to do! Just please be wary, and know that there are risks until we can properly assess the differences!

Is there a program oneplus uses to flash firmware? I've always been familiar with LG and Samsung devices, but anyway I know we can most likely flash anything that isn't signed with different RSA keys. Don't know if oneplus is similar. Submitted for my unlock bin at midnight so I should be receiving mine soon. I'll try and pull as much information as I can so we can compare.

Addiso said:
Is there a program oneplus uses to flash firmware? I've always been familiar with LG and Samsung devices, but anyway I know we can most likely flash anything that isn't signed with different RSA keys. Don't know if oneplus is similar. Submitted for my unlock bin at midnight so I should be receiving mine soon. I'll try and pull as much information as I can so we can compare.
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No, just adb as it should.

Addiso said:
Is there a program oneplus uses to flash firmware? I've always been familiar with LG and Samsung devices, but anyway I know we can most likely flash anything that isn't signed with different RSA keys. Don't know if oneplus is similar. Submitted for my unlock bin at midnight so I should be receiving mine soon. I'll try and pull as much information as I can so we can compare.
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This phone uses the standard fastboot to flash.
This is like the Nexus, Pixel and Essential phones.
Typically you cannot flash to a locked partition unless the omg file is signed correctly.
That means that you will typically get a failure message if you can't flash a particular partition.

Addiso said:
Is there a program oneplus uses to flash firmware? I've always been familiar with LG and Samsung devices, but anyway I know we can most likely flash anything that isn't signed with different RSA keys. Don't know if oneplus is similar. Submitted for my unlock bin at midnight so I should be receiving mine soon. I'll try and pull as much information as I can so we can compare.
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The only one that I'm aware of is MsmDownloadTool. However, I haven't seen much mention of it in context to the 6T. I know it was used for the OnePlus 6. But I believe it's more used to simply recover from soft bricks.

There is so much false information in the OnePlus site forums. People telling others that once they unlock they'll be able to flash the international version without a problem. I posted that they can't rush into anything and to stop spreading false info or people are going to end up with bricks.

justibasa said:
There is so much false information in the OnePlus site forums. People telling others that once they unlock they'll be able to flash the international version without a problem. I posted that they can't rush into anything and to stop spreading false info or people are going to end up with bricks.
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Very much so. I mean maybe things will work just fine.... But it is not wise to ever just jump into something. Like mentioned, we don't even have factory or stock images for the T-Mobile variant. Something goes wrong and you don't know what you're doing and you're dealing with a brick until development catches up. I know everyone is eager, but people need to be smart about it too.

Once I get my unlock token if things haven't already been tested I'm more than willing to volunteer my device as it's not my primary or even secondary device. Unless u know ur way around fastboot adb dd etc pls do not start randomly doin things to ur device as has been stated it could be days before we have a way for everyone to restore their devices should something go wrong.. Everyone needs to be patient as of right now logix is the only one with an unlocked tmo variant..as such plz be patient till we have more concrete info to share.
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djkinetic said:
Once I get my unlock token if things haven't already been tested I'm more than willing to volunteer my device as it's not my primary or even secondary device. Unless u know ur way around fastboot adb dd etc pls do not start randomly doin things to ur device as has been stated it could be days before we have a way for everyone to restore their devices should something go wrong.. Everyone needs to be patient as of right now logix is the only one with an unlocked tmo variant..as such plz be patient till we have more concrete info to share.
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Yeps! I should have mine Monday morning, assuming the full 7 days from OP. We'll need to prepare a stock flashable image set before we do anything. I'll be doing a lot of testing as I have a Pixel 3 XL as well to fall back on. I have a few theories thus far on how things will go, but that also assumes that the -only- difference is the modem partition.

Dameon87 said:
Yeps! I should have mine Monday morning, assuming the full 7 days from OP. We'll need to prepare a stock flashable image set before we do anything. I'll be doing a lot of testing as I have a Pixel 3 XL as well to fall back on. I have a few theories thus far on how things will go, but that also assumes that the -only- difference is the modem partition.
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I may have mine Sunday or Monday.

What about extracting the partition images from the payload.bin and flashing everything but the modem in fastboot?
Edit: if you're rooted and have twrp couldn't you potentially make a backup for if it doesn't work?

Saythis said:
What about extracting the partition images from the payload.bin and flashing everything but the modem in fastboot?
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Once again, we have no backups/stock images/factory images currently. If you were to do that and the device doesn't work, then you are stuck waiting for someone to provide a flashable solution to fix your paperweight.

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Once again, we have no backups/stock images/factory images currently. If you were to do that and the device doesn't work, then you are stuck waiting for someone to provide a flashable solution to fix your paperweight.
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So we can't do twrp backups currently?

Just wanted to mention that if you are able to flash the global modem. I have the dual sim from 1+ using both a TMobile and a Verizon sim with no issues on data, sms, mms, calls (verizon had to have them enable CDMA-less)
Perfect service on both now in Phoenix, Arizona.

Dameon87 said:
Yeps! I should have mine Monday morning, assuming the full 7 days from OP. We'll need to prepare a stock flashable image set before we do anything. I'll be doing a lot of testing as I have a Pixel 3 XL as well to fall back on. I have a few theories thus far on how things will go, but that also assumes that the -only- difference is the modem partition.
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What are you thoughts on the pixel 3 xl vs OnePlus 6t?

madskills843 said:
What are you thoughts on the pixel 3 xl vs OnePlus 6t?
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I rarely touch my Pixel 3 XL, honestly. The OnePlus 6T just feels better in the hand. The in display finger print reader is awesome and saves time of having to pick up the phone constantly, and the notch on the XL drives me through the roof. I thought I'd get used to it, but every time my eyes travel to it I get annoyed lol.
It's not a bad device, though. I just find myself always picking up the OnePlus 6T.

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I rarely touch my Pixel 3 XL, honestly. The OnePlus 6T just feels better in the hand. The in display finger print reader is awesome and saves time of having to pick up the phone constantly, and the notch on the XL drives me through the roof. I thought I'd get used to it, but every time my eyes travel to it I get annoyed lol.
It's not a bad device, though. I just find myself always picking up the OnePlus 6T.
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Yeah that's pretty much my take on that phone why I never actually got.

Hi folks, it is interesting following your developments, I wish you the best of luck! I bought the global unlocked version directly from OnePlus, and I am actually curious if I will be able to go the other way haha, Flash the T-Mobile modem onto my global device. My only reason for doing so is I am on T-Mobile but I experienced a lot of data dropouts, phone loses connection then usually reconnects after 5 or 10 seconds but one time actually required a reboot. Was wondering, if it's even possible to flash the T-Mobile modem, might this help my issue. And would I potentially be able to keep the updated ROMs from OnePlus but running with the T-Mobile modem.

No one knows currently. Until we have unlocked T-Mobile variants, the only thing we can really do is speculate.

YrrchSebor said:
Hi folks, it is interesting following your developments, I wish you the best of luck! I bought the global unlocked version directly from OnePlus, and I am actually curious if I will be able to go the other way haha, Flash the T-Mobile modem onto my global device. My only reason for doing so is I am on T-Mobile but I experienced a lot of data dropouts, phone loses connection then usually reconnects after 5 or 10 seconds but one time actually required a reboot. Was wondering, if it's even possible to flash the T-Mobile modem, might this help my issue. And would I potentially be able to keep the updated ROMs from OnePlus but running with the T-Mobile modem.
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Not sure if the APN would have anything to do with it but did you try using T-Mobiles BYOD APN settings over the autonomic one the phone sets up?

How to change AOD Clock????

This is driving me crazy. With my previous Samsong, and LG phones, I could change the AOD clock type, and size, color, etc, but with this new Pixel 4 XL, I can't figure out how to do any of that. Anybody know the secret code to make this happen???

No way to do it, yet.
Allegedly its coming, but you never know when, or if, with Google.

uicnren said:
No way to do it, yet.
Allegedly its coming, but you never new when, or if, with Google.
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Wow, thats too bad. Hopefully a custom ROM will have it. I need a way bigger digital clock. Its driving me nuts.

MicroMod777 said:
Wow, thats too bad. Hopefully a custom ROM will have it. I need a way bigger digital clock. Its driving me nuts.
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You might be waiting a little while on that on my friend. At least as far as flashing one goes
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/10/24/android-10-twrp-pixel-3-4/

Badger50 said:
You might be waiting a little while on that on my friend. At least as far as flashing one goes
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/10/24/android-10-twrp-pixel-3-4/
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Yea, I just saw that this morning too. :good:

Badger50 said:
You might be waiting a little while on that on my friend. At least as far as flashing one goes
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/10/24/android-10-twrp-pixel-3-4/
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You don't need twrp to flash a rom. You can flash with a aosp built recovery.

If there is one device that should stay stock, it's pixel. Let the other OEM's rely on custom roms to make their devices better. Personally, I am just glad to have AOD at all, another feature OP doesn't offer. Hence, why people flash custom roms on their devices, cuz their Os is trash. Recovery doesn't even matter to me. Give me root and I can flash whatever else, booted.

what happened to all the click to root apps? Would any work?

Title says is all really, pretty sure that the bootloader still needs unlocking, just I remember being able to root without unlocking the bootloader, without having TWRP /Clockwork mod in the past.
Tried a few of them with no luck, any way this can be done..
I've kind of given up on the bootloader unlock code and thus the ability to flash a rom (even though Huawei allowed this device to be treble compatible, evil bast****)
Would any exploits work?
Be good to at least get root on this crippled bloatfest excuse for an android device.

Nope. Nothing will work

The Restless Soul said:
Nope. Nothing will work
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Why?

dladz said:
Why?
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Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't do nothing.

The Restless Soul said:
Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't do nothing.
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Yep I got that pal..
But you've missed the point.
Why?
Unlocking the bootloader was not always necessary.
Certain devices yes but how to know??
Installing TWRP to a partition is impossible without removing the checking system which is inherently what a locked bootloader brings.
But I'm not talking about that, nor am I talking about installing a custom ROM..
Only root, nothing more.

dladz said:
Yep I got that pal..
But you've missed the point.
Why?
Unlocking the bootloader was not always necessary.
Certain devices yes but how to know??
Installing TWRP to a partition is impossible without removing the checking system which is inherently what a locked bootloader brings.
But I'm not talking about that, nor am I talking about installing a custom ROM..
Only root, nothing more.
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We are talking about huawei here lmao. I don't think there is any possibility to root it, unless you unlock the bootloader.
There was a trick but it got fixed, which is to replace erecovery with TWRP and root the phone.

dladz said:
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All the "click to root" apps were using certain exploits/privilege escalation vulnerabilities. With Android development those holes were patched by Google on Android level and by most OEMs on their custom versions level.

The Restless Soul said:
We are talking about huawei here lmao. I don't think there is any possibility to root it, unless you unlock the bootloader.
There was a trick but it got fixed, which is to replace erecovery with TWRP and root the phone.
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Any idea which firmware that was available on? Was it oreo? I can go back to that.

arty_a said:
All the "click to root" apps were using certain exploits/privilege escalation vulnerabilities. With Android development those holes were patched by Google on Android level and by most OEMs on their custom versions level.
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Cheers, any idea what was the last one which was exploitable?
I can roll back to 8.1 on hisuite.
I don't see much of a difference between oreo and pie. From what I remember anyway.

dladz said:
Any idea which firmware that was available on? Was it oreo? I can go back to that.
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Emui 5.0, unfortunately.

The Restless Soul said:
Emui 5.0, unfortunately.
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5?? Hahaha awesome. Lol

The Restless Soul said:
Emui 5.0, unfortunately.
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That's from a time when Huawei were like " hi XDA, could you help us please, we'll be your best friend"
XDA should have stuck a nice big middle finger up to them...
I hate Huawei so much.

dladz said:
That's from a time when Huawei were like " hi XDA, could you help us please, we'll be your best friend"
XDA should have stuck a nice big middle finger up to them...
I hate Huawei so much.
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If i wasn't short on cash, i could had bought an s10 plus or iphone, but oh well.

The Restless Soul said:
If i wasn't short on cash, i could had bought an s10 plus or iphone, but oh well.
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Honestly, OnePlus 7T pro, it's just a phenomenal phone, all the things im miss are just there and not a sniff of a company locking anything down.
It's butter smooth. I used my pro next to the 7t pro and honestly it's an incredible difference, it's like playing a game at 144hz for the first time, 60 just can't cut it ever again.
I'm going to let this can run down and get the 8, I usually upgrade 2-3 times a year but thought I'd give it a miss this year.. kind of glad I did but it's paining me now as my bootloader is screwed and there's only so much I can do without root.
I'd love to remove the swap memory (page file /zram) but I don't think it's possible.
Swap torpedo did this and the speed increase is amazing.
PS: I wouldn't bother with the S10 it's not as good as the oneplus devices tbh. S11 might compete but it's still Samsung so nah not for me.

dladz said:
Honestly, OnePlus 7T pro, it's just a phenomenal phone, all the things im miss are just there and not a sniff of a company locking anything down.
It's butter smooth. I used my pro next to the 7t pro and honestly it's an incredible difference, it's like playing a game at 144hz for the first time, 60 just can't cut it ever again.
I'm going to let this can run down and get the 8, I usually upgrade 2-3 times a year but thought I'd give it a miss this year.. kind of glad I did but it's paining me now as my bootloader is screwed and there's only so much I can do without root.
I'd love to remove the swap memory (page file /zram) but I don't think it's possible.
Swap torpedo did this and the speed increase is amazing.
PS: I wouldn't bother with the S10 it's not as good as the oneplus devices tbh. S11 might compete but it's still Samsung so nah not for me.
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If oneplus could had provided water resistance to their phones since now they have flagship prices...
That is a bit important to me. But let's see if Huawei redeems themselves.

dladz said:
Cheers, any idea what was the last one which was exploitable?
I can roll back to 8.1 on hisuite.
I don't see much of a difference between oreo and pie. From what I remember anyway.
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Can't really help you with that, mate, sorry...
Stopped playing around with root/android about 2 years ago. In fact, the last time I rooted a phone was on android 7... I like my banking apps running on my phone and really don't think rooting the phone has any advantages, but does add certain security concerns.

The Restless Soul said:
If oneplus could had provided water resistance to their phones since now they have flagship prices...
That is a bit important to me. But let's see if Huawei redeems themselves.
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They have got water resistance, they just don't put a rating on it. But I assure you that is there 100% check out the dip tests that have been done 100% of times

arty_a said:
Can't really help you with that, mate, sorry...
Stopped playing around with root/android about 2 years ago. In fact, the last time I rooted a phone was on android 7... I like my banking apps running on my phone and really don't think rooting the phone has any advantages, but does add certain security concerns.
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I use my banking apps with root.
Things I need.
Root access to files for tweaks.
Page file removal
Bloat removal
Ad removal ( I can't tell you how much I don't like adverts)
Mods that Devs miss (CRT animation, Audio Boost etc)
Custom ROMs: more efficient, faster, feature rich
Latest OS
Early releases
If I didn't mod my phone using root id be bored in weeks (which I am) or I'd buy an IPhone.
First works for me on root, I just agreed when the notification same up.
For the ones that don't, the mobile version of the web page works perfectly for me, dependent on bank of course.
The trade off just isn't worth it for me especially with emui which is abysmally tedious and something I'd love to just delete from history.

dladz said:
They have got water resistance, they just don't put a rating on it. But I assure you that is there 100% check out the dip tests that have been done 100% of times
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I mean, it is, but it is SPLASH proof. But still, i might take oneplus in consideration. Maybe oneplus 8?

The Restless Soul said:
I mean, it is, but it is SPLASH proof. But still, i might take oneplus in consideration. Maybe oneplus 8?
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Again no, check the videos pal..submersed and functional..
The nexus 6 was the same.
Google it. Don't take my word for it.
I'm aiming for the 8

Question PLEASE HELP ME!! MY ONEPLUS 10 PRO IS NOW A BRICK

i tried to change the CN rom to global, but in the process the cell phone got bricked, it doesn't turn on, I'm desperate, I only have 2 days with it

Does the device show up using Fastboot enhance?
We need more info to help.
What did you flash?
What exactly did you do? Steps taken and things you've tried since then?
Does it boot to recovery? Can you recover using recovery?

I forget the details at the moment but they are around here. I believe getting out of that brick involves exact timing of plugging in your phone cable to your computer while holding down certain buttons and having the original Rom ready to flash. This applies to other phones too beside the OnePlus 10 pro.

droidzer1 said:
I forget the details at the moment but they are around here. I believe getting out of that brick involves exact timing of plugging in your phone cable to your computer while holding down certain buttons and having the original Rom ready to flash.
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You're referring to edl mode and MSM which we do not have, you'd have to pay for that service from one of the many people who've bought credits.
There Is no freely available MSM tool for the 10 pro or any future OnePlus./ oppo devices.
You may be able to fix it with recovery, Fastboot enhance, Fastboot commands or ultimately RMA or support from OnePlus (remote)
I can't advise because you haven't given me any information.

dladz said:
Does the device show up using Fastboot enhance?
We need more info to help.
What did you flash?
What exactly did you do? Steps taken and things you've tried since then?
Does it boot to recovery? Can you recover using recovery?
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FIRST THAT EVERYTHING I UNLOCKED THE BOOTLOADER, EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL UNTIL THE MOMENT. THEN I STARTED FASTBOOT ENHANCE, AT THAT MOMENT I WAS IN FASTBOOT MODE, AND NOW IT WON'T TURN ON, ONLY A RED SIGN APPEARS

dladz said:
You're referring to edl mode and MSM which we do not have, you'd have to pay for that service from one of the many people who've bought credits.
There Is no freely available MSM tool for the 10 pro or any future OnePlus./ oppo devices.
You may be able to fix it with recovery, Fastboot enhance, Fastboot commands or ultimately RMA or support from OnePlus (remote)
I can't advise because you haven't given me any information.
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WHERE CAN I PAY TO GET THE MSMTOOLS USER? I AM REALLY DESPERATE, IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO OFFICIAL TECHNICAL SERVICE OF THE BRAND

crhistiandavidbonilla47 said:
FIRST THAT EVERYTHING I UNLOCKED THE BOOTLOADER, EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL UNTIL THE MOMENT. THEN I STARTED FASTBOOT ENHANCE, AT THAT MOMENT I WAS IN FASTBOOT MODE, AND NOW IT WON'T TURN ON, ONLY A RED SIGN APPEARS
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Tbh that doesn't even look like a 10 pro.
And why are you writing in all caps?
Very weird thread this

Not sure why that doesn't look like a 10 Pro as I don't have one but if that is true and it's not a real 10 Pro then is it possible you got a clone of a 10 pro? If that is the case then that could be why flashing a real 10 Pro rom messed it up. What was the source of your purchase for this OnePlus 10 Pro? If it is a genuine OnePlus there are different options for fixing it. A fake OnePlus might actually be easier to fix if it is MTK based.
Please avoid using all CAPS as that is considered yelling - which I know you probably feel like right now but just avoid CAPS.

dladz said:
Tbh that doesn't even look like a 10 pro.
And why are you writing in all caps?
Very weird thread this
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I thought that the purpose of the forum was to help people but it seems that this is not the case. It's a oneplus 10 pro, only the cell phone I took the photo with is very bad, if you like I'll send you other photos of the device, if you want the box too, accessories and invoice so you don't judge. the capital letters are because I am a doctor and I was working (we use capital letters in the medical records for greater comfort when reading)

crhistiandavidbonilla47 said:
I thought that the purpose of the forum was to help people but it seems that this is not the case. It's a oneplus 10 pro, only the cell phone I took the photo with is very bad, if you like I'll send you other photos of the device, if you want the box too, accessories and invoice so you don't judge. the capital letters are because I am a doctor and I was working (we use capital letters in the medical records for greater comfort when reading)
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I apologize, as you precisely mention, I write with capital letters because of my work (I was working when I made the post) I apologize to anyone who offended

You may want to look into this thread about the all in one tool: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ck-twrp-factory-image-stock-recovery.3358711/

Sadly, I had to pay to install the software again, now I have my smartphone back, but the fingerprint sensor no longer works... It seems I'm not the only one this happened to.

crhistiandavidbonilla47 said:
i tried to change the CN rom to global, but in the process the cell phone got bricked, it doesn't turn on, I'm desperate, I only have 2 days with it
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Just to know, wich process you done?