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what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos?

what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos? That improves battery.

Stock One UI.

willhemmens said:
Stock One UI.
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I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings

melchiar said:
I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings
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That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.

willhemmens said:
That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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If you think about physics of things, you'll start to understand that what is advertised often isn't possible. The battery is a 15.4 Wh cell, when you consider that the 9810 SOC on it's own can draw 3 - 4W, the display can draw 2W+, just these two together could flatten the battery in under 3 hours (15.4Wh / 6W = 2.56 hours). Sure the SOC is rarely at full load and the display is rarely going to be at full brightness on a white screen but the Note has a bunch of other hardware also consuming power.
I'm sorry if you paid $900 for a Note 9, I paid less than that a couple of days after launch, it's certainly not worth that kind of money now. Saying that though, IMO the Note 9 is still the best all round package. Other than perhaps the display, it isn't really the best at anything but manages to tick more boxes than anything else for me.
The reason there are no official ROMs is because no one wants to make them and AOSP Pie is proving to be rather challenging.

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.

gruuvin said:
I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.
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Well that also crossed my mind, but I'm very aware on how I use apps and radios.
Not a power user
Power mode Optimized
Screen resolution FHD+
Auto brightness ON
No gaming
Now and then Facebook lite, Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Chrome
Very little Mobile Data (max half hour a day), default OFF
About 12 hours WiFi, default OFF
Bluetooth is standard off (max half hour a day)
NFC OFF
No high accuracy scanning BT or WiFi
AOD only on tap
Location ON

General Share your battery life

Really disappointed of the battery life. Wasn't the 888 supposed to be more battery efficient than the 865?
Light usage, not even 6h of SOT with 13% left. With indoor use (low brightness, wifi) , 120hz FHD+.
Compared to my OnePlus 8T, i can get slightly more than 7h of SOT...
What's your battery life ?
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Yes it supposed to be more battery efficient than the 865 but it isn't , at least for now. maybe they will tweak it in next few months. we will see. But you can do some tweaks also and you should get improvement. I see some people complaining about chrome using a lot of battery so I would uninstall it for the start and use some other browser , I can recommend kiwi with built in ad blocker and dark theme and is super light. But there's many other. Also today I was experimenting with dynamic wallpapers and I saw significant battery drain which was very noticeable so I just put black background. I never went to battery to follow what's going on , my device easily go through the day with normal use. I would say from 7 to 23 my battery goes from 100% to 10 - 30% depending on the use. For me I am very satisfied with the battery life.

For me only 2h max screen on ... I hâte this phone lol. My Poco F1 is better for batteur life

brolee93 said:
For me only 2h max screen on ... I hâte this phone lol. My Poco F1 is better for batteur life
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How is that possible? 2h is just crazy.

From 100% to 9% with over 7h SoT without any charging. Sorry for screenshot without graph :/

@Asnamus your screenshots are not really helpful and funny, cuz you charge your phone @zacer I don't know what you try to do but why you can't provide screenshots? I will tell you why.
With stock global rom and also with beta 12.5 the battery life on Mi11 is really bad.
Staying home, almost only wifi and things like whatsapp, firefox, etc. without gaming or camera you will get about 6h SOT with 15h standby. If you are not home and use mobile data it's the worst battery life ever. It's like a Galaxy S6.
They will never fix this because the device is already +3 months old.

Linuxkek said:
@Asnamus your screenshots are not really helpful and funny, cuz you charge your phone @zacer I don't know what you try to do but why you can't provide screenshots? I will tell you why.
With stock global rom and also with beta 12.5 the battery life on Mi11 is really bad.
Staying home, almost only wifi and things like whatsapp, firefox, etc. without gaming or camera you will get about 6h SOT with 15h standby. If you are not home and use mobile data it's the worst battery life ever. It's like a Galaxy S6.
They will never fix this because the device is already +3 months old.
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Today I will do the test and post , I am also interested what will be the result. My screen shot yesterday is a honest screen shot at that moment. It was more about how much Kiwi consump battery comparing to Crome and Themes (dynamic wallpapers)

@Linuxkek I didn't charge you can believe me or not. I just made that screenshot for my friend, sent him, and connected to charger(so the stats has been reset) . After that I saw this thread on forum and I pasted my result.

Like I sad you need to tweak a bit your device. I got 8h of SOT today with whole day abuse of the phone on maxed settings. 120hz 2k resolution and all ai turned on.

For me, not so far than 8h SOT with WQHD+, 120 Hz and AI activated all time for the first full charge.

Facebook app is causing random heating and battery drain.
Yesterday I had this issue and discovered that facebook app caused it. So I uninstalled it and I use Maki Plus for facebook. Great app. I must say that I got around 6h sot yesterday with this problem.

The word that describes my experience with this phone battery life is disappointment.
I am using it at FHD+ and 120Hz and I get 3,30-4 h of SOT. I does not matter if I use dark mode or not and I have already debloated the device.
I don´t think this is a hardware issue anyways so I hope it gets some kind of solution.

I will return it, really too bad. Miui is full of bugs, even with lot of compromises in my usage (dark mode, kiwi browser with night mode, black wallpaper...) Still get bad battery life.
Only 9h with 6h of SOT, whereas for a very similar usage, on my OnePlus 8T, i can get 24h with 8h of SOT.

According to Anandtech, they confirm that there is definitly something wrong about battery life, but they can't tell if it's hardware or software issue.
The Xiaomi Mi 11 Review: A Gorgeous Screen and Design
www.anandtech.com

Wahoux said:
According to Anandtech, they confirm that there is definitly something wrong about battery life, but they can't tell if it's hardware or software issue.
The Xiaomi Mi 11 Review: A Gorgeous Screen and Design
www.anandtech.com
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It's definitely this "other". I don't know what a construction is this, the weirdest thing is that you can't find any information about, I never saw it on any other phone, and it sucks your battery off. I don't use games, any social, no demanding graphic, and I can't imagine what could be possibly hidden inside. Besides it waste the battery it looks shady.

for me first charge , 5h45 SOT , debloated, 1h45 calls , 24 h standby. disapointed

i am not sure why but with my mi11 i get a much higher SOT as with my Op8 Pro
the main difference
my Op8 Pro i restored from an oldbackup
my Mi11 i completely installed new every app, every setting
also i searched a little MIUI 12 Battery saving guide, applied some of the things which did not bother me too much and voila, i end up with 7+h SOT a day incl some walks with GPS, listen podcasts via bluetooth
FHD and 120Hz settings
i am satisfied with that, my OP8 Pro which i used the same only got me like 4,5h on a good day

Do you think 230 mah for "other" is normal?

I was on the latest cn rom waiting for the bootloader unlocking. Battery life was great. Averaging 10-9 hours of intense use.
After flashing eu 21.3.11 rom, the state of battery has deteriorated quite alot. I need to charge it at least twice to last for a whole day.
Is there a possibility to downgrade the rom to the previous version as I have seen people complaining after updating, or should I just for a fix in the upcoming update?

qvert said:
i am not sure why but with my mi11 i get a much higher SOT as with my Op8 Pro
the main difference
my Op8 Pro i restored from an oldbackup
my Mi11 i completely installed new every app, every setting
also i searched a little MIUI 12 Battery saving guide, applied some of the things which did not bother me too much and voila, i end up with 7+h SOT a day incl some walks with GPS, listen podcasts via bluetooth
FHD and 120Hz settings
i am satisfied with that, my OP8 Pro which i used the same only got me like 4,5h on a good day
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Can you share this battery saving guide , would be interested

General Jumped the ship

Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.

You force yourself to use beta versions and then complain for bugs, lol

Do use understand what "beta" stand for?
And what do u mean lack of feature and security?
What feature exactly?
Lack of security? Ios never show that your phone now has what security update date, so people will never complain sh1t things about that like Android, LOL
I owned 1 ipad and android phone, and now I only use my ipad when my child want to see some youtube video, when my phone is charging (30 mins to full charge) and i can use Facebook or chrome when waiting, just all.

I used the beta because the stable ones would not feel secure as the security patch would always be a few months old.
Lack of features means the difference between the features in EU ROM beta (weekly) vs EU stable and not between iPhone 13 pro max vs mi 11 ultra.
Comparing Android vs iOS is a never-ending argument. Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her requirements. I traded the openness on android for optimization and security on iOS. One example of a real-world impact of optimization is the battery life; despite having a smaller battery, iPhone pro max lasts for 2 days on a single charge for me. The overnight drop in the battery percentage is barely 1-2%. Mi 11 ultra needed to be charged twice daily and the overnight drop in the battery would be between 5 and 10% depending on strength of phone signals I guess. The fast charging speed was convenient but having to connect it to the charger twice daily was not.
Almost every week, Android trojans-loaded apps are detected even on the Play Store, let alone in the sideloaded apps. In such settings, Google either needs to be able to deliver the latest security patches to all vendors independently of their collaboration or shut the hell up about security. With their current approach, only Pixel phones get timely updates. The rest of us are left at the mercy of vendors who decide when to provide us with those security patches. Samsung still does some justice for being consistent with its update policy. Xiaomi is a total loss in this regard.

hellodrsoul said:
I used the beta because the stable ones would not feel secure as the security patch would always be a few months old.
Lack of features means the difference between the features in EU ROM beta (weekly) vs EU stable and not between iPhone 13 pro max vs mi 11 ultra.
Comparing Android vs iOS is a never-ending argument. Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her requirements. I traded the openness on android for optimization and security on iOS. One example of a real-world impact of optimization is the battery life; despite having a smaller battery, iPhone pro max lasts for 2 days on a single charge for me. The overnight drop in the battery percentage is barely 1-2%. Mi 11 ultra needed to be charged twice daily and the overnight drop in the battery would be between 5 and 10% depending on strength of phone signals I guess. The fast charging speed was convenient but having to connect it to the charger twice daily was not.
Almost every week, Android trojans-loaded apps are detected even on the Play Store, let alone in the sideloaded apps. In such settings, Google either needs to be able to deliver the latest security patches to all vendors independently of their collaboration or shut the hell up about security. With their current approach, only Pixel phones get timely updates. The rest of us are left at the mercy of vendors who decide when to provide us with those security patches. Samsung still does some justice for being consistent with its update policy. Xiaomi is a total loss in this regard.
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"Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her Requirements."
You said everything in that statement, I am not trying to pull you back to Mi 11 Ultra, but some of the stuff you said earlier is not justified in my opinion:
First: Beta software is what it's called: "BETA" as in "FOR TESTING" I would not use it on a phone that is a daily driver, as I am using Xiaomi.EU Stable I haven't encountered any bugs, the OS is rock solid, and I don't feel like i'm missing out on "features", also about the lack of the latest security update: are you downloading tons of ****, from third party apps and sideloading a ton of apps? otherwise the latest update is not the most crucial thing, if you keep apps updated by google play store you should be more than fine, I never had any issues on that regard and I'm on android since 2015, finally the battery thing is totally justified, I am not heavy user so mostly a single charge a day is enough for me, but I totally get having to charge this phone for twice or more a day for heavy use, luckily it's half solved by its awesome 67w wired and wireless charging, so in the end, if you are staying with the phone long term, I would agree iphone 13 pro max should last way longer, due to it's awesome battery life, but if you are a person who likes to advance with technology, Mi 11 Ultra and in the future when Xiaomi 12 Ultra will be released is the way to go, (I personally upgrade every year), but again as you said:
"Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her Requirements."
the good thing is that we have choice, and if I would feel that I had enough with technology and would like to settle down, I would get an iphone 13 pro max (or whatever top end iphone is released by then) as my daily driver as it is a get and forget device with software support of 5+ years,
sorry for long rant, I just love talking about phones

My only reason for having the beta was to be able to have the monthly security patch. Because it was the only way to obtain the patches as soon as they became available. I did sideloaded apps. Morever, my browsing habits are not very secure in general. So for me, a security patch used to be a big deal. I donated Mi 11 ultra to a friend of mine who does not give a thing about security patches. He is happily using it on stable global version

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You force yourself to use beta versions and then complain for bugs, lol
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I hate apple but the difference between iphone 13 pro max and this phone is chalk and cheese
I don't think any SD 888 phones Are power efficient but this one is probably close to the worst of the worst
As a heavy user I have to turn down the display resolution and refresh rate and still need to charge it 2x daily
The 67w charging is nice , I don't think I could live with a device that takes 2-3 hours to charge anymore
I usually change phones yearly anyway so my next will hopefully be charging at 120w or faster
Xiaomi needs to work on the software as well instead of just churning out millions of phones a week
This phone is a worse user experience than my Huawei mate 20 pro in some areas and that just shouldn't happen at this price range

In my little opinion, Xiaomi does not have the capacity and expertise to deliver flagship experience. They are better known for cheaper mid rangers. Look at MIUI; it is the same experience from under a 200 phone to the ones above 1000. Even ads are present in their flagships which I was unable to comprehend because they charge premium price for their flagships and the ads did not need to be on them as they did not need to generate additional revenue at least from the flagships. I know I could block ads but that is not the point. The point is Xiaomi mindset to not differentiate flagships from mid rangers from software point of view.
Before an existing flagship is optimized, Xiaomi shoot us with another flagship. This circle continues and the flagships are sort of demeaned/insulted lol.

hellodrsoul said:
In my little opinion, Xiaomi does not have the capacity and expertise to deliver flagship experience. They are better known for cheaper mid rangers. Look at MIUI; it is the same experience from under a 200 phone to the ones above 1000. Even ads are present in their flagships which I was unable to comprehend because they charge premium price for their flagships and the ads did not need to be on them as they did not need to generate additional revenue at least from the flagships. I know I could block ads but that is not the point. The point is Xiaomi mindset to not differentiate flagships from mid rangers from software point of view.
Before an existing flagship is optimized, Xiaomi shoot us with another flagship. This circle continues and the flagships are sort of demeaned/insulted lol.
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I don't get any ads, but I do agree, the software must improve the fact that optimization takes time is sad and annoying, to think that the hardware is really good but the software is limiting it... Which is a shame

hellodrsoul said:
Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.
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Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. See ya!

If you want a flagship that can compete with Apple and exceed them, Samsung.
Unfortunately Samsung runs hot and cold, so you got to grab the hot ones like the Note 10+.
The last year for both Samsung and the Adroid OS has been wretched. Samsung sunk a lot of money and effort into the Fold series and their other flagship lines suffered heavily as a result... and Samsung got chump change for this epic blunder.
Android forgot its users buy Androids because they don't like iPhones... idiots.
Both these corporations need to learn the definition of insanity; making the same mistake and expecting a different result.
iPhone is no gem and are behaving more like their CCP partners as time passes. Their invasive scan for child porn almost was fielded a few months ago. They will try to do it or something worse in due time, the writings on the wall. They were testing the waters without a second thought to your privacy or the performance hit you would suffer because of it.
iPhone charges more for memory (and memory is not expandable), accessories and service. For what? They been using the cheapest labor force they can find for years.
iPhones lack the free Galaxy Store customization found in Samsung's. You decide what your Samsung will look and act like to a very large extent. iPhones are stiff.

Apple charge fee for providing unfragmented, cleaner OS, and super optimized third party apps for each and every iPhone. A15 bionic is superfast, more efficient, and more intelligent than snapdragon 888 (Exynos does not count!). I agree iPhones are stiff and there is room for improvement in iOS if you compare it to Android. You obviously would need to forego some features and open to enjoy some other set of features when you switch the OS.

hellodrsoul said:
Apple charge fee for providing unfragmented, cleaner OS, and super optimized third party apps for each and every iPhone. A15 bionic is superfast, more efficient, and more intelligent than snapdragon 888 (Exynos does not count!). I agree iPhones are stiff and there is room for improvement in iOS if you compare it to Android. You obviously would need to forego some features and open to enjoy some other set of features when you switch the OS.
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The Android platform allows the manufacturer as well as the user to largely load the device as they see fit. A large portion of the burden of optimization falls on the user. Be it something the manufacturer overlooked or more commonly misconfigured settings and/or 3rd party apps. It's simply impossible to test all the variables with so many variants and 3rd party apps.
As the end user it becomes your task to do what it takes to debug -your- own unique platform.
I have a few rules I learned to follow with Adroids and have my own favorite flavor. I've learned over time what works best* and almost never update. I run stock Samsung's with a Package Disabler and VPN firewall.
Result is a fast, stable platform that fulfills it's mission. My oldest N10+ is running on 9, it's current load is 21 months old, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. My next upgrade will be going from a 512gb to a 1tb V30 SD card.
All my computers are dual drive including my smartphones. 512gb doesn't cut it nor does having the critical data folders on the same drive as the OS. All my crash and burns be it PC or smartphones never took out the data drive(s).
Regardless I redundantly stagger backup my data drives. In the end the only thing that is not replaceable is critical data. This multilayered approach is the method I use to physically firewall that data.
Ideally I want two 1tb SD card slots on the smartphone
*customized to my own unique requirements but not done overnight. A sometimes steep learning curve, but ultimately with less limitations.

May I ask whether security, evolving and improving privacy, latest features, improved battery life and individual app optimizations do not matter on your end? If so, the setup you just described is optimus prime!
For me, these things come first before anything so that I do not worry about grey internet habits .
Customization on iOS is indeed limited. But with iOS 15, many things have improved. Homescreen can be customized to a great extent. Such as changing icons, hiding labels etc. can be done via the shortcut app. While on the other hand, the mess created by gesture based navigation on third party launchers on Android have effectively rendered these launchers redundant. Customization on iOS are steadily increasing while on Android, they are decreasing according to my understanding.
Optimization of third party apps for iOS is the most underrated feature of iOS. I am not much into playing games. But I do play chess and angry birds. These two are way better on iOS than on Android. Especially the chess.com app is dope. WhatsApp on iOS is also better than on Android. Ironically, even chrome on iOS (webkit based) is cleaner and more power efficient than chrome on Android (Blink based).
Again, iOS fits my use case scenario better. This may not apply to others. I get this

Security has never been an issue since I been running on Android 9. I has one maliciously scripted jpeg that damaged some files in the download folder; I deleted jpeg and repaired or deleted the damaged files. Gone.
Had one trojan preloader that squeaked by the Samsung browser but deleted it before it was able to get it's payload, DOA. Both were almost 2 years ago. I now either back out of back websites or very rarely if really bad close the browser and clear the cache. The Brave browser is pretty much bullet proof. Karma Firewall lets me know if anything is running in the background as well.
The scoped storage in Android 11 and 12 is unwanted and unwelcome. It's sucks cpu cycles and screws up trusted apps. Many apps are firewall blocked by me anyway if they don't need internet access.
It took a fair amount of time to optimize the N10+ over many months. My SOT ranges from 7-12%@hour, tap on AOD with cell serveice active runs at >.5%@hr (typical charging/discharging pattern show below). The settings on the new N10+ Android 10 variant are almost identical and it gets maybe slightly better battery life. The Android 10 variant also retains the physical navigation buttons option as show below, which I prefer. Not sure which variant I like more but the Android 9 one is easier to troubleshoot.
Stock One UI launcher, Galaxy Good Lock modules, and DIGI clock. Hidden short cut switches everywhere, 4 in the clock widget it's self. Many more on the side panels including gesture navigation via One Handed Operation plus.
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hellodrsoul said:
Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.
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I respect your choice 100%, will just tell you i have the MI 11 Ultra eu stable rom 256gb Chinese version phone and never have any isues at all.
Im on the 12.5.20 rom to BUT, because i have to use Fastboot for the new miui13 instead of TWRP which i feel secure on, i must make a change to, just to another Android brand, i had the S21 to when it was released, we never liked each other... And its a big shame because i love this mi 11 ultra.
But im not a ROM or even a beta guy i must admit, now i tried a phone with eu rom, but never again.
I still hope to be safed by a new version TWRP, before i buy the next Android, so i atleast can have some different launchers.
Good luck out there

Question Why is the battery life so much worse on custom ROMs compared to MIUI 13?

I've been trying a few custom ROMs (ArrowOS and Ricedroid) and a few custom kernels (Vantom and Sleepy) and I've noticed that the battery life is just worse. I went from an active drain of 10%/hr and an idle drain of 0.5%/hr (on debloated MIUI) to an active drain of around 12-15%/hr and an idle drain of 0.8-1.0%/hr (on Ricedroid+Sleepy, best one so far in my experience), which is an obvious increment in comparison.
I've also seen a huge number of people complaining about terrible drain on basically every custom ROM I've seen on here.
It's confusing because performance also seems to take a hit, so it's an overall worse experience, outside of the additional functionality which is often pretty great (both ArrowOS and Ricedroid look amazing).
So why is the battery life so much better on MIUI compared to these almost (?)-AOSP custom ROMs? What can I do to further increase battery life AND performance?

Linkoh said:
So why is the battery life so much better on MIUI compared to these almost (?)-AOSP custom ROMs?
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Because MIUI has too aggressive battery management which result in apps not working as it should (i.e notification not coming). One of the reasons I use custom rom.

Linkoh said:
I've been trying a few custom ROMs (ArrowOS and Ricedroid) and a few custom kernels (Vantom and Sleepy) and I've noticed that the battery life is just worse. I went from an active drain of 10%/hr and an idle drain of 0.5%/hr (on debloated MIUI) to an active drain of around 12-15%/hr and an idle drain of 0.8-1.0%/hr (on Ricedroid+Sleepy, best one so far in my experience), which is an obvious increment in comparison.
I've also seen a huge number of people complaining about terrible drain on basically every custom ROM I've seen on here.
It's confusing because performance also seems to take a hit, so it's an overall worse experience, outside of the additional functionality which is often pretty great (both ArrowOS and Ricedroid look amazing).
So why is the battery life so much better on MIUI compared to these almost (?)-AOSP custom ROMs? What can I do to further increase battery life AND performance?
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I´d suggest that you apply GMS Doze magisk module, Naptime app (from Francisco Franco, which also includes a magisk module) and also apply restrictions on battery usage of most Google stuff.
That really makes a difference.
I haven´t tried it yet on the RN10PRO (as my bootloader only unlocks this Sunday), but on Poco F2 Pro, while using Ricedroid and Immensity Kernel - these dozing/restriction tricks made active drain stay around 8%/hr (vs 12.5%/hr previously) and idle drain to go down to 0.4%/hr (vs 1.1%/hr previously).
Good luck

Patoilo said:
I´d suggest that you apply GMS Doze magisk module, Naptime app (from Francisco Franco, which also includes a magisk module) and also apply restrictions on battery usage of most Google stuff.
That really makes a difference.
I haven´t tried it yet on the RN10PRO (as my bootloader only unlocks this Sunday), but on Poco F2 Pro, while using Ricedroid and Immensity Kernel - these dozing/restriction tricks made active drain stay around 8%/hr (vs 12.5%/hr previously) and idle drain to go down to 0.4%/hr (vs 1.1%/hr previously).
Good luck
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Yo thank you for the tips, I'm definitely gonna try your strategy and I'm excited to see if it works for me too! Can I ask you what kind of apps you restricted? It would be great Also did you restrict GMS or did you just put it on "optimised"?

It hasn't been my experience with Arrow 12.1 vs MIUI 13, not a like for like comparison though to be fair.
MIUI was constantly chirping away to Xiaomi and Google, and my locked down vanilla Arrow install barely does anything while idle so the battery life is pretty impressive.
I charged it to 100% yesterday, since then I've watched some stuff on youtube, listened to an audiobook, made a few calls, messed around with wallpapers etc...and it's at 70%.
Can't really say much in terms of gaming performance since dropping the play store has cut off the games I'd usually install. General usage is at least as snappy as MIUI was, probably faster since I have 1/4 of the stuff installed.

SaulPanzer said:
It hasn't been my experience with Arrow 12.1 vs MIUI 13, not a like for like comparison though to be fair.
MIUI was constantly chirping away to Xiaomi and Google, and my locked down vanilla Arrow install barely does anything while idle so the battery life is pretty impressive.
I charged it to 100% yesterday, since then I've watched some stuff on youtube, listened to an audiobook, made a few calls, messed around with wallpapers etc...and it's at 70%.
Can't really say much in terms of gaming performance since dropping the play store has cut off the games I'd usually install. General usage is at least as snappy as MIUI was, probably faster since I have 1/4 of the stuff installed.
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Yeah, my stock MIUI was terrible both performance-wise and battery-wise, but after debloating it (by disabling basically every Xiaomi service / app) my phone was flying with amazing battery.
I'm guessing that you've flashed the vanilla / degoogled ROM, right? This sounds like a good idea. I flashed the gapps version and my experience was not nice, and just restricting Google Services' battery usage made my phone go 0.1%/hr overnight which is insane.
Though, active drain remains insanely high around 15%/hr... Can't find out why

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I'm guessing that you've flashed the vanilla / degoogled ROM, right?
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Vanilla ArrowOS 12.1, no gapps or anything like that and I'm not rooted if makes a difference.
I use F-droid for most things and a few I grabbed from the official GIT repos like brave-browser, yubikey stuff and session, netguard is blocking everything I don't actively use.
Also I'm using Nova launcher instead of Quickstep, I haven't tested to see if that makes a change to the battery life.
If you're after all the fancy extras then that won't work for you, it's slick and I like the feel of the phone but definitely feels minimal.

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Same. My phone charges in ~20 minutes and lasts several days without charging. With more screentime, thats obviously reduced but ive never had a phone/rom combo that lasts as long as this one. I hate MIUI for their agressive battery management which brings more bugs and less batterylife. And its so good that even though i want to upgrade to the next android version, im going to stay right where i am because it seems like no rom can keep up with this.

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Vanilla ArrowOS 12.1, no gapps or anything like that and I'm not rooted if makes a difference.
I use F-droid for most things and a few I grabbed from the official GIT repos like brave-browser, yubikey stuff and session, netguard is blocking everything I don't actively use.
Also I'm using Nova launcher instead of Quickstep, I haven't tested to see if that makes a change to the battery life.
If you're after all the fancy extras then that won't work for you, it's slick and I like the feel of the phone but definitely feels minimal.
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Hmm that's interesting. I don't rely on much Google stuff (except GPay and Maps which are very hard to replace), so this actually sounds appealing to me. Can I ask you to send a screenshot of Accubattery / BatteryGuru if possible? I have had horrible luck with battery life so far it seems

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Hmm that's interesting. I don't rely on much Google stuff (except GPay and Maps which are very hard to replace), so this actually sounds appealing to me. Can I ask you to send a screenshot of Accubattery / BatteryGuru if possible? I have had horrible luck with battery life so far it seems
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I think GPay needs extra stuff that I don't have but I don't use it so not 100% on that and I use Organicmaps but not like a car GPS so no idea if it's capable of that.
I installed Accubattery yesterday with the phone at ~97%, pretty light usage and fell asleep with a video streaming on the phone since then.
For fair disclosure I'm not entirely sure how accurate the battery measurements are since my phone says there's still nearly 1.5h of charge time left when it hits full charge.
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I think GPay needs extra stuff that I don't have but I don't use it so not 100% on that and I use Organicmaps but not like a car GPS so no idea if it's capable of that.
I installed Accubattery yesterday with the phone at ~97%, pretty light usage and fell asleep with a video streaming on the phone since then.
For fair disclosure I'm not entirely sure how accurate the battery measurements are since my phone says there's still nearly 1.5h of charge time left when it hits full charge.
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Wow, actually insane. Thank you for sharing the screenshots! Can I ask you if you noticed any kind of hiccups or lags? Do you run it on 120hz?

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Wow, actually insane. Thank you for sharing the screenshots! Can I ask you if you noticed any kind of hiccups or lags? Do you run it on 120hz?
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No problem, I run it on 60hz since I don't game or do any video stuff.
There are options for 60Hz-60Hz/60Hz-120Hz/120Hz-120Hz, I can select them but with my usage I don't notice any visible difference and leave it on 60.
No lag that I can notice apart from data lag (loading a site like twitch takes a second or 2 for all the thumbnails to load, the browser itself opens instantly).
I've had 1 hiccup in the month or so I've used the ROM, for some reason the fingerprint unlock didn't work 1 time and I had to restart the phone.
I just restarted to test it and from hitting restart it only takes 17 seconds to reboot back to the lock screen so no major hassle.
The other problems are ones I make for myself by using a non Gapps vanilla ROM, so limited customization, can't install a fancy camera app, certain apps won't install without rooting etc...(non issues for me personally).

Question How much better the Pixel 7's battery life than the S22's?

Hi guys!
The problem
I currently have a base model Galaxy S22 Exynos and everything has been fine except battery life. I'm thinking of getting a Pixel 7 and I need your help to decide if it would be worth it. I have already disabled 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
My usage
I love listening to music on spotify, bt headphones, I use a lot of discord, messenger, and instagram chat, watch a lot of tiktok and youtube videos, and browse chrome. I commute and use 4g a lot. With my current usage the S22 battery discharges really fast.
S22, the good and the bad
While I love a lot about my S22, especially the high refresh rate screen sith symmetrical bezels, the battery on this phone is just plain bad and can not get me reliably through the day without battery anxiety. I feel miserable having to micro manage the battery in order to not run out of battery by the end of the day.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant, unique body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While according to dxomark and gsmarena battery drain tests the P7 should have slightly better battery life, I have also read that it doesn't translate to significantly better battery life IRL usage. I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
So should I get rid of my S22 in favor of the Pixel 7? Do you think it would give me better battery life?
Thanks people
Edit: I bought a bluetooth headphone and listen regularly to music on spotify and mobile date when commuting to work or uni, and battery has been significantly worse. Also edited the post to be more readable.

blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Software updates do mess up the Pixel 7 but with the February patch, I have been getting good battery life. I don't know how much SOT I get from my phone since I just charged it at the time I am writing this but every time I have 100% before I go to school, I always end up with about 50-70% by the time I get home and for the late nights around midnight, I end up with 20-40% left of battery life. To me, that's good enough for my usage since I don't game on my Pixel.

This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
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Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.

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This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.
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It only seems to drain the battery when I'm actually using the app, so that's not really an issue because I'm in bed most of the times.

What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!

blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.

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What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!
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You are right and that is exactly what i was thinking. There exists a couple of magsafe wireless powerbanks that I could use and I already have magsafe rings that I can attach to any case I want.
But
1. I don't think the powerbanks would actually fit, because they would be blocked by the camera bump so they wouldn't sit flush with the back glass.
2. I don't want to play this minigame where i micro manage my phone to see where when and how I can charge it. I am also not into randomly whipping out a powerbank that's twice as thick as my phone because it can't hold a charge for more than a few hours.
Hence, I've decided to switch.

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Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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Unfortunately, the first 2 are not available in my country and the Oneplus 11 is above my budget.
I am aware that Google's version of android has it's limitation, however, I love the clean, bloat-free UI and the phone looks so insanely cool! It also has relatively thin bezels, good high refresh rate screen. It ticks most of my criterias for a phone just like my S22, the only thing that keep's me from switching is not knowing how much better the battery life would be.
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?

blackrubi said:
I love the clean, bloat-free UI
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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
blackrubi said:
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?
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I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.

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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
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The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
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I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.
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I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month. According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.

blackrubi said:
The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
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I'm not talking about launcher features at all. There are several features built-in at the software level on OEM builds such as Samsung's OneUI, OnePlus' Oxygen OS, iQOO's FunTouch OS, etc. that do not have a solution using 3rd party apps. So Pixel users will have to live without these features, and it is a difficult proposition for those who come from other brands.
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I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month.
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6 hours of SOT with 20 hours of standby is quite good by today's standards. I don't think Pixel will last this long. With some Chinese brands like iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus, etc., you can expect to get an extra hour or two of battery life.
blackrubi said:
According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.
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Online tests do not usually represent real life usage.

TheMystic said:
Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.

deevil_2000 said:
I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.
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The most important benefit of having a feature built into the system is the quality of output. Third party apps do not always provide the same experience. That is also because of restrictions placed on them. System apps have a higher privilege set than user apps. Take for example, Scrolling Screenshots. Or Call Recording.
This is why I prefer OEM builds over Stock Android because 3rd party apps fail to provide quality output, both due to Android restrictions as well as due to lack of proper optimizations.
I have seen several reviews of Pixels and don't remember seeing anything that makes them stand out in terms of performance or battery life. So the whole purpose of having a 'clean' software is defeated.
That said, I have written a post where I have compared the software features of various OEM builds. Since I don't own a device from each brand, I need confirmation from real users of respective devices.
There are about 25 features that I really look forward to on my smartphones, and the lack of availability of some of those are indeed deal breakers for me. For example, lack of gesture support for system navigation when using 3rd party launchers on Xiaomi devices alone is a reason why I wouldn't buy them!
As far as Pixels are concerned, there is only one feature that they have that no other phones have: offline transcription with voice recordings. But Pixels lack many features that other OEM builds offer, enough to rule them out in the purchase decision.
Can you tell me which of the features listed there are available on Pixel phones? This will give clarity on what to expect from Pixel devices.
Here is the link:
Comparing Android 13 features of different OEMs | XDA Forums (xda-developers.com)

how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long

w9909989 said:
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Sorry bro, but this was painful to read. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

w9909989 said:
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Wait.... this is considered good SOT? Have I been living under a rock? I will **** my pants if watching videos and social media / browsing infinity reddit is considered heavy usage to the point that it is surprising that I got 6.5h SOT.
Most of it was on Wi-Fi, around 30% was on mobile data (4G). I have 5G disabled as my mobile carrier doesn't support it. I have also disabled a bunch of apps through adb, disabled execution of cached apps, most of my apps are in deep sleep and I don't have any applications installed that I don't use. I also use bixby routines to minimize overnight drain. I also have adaptive battery enabled. I also have bixby routines to turn on power saving mode when using power hungry apps. I'm on One UI 5.0 and will not upgrade to 5.1 because of insanely buggy software. That's it

The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.

blackrubi said:
The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.
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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.

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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.
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It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.

blackrubi said:
It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.
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Pixel phones are only about their cameras. There is nothing special about stock Android or their so called 'clean' software (I have already explained why that is so). And you get great cameras (if not absolute best) with other brands too.
Have you considered doing a factory reset of your S22? That might help. Also try and stick with installing only the essential apps that you use regularly.
I might also add something here. I can relate to how you feel. You have kind of tuned your mind to get the Pixel 7 now. If you can resist this urge for a month or two, the desire to buy it will fade away.
The reason I suggest you don't make the switch is primarily because I think it won't serve the purpose you're looking for. Or at the very least, won't justify losing money on the S22 and spending on getting the Pixel 7, unless there is a really good deal on offer.