Thanks to the sysop's, admins and users - Introductions

Hi, my first computer was a Tandy 1000 TL. First online experience was electra city, a BBS in the 805 First "big" warez board was "Share Warez" in the 818. I have come here for over a decade mostly as an unregistered user. Thank you to each and every contributor. Without the sharing of knowledge, we are in serious trouble.

TheHerbalist said:
Hi, my first computer was a Tandy 1000 TL. First online experience was electra city, a BBS in the 805 First "big" warez board was "Share Warez" in the 818. I have come here for over a decade mostly as an unregistered user. Thank you to each and every contributor. Without the sharing of knowledge, we are in serious trouble.
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Welcome to XDA, officially

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A Moderator

Have some questions .. would be glad if some one answers them
How do you become one ?
Is any one allowed to become a mod or only the site owners / major contributors allowed?
Are there seperate mod's for each section of an PDA section?
Thanks
Well, to be honest there really isn't a set of requirements but there are some things common amoungst your Moderators.
First, we are all recgonized as active and contributing members fo the forum, For some of us our contributions were/are as Rom Chefs, software developers etc and for others it was being helpful to other forum users and working actively with the existing Moderators by actively reporting violations of the site TOS and helping keep us aware of developing situations which required out attention.
Second, we are generally a group of very knowledgable PPC/SP Phone users. Most of us have years of experience even going back to the days when a cable was required to connect your PPC to your Cell phone and GPRS was slower than a modem from the 70's (some of us even remember those modems from the 70's - Acoustic Coupler anyone!). Now there are some who don't do back that far but certianly have caught up to (and even surpassed a few of us) in the "knowledgable" category.
Third, we all have come to love XDA-Developers and want to help it continue to develop (ha ha) in a positive manner.
Finally, we all volunteered for the gig and have accepted the highly exaggerated paychecks that XDA-Devs provides. Okay so the paycheck isn't real but how can you put a price on knowing that you are helping maintain something that inspires and guides so many users on a daily basis.
ROFL.... you guys wish the admin was that hot :lol:
Lol ok thanx guys ... guess i dont stand a chance then ..
BTW
how about a Sub Forum Mod... On ATOM forum
ALL HAIL THE ADMINISTRATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry megatron
mikechannon said:
Himcliff, that Admin pic is more accurate than your Avatar is of you I know we are advanced in the forums here but let me see, you must be at least 3 years old in that cute 'lil pic.
Got to go, admin's boots needing cleaning!
Mike
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nuh uh... i still look like that.
mikechannon said:
Got to go, admin's boots needing cleaning!
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what mike meant to say is that he has to go lick Flar's boots... mikechannon is really a paradis_pal alias....
well....as of now i think this forum is clean enough.
the existing moderators do a very good job.
(say thanks mods!!)

Telegram is slowly killing this forum?

The name of this thread should be:
"Telegram is slowly becoming a better place than xda for free speech regarding Android development, UB and rooting"
I'm just curious, why is it so important to be on Telegram instead of here on XDA? I know Telegram is a well working system for quick, smooth and "all in one" chat/communication, but honestly, it's killing this forum. If you have a question and you put it here on this forum, your lucky if someone even answer (properly and in detail), while on Telegram it's already been discussed, tested and answered, long ago?! And the discussion on Telegram seams to be active almost 24/7 (like XDA back in the days), while this forum is stagnating more and more?
Are we meant to focus on Telegram instead of XDA from now on when it comes to brain storming regarding development and more complicated stuff?
XDA was the place for devs and tinkerers. But too many rules started to make it impossible to enjoy a place that once was as open as a hooker at a trucker stop. Just like anything else, it always comes to a stale point and time to move on. When you start off as a great forum and then start to police everything, especially devs and one's freedom of speech, you're no longer going to be the go to place. Telegram is where it's at.
Thanks!
dam90042 said:
XDA was they place for devs and tinkerers. But too many rules started to make it impossible to enjoy a place that once was as open as a hooker at a trucker stop. Just like anything else, it always comes to a stale point and time to move on. When you start off as a great forum and then start to police everything, especially devs and one's freedom of speech, you're no longer going to be the go to place. Telegram is where it's at.
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That explains it!
Wasn't aware it had gone that far?!
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I'm just curious, why is it so important to be on Telegram instead of here on XDA? I know Telegram is a well working system for quick, smooth and "all in one" chat/communication, but honestly, it's killing this forum. If you have a question and you put it here on this forum, your lucky if someone even answer (properly and in detail), while on Telegram it's already been discussed, tested and answered, long ago?! And the discussion on Telegram seams to be active almost 24/7 (like XDA back in the days), while this forum is stagnating more and more?
Are we meant to focus on Telegram instead of XDA from now on when it comes to brain storming regarding development and more complicated stuff?
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I've searched on telegram and there is just one group with 38 members. It seems inactive...
Inerent said:
I've searched on telegram and there is just one group with 38 members. It seems inactive...
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The "lg v40" group has around 240 members and is active pretty much all the time...
looks like all bootloader unlock and root threads were closed here.
I can't be the only one that can't find it .. I type in LG v40 and nothing that big pops up.
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I can't be the only one that can't find it .. I type in LG v40 and nothing that big pops up.
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I've tried to find a way to share a link to the group, but it doesn't work for some reason?
Anyways, Rose (@MissRose_bot) is the admin of the group LG V40. Maybe you guys can find her, and then, go from there
nyttliv7 said:
I'm just curious, why is it so important to be on Telegram instead of here on XDA? I know Telegram is a well working system for quick, smooth and "all in one" chat/communication, but honestly, it's killing this forum. If you have a question and you put it here on this forum, your lucky if someone even answer (properly and in detail), while on Telegram it's already been discussed, tested and answered, long ago?! And the discussion on Telegram seams to be active almost 24/7 (like XDA back in the days), while this forum is stagnating more and more?
Are we meant to focus on Telegram instead of XDA from now on when it comes to brain storming regarding development and more complicated stuff?
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Well what we are trying to do is use Telegram for testing purposes and then put the final guide on XDA....cause this is where we go for the guides and such....but the rules have already removed our bootloader unlock threads....
A shame really. I don't think that telegram is a decent replacement. Too much chatter and noise. But agree with the sentiments around too many rules around here and combine that with the small number of phones that are bootloader unlockable and together they are doing a good job of killing off interest. Especially when someone kills any start to conversations around unlocking the bootloader.
I used to come here 2 to 3 times a day. Now....i think my last resort will be going to pixel. Too bad google doesn't know how to make a flagship.
And Htc
Alibaba0101 said:
A shame really. I don't think that telegram is a decent replacement. Too much chatter and noise. But agree with the sentiments around too many rules around here and combine that with the small number of phones that are bootloader unlockable and together they are doing a good job of killing off interest. Especially when someone kills any start to conversations around unlocking the bootloader.
I used to come here 2 to 3 times a day. Now....i think my last resort will be going to pixel. Too bad google doesn't know how to make a flagship.
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Good old days, back in 2010, had my first touch screen smartphone, HTC Desire (Bravo)... I loved it, and how easy it was to unlock the bootloader on their website! And rooting was natural. Xda was really a great place and everybody lived happily ever after, hehe
To bad HTC doesn't make any flagship anymore ;(
Inerent said:
I've searched on telegram and there is just one group with 38 members. It seems inactive...
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Here's the LG V40 Telegram link: MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
nyttliv7 said:
Here's the LG V40 Telegram link: MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
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Per the forum rules, using XDA to promote social media is not allowed:
Self-promotion is forbidden, this includes blogs, social media and video channels etc. Random links will be removed.
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Refer to the sticky in this section titled "Telegram and Whatsapp Channels - Going Forward" for more information.
I actually find it similar to what the OP thinks. The forums are dying a slow death on some devices (some are still having threads created like breeding rabbits - lol)
The problem is twofold. On one hand you have the "instant-ness" of live messaging. Ask a q and get answers almost right away instead of waiting for days or months for someone to reply and get an answer if you're lucky. In the connected age now, everyone wants everything instantly. Waiting is for old school.
Then you have the forum itself which increasingly becoming less user friendly as you guys said. Enforcement is good but if you go overboard, people are gonna leave and they ain't comin back. It's fine to move with the times but sometimes it's not always gonna be good. I mean, look at the marketplace. It's effectively dead space since it'll throw you out to swappa. There should really be a place where people who offer paid services like unlocking or repairs to post their stuff in there like there used to be and posts in other forums for such services could be moved there when needed. Not just shutting them down. One might argue that it's illegal and all that but you could just then outline how the posts should be phrased to avoid such issues.
I dunno. I love this place and wish folks would come back.. but having the vibe of a state-pen visit when you log in ain't fun either.
sidenote : I see more and more mods having custom sigs and banners announcing their "Status". Is that a thing right now? The profile box description ain't enough anymore?
"self promotion is not allowed"???
I'm not promoting myself! I don't even have anything to promote!?
Weired!
My wishful thinking and nostalgia is definitely the reason for my disappointment here on XDA.
Do you guys remember:
"Two years ago, Chinese company CCMT bought SuperSU from Chainfire, a move which did produce a lot of chatter, and in some cases negative emotions, in the Android enthusiast community."
I believe this was a clear sign of what was going on in the Android world/community.
And don't forget the slow death of Android/Linux as open source. I am of the opinion that Google has always abused the rules, making open source a commercial "control" tool for their own benefits.
And then we have all those governments need for control. No one can deny that smartphones have become the most effective tracking tool there is. No need for implant rfid chips as long as we use our smartphones like we do.
And also the desperate race to get our personal information, opinions and interests/habits for both political and commercial reasons.
All this and the fact that today, more and more people own a flagship, so no big reason for rooting, except for privacy...
I'm starting to wonder who's really in control on xda those days, and who's reading/checking what we're up to in here?
Time for me to wake up and "climb a higher mountain"
OnePlus is in control of XDA now. lol
nyttliv7 said:
"self promotion is not allowed"???
I'm not promoting myself! I don't even have anything to promote!?
Weired!
My wishful thinking and nostalgia is definitely the reason for my disappointment here on XDA.
Do you guys remember:
"Two years ago, Chinese company CCMT bought SuperSU from Chainfire, a move which did produce a lot of chatter, and in some cases negative emotions, in the Android enthusiast community."
I believe this was a clear sign of what was going on in the Android world/community.
And don't forget the slow death of Android/Linux as open source. I am of the opinion that Google has always abused the rules, making open source a commercial "control" tool for their own benefits.
And then we have all those governments need for control. No one can deny that smartphones have become the most effective tracking tool there is. No need for implant rfid chips as long as we use our smartphones like we do.
And also the desperate race to get our personal information, opinions and interests/habits for both political and commercial reasons.
All this and the fact that today, more and more people own a flagship, so no big reason for rooting, except for privacy...
I'm starting to wonder who's really in control on xda those days, and who's reading/checking what we're up to in here?
Time for me to wake up and "climb a higher mountain"
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I can't speak for xda, but just like supersu and a lot of great apps like esfile explorer....most of the online forums are being bought by large or shady corporations and run my legal and compliance teams. These corporations aren't interested in the community. They are interested only converting the apps to spyware, advertisement, and what data they can collect and monetize.
It's interesting that if I go to some well known devs and mods profiles here on xda, they have links to Telegram, but I'm not allowed to share a Telegram (LG V40) development link??
Xda moderators, you're confusing us!
Please inform us what purpose this website/forum has those days?
I know for sure that originally, this was the place to be if you wanted to unlock Bootloader and root!
Sad....
nyttliv7 said:
It's interesting that if I go to some well known devs and mods profiles here on xda, they have links to Telegram, but I'm not allowed to share a Telegram (LG V40) development link??
Xda moderators, you're confusing us!
Please inform us what purpose this website/forum has those days?
I know for sure that originally, this was the place to be if you wanted to unlock Bootloader and root!
Sad....
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They would allow the threads if and only if the info was public...which Vlad already shared but you need to have an Octopus box thing which costs $500 US, Vlad is helping and only asking for money if it takes along time but he's doing the communication from Telegram...so that kinda makes them salty...but I will never understand why they allowed the HTC people to Monetize S-Off...and post it all over XDA....

How can we make the XDA forums better?

I figured since we turned this forum into a Questions forum with up and down voting for each answer, I'd ask:
How can we make the XDA forums better?​
No answer is too outlandish...be creative. We're listening!
Maybe you think we have too many ads, or maybe you think search totally sucks. Perhaps you want more theme options, or you want more ways to learn development. Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
Jaxidian said:
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
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"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
juned.khatri31 said:
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
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i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
DSA said:
i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
Please bring back the XDA Labs app. I found the app perfect! I cant get used too the newer app even after using it for quite some time now. It feels... i dont know. Right now i am using firefox for accessing xda.
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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
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Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
DSA said:
Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It's the active variant of the S4 made exclusively for AT&T. Hence little support.
blackhawk said:
"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
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Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
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Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
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You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
blackhawk said:
You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
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I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
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Guys, please stay on topic
I would like, to have some sections, where people can learn modding, learn how to do proggraming for type of stuff we do here on xda.
usualy, someone post some amaizing tool, but it would be even more amaizing if there is separate section for developers who want to learn, deep inside of android system, how to mod it, code some useful software for it, etc
in these times, where all manufacturers are locking bootloaders, or completely ditching bootloader, so it can be unclocked, it encourages lack of experimentation android was before, because people have locked phones and xda forums isn't popular as it once was, there are no more amaizing things, and even if you want to try to make amaizing thing, you can't because there are no resources to learn android. manufacturers, make everything more locked, android is becoming iOS for some reason.
so basically, i would like to have section, like on stackoverflow, but to be focused on android modding, and questions people ask, how they can learn it. (as stackexchange android enthusiasts suck, and it's just that, enthusiasts, but not developers, programmers who want to learn and ask qusetions)
that would make this community useful, for developers.
usual questions, like Q&A is okay, but just want separate section, where real professional people look. (just look, at Q&A, full of regular people who have no clue, and not even read guide, all those questions can be solved with existing guides on XDA, and even if can't, then phone is hard bricked, or question is just trash, and that me, and i believe many others, programmers, professionals, drive back from it, we need quality questions where programmers can look for to help fellow programmer.
and, with this, upwote and downwote, it would be a good idea, as, in those special programming threads, programmers would be able to see most useful answer.
with all people bashing here, this became some low quality, chat forum, i wish we can make it more quality focused, but still noob frinendly, so it have sections for noobs (existing Q&A), and expert section
And what @Jaxidian complained, this would be solution, as sometimes experienced people don't have patience for noob question (they just say "why you don't search first before posting"), those people who answer that way, just wish they could answer and help someone more experienced struggling and not answer same questions from noobs that don't research before posting. (if someone is noob, he becomes even bigger noob if he ask for something that has been asked milion times on same platform)
my 50 cents
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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Or limit the forums new members can post to just Q and A subforums.
My observation is that in the Q&A forum regularly - almost daily - the same problem (e.g. data recovery for bricked device, rooting device, bypass FRP lock) is presented by different users and asked for a solution proposal: in my eyes a nonsense.
My recommendation: The Q&A forum should have sub-forums for this.
Also, I do not understand why 2 Q&A forums exist, namely Q&A and Q&A->H&T. Users do not distinguish between them.
Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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I think that's an interesting idea, but nothing will make a new user more upset than a waiting period. In 2021, people expect instant access and quick gratification. If we were the only phones community, I would agree with you, but if I was a newb and registered then had a waiting period, I'd say "screw it, my problem is important. i'm going to reddit/AndroidCentral/somewhere else"
Sarticle said:
Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
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That's not going to happen unless a team of developers steps forth to fully take over its development.

How can we make the XDA forums better?

I figured since we turned this forum into a Questions forum with up and down voting for each answer, I'd ask:
How can we make the XDA forums better?​
No answer is too outlandish...be creative. We're listening!
Maybe you think we have too many ads, or maybe you think search totally sucks. Perhaps you want more theme options, or you want more ways to learn development. Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
Jaxidian said:
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
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Click to collapse
"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
juned.khatri31 said:
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
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i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
DSA said:
i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
Please bring back the XDA Labs app. I found the app perfect! I cant get used too the newer app even after using it for quite some time now. It feels... i dont know. Right now i am using firefox for accessing xda.
blackhawk said:
Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
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Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
DSA said:
Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It's the active variant of the S4 made exclusively for AT&T. Hence little support.
blackhawk said:
"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
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Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
Jaxidian said:
Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
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You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
blackhawk said:
You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
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I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
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Guys, please stay on topic
I would like, to have some sections, where people can learn modding, learn how to do proggraming for type of stuff we do here on xda.
usualy, someone post some amaizing tool, but it would be even more amaizing if there is separate section for developers who want to learn, deep inside of android system, how to mod it, code some useful software for it, etc
in these times, where all manufacturers are locking bootloaders, or completely ditching bootloader, so it can be unclocked, it encourages lack of experimentation android was before, because people have locked phones and xda forums isn't popular as it once was, there are no more amaizing things, and even if you want to try to make amaizing thing, you can't because there are no resources to learn android. manufacturers, make everything more locked, android is becoming iOS for some reason.
so basically, i would like to have section, like on stackoverflow, but to be focused on android modding, and questions people ask, how they can learn it. (as stackexchange android enthusiasts suck, and it's just that, enthusiasts, but not developers, programmers who want to learn and ask qusetions)
that would make this community useful, for developers.
usual questions, like Q&A is okay, but just want separate section, where real professional people look. (just look, at Q&A, full of regular people who have no clue, and not even read guide, all those questions can be solved with existing guides on XDA, and even if can't, then phone is hard bricked, or question is just trash, and that me, and i believe many others, programmers, professionals, drive back from it, we need quality questions where programmers can look for to help fellow programmer.
and, with this, upwote and downwote, it would be a good idea, as, in those special programming threads, programmers would be able to see most useful answer.
with all people bashing here, this became some low quality, chat forum, i wish we can make it more quality focused, but still noob frinendly, so it have sections for noobs (existing Q&A), and expert section
And what @Jaxidian complained, this would be solution, as sometimes experienced people don't have patience for noob question (they just say "why you don't search first before posting"), those people who answer that way, just wish they could answer and help someone more experienced struggling and not answer same questions from noobs that don't research before posting. (if someone is noob, he becomes even bigger noob if he ask for something that has been asked milion times on same platform)
my 50 cents
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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Or limit the forums new members can post to just Q and A subforums.
My observation is that in the Q&A forum regularly - almost daily - the same problem (e.g. data recovery for bricked device, rooting device, bypass FRP lock) is presented by different users and asked for a solution proposal: in my eyes a nonsense.
My recommendation: The Q&A forum should have sub-forums for this.
Also, I do not understand why 2 Q&A forums exist, namely Q&A and Q&A->H&T. Users do not distinguish between them.
Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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I think that's an interesting idea, but nothing will make a new user more upset than a waiting period. In 2021, people expect instant access and quick gratification. If we were the only phones community, I would agree with you, but if I was a newb and registered then had a waiting period, I'd say "screw it, my problem is important. i'm going to reddit/AndroidCentral/somewhere else"
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Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
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That's not going to happen unless a team of developers steps forth to fully take over its development.

Hello from darkest Yorkshire !

Just a line to thank you for accepting me into the group. I'm a retired VoIP engineer, prior to that a Marine Radio Officer in the Merchant Navy although I started off as a Morse Code basher in the Royal Navy at 15...so quite a long time in what they now call IT. I like to keep my mind active so pulling out lots of computer stuff I've collected over the years and getting them up to speed with new SSD and RAM plus the latest W11 OS (with a few hacks) As I get them fettled up they will be going on eBay or Facebook market place so I will finally put a smile on the wife's face, she hates all my 'clutter' Sad to see some of these Sony Vaio's go as I've collected what I thought were the best laptops money could buy but then Sony pulled the plug on support ho hum. I will no doubt be asking lots of stupid questions, bear in mind I'm just a morse basher with a bit of age dabbling in something that interests me!
All the best
Steven Barrett
Welcome to XDA. I was a radio technician in the United States Marine Corps for 9 years. We're glad to have you, mate.
Please take a moment to review the Forum Rules and Forum Etiquette linked in my signature.
To find the correct forum section for your device, use the Search function or click the Manufacturers link at the top of the page.
If you have any questions or need help, don't hesitate to ask!
V0latyle said:
Welcome to XDA. I was a radio technician in the United States Marine Corps for 9 years. We're glad to have you, mate.
Please take a moment to review the Forum Rules and Forum Etiquette linked in my signature.
To find the correct forum section for your device, use the Search function or click the Manufacturers link at the top of the page.
If you have any questions or need help, don't hesitate to ask!
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Thanks for the reply, I often shock sassy folk who think I’m a geek, they don’t realise we had a military life before becoming civilian drudges …. Soon learn though don’t they !!!
stevenpbarrett said:
Thanks for the reply, I often shock sassy folk who think I’m a geek, they don’t realise we had a military life before becoming civilian drudges …. Soon learn though don’t they !!!
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They sure do, and so do we...that adjustment can be a rough one! From an environment where frequent use of certain four letter expletives is part of the everyday vocabulary, to the "civilized" part of society where such things result in a trip to your not so friendly Human Resources representative.
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They sure do, and so do we...that adjustment can be a rough one! From an environment where frequent use of certain four letter expletives is part of the everyday vocabulary, to the "civilized" part of society where such things result in a trip to your not so friendly Human Resources representative.
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I was told on leaving the RN back in 1974 aged 21 not to mention I had served (1969 to 71) so I never did for many years
stevenpbarrett said:
I was told on leaving the RN back in 1974 aged 21 not to mention I had served (1969 to 71) so I never did for many years
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Odd. I wonder if that was a Cold War thing. Anyway, welcome to XDA, a lot of us (especially the moderator staff like @Oswald Boelcke and @Badger50 ) are 60+ so you aren't so out of place! Never too old to learn!
@stevenpbarrett
V0latyle said:
Odd. I wonder if that was a Cold War thing. Anyway, welcome to XDA, a lot of us (especially the moderator staff like @Oswald Boelcke and @Badger50 ) are 60+ so you aren't so out of place! Never too old to learn!
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Also from me a very warm welcome! I commenced to serve my country, NATO i.e. the free world in the Western hemisphere at that time, too. Actually much easier than the times afterwards, which I experienced until my retirement or monitor nowadays. But I think we better don't turn into any political discussions on XDA.

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