I've been thinking about giving a Moto X a try recently and I had a few questions for those of you who own one.
Other than while driving, what are some of the unexpected uses you have found for touchless control? In theory it sounds great, but a couple of the things I can think which would be really handy (throwing it into cupholder in car and turning on bluetooth with voice, pausing Netflix stream that is beng chromecasted) can't be done because of limitations of Google Now/Search, rather than Touchless Control itself.
Also, most people seem to love active notifications. However, if the clock flashes every so often without notifications, it seems like one would occasionally not notice a real notification unless you actually glance at it, rather than something you see out of the corner of your eye and know you need to check on. Also can they be prioritized? Like the messaging icon will appear rather than gmail if you have both, because it is higher priority?
Thanks for any information.
evolvd said:
I've been thinking about giving a Moto X a try recently and I had a few questions for those of you who own one.
Other than while driving, what are some of the unexpected uses you have found for touchless control? In theory it sounds great, but a couple of the things I can think which would be really handy (throwing it into cupholder in car and turning on bluetooth with voice, pausing Netflix stream that is beng chromecasted) can't be done because of limitations of Google Now/Search, rather than Touchless Control itself.
Also, most people seem to love active notifications. However, if the clock flashes every so often without notifications, it seems like one would occasionally not notice a real notification unless you actually glance at it, rather than something you see out of the corner of your eye and know you need to check on. Also can they be prioritized? Like the messaging icon will appear rather than gmail if you have both, because it is higher priority?
Thanks for any information.
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The clock flashing threw me off when I first got it yesterday afternoon - I didn't know why it was flashing, and was afraid something was messed up. After a few moments though it does slow down/stop...or at least on mine it did.
And notifications (when you have multiple) I believe are set in order of receiving them. For instance, my G+ photo upload was ready for backup, and I got a Hangout SMS. The SMS took priority, while the G+ photo upload was smaller at the bottom. So I don't think it's based on "priority" but rather "which one is more recent".
Hope that helps.
Haven't had a samsung phone since the 6 edge... I don't see an option to have notifications wake screen? The edge lighting doesn't seem to work with any of the apps. I do not want to turn on "Always on Display". Did a quick Google search and looks like wake screen notifications are no longer a feature for Samsung phones? Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
I too have noticed this. Coming from a oneplus 7 pro, any time either google voice would receive a message or google messages would receive a notification or even gmail, my screen would briefly turn on notifying me. Now after having switched to the s20 fe, while I do get an audio notification, I do not get any visual notification on the phone itself. I DO get a visual notification for text messages IF I USE samsung messages. Google voice and other applications continue to be only audio.
While I'm sure there are other apps that can trigger a screen wake, I'd like to not have to use an app, to make an app work like it had on previous phones. If switching to say 'nova launcher' or another launcher may resolve this issue, thats one thing as I have done that in the past, but I'm in hopes to be able to not have to install any additional apps to make the s20 fe act like my previous phone. I'm thinking my daughter's s8 even has a screen turn on for notifications she receives (though I could be wrong)
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I will say, while I originally stated I did not want to use any additional apps. AODNOTIFY is a great app! As always we should thank any and all of our modders and devs.
Thanks,
E|
yeah, I had similar experience. All of my searching only lead me to third party apps to solve. I'm not crazy about having to use another app just to wake up my screen when a notification comes in, but Glimpse Notifications is what I landed on and so far it's working well. It works as described, even with my s view cover case. I'm not sure yet if it has an effect on battery life so I'm keeping an eye on that over the next couple days, but at least it works as designed.
Bummer, was trying to avoid another app too. I tried Glimpse, but prefer AODNOTIFY. Thanks for the responses!
Seeing as there are dozens of people who are claiming issues with receiving notifications. I figured it's time to make this thread.
The following has worked for me to restore notifications for every single app I use.
To date, I have had absolutely no problems whatsoever with getting any notifications from any apps. Regardless of the app itself, time, battery state of the phone or 4G/5G/Wifi et cetera,
These are the steps that I have done. They worked for me. If you have already done other steps and things are not working for you. You may likely have broken something on your own, in which case these below steps obviously won't work for you.
Steps.
I got my new phone
I ran the Debloat Script
Rebooted the phone to check everything is working, no force closes etc.
Installed the apps I needed manually (did not copy from any previous device or use a transfer app)
Settings > Battery > Set to Balanced
Settings > Battery > Background Power Consumption > for messaging apps and other real-time important apps I set "High Background Power Usage"
For each app > Go to "App Info" (longtap on app) > Permissions > All Permissions > Autostart ON
Install APKPure store
Update these: Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Google Play Services, Carrier Services
Reboot
Make a test notification from another phone to my Vivo - it works.
Open the app, then use the App Manager to swipe it away from the recents drawer
Make another test notification - it works.
Most of this is just simple a' la: https://dontkillmyapp.com/vivo
I have tested this with the following apps (and many more I could not be bothered to list):
Whatsapp (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Facebook Messenger (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Telegram (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Signal (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Threema (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Snapchat (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Google Photos (sync works fine, also got shared photos notification)
Gmail (all email notifications working, also Google Meets notification reminders)
Google Calendar (calendar reminders all working)
Microsoft Todo (reminders working fine, also added shared tasks notifications working)
Protonmail (all email notifications working)
Tutanota (all email notifications working)
Weawow Weather (weather alerts working fine, plus persistent notification not being killed for weather)
Pano Scrobbler (automatically opens and detects any playing music correctly even if I haven't opened the app in days)
Youtube Vanced (subscription notifications working fine, so are recommendations)
NewPipe Sponsorblock (same as Youtube Vanced)
This allows apps to start by themselves (also when invoked by another app in the background), it also prevents them from ever being killed in the background so you still get notifications.
Other things to note:
Dark Mode - I have it set to always on, no problems with notifications whatsoever and I have never had a problem
Do Not Disturb - When the schedule is set, all notifications are still received but are muted
com.vivo.pem - Still installed on my phone, I never removed it and I do not recommend removing it
120hz Mode - I am using this all the time
Battery saving or task killing apps? - I have none installed. They are all unreliable.
TradingShenzhen - I got my phone from here
System Version - PD2227C_A_13.0.19.0.W10.V000L1
Battery drain?
My phone barely even drains 20-35% in a day. This is by far the best phone I have ever used when it comes to battery drain. I have never had a problem with the battery draining at all. Not even randomly or overnight. The longest I have left my phone on without any kind of reboot is about 9 days. The phone drains on average about 1.3% per hour if I am not using it and 3% an hour with light use. Even using the camera and taking 4K video, the drain is very minimal. I use auto brightness and I have the always-on display turned off.
Battery drain will always come down to how you use your phone:
How much you pick it up,
Did you Debloat your phone,
Do you play games (I do not),
Are you using 5G (much higher drain) or Wifi (lower drain),
Do you have lots of apps syncing high volumes of data in the background,
Do you have Bluetooth on constantly and NFC in the background always on,
Do you watch a lot of videos (I do not),
Do you regularly properly close apps you aren't using?
and all things like this. As always YMMV. For me though, I could not get a single day out of my Samsung S22U. I can get almost 3 days out of my Vivo X90 Pro+ whilst taking a lot of photos, quite a few videos, having a few calls and using my browser a lot.
Here's 2 screenshots of my battery usage. Purple bars are background usage, which you can see is really nice and low for all apps. Turquoise (blueish) is foreground usage and I think those levels are normal. Notion is a massive battery hog, so is Libby. Notion due to sub-optimal coding and the over aggressive syncing it does when you're even just typing. Libby is just badly made. Likely I will also prevent Libby running in the background, but I allowed it only so I get notifications when my books are ready.
What about *x* app?
I don't know man, do these steps and try it for yourself. This is just what I have done and I have literally a perfect experience with this phone so far, which I think is to be expected because I wasn't chopping up my OS and removing system apps etc. If you feel like you are having a really bad experience, likely the only way forward is to fully factory reset the phone and try these steps.
What about com.vivo.pem?
Look. Friend... If you haven't figured out by the screenshot evidence and everything else I've been saying here and in my other threads, that you absolutely do not need to remove it (and absolutely should not). Then I can't help you and I won't say it again. What I will say though is this. There are a few people who have removed it, all of which STILL are having problems. ALL of which who are facing far WORSE problems like battery drain so bad that one of the biggest advocates for deleting this package is now selling his Vivo X90PP because he's unwilling to admit he bricked it by removing this package. Yet despite this he's still telling others to remove it . What we do know? Well removing to causes massive battery drain, your phone won't even last a full day. Removing it also can make it impossible to install any apps after an OS update . Removing it can also do all sorts of other weird things with your phone like force close apps randomly and cause random restarts. So why did people remove it? Because some "genius" was convinced it was a good idea. Because one guy who owned an X80 said it solved a problem getting his notifications to work. Because instead of looking for a really solution, some guys got out the axe and started hacking. So, keep the package? The worst you'll get is what... a notification might not work (which this whole guide should fix anyway). Remove it? Then only God can help you (or maybe a factory reset). My advice: Leave the package alone. If you already removed it and are having problems, factory reset and run the new debloat script and follow this guide.
Final word
I don't really use this community at all. Nor do I check posts very often. I help out only in my spare time and I don't have any interest in being some active member. In the past I have found this community unwelcoming, toxic and full of chest beaters, so I am really only interested in getting the tools and info I need and then getting out. I am not sure even why I bothered fixing the script for everyone else, I guess because it was simple and I really love this phone and want others to enjoy it. In short, I want more good phones like this and with a little bit of tweaking it can be an amazing device. However, lately, a lot of people have been DMing me after I fixed the debloat script, like over 20 people. Please do not DM me, I will likely not see these posts at all. All my notifications are disabled now after too much spam. Plus I won't reply to them individually. Make your posts in a thread where more than just me could give you an answer and do not pose your questions to "just me". I won't help you with your specific issues. The community here has always been adamant that you need to help yourself, otherwise just buy some overpriced Samdung or iPhone and forget about XDA altogether. My 2 cents.
In any case, I hope this thread helps some people going forward.
Have you got muted group chats in Signal, Telegram and or Whatsapp?
extremecarver said:
Have you got muted group chats in Signal, Telegram and or Whatsapp?
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You're on my ignore list but I will reply to you this once only. Yes and those chats don't notify me when they are muted but my unmuted group chats notify me on every message. That is, the chats work fine, the exact same way as on my other phone. I don't want muted chats to notify me anyway.
Only viber doesnt work in dark mode in my case (it lights up screen with no content shown and no sound, no notification shown on garmin fenix 7) in light mode works perfectly
Thank you for the guide. But after some time my apps stop getting notifications again. What the solution for that? I have script 2.6 too and vivo pem active.
M5Pro60 said:
Thank you for the guide. But after some time my apps stop getting notifications again. What the solution for that? I have script 2.6 too and vivo pem active.
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Disable dark mode
ef1x said:
Disable dark mode
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I don't have dark mode.
This method don't work for me. I have read in other forums it is save to kill pem.vivo. i will try now this.
M5Pro60 said:
This method don't work for me. I have read in other forums it is save to kill pem.vivo. i will try now this.
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I currently have vivo.pem active , there is old debloat script that kills vivo pem, i would recomend that you kill only com.vivo.pem only. Delete other lines leave only vivo pem.
Also i have noticed when you run new and then old script then battery drain starts.
I always do factory reset before debloating and never restore using unbloat script.
ef1x said:
I currently have vivo.pem active , there is old debloat script that kills vivo pem, i would recomend that you kill only com.vivo.pem only. Delete other lines leave only vivo pem.
Also i have noticed when you run new and then old script then battery drain starts.
I always do factory reset before debloating and never restore using unbloat script.
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Ok thank you.
ef1x said:
I currently have vivo.pem active , there is old debloat script that kills vivo pem, i would recomend that you kill only com.vivo.pem only. Delete other lines leave only vivo pem.
Also i have noticed when you run new and then old script then battery drain starts.
I always do factory reset before debloating and never restore using unbloat script.
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Will i brick my phone? it says in main post.
M5Pro60 said:
Will i brick my phone? it says in main post.
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No
Hi mate
Can you please tell me if your floating notifications pop up for WhatsApp? (The small message preview windows at the top of your screen whilst unlocked.) They work for every app except WhatsApp on mine.
luontokoodaus said:
Seeing as there are dozens of people who are claiming issues with receiving notifications. I figured it's time to make this thread.
The following has worked for me to restore notifications for every single app I use.
To date, I have had absolutely no problems whatsoever with getting any notifications from any apps. Regardless of the app itself, time, battery state of the phone or 4G/5G/Wifi et cetera,
These are the steps that I have done. They worked for me. If you have already done other steps and things are not working for you. You may likely have broken something on your own, in which case these below steps obviously won't work for you.
Steps.
I got my new phone
I ran the Debloat Script
Rebooted the phone to check everything is working, no force closes etc.
Installed the apps I needed manually (did not copy from any previous device or use a transfer app)
Settings > Battery > Set to Balanced
Settings > Battery > Background Power Consumption > for messaging apps and other real-time important apps I set "High Background Power Usage"
For each app > Go to "App Info" (longtap on app) > Permissions > All Permissions > Autostart ON
Install APKPure store
Update these: Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Google Play Services, Carrier Services
Reboot
Make a test notification from another phone to my Vivo - it works.
Open the app, then use the App Manager to swipe it away from the recents drawer
Make another test notification - it works.
Most of this is just simple a' la: https://dontkillmyapp.com/vivo
I have tested this with the following apps (and many more I could not be bothered to list):
Whatsapp (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Facebook Messenger (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Telegram (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Signal (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Threema (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Snapchat (all message notifications are fine, can receive calls too)
Google Photos (sync works fine, also got shared photos notification)
Gmail (all email notifications working, also Google Meets notification reminders)
Google Calendar (calendar reminders all working)
Microsoft Todo (reminders working fine, also added shared tasks notifications working)
Protonmail (all email notifications working)
Tutanota (all email notifications working)
Weawow Weather (weather alerts working fine, plus persistent notification not being killed for weather)
Pano Scrobbler (automatically opens and detects any playing music correctly even if I haven't opened the app in days)
Youtube Vanced (subscription notifications working fine, so are recommendations)
NewPipe Sponsorblock (same as Youtube Vanced)
This allows apps to start by themselves (also when invoked by another app in the background), it also prevents them from ever being killed in the background so you still get notifications.
Other things to note:
Dark Mode - I have it set to always on, no problems with notifications whatsoever and I have never had a problem
Do Not Disturb - When the schedule is set, all notifications are still received but are muted
com.vivo.pem - Still installed on my phone, I never removed it and I do not recommend removing it
120hz Mode - I am using this all the time
Battery saving or task killing apps? - I have none installed. They are all unreliable.
TradingShenzhen - I got my phone from here
System Version - PD2227C_A_13.0.19.0.W10.V000L1
Battery drain?
My phone barely even drains 20-35% in a day. This is by far the best phone I have ever used when it comes to battery drain. I have never had a problem with the battery draining at all. Not even randomly or overnight. The longest I have left my phone on without any kind of reboot is about 9 days. The phone drains on average about 1.3% per hour if I am not using it and 3% an hour with light use. Even using the camera and taking 4K video, the drain is very minimal. I use auto brightness and I have the always-on display turned off.
Battery drain will always come down to how you use your phone:
How much you pick it up,
Did you Debloat your phone,
Do you play games (I do not),
Are you using 5G (much higher drain) or Wifi (lower drain),
Do you have lots of apps syncing high volumes of data in the background,
Do you have Bluetooth on constantly and NFC in the background always on,
Do you watch a lot of videos (I do not),
Do you regularly properly close apps you aren't using?
and all things like this. As always YMMV. For me though, I could not get a single day out of my Samsung S22U. I can get almost 3 days out of my Vivo X90 Pro+ whilst taking a lot of photos, quite a few videos, having a few calls and using my browser a lot.
Here's 2 screenshots of my battery usage. Purple bars are background usage, which you can see is really nice and low for all apps. Turquoise (blueish) is foreground usage and I think those levels are normal. Notion is a massive battery hog, so is Libby. Notion due to sub-optimal coding and the over aggressive syncing it does when you're even just typing. Libby is just badly made. Likely I will also prevent Libby running in the background, but I allowed it only so I get notifications when my books are ready.
What about *x* app?
I don't know man, do these steps and try it for yourself. This is just what I have done and I have literally a perfect experience with this phone so far, which I think is to be expected because I wasn't chopping up my OS and removing system apps etc. If you feel like you are having a really bad experience, likely the only way forward is to fully factory reset the phone and try these steps.
What about com.vivo.pem?
Look. Friend... If you haven't figured out by the screenshot evidence and everything else I've been saying here and in my other threads, that you absolutely do not need to remove it (and absolutely should not). Then I can't help you and I won't say it again. What I will say though is this. There are a few people who have removed it, all of which STILL are having problems. ALL of which who are facing far WORSE problems like battery drain so bad that one of the biggest advocates for deleting this package is now selling his Vivo X90PP because he's unwilling to admit he bricked it by removing this package. Yet despite this he's still telling others to remove it . What we do know? Well removing to causes massive battery drain, your phone won't even last a full day. Removing it also can make it impossible to install any apps after an OS update . Removing it can also do all sorts of other weird things with your phone like force close apps randomly and cause random restarts. So why did people remove it? Because some "genius" was convinced it was a good idea. Because one guy who owned an X80 said it solved a problem getting his notifications to work. Because instead of looking for a really solution, some guys got out the axe and started hacking. So, keep the package? The worst you'll get is what... a notification might not work (which this whole guide should fix anyway). Remove it? Then only God can help you (or maybe a factory reset). My advice: Leave the package alone. If you already removed it and are having problems, factory reset and run the new debloat script and follow this guide.
Final word
I don't really use this community at all. Nor do I check posts very often. I help out only in my spare time and I don't have any interest in being some active member. In the past I have found this community unwelcoming, toxic and full of chest beaters, so I am really only interested in getting the tools and info I need and then getting out. I am not sure even why I bothered fixing the script for everyone else, I guess because it was simple and I really love this phone and want others to enjoy it. In short, I want more good phones like this and with a little bit of tweaking it can be an amazing device. However, lately, a lot of people have been DMing me after I fixed the debloat script, like over 20 people. Please do not DM me, I will likely not see these posts at all. All my notifications are disabled now after too much spam. Plus I won't reply to them individually. Make your posts in a thread where more than just me could give you an answer and do not pose your questions to "just me". I won't help you with your specific issues. The community here has always been adamant that you need to help yourself, otherwise just buy some overpriced Samdung or iPhone and forget about XDA altogether. My 2 cents.
In any case, I hope this thread helps some people going forward.
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I killed vivo.pem at sunday and it's good. what you say from remove is not right!
@M5Pro60 but do your floating notifications pop up for WhatsApp?
Btw, if I have my phone in vibration mode with screen off it doesn't vibrate for many app notifications . Seems to be just another bug related to notifications. Then when I switch on the screen the notifications arrive delayed sometimes, sometimes not....
Also the notifications don't make it onto my Fenix 6X pro with vibration mode...
Just a rotten software with bugs everywhere....
I did everything as in the first post:
- reminders made on the same day (yesterday) - everything worked
- today, next day, again Google Calendar does not send notifications.
All settings are preserved, nothing has changed.
I don't understand what happened now?
Tiverask said:
@M5Pro60 but do your floating notifications pop up for WhatsApp?
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Yes works when watch YouTube landscape.
usersmrtph said:
I did everything as in the first post:
- reminders made on the same day (yesterday) - everything worked
- today, next day, again Google Calendar does not send notifications.
All settings are preserved, nothing has changed.
I don't understand what happened now?
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Yes I have the same. I delete vivo.pem and now all is good. Main post is lie about pem.
M5Pro60 said:
Yes I have the same. I delete vivo.pem and now all is good. Main post is lie about pem.
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I can't find myself ... com.vivo.pem
I've got two questions which are related. I have Do Not Disturb on my phone set up to start each night at 10 PM, and not go off until 8 AM the next day. For some reason I've been awaken several mornings, early in the morning (between 4 and 5 AM). A single beep as if it's coming from a social media app with someone informing me that they've posted a picture of their toenail clippings. Why am I getting these EXTREMELY IRRITATING NOTIFICATIONS??????????????????????????
Second question. I have tried to find what notification it is that comes through in the wee hours of the morning, but it is impossible for me to find it, unless I spend hours scrolling through all notifications in the Notifications center. That's because the default sort order is by category. Is it possible to change the default sort order to chronological order, with most recent at the top? That would help immensely.
You didn't mention searching Settings. Did you search there for that feature's keyword?
It comes up quickly with the keyword search as disturb.
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You didn't mention searching Settings. Did you search there for that feature's keyword?
It comes up quickly with the keyword search as disturb.
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Excellent question. I didn't search Settings because I thought all settings had been transferred by Samsung's Smart Switch app, when I migrated things off my old phone to my new phone. I know that other settings had been migrated, so I thought all settings had been migrated. Well, it turns out that I was wrong. It turns out that the Do Not Disturb settings had not been migrated. In fact, it wasn't even turned on. So, I turned that on and reset the dates/times. So, my bad. However, like I said, other settings had been moved. I hadn't considered the possibility that not all settings hadn't been migrated.
Rod F said:
Second question. I have tried to find what notification it is that comes through in the wee hours of the morning, but it is impossible for me to find it, unless I spend hours scrolling through all notifications in the Notifications center. That's because the default sort order is by category. Is it possible to change the default sort order to chronological order, with most recent at the top? That would help immensely.
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@Rod F it's possible, but you need GoodLock. After you download GoodLock you have to download QuickStar module for Goodlock and there you can change the notification sorting.