I am looking to buy moto edge 20 pro seems great specs
i live in greece - vodafone carrier, will i get 5g to work? the phone is not supported by my carrier
what about ultrawide 4k video? the 16mp sensor should be able to shoot 4k, any gcam improving photo - video quality?
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European versions of Exynos 4G Samsung Galaxy S20 (both FE SM-G780F and the standard SM-G980F)
Does these phones support Dual GPS with L5/E5+ signals?
Is the GPS quality good, both accuracy reported by the phone reports and compared to other GPSes?
The following post points to an app that will show if L5 is available:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/help/send-screenshot-gpstest-t4074421
The regular S20 has a much more attractive price now, but I like the flat screen and plastic in the FE. The European S20 FE 5G has SD865 with slightly better battery and performance but it is not worth over $100 extra for me.
/Gerhard
Hi I have the s20fe 5g SD version,it does not support L5 accuracy seems comparable to my mate 20 pro though which does.
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Tried comparing the S21 Exynos 4G performance against the S20+ or S10+? It's dissappointing...
I think most users are hitting their home or work WiFi and haven't yet noticed this issue with the S21 Exynos 4G.
If you have these phones and can do a comparison, I would be very interested to see if you duplicate the same poor 4G S21 problems: latency higher, download not as good and upload pathetic with the S21 Exynos series.
See my original thread here:
4G Performance on Exynos S21 Ultra is waaayyy slower than an S10+ or S20+
Hi Has anybody else noticed that the S21 Ultra doesn't seem to deliver consistent and reliable 4G speeds, particularly in terms of 4G uploading. I've done a comparison between my S21 Ultra and a S10+ both on the same network (EE) and the results are shocking. The S21 Ultra simply doesn't...
eu.community.samsung.com
Thanks.
On my phone the 4g is better than my mate 20 pro and my oneplus 7t Mclaren... (all with same Telekom sim) but my 5g is bad... 4g is faster all the time (okay im in germany and think we have good 5g only in the vig cities and due to lockdown we cant test it)
Have the Updates made any improvements for you?
I don't know. Pretty good here.
No problems....
Goku1992 said:
On my phone the 4g is better than my mate 20 pro and my oneplus 7t Mclaren... (all with same Telekom sim) but my 5g is bad... 4g is faster all the time (okay im in germany and think we have good 5g only in the vig cities and due to lockdown we cant test it)
Have the Updates made any improvements for you?
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No improvement.
The problem is exaggerated when you have only an average signal strength. The modem is much more sensitive on the S21 and does not provide a good real world experience.
Same problem here. Any solution ? Thnx
I'm getting the same performance on the Ultra as I am on the Mate 20 pro...both on LTE and 4G.
Which means that the bottleneck in my case is the carrier.
Somewhat related : I ended up forcing band 12 with less bandwidth but better signal in my area..the phone stubbornly picks band 4 for almost double the bandwidth but 10-12dBm lower signal.
My battery is thanking me. The speed isn't everything.
I have the issue where i have very poor signal although my operator supposedly has very good signal in my area.
Ever since I bought the device in february my signal has been weak. I have aroumd 110-118dbm and speed of aroumd 50-70mb. My wife has an iPhone and same operator as I do and she gets 60-70dbm and at least double the speed. This is crazy, Come on samsung. This is ridicilous.
I hope an modem update will solve it but somehow it wont. We need to make samsung aware of this issue. My battery is kind of lacking because of this issue.
Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max 5G A2411 Global Dual SIM TD-LTE 512GB (Apple iPhone 13,4) vs. Samsung SM-G998U1 Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G UW Dual SIM TD-LTE US 256GB (Samsung Unbound O3) Frequency Band Comparison
Samsung SM-G998U1 Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G UW Dual SIM TD-LTE US 256GB (Samsung Unbound O3) - Frequency Bands and Network Compatibility
Will Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra work in USA?
Will Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max work in USA?
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra Model Number SM-G998* Differences - TechWalls
iPhone - Supported 5G and LTE networks - Apple New Tab
Can anyone please tell me about the practical consequences involved here?
My friend insists that the iPhone is better for travel because of the compatible bands.
And, doesn't the S21U just have a newer version of the same modem that's inside the iPhone 12PM? Shouldn't this mean that they cover nearly all the same bands?
I hate that Samsung doesn't seem to have an official page with their bands listed, like they should!
So I got a s21 ultra imported from Canada for the Snapdragon processor - it has a few issues , eg it has Canadian Samsung pay which means I can't get the samsung card and the health app is Canadian and won't sync with my UK watches metrics for blood pressure etc because they are FDA cleared in Canada, but the one issue that seems to bug me the most is that the 5g and 4g bands in Canada are different to the UK, so the outdoor speed/signal is significantly worse than it was on my old OnePlus 6T - does anyone know if there are any solutions to this?
You could use ODIN to flash the U1 series software on (US Carrier unlocked); that would help for 4G possible but 5G, you are SOL (until Samsung makes a phone with all the 5G frequencies.. s22 ultra I hope).
I have the W series here in Canada but run the U (Carrier) sometimes and the U1 (Unlocked) 99% of the time.
So I have the s21 ultra. Love it and hate it as only a fanatic can. Have owned every Note, and am eagerly awaiting the s22 ultra. I spend time in Europe and the US and it drives me crazy that there is no version of the device that has the correct 5G and LTE bands for both areas. I have the sm-G9980 (HK snapdragon) which is dual sim and gives me 5G in Europe... but not in the US. All the 'U' versions have the US 5G (of course) ... but don't have the correct 5G bands for Europe. The 'B' is good for Europe but not the US 5G. The list goes on. It's not an exynos v snapdragon issue as the 'B' (exynos) and the '0' (snapdragon) have the same bands.
Meantime ALL Apple devices and the new pixel 6 have all the 4G and 5G bands for both areas (and I bet there are other brands that do too). I bought, first the 13 pro and then the Pixel6 pro, hoping I could adapt because connectivity is high on my needs and these devices are flagship and should be alternatives, and I really tried to adapt to them. But I returned both as I'm just not an apple person (and let's face it the devices have the same feel for the last few years), and the pixel 6 pro, which is nice, is just too stock for me, and it lacks the 'refined over the years' software of Samsung (and I just can't find a better email or, to a lesser extent, calendar app than Samsung's).
It is incredibly frustrating.
Surely Samsung can also create a global unlocked version with all the global 4G and 5G bands? I can't be the only one wanting this, or am I?
Because carriers, and because Spectrum licences are expensive.
But that's not true : even Apple doesn't have the same bands between the US and the rest of the world.
>> Even Apple (for the iPhone 13 Pro Max) has TWO modem versions, and the iPhone US model is the only one with mmWave (the "best" 5G).
Apple doesn't makes "carrier" versions of their phones - A verizon iPhone is absolutely the same as a tmobile iPhone, so by including more bands, they can move stock around the world and just add the box in the country it will be sold without excess stock when no one is buying a verizon iPhone 12 after the iPhone 13 is out - they ship it to Africa or India and boom, that Verizon US iPhone is now on a different continent.
Apple also makes cheaper phones with higher margins (iPhone 13 Pro Max 256 Gb with only 3x telephoto = 1400$, S21 Ultra 256 Gb with 3x AND 10x telephoto = 1100$) so spending 1$ more per phone on spectrum licences to avoid creating different models is a complete win.
Because of carriers, most Android manufacturers have 3 versions (US, Global, China) with different bands supported, sometimes different modems, even different antennas.
Just to be clear, I haven't heard of anyone "unlocking bands" as it could be done 11 years ago (even rooted etc). It is now much more secure (modem firmware) and most model are missing MMwave antennas anyway.
TLDR - not true, even Apple has mmWave only on US versions. However iPhones have the largest bands supported on average.
Website kimovil has a really good band comparator, you can identify 5G bands in the US and in Europe and find a phone that supports both. Only the US Oneplus 9 Pro seems to do it as of now.
Thanks for the response. I will check out kimovil. It makes sense why the Pixel would have the bands too.
Life is about compromise!