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[Analysis] This is the Huawei P8

The Huawei P8 is the brand new high range model presented by the Chinese company in May, a device with which doubtless they are pointing high, for its design and finished as well as for the chosen hardware.
We must bear in mind the big bet they did with the previous model (P7) which achieved quite poor results. By the other hand I must also say that those results were understandable due to the difference of performance with the main phones from the competitors.
Huawei is a very big and consolidated company, although not precisely known by being a smartphone manufacturer. A market where they've been working for years, improving yes. But not yet giving the stroke.
They are in fact missing something that other Chinese manufacturers (much smaller and unknown) are already doing: present a real flagship phone.
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If we look around the other brands, from the big players (Samsung Galaxy S6Edge, Apple iPhone 6 Plus, LG G4, Sony Xperia Z4/Z5, Lumia Cityman...) to the small and last arriving to the battle field (Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, OnePlus One, Meizu MX 4 Pro, uleFone BeTouch 2, Elephone P8000, UMI Iron...) they all have a unique device representing the company values and... all that the company is able to achieve (technologically and in terms of design speaking). So... why is Huawei taking so long? But most important, will the P8 be a real and worthy candidate?
Design
The new design is very different from the one used on the P7, they go away from the use of crystal surfaces and come closer to the trend of metal, each time more common in high range terminals.
In the front, the screen takes almost all the space (71,63% ratio screen-front), with the secondary camera, the light sensor and the speaker on the top... and without any physical button on the bottom part.
The left side is completely naked, nothing in there. Leaving the volume and power/lock buttons on the right side, where we will also find the slots for memory (microSD) and SIM. On the bottom side we have the plug for the USB cable and the hands free speaker, so we will find the jack connector for audio on the top side.
When we turn it down, on the rear part we find just the main camera (one of this device's treasures), which is completely integrated into the surface, not protruding even a little, together with the dual LED flash on the top, and the Huawei logo in the middle area.
The finished on aluminum results very elegant and fits very well on the hand, although the truth is that due to its big size of 5,2”, we will need both hands to manage comfortably the phone. Must also say that with just6,4mm of thickness the P8 takes the tittle of thinnest of its category.
Hardware
All the manufacturers have smarten up in the last months. Starting with the 64 bits processors that enhance the Android Lollipop experience and of course a good dose of RAM memory to ensure a good performance at every moment.
Model P8
OS Android 5.0 with EMUI 3.1
Processor Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 930, Octa core with 4 cores @2GHz and 4 more @ 1,5GHz
GPU Mali-T628 MP4
RAM 3GB
Screen 5,2” IPS LCD FullHD 1920x1080, offering a density of 424ppi with 16M colors
Storage 16GB of internal memory, expandable via microSD card
Cameras Main camera of 13 Mpx, OIS, sensor RBGW, Image Signal processor DSLR-level, 1080p video recording/1080p video playback; F2.0; Flash color temperature dual. 8 Mpx for the front camera
Connectivity Wi-Fi 2.4GHz b/g/n with Wi-Fi Direct support // BT 4.1+LE // MicroUSB (Hi-speed USB) ; TDD LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41 (2555MHz~2655MHz) // FDD LTE:B1/B3/B4/B7 // UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz(B8/B5/B4/B2/B1) // GSM :850/900/1800/1900MHz
Other sensors GPS/A-GPS/Glonass/BDS(BeiDou Navigation Satellite System)
G-Sensor, Gyroscope, Ambient light Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Compass, Accelerometer
Battery 2680mAh
Dimensions 144.9x72.1x6.4mm
Weight 144gr
Price Between 499€ y 520€.
What probably attires the most my attention is the use of a proprietary SoC (System on Chip), instead of using the popular Qualcomm Snapdragon or the (almost equally popular) more economic and with good performance MTK from Mediatek. This can be a very profitable point for Huawei, since if it works well, it will provide a great performance for the P8 , but also will show the sector that the Chinese brand can made competitive SoC, providing them with more revenue if other brands bet for using them.
Use, performance and battery
As starting point, outline that it comes with Android Lollipop 5.0, however it's equipped with the last version of Huawei customization layer, called EMUI 3.1.
From the first EMUI versions, the improvement on fluency and suer experience has been notorious, in addition to that, they have included (or improved) a few applications. However it also implies that we will find duplicated tasks and apps in our Android (something that not only happens with EMUI), meaning a bigger load of our system.
The truth is this can happen with any launcher we install, so while the performance and agility of the smartphone are good, it means no problem. Just remember that Android updates will take more time to reach us.
In the case of EMUI, it brings us an extra number of options to the ones included on any Android, so at the end we will have much more ways to adapt the device to our likes.
One of the main characteristics of this P8, comes precisely from its processor. Kirin 930 has the connectivity very present, so in every moment it can calculate and change to the network (data or wifi) which gives us more speed. For that, Huawei has equipped this model with 2 independent antennas, one of the top the other on the bottom, allowing the network change to be very fast.
Regarding the performance, the 64 bits of the Kirin 930 offer very high results, scoring higher than other models like the Galaxy Note S4 on AnTuTu benchmarks, and so, showing it can talks on equal terms to any terminal (mounting Exynos or Snapdragon). All the games, as well as FullHD videos are played smoothly... well with that hardware the remarkable news good be to have some kind of lag.
The 5,2” FullHD screen, maybe perceived as a weak point since other flagship models are starting to mount QHD panels. Nonetheless, viewing the clear quality of the image and the real density of pixels that we receive (424ppi) the experience is more than satisfactory, and surely it impacts on a lower power consumption.
Talking about the battery, after having tested a few smartphones with different battery capacity, I daresay 2680mAh are perhaps few. I have no doubts we will reach the end of the day, but a device of this category could easily have pointed to cross the 3000mAh barrier and, I'm sure any user would mind sacrificing a few tenths thick for that reason. Even though, Huawei promises one day and a half with standard usage.
Something to have in mind is that obviously when we demand it a lot (gaming or doing Skype for example) it becomes hotter, as well as any other smartphone. In this case, since it has that nice metal body and being so thin, the heat is distributed all over the smartphone surface, giving more feeling of warming than with other devices.
Cameras
This is, each time more, a critical point on every smartphone coming to the market. In order to achieve better results, manufacturers are choosing good sensors like the Sony IMX214. Nonetheless, we've already seen in many other cases that the sensor is not everything to take good pictures, imaging software is as important or even more (does anyone question the quality of 8Mpx sensor in the iPhone?)
In this case, Huawei has not share who's manufacturing the sensor or the camera, so we will simply focus on the result achieved by those 13Mpx.
The P8 comes with a optical stabilizer and has a few other improvements for low-light conditions, ultra fast shooting, or shooting without unlocking the device, time-lapse, panoramic pictures, etc. I cannot but congratulate them for the results shown, specially good when doing macro pictures. In general very sharp pictures almost without noise. True that the quality level delivered in the photography area was already very high with the Ascen Mate 7.
Even those low-light situations where almost all Chinese phones get out badly, the P8 takes very worthy pictures.
However, colors don't always look like I see on the reality, i t may be due to the dynamic range... or maybe because of the screen, in any case it's a clear point to improve.
Selfie lovers will be delighted with the 8Mpx front camera, in addition to the good quality , the device recognizes its owner face, and if we have enabled it, apply automatically some face-beauty filters when it detects it.
Finally, something very curious (and funny) is the function known as “light-painting”, capable of capturing the light during a pre-stablished time. So we can capture cars lights, stars moving,... or even what we draw using a lantern.
Conclusions
Huawei has chosen it as its 2015 flagship smartphone, so it's clear enough they have put all their talent on it, building a very serious and powerful device that can fearless face the main players of the season.
I have already mentioned the good performance, the screen quality and the great pictures we can take. In addition, the clear design and the metal finish give a premium image.
But (there are always buts), there are a few points to improve, starting by EMUI... which is not new. Every customization layer brings some differentiators over the competitors, but at the same time usually eats more resources and make the updates to arrive later. Huawei proposes some very interesting things on this version 3.1, and many users will like and use them. From my side, I would like it to be as any launcher available on the PlayStore, so if we don't like it, we can just remove it, but this is not the case.
On the other hand, the question with the heating, it's something known and not bad, but there will be a lot of users feeling their phone hotter than other models and will be worried about that.
Finally, which is at least for me the biggest fault... where is the fingerprint? If you really want to compete against the main players, don't forget to bring the same weapons. And almost all the high range smartphones nowadays have a fingerprint or TouchID sensor, as security mechanism.
It's a great terminal, meaning Huawei has received, analyzed and used all the feedback from previous models (specially P7) , also meaning they are working to bring their products where they see themselves.
The price varies depending on where we look for this phone and what extras we include on the package. Normally we should find it between 499€ and 520€. Don't forget to check if your order include shipping cost and other charges.
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coming from pixel 2xl

Is it a upgrade at all?

not really - you no longer have as close to stock android, no guarantee for updates, incompatibility with some applications, only good thing is the camera
you might be better to wait and see what the new pixel is going to be like

I have both devices, I work in the arts fields, and I value camera quality. It really is a toss between the two, camera wise, both npu help get really good results. I grew up in the eighties and I am therefore used to manipulate settings in order to get the image I want. I am no professional photographer anyhow, but I get more from the P20 pro.
Monochrome Lens, telescopic lens, and either 40 mp or reduced 10 mp photos that are equally good of not better than pixel 2 XL.
On the other hand, sure, the Google device is getting updates, as all my previous nexuses. But if you get into the maze that is sometimes the setting panel in the p20 pro, you can in about phone section help the phone learn even better by telling him your rules about apps launches , fine tune it, and in a week or so your battery life will improve with added machine learning, just as in Pie.
Battery wise it's silly to try to compare them hardware size only, as, one it is to me only a guess allot who will have lost which percentage on a daily comparable usage. Both can go beyond the next day, but you'll have to charge it at some point, that next day anyway.
Lack of Bt 5.0 but oh well, I can still manage with the bundled app on my Bluetooth speakers play in stereo and up to 50 devices simultaneously, mind you. So no issue for me here.
I had no issue with the pixel neither and it has 5.0 BT.
Responsiveness is on par, and yeah stock Google's vision of Android is lighter and less resource hungry, but, the p 20 pro is more bloated, butt the trend in Huawei is to simplify the ui and it's navigation, and make it closer to say a Google device, but not too close. Emui is like a custom rom with tons of options. But you can turn them down if you want. So being a long time nexus buyer and then some OnePlus devices also, it was a jump but as I still have all my devices at hand, I don't regret getting the p20 pro. Which I had to learn how to use, but, once done is another kind of pleasuring experience also.
Hope this helps. I guess phones have reached a plateau and it's just npu in the next years that will improve every aspects of our phone's usage and optimization, but npus are in their beginnings. Cheers.

Aur3L said:
I have both devices, I work in the arts fields, and I value camera quality. It really is a toss between the two, camera wise, both npu help get really good results. I grew up in the eighties and I am therefore used to manipulate settings in order to get the image I want. I am no professional photographer anyhow, but I get more from the P20 pro.
Monochrome Lens, telescopic lens, and either 40 mp or reduced 10 mp photos that are equally good of not better than pixel 2 XL.
On the other hand, sure, the Google device is getting updates, as all my previous nexuses. But if you get into the maze that is sometimes the setting panel in the p20 pro, you can in about phone section help the phone learn even better by telling him your rules about apps launches , fine tune it, and in a week or so your battery life will improve with added machine learning, just as in Pie.
Battery wise it's silly to try to compare them hardware size only, as, one it is to me only a guess allot who will have lost which percentage on a daily comparable usage. Both can go beyond the next day, but you'll have to charge it at some point, that next day anyway.
Lack of Bt 5.0 but oh well, I can still manage with the bundled app on my Bluetooth speakers play in stereo and up to 50 devices simultaneously, mind you. So no issue for me here.
I had no issue with the pixel neither and it has 5.0 BT.
Responsiveness is on par, and yeah stock Google's vision of Android is lighter and less resource hungry, but, the p 20 pro is more bloated, butt the trend in Huawei is to simplify the ui and it's navigation, and make it closer to say a Google device, but not too close. Emui is like a custom rom with tons of options. But you can turn them down if you want. So being a long time nexus buyer and then some OnePlus devices also, it was a jump but as I still have all my devices at hand, I don't regret getting the p20 pro. Which I had to learn how to use, but, once done is another kind of pleasuring experience also.
Hope this helps. I guess phones have reached a plateau and it's just npu in the next years that will improve every aspects of our phone's usage and optimization, but npus are in their beginnings. Cheers.
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The learning is not perfect and even if you do change the battery settings for apps, you will still have some issues with certain apps (mainly stuff linking to cloud as they don't tend to backup until you open the app, even if told can run in the background), some apps can still be killed off and you just need to restart them again.
The trend in Huawei is not to make the UI closer to a Google device, but infact the UI is closer to Apple and it is only recently they have added the option to have a proper android desktop instead of the apple style desktop.
If you concerned about updates, application compatibility, ability to unlock the devicethen go with Google otherwise if not bothered about these then yeh choose a Huawei device

True, as I wrote, npu are learning but are in their infancy, what Huawei does is similar to what pixel device can do, but Google has a much better algorithm. So you are right, and some apps don't play nicely with the emui framework, Google photos is dropping frame rates just when scrolling through photos. As for iPhone /ios looks, I guess I don't particularly practice it. No ios device in the house for.... Years.
If only the pixel had a monochrome lens or an optical zoom or a software way to deliver those, it would be great. Maybe it will happen, hdr+ is such a great standard, who knows what new capacity they can bring with the software.

Honor Magic 2 Launch Recap

The long awaited Honor Magic 2 has been released last night in Beijing. Let's have a quick recap of what this new phone has to offer.
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Exterior Design
The Magic 2 has a seamless design – its 6.39-inch AMOLED "Magic screen" takes up the entire front of the phone. With a 90,000:1 contrast ratio, colors pop vividly – blacks are darker, and whites are brighter.
The in-screen fingerprint sensor has been upgraded in size, making it so you can unlock your phone faster and more easily.
With 3D curves, even the edges have been engineered for your holding and handling comfort.
The back of the Magic 2 is equally impressive, using a similar optical vacuum coating process previously deployed on Huawei's P20 series, to produce the trademark iridescent effect. Slowly turning the phone in your hand will reveal a breathtaking display of colors.
Possibly the most anticipated feature of the Magic 2 is the dual-rail sliding screen design, finalized after millions of trials and tweaks for perfection and durability. Sliding the front camera out and in might bring back some nostalgia, but the innovative dust-resistant structure is specially designed to keep things safe and clean.
Released in three gradient color schemes: black, blue, and red.
Themes of cosmos, starry skies and galaxies have been chosen to expand your creativity beyond our world.
Artificial Intelligence
In December of 2016, the Honor Magic kick-started the research and development of AI on smart phones.
This year, the next-gen Magic 2 is unveiled with greater intelligence on its chip, OS, and apps.
The Magic 2 is powered by the world's current best smartphone chipset – the Kirin 980, first debuted with the Mate 20 series. Adding another NPU since the previous generation Kirin 970, the 980 offers 2.2 times the computing power.
The 7nm 980 is the first to use Arm's Cortex-A76 CPU, yielding a performance improvement of 75% and power efficiency enhancement of 58%. Paired with the Mail-G76 GPU, the latest Kirin chip brings another 46% improvement in performance and 178% in battery efficiency. It supports the super-fast LPDDR4X DRAM technology, offering a 20% higher bandwidth and 22% lower latency.
Introducing Magic UI 2.0: Magic 2's AI-enhanced OS
Magic UI 2.0 delivers comprehensive AI capabilities, including natural language understanding (NLU), computer vision, deep learning, as well as improved resolution, decision-making and recommendation services.
At the base of all the magical intelligence is the Magic 2's digital assistant YOYO, scoring 4,556 in AI, the smartest of its kind.
YOYO has the ability to grow with you. From the moment you turn your phone on, YOYO starts to learn and become familiar with you – your fingerprints, your voice, your face, and your phone usage habits – making your mobile experience unique to you.
Although facial recognition is a rather common feature in many phones today, the Magic 2's proprietary 3D bionic photosensitive technology can capture facial details more accurately and boasts much higher security. It even works in low light environments where traditional algorithms usually fail.
Bone voice recognition: YOYO responds to your voice and your voice only.
All-around assistance: YOYO offers great help whether you're driving, traveling, shopping, or in need of translation and interpreting services.
DeepThink option, an improvement on the 2016 Magic model, can be activated by sliding down the screen.
Just by pointing the camera at your meal, YOYO can instantly figure out the calorie count. It can also detect your skin's health status and offer advice accordingly.
YOYO can even let you control your drone with voice commands.
By linking your YOYO to your Honor account or using the self-developed Phone Clone app, it will be by your side through all the future generations of Magics.
AI Prowess
The Honor Magic 2 features AI-assisted dual-frequency GPS navigation. It’s equipped with the dual-frequency (L1+L5) Broadcom BCM4775X sensor hub, which offers location at an accuracy of 30 meters. The Magic 2 takes the precision even further, down to 15 meters, by incorporating a self-developed Hi1103 AI chip. If that doesn't sound impressive, keep in mind that current single-frequency smartphone solutions can only provide an accuracy of about 300 meters.
As shown in the track tests above, the Magic 2 can record the exact path of the runner’s route while the path the iPhone XS recorded deviated greatly from the actual one.
The HiGeo navigation engine that comes with the Magic 2 ensures normal service provision in complex and weak/no signal environments.
The Magic 2's innovative, fast, and safe 40W (10V/4A) charging brings the battery from zero to 50% in a mere 15 minutes. An additional 15-min charge takes the power up to 85%.
If you are interested in screen projection but can never be bothered to find and carry the right cable, the Magic 2 should be able to fit your needs with its wireless projection technology. With literally just a few touches, you can view and control your phone screen on a computer or TV screen.
The Magic 2 offers lightning fast download speeds of up to 1.7 Gbps when connected to a Wi-Fi network, with a 100% higher bandwidth. This means downloading a TV series of 10GB only takes 78 SECONDS.
Worried about your phone overheating while binge-watching? Graphene is used as the core material to keep the Magic 2 cool, which is 1.4 times more efficient than graphite and 2-3 times more than copper.
AI Camera
The Magic 2's sliding screen design means the build quality of its front camera won't be compromised at all by the truly bezel-less display design, nor the other way round.
The Magic 2 offers similar self-portrait functions as Huawei and Honor's flagship series: AI-assisted scene and object recognition, shooting mode selection, wide aperture (background bokeh), 3D contouring and beautification, and 3D portrait lighting effects.
The rear tri-lens camera adopts a vertical layout like the Huawei P20 series. While the P20 Pro boasts its whopping 40MP 1/1.7" lens, the Magic 2 prides itself on its 16MP ultra wide-angle sensor (17mm focal length). Together with a 24MP monochrome and 16MP color lenses, the Magic 2 offers utterly fantastic phonetography experiences.
Kirin 980's dual NPUs allows the Magic 2 to recognize over 60 kinds of scenes and objects, providing expert advice on more than 1,500 settings.
If you've noticed that reds are frequently messed up in portrait photography, cheer for the Magic 2 as this won't be an issue for its triple-camera.
Another thrilling camera feature the Magic 2 has taken from the P20 is AI-supported Image Stabilization (AIS) technology, which enables handheld night shooting with up to 6 seconds of exposure.
Here's another cool camera feature: When you take a long video with the Magic 2, it can intelligently sort through and produce a 10s clip spotlighting each subject.
Conclusion
All in all, the Honor Magic 2 is another important mark in the evolution of smartphone artificial intelligence. It's also packed with the brand's ground-breaking proprietary innovations. While the first Magic model released in 2016 was more of a "concept" phone, Honor has turned mature device-end AI into reality with the Magic 2. As benchmarking and testing start on the Magic 2, you'll soon be able to see for yourselves whether this lesser-known but equally extraordinary series has truly disrupted the competition.

The first things to do with your realme x2 budget king

First, I strongly believe that sub $300 phones can do almost everything you'll ever need
in your Android phone as Budget phones keep getting better and better.
Realme x2 is the latest proof of this and it took me some time to research to come to
this conclusion from this thread
I was about settling for Mi 9 Lite (Mi CC9) when the global version of X2 came out
and it turns out that the only thing I will miss is IR blaster, which is not a deal-breaker
when you compare it to the things I could gain with Realme X2 over it.
I just ordered Realme X2 Global version (8/128G) here for $279 with free shipping which is fast.
You could even get a better deal with 11.11 festival around the corner but this is a great
value. And as my tradition is, I always discuss the first things I do with a new phone.
BOOTLOADER UNLOCK
This one is still a mystery on how to unlock the bootloader but a mystery I am determined
to find an answer to before my phone arrives in about 2 weeks.
TWRP, ROOT, AND MAGISK
I am not sure how much bloatware is in X2 Global version but I usually use phones
with root access so, I will have to get that.
I am a bit worried about the poor Dev community response to this great phone but I am
not perturbed bc it is still a new phone.
ALL KINDS OF TEST
I don't usually believe in antutu benchmarks but I'll add the test for others who will love to see it.
I am a real-life day to day usage test kind of person. Wifi download speeds, file copy and write speeds,
LTE download speeds, multiple SOT test, multiple battery drain/Charging test, NFC test, Gcam, Photos and
videos, inbuilt mic recording quality, GPS test, Bluetooth tests, OTG test etc.
SD730G is here to stay and will still be a 2020 budget king SoC contender so, you cannot go wrong with
Realme X2

Good post.
What some people don't realise that the difference between 730G and 855+ SoC is very minor and you can't feel it in your every day use. But for some reason people are willing to pay $200-$300 more for a 855+ device
Also the new hyp about over 100MP cameras is pretty riddiculous. Taking 100MP photos everyday is just so unpractical and more often than not, it would distort the quality of the photo.
I am pretty hopeful that the dev community will pick up once the device is a little older e.g. in 6 to 8 months time. We should be able to unlock the bootloader and get custom ROMs for it.

Jeanz Sensation said:
Good post.
What some people don't realise that the difference between 730G and 855+ SoC is very minor and you can't feel it in your every day use. But for some reason people are willing to pay $200-$300 more for a 855+ device
Also the new hyp about over 100MP cameras is pretty riddiculous. Taking 100MP photos everyday is just so unpractical and more often than not, it would distort the quality of the photo.
I am pretty hopeful that the dev community will pick up once the device is a little older e.g. in 6 to 8 months time. We should be able to unlock the bootloader and get custom ROMs for it.
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The main beef I had with realme marketing strategy was the close proximity of X2 and X2pro
The X2pro took out the shine from X2 a bit as I strongly believed that X2 is a better all-round phone
than Redmi Note 8pro. They should have given it 3 - 6 months Gap before marketing the pro version
Xaiomi selling Mi Note 10 with (SD 730G) way higher than X2 is a great marketing Advantage for
Realme X2 which is not doing too badly on the megapixels count race. Megapixels don't count
all that much (ask Pixel and iPhone) good sensors and software are way more important.
Once the dev community picks up, you can even tweak this phone to get an improved
performance and software experience.
I am not interested in spending an extra $150 - 250 for SD855 it makes no sense to pay that
to get 4k 60fsp that I may not ever use as 4k30fsp is large enough. It's like paying more to
get a more power-hungry processor, Power draining 90Hz and stereo speaker when I
consume all my media with headset or Bluetooth, Yeah! I'll pass, not a heavy gamer and even if I do, SD730G can game heavy. The real-life difference is so minute and insignificant. Unfortunately, some people still buy phones only antutu benchmark scores

Like Bolumstar said, Realme killed the x2 when they released the x2pro almost immediately. A quick search of realme x2 on google, and all you will see is realme x2pro. It was really annoying cos this is a great around phone. 730G is as good as it gets for me. Anything higher is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer. What exactly am I gonna do with 108mp camera? Take a picture of the solar system? 64mp is already crazy enough. 108mp is madness.
I have the China version and I can't wait to install the global rom on it. I'm hoping on all the tech guys here to come up with some instructions on how to go about. Thanks

we can install the global rom on the CN version?

acefile1031 said:
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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I hope so. Hardware is the same, so it is possible to install Global on it... I think so.

acefile1031 said:
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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unfortunately you cant?

acefile1031 said:
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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No for now but when custom Recovery and Roms comes out you will be able to do that

uninstalling apps store browser and wallet app through adb command is also very convenient

It's here people! And it is gorgeous
Original EU version 8/128G
I am loving it. Got the latest update and the
Night mode is legit

macmilla said:
730G is as good as it gets for me. Anything higher is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer.
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You said it. Totally agree. I'm a Pixel 3a user (which has the even "worse" 670), and I definitively don't think that I will need even a Hertz more of CPU. And I'm surely not the "average user" person.
I'm thinking of actually buying this for my mother or give her the Pixel 3a and take this one, but I think I kinda fall in love with the Pixel experience right now (also if Android 10 is pretty buggy IMHO).

the_wing said:
You said it. Totally agree. I'm a Pixel 3a user (which has the even "worse" 670), and I definitively don't think that I will need even a Hertz more of CPU. And I'm surely not the "average user" person.
I'm thinking of actually buying this for my mother or give her the Pixel 3a and take this one, but I think I kinda fall in love with the Pixel experience right now (also if Android 10 is pretty buggy IMHO).
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The Pixel 3a is a rip-off in comparision. BTW. it is not all about performance, the 730G is much more efficient.

Realme x2 is a great phone. On the processor you have already said enough, the cost difference with the slightly more powerful processors is too much not to consider the best 730g of these.
Obviously the performance of a smartphone is not the result of the soc alone, but the X2 is the set of these, of a good amount of ram, 8GB in LPDDR4X, a UFS 2.1 internal storage, a super amoled FHD + display with a readability spectacular in all light conditions and with any reading angle. I use it with a Samsung V3 512 GB sd card and the file transfer from the internal storage to the latter is very fast. the connectivity sector is also excellent, good wifi and LTE reception, excellent bluetooth, completed by the presence of the NFC. as for energy consumption it is easy to spend praise, I read the battery drain on the forum, well I have no knowledge of it, I have always used the Ampere widget on the home to keep the current constantly under control and so far I never had having seen a smartphone consume only 100 mh at rest between 350 and 700 in use, even heavy. To this must be added the VOOC recharging speed which is really fast and unimpeded, I explain, with the redmi you have the quick charge which should give almost the same performance, but from personal experience I know it is not so, while I loaded with a charger quick 3 the phone became a stove, temperatures between 45 and 50 degrees, throttling and reducing the charging current from 3200 m to just 1500. The Realme quietly charges with temperatures of only 30 ° at 3400 mh and drops only on '86% of the battery at 1500 as rightly needs to be.
I now come to what I think is a huge mistake that all average users make when they choose to buy one phone over another. The first question is: "How many megapixels does the camera have?"... In my opinion, a smartphone is a smartphone, it could even have six thousand megapixels, it can never, ever have the performance of a camera, even simply of average price . Photography is not done with megapixels, but with good quality optical lens, with shots chosen through optical and non-digital zoom, with lighting reading systems for choosing the right exposure times and apertures... The smartphone in my opinion it is enough that you make decent pictures of your daughter's birthday and pictures of the holiday and that's it. I give an example... How many of us really want to go around in the dark countryside to photograph the stars with the astrography function??? Because only in this way the stars are photographed, without optical noise of city lights, and I add with exposure times that they would like a tripod that follows the rotation.
The Realme as a photographic sector also decently answers with the camera stock. It has a bit too much saturation in the colors, but if like me you are content to take "normal" photos, giving up slowmotion, night photos, just look for a decent gcam that allows you to set the white control in the settings, AWB, and the HDR+ options and it becomes spectacular. Obviously this makes it clear that the photo hardware is excellent and a bit more effort than Realme would be enough to improve the software and the stock camera would be enough.
So far I have always had mid-range smartphones, starting with the legendary OnePlus One, going from Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi note 7. everyone has endured shameless modding, the One has seen six versions of android and hundreds of roms, and it scared me a little the fact that the Realme X2, both, we hope, because new, and because as has been said above was overwhelmed by the Realme X2 Pro, it still didn't have a good community dev. Instead I must say with great satisfaction that even as it is, stock, with a bit of debloat from adb, with AdGuard that removes the ads from the browsers, with Sd Maid pro that keeps it clean thanks to the scheduler, I don't even feel the lack in the slightest of custom roms and, even for the first time, even root.
Of course if there would be everything it would be easier, but, which I do not understand, Realme seems to put stakes to unlock the bootloader, in my opinion or give it a chance without detracting from the phone reducing it category in the security environment or not. ..
But this is a strategy speech and we will see how much will be exceeded by the spread of the telephone. In fact I am convinced that the development community is regulated by the demand and the offer, the more we will be the owners of the device the more modding demand there will be and the more we will have ...

Looking at current S20 and potential P30

I've got an S20 but will have to return it due to these ridiculous financing (leasing, let's be honest) plans that exist now. The price I'd have to pay to keep it or even an open box S20 or something is way more than what I can get a new P30 for. I've been studying the specs a lot, and it comes down to a few simple things, the question I have is quite simple...
In looking at the P30 or P30 Pro...
- Night mode or any effects based photography is of no use to me. I take photos at night to take photos at night, I don't want to see light where there isn't any.
- I'm a photographer and filmmaker and primarily use DSLRs and pro cameras so mobile phone trickery to create on the fly effects are truly pointless to me.
- If I've ever taken a photo with zoom over the last 15 years it's been to read something or see something a far distance away. Again, I'm old fashioned, but without glass, zoom isn't zoom, and 3x..5x.. we're not talking leaps and bounds here.
- I prefer a phone that shoots 24fps, that's the filmmaker in me talking, but again, I'm not doing any of my serious filmmaking projects with a phone so this is more pointless pickiness than necessity.
- I need smooth operations in the UI and OS. I don't like the OneUI look, feel, or immersion into the phone with Samsung's software everywhere, gallery is a nightmare of trendy effects and "story-telling" photo arrangement modes.
- I do like the latitude and just what the raw camera can do on the P30 vs the S20. Normal and manual mode is all I shoot and in those in specs and good samples, the P30 seems to do far better than the S20.
Questions:
1. Would you maybe just find a way to keep the S20?
2. For my needs, I don't really have any use for the far more expensive P30 Pro, do I?
Thanks to anyone who can help me out. Am I missing something? The P30 being better for MY needs given the financial and tech elements is what my research is telling me.