Hello.
I've always used phones with a notification led so things were pretty simple. This one doesn't have a led and while the colored screen edges were ok with MIUI, I'm using crDroid and I can't replicate the same behaviour (I've turned on that option on ambient display settings but nothing lights up after a notification pop). I've tried the app "aod notification light for pixel" from the google play store and it works alright but the battery drainage is crazy (overnight it drained pretty much half my battery), being responsible for 20% usage of a full charge.
What workaround have you found? Do you just live without any notification alert?
Notification alerts are overrated. Back then we had a nice rgb small led, now mostly gone. Try pick up gesture on ambient light. Or turn on edge lighting, crdroid should have it.
I use True Edge from playstore, it's free, tons of customizations. To change the pattern, i had to watch a advertisment only once, so not much problems with it.
Klaus69 said:
I use True Edge from playstore, it's free, tons of customizations. To change the pattern, i had to watch a advertisment only once, so not much problems with it.
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How's the battery drainage using that app?
diogofd8 said:
How's the battery drainage using that app?
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Not even in the app list on batt usage.
Because the actual battery drain is under "Display"
(But I don't expect it to be high, with conservative settings anyway.)
I hate it that they removed the LED from newer phones, lighting up the display for mere notifications seems so out of place. Thanks for the advice, I'll look around some options and report back if I find something interesting.
@diogofd8 Then again with AMOLED displays, showing a small notification on display is pretty much equivalent to using a dedicated LED as far as battery drain goes.
I vaguely remember there used to be an app to pretty much simulate a notification LED when AMOLED displays were first introduced on Android by literally just showing a couple of pixels in various color, but can't remember how it was called and no idea if it even exists still.
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@diogofd8 Then again with AMOLED displays, showing a small notification on display is pretty much equivalent to using a dedicated LED as far as battery drain goes.
I vaguely remember there used to be an app to pretty much simulate a notification LED when AMOLED displays were first introduced on Android by literally just showing a couple of pixels in various color, but can't remember how it was called and no idea if it even exists still.
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I've tried the app "aod notification light for pixel" from the google play store and it works alright but the battery drainage is crazy (overnight it drained pretty much half my battery), being responsible for 20% usage of a full charge. It's basically the functionallity you've mentioned and I don't think 20% is just due to the light... oh well...
Klaus69 said:
I use True Edge from playstore, it's free, tons of customizations. To change the pattern, i had to watch a advertisment only once, so not much problems with it.
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Looks really nice and with network access blocked in the settings there's really no chance of ads being shown and data collection problem with Google Analytics is solved too.
The only real downside is that the app isn't open source and uses Google Libraries.
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I've heard that a black screen will use very little energy, so I tested it myself. I put Aldiko in night mode on a blank page for an hour. My phone used 17% battery (97% from the display) in this hour. Was there some flaw in my testing? Did I misunderstand the claim? Is there some setting that I need to change? Or is this normal?
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I've heard that a black screen will use very little energy, so I tested it myself. I put Aldiko in night mode on a blank page for an hour. My phone used 17% battery (97% from the display) in this hour. Was there some flaw in my testing? Did I misunderstand the claim? Is there some setting that I need to change? Or is this normal?
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just run your charge to 100%, unplug your phone and put it to sleep immediately, and check after an hour.
theres a true reading.
I think he's trying to get a reading of the battery usage with the screen "running" the color black. By putting it to sleep the screen isnt really running. Try the experiment again see if you get the same results. then try it with a white and lets see the difference.
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I've heard that a black screen will use very little energy, so I tested it myself. I put Aldiko in night mode on a blank page for an hour. My phone used 17% battery (97% from the display) in this hour. Was there some flaw in my testing? Did I misunderstand the claim? Is there some setting that I need to change? Or is this normal?
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While black uses almost no power, there is a small flaw to your logic. Even though you were displaying an all black screen, anything using CPU cycles in the background is still running (as opposed to if the screen was in sleep mode--which is where the recent bug in facebook came from). The app could also be draining battery waiting for things like touch-sensitive controls.
The claim isn't that black pixels use no power, it's that they use drastically less as opposed to a colored pixel. An AMOLED screen uses a lot of power, and an SAMOLED will at use close to (or more) than that. The idea is that you'll lose far less battery life with a black screen than you will with a screen that's all lit up, which isn't true of a standard LCD.
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An AMOLED screen uses a lot of power, and an SAMOLED will at use close to (or more) than that. The idea is that you'll lose far less battery life with a black screen than you will with a screen that's all lit up, which isn't true of a standard LCD.
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not quite. it depends on what is being displayed.
quoting wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED#Disadvantages
Power consumption: While an OLED will consume around 40% of the power of an LCD displaying an image which is primarily black, for the majority of images it will consume 60–80% of the power of an LCD - however it can use over three times as much power to display an image with a white background such as a document or website. This can lead to disappointing real-world battery life in mobile devices.
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as far as super amoled: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_AMOLED
Compared with the first-generation AMOLED, the Super AMOLED advantages are:
* 20% brighter screen
* 80% less sunlight reflection
* 20% reduced power consumption
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vizir said:
not quite. it depends on what is being displayed.
quoting wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED#Disadvantages
as far as super amoled: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_AMOLED
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I assume you're more or less commenting on general power consumption, because both of those things backed my side about how it uses even less power when displaying blacks versus whites. The only thing different than what I said is that wikipedia claims it uses less power some of the time, but more power other times, so I'm not sure which part you're disagreeing with by saying "not quite."
Hello,
Just a few days ago i rooted my phone (1-click method), flashed a new radio and CM6-N1 to solve another battery issue i had, which was indeed solved.
The battery life is way better (~6-7 hours), but thats still not good enough, ive been able to get 12 hours or so from it a few months ago.
But anyway, my issue now is, that when using "Powertutor" to check which apps uses my battery, i see the native messaging app up top, and when i only check which apps uses energy from the OLED screen, and set the time past minute, i see that the messaging app is using 50% of the OLED's energy consumption, while Powertutor uses the other 50%. I get why powertutor uses the OLED, seeing as thats the app ive got open, and can see on my screen. But why does the messging app use the remaining 50%? That doesnt quite make sense to me.
Even when i look at OLED energy usage over the last day, the messaging app is at 49,3% [3:36:33] 3.8kJ
Tried rebooting, killing the messaging process, disabling notifications etc from the messaging app (i use handscent as my text messaging app). But im not really sure what to do now, and ive been unable to find any help regarding this issue.
How can I fix this?
Thank you for helping me out
Chris
To be honest, it sounds like Powertutor doesn't work properly.
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To be honest, it sounds like Powertutor doesn't work properly.
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On their website they do talk about some errors in the estimation:
FAQ:
1. Why does PowerTutor require root access on my Nexus one? What happens if I don't allow root access?
This is because PowerTutor is trying to access the pixel information in Nexus one to get a better estimation of the power consumption of the screen. Nexus one is using OLED (Organic LED) screen instead of LCD screen. This makes the power consumption of the screen more sensitive to the image being displayed. Hence, to get a more accurate estimate, we access the framebuffer which gives more information of each pixel being displayed. The error for power estimation is less than 3% for OLED power estimation in this case.
If root access is not granted, PowerTutor will keep functioning without accessing the pixel information. The OLED power estimation is less accurate and the error for power estimation can be up to 20% in this case.
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But that appears to mostly be the case only when root is not given, and i have given the app root :/
Hello, I have this case and I wonder if it is possible to make the display always on. In that way I can see faster any notifications...
VERY GOOD idea !!!
I own the led flip cover and it's very great and wonderfull but much more great if AOD available ... but what battery drain effect if it's possible or hack made it ?
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VERY GOOD idea !!!
I own the led flip cover and it's very great and wonderfull but much more great if AOD available ... but what battery drain effect if it's possible or hack made it ?
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I don't believe that a few leds will have a huge impact in the battery drainage. My personal opinion is that I am ok with an extra battery drain, in order to achieve the result I want. I believe that it would be very useful to have AOD the time and if you have any notification the LEDs to make a loop showing time and notifications ( I don't know if I expressed my thought correctly in order to understand it)
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I don't believe that a few leds will have a huge impact in the battery drainage. My personal opinion is that I am ok with an extra battery drain, in order to achieve the result I want. I believe that it would be very useful to have AOD the time and if you have any notification the LEDs to make a loop showing time and notifications ( I don't know if I expressed my thought correctly in order to understand it)
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This. I agree completely. This should be an option inside the icon editor software.
Have you found anything?
I agree!
I agree, they must do something and show at lees a notification light.
I notice that the led view not working on wireless charger.
Chrisblou23 said:
I agree, they must do something and show at lees a notification light.
I notice that the led view not working on wireless charger.
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it is working. But only when LEDs are off.
How do you control screen brightness on your Pixel 4 / 4 XL?
To help battery life, I have read that Ambient display or Adaptive Brightness and that EQ thing too, can be a bit of a battery drainer, and it's best to just set your brightness yourself. But there's no easy quick way to do that it seems? Other than going into Settings - Display, and sliding the bar up or down to get the specific % you want.
Is there an app, or what are you guys doing?
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How do you control screen brightness on your Pixel 4 / 4 XL?
To help battery life, I have read that Ambient display or Adaptive Brightness and that EQ thing too, can be a bit of a battery drainer, and it's best to just set your brightness yourself. But there's no easy quick way to do that it seems? Other than going into Settings - Display, and sliding the bar up or down to get the specific % you want.
Is there an app, or what are you guys doing?
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I'm a full manual kinda dude. Inside, i'll set it at 50, then up to 90 or so when I go outside. If it's really bright, then i'll hit my HBM widget :good:
I run it with adaptive brightness on and ambient EQ on. Time saved on micro managing something like brightness is worth a little battery life. I calibrate my adaptive brightness to 0% in pitch dark and don't touch it anymore.
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I run it with adaptive brightness on and ambient EQ on. Time saved on micro managing something like brightness is worth a little battery life. I calibrate my adaptive brightness to 0% in pitch dark and don't touch it anymore.
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I like doing that thanks.
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I used to use manual for my OnePlus 7 Pro because that thing was horrible with setting brightness for me. It would always get too dim. This Pixel, however, has solid auto brightness and doesn't drastically increase or decrease.
Battery life part isn't an issue for me since I don't really notice a huge drain with it on + I'm almost always around a charger anyway.
For those that aren't aware the auto-brightness on these phones takes quite some time to fully adjust to your preferences. You need to keep fiddling it every time you're not satisfied and it will remember the setting you made, make note of ambient light, time of day, etc. and adjust accordingly until it has you pegged. This takes days, a week, more or less. Dutifully counsel it as to correct brightness and you may just find it works very well and can be left alone once you've got it in line. Think of it as a stubborn dog that must corrected until trained.
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For those that aren't aware the auto-brightness on these phones takes quite some time to fully adjust to your preferences. You need to keep fiddling it every time you're not satisfied and it will remember the setting you made, make note of ambient light, time of day, etc. and adjust accordingly until it has you pegged. This takes days, a week, more or less. Dutifully counsel it as to correct brightness and you may just find it works very well and can be left alone once you've got it in line. Think of it as a stubborn dog that must corrected until trained.
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Not for me. I literally just put it to 0% in pitch black and, for me, it's adjustments to all other ambient lights is perfectly fine for me. But you are correct that it can take some time but I say within a week and not multiple weeks.
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I didn't say multiple weeks, I meant the time can be days or up to a week more or less, sorry if I didn't phrase that well. Mine was about a week as was the previous pixels before it. Anecdotally it seems it takes longer if you prefer your phone brighter in general but that's just based on my reading different observations people have had of it. Your own tend to fit that mold, you clearly prefer it dim(mer) simply because the phone really likes to keep it down in the stock model so if you were good to go with just one adjustment you lean that way.
Hi everyone.
Just wanted the community's opinion on what your thoughts are about the AOD.
How many of you use it regularly? And those that do, what is your preferred setting - Always on (+/- scheduled) or Tap to Show for 10 seconds? What has been your experience with battery life and overall usability? Any tips or tricks? Any downsides?
Those who don't use AOD, could you please post your reasons, along with any experience with battery drain or screen burn in or other issues.
I'd like to use AOD (on the always on setting), but am not very sure what it costs in term of battery or screen life. The former is a non-issue for me personally but if it's going to affect screen life or quality, I may hesitate a little. I tried the tap to wake for 10 seconds thing but it seems to beat the purpose as I can just as easily go to the lockscreen with a double tap and neccessitating user-interaction negates any real benefit of an always-on feature.
My current settings are:
AOD Always on (scheduled from 7am to 10pm)
FIngerprint reader always on (so I can go directly from AOD to Homescreen without having to go through the lockscreen)
Fingerprint icon set to tap-to-show (just as a hint if i ever miss hitting the correct position when trying to unlock)
Your thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.
I only use AOD via AODNotify...that should have been an option in the poll.
I use a Tasker profile to turn AOD on (always) when a message arrives and revert back to tap to show when message is cleared.
I keep it on all the time, really helpful and doesn't seem to drain too much battery.
Btw does anyone know if it's possible to add weather info to the S21Us AOD?
One of the few things I still miss from my P4XL..
I don't use it drains a lot of battery
I use to always have it active on my 10+ but it got to be annoying. Tap on is fine.
I don't care to be informed every bloody second... that ain't no way to live.
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I only use AOD via AODNotify...that should have been an option in the poll.
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Wasn't even aware something like that existed. Thanks for the heads-up, will check it out.
Poll updated with new option.
I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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The 10+ has a proximity sensor and AOD always remains on if set to. The face down off be nice.
Maybe it caused issues in the past. Samsung is sort of hit or miss though.
I have yet to use the fingerprint sensor, lol don't even know if it works.
Last thing I want is to get locked out of a device.
As soon as you set an access password this can happen and through no fault of your own. A hardware failure or glitch can trigger it. Had no password been set the setting wouldn't be enforced. I've gotten locked out of a PC bios like that, never again.
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I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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Does the fingerprint icon shift around like the clock or battery percentage (it has very little room to move around though)?
I hope it does, otherwise it'll land up causing screen burn if it's in the same position with the same pattern all the time. Have you noticed this?
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Does the fingerprint icon shift around like the clock or battery percentage (it has very little room to move around though)?
I hope it does, otherwise it'll land up causing screen burn if it's in the same position with the same pattern all the time. Have you noticed this?
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Probably shifts it over a few pixels but in bright light over time it will cause uneven aging.
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Hi everyone.
Just wanted the community's opinion on what your thoughts are about the AOD.
How many of you use it regularly? And those that do, what is your preferred setting - Always on (+/- scheduled) or Tap to Show for 10 seconds? What has been your experience with battery life and overall usability? Any tips or tricks? Any downsides?
Those who don't use AOD, could you please post your reasons, along with any experience with battery drain or screen burn in or other issues.
I'd like to use AOD (on the always on setting), but am not very sure what it costs in term of battery or screen life. The former is a non-issue for me personally but if it's going to affect screen life or quality, I may hesitate a little. I tried the tap to wake for 10 seconds thing but it seems to beat the purpose as I can just as easily go to the lockscreen with a double tap and neccessitating user-interaction negates any real benefit of an always-on feature.
My current settings are:
AOD Always on (scheduled from 7am to 10pm)
FIngerprint reader always on (so I can go directly from AOD to Homescreen without having to go through the lockscreen)
Fingerprint icon set to tap-to-show (just as a hint if i ever miss hitting the correct position when trying to unlock)
Your thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.
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I set that sucker to always on all the time and at max brightness to boot. Cannot use a phone without the option.
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I set that sucker to always on all the time and at max brightness to boot. Cannot use a phone without the option.
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According to your battery stats, how much drain is attributed to the AOD? Could you post a screenshot at the end of a day please?
I don't know how much drain is attributed to the AOD. As soon as I get the newest Samsung I turn it in and crank it up before I literally do anything else. I keep every setting on ALL the time (Bluetooth, wifi, nfc, etc). The battery gets me through a regular day. I'll try and post a screen shot. Today I took it off the charger 3 hours ago and I haven't stopped using the phone. I'm sitting at 85%.
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I don't know how much drain is attributed to the AOD. As soon as I get the newest Samsung I turn it in and crank it up before I literally do anything else. I keep every setting on ALL the time (Bluetooth, wifi, nfc, etc). The battery gets me through a regular day. I'll try and post a screen shot. Today I took it off the charger 3 hours ago and I haven't stopped using the phone. I'm sitting at 85%.
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You monster, you.
My smartwatch (Fit2, cheap) negates the need for AOD.
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You monster, you.
My smartwatch (Fit2, cheap) negates the need for AOD.
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I have a serious addiction to smart phones, lol. I'm on mine about 12 hours a day. Mostly playing games or surfing the net. Today off my charger for 2.5 hours and I'm at 88% lol.
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I have a serious addiction to smart phones, lol. I'm on mine about 12 hours a day. Mostly playing games or surfing the net. Today off my charger for 2.5 hours and I'm at 88% lol.
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Cycle the battery between 35-65% if you can (and then raise both those numbers slowly over time) or else you will fry your battery fast.
If you're just going to buy a new phone in 2 years, then, don't bother with what I said.