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Hello, I'm looking for an opinion on this phone. I have had an offer through my carrier to upgrade early, and am interested in this device. This is aimed at members who have bought through the 3 network in the UK.
What's the software experience like?
IS GOOGLE PAY WORKING? (Important)
Are there ads everywhere?
Is there any major drawbacks?
Have you felt the need to modify your phone, or have you just installed some 3rd party apps?
Hopefully I can gain a opinion. I'm coming from a Huawei Mate 9, which is running Oreo 8.0 with EMUI 8.0 on top.
Thanks for your time
3 UK is selling BRANDED devices which aren't running official Xiaomi firmware. So you won't get timely updates. Apparently 3 UK take forever to release updates.
Use the search function it's come up a couple times.
Hey, I bought the Mi 8 from Three UK two weeks ago. Cheaper than official Mi Store and it came with a Mi Band 3.
I didn't know before but apparently all Xiaomi phones from Three come with a Vendor ROM. It's the global ROM modified by Three. I have not seen any app or specific config for Three on it, but as a vendor ROM all updates need to be "approved" by Three before a release, and yes they are very slow on this. That's annoying. I'm waiting to flash the Official ROM, to receive updates directly from Xiaomi.
I liked the device, the screen is very good, battery lasts 2 days on average usage, camera is amazing, very well built phone.
I thought that MIUI would be very different from stock Android, but not really. My previous phone was a OnePlus 3, very close to stock, but MIUI is intuitive, easy to use, it has indeed extra apps (for gallery, cleaner, security, etc) but some are useful. You don't have an app drawer, but I installed the Poco launcher and it works perfectly.
I don't use Google Pay, but I believe you can use without problems, I have the app installed.
There are ads in some Mi apps but you can easily set to hide them.
My opinion, I recommend the phone. But if you want to pay it in full, buy it from Mi Store UK. You'll have all the warranty and official firmware installed. If you want to go for a contract, you have the option to stick with the Three firmware or flash the official one afterwards (I bought a pay as you go phone because I'm not on Three network, so I'm waiting the cooling period from Xiaomi to unlock it and flash the official ROM, I'm sure that will avoid the warranty, but to be honest I never needed to use it on any phone, so I'm fine with it).
Cheers man, if you have any questions let me know.
If you want the best deal possible order the global variant from China via gearbest.
Use priority line as shipping method to avoiding customs charges.
338€ for 6/128gb variant with voucher code GBMPOI80
https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009493800071.html?wid=1349303
Got mine the other day, phone is okay, software is terrible, I have debloated as much as I can, also network seems alright with Three. What I'm really annoyed with is the lack of HD video streaming. I was aware that Netflix didn't work, but literally all other apps only display SD content which is a disgrace on a HDR 10 compliant screen.
mbgrandi;78598428 If you want to go for a contract said:
Thanks for your input, how exactly do/are you going about flashing the official firmware?
And yes I will be buying through 3, not outright, but as a contract.
I'm not exactly a complete noob, as I used to tinker quite a bit, but with Sony phones, flashing ROMs, rooting, but that was back in ICS-Marshmallow days. I was gonna mod my mate 9 but then Huawei blocked doing anything.
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Hey, basically I'm following these steps:
1) Apply for the unlock via Xiaomi unlock tool, you can find it at: h t t p s :/ / en.m i u i.com/unlock/
Usually it takes 360hrs to complete. After that time you can unlock the bootloader.
2) Download the Mi 8 Global ROM (fastboot version) and the Mi Flash Tool at: h t t p : / / e n .miui.com/a-234.html
3) Flash the ROM using the flash tool selecting "clean all and lock". This is the important part because it will re-lock the bootloader afterwards. So you will have the global official ROM with a locked device (important to use google pay, bank apps, etc).
Here is a guide that might be helpful: h t t p s : / / w w w .technobuzz.net/re-lock-bootloader-on-any-xiaomi/
I'm planning to do this during next week, when the 360hrs period expires.
I heard from guys on the Xiaomi forum that it's possible, so I'm quite curious to check it out.
I keep you updated if it was successful or not!
Metallijim said:
Thanks for your input, how exactly do/are you going about flashing the official firmware?
And yes I will be buying through 3, not outright, but as a contract.
I'm not exactly a complete noob, as I used to tinker quite a bit, but with Sony phones, flashing ROMs, rooting, but that was back in ICS-Marshmallow days. I was gonna mod my mate 9 but then Huawei blocked doing anything.
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Hello,
I bought mine through Argos ( UK mi 8 pro) I will not purchase Xiaomi again, The camera is at best only average. Yes it has, (so called) top specs but it fails on the basics.
I'm so very disappointed.
Hey! I have a Mi8 from three. I just unlocked the bootloaded and flashed the standard global rom over the top of the Three one and clean and relocked it and it's great.
I'd say go for it!
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mbgrandi said:
Hey, basically I'm following these steps:
1) Apply for the unlock via Xiaomi unlock tool, you can find it at: h t t p s :/ / en.m i u i.com/unlock/
Usually it takes 360hrs to complete. After that time you can unlock the bootloader.
2) Download the Mi 8 Global ROM (fastboot version) and the Mi Flash Tool at: h t t p : / / e n .miui.com/a-234.html
3) Flash the ROM using the flash tool selecting "clean all and lock". This is the important part because it will re-lock the bootloader afterwards. So you will have the global official ROM with a locked device (important to use google pay, bank apps, etc).
Here is a guide that might be helpful: h t t p s : / / w w w .technobuzz.net/re-lock-bootloader-on-any-xiaomi/
I'm planning to do this during next week, when the 360hrs period expires.
I heard from guys on the Xiaomi forum that it's possible, so I'm quite curious to check it out.
I keep you updated if it was successful or not!
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It is possible. I did it literally yesterday! Worked a charm!
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koloure2211 said:
Hello,
I bought mine through Argos ( UK mi 8 pro) I will not purchase Xiaomi again, The camera is at best only average. Yes it has, (so called) top specs but it fails on the basics.
I'm so very disappointed.
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Camera is fantastic for the price. I mean you could spend £1000 on a phone but who the heck wants to do that?!?!?!
Hey!
I did it yesterday as well.... Working perfectly. I really recommend to do that. Three will not release any update very soon, so go for it!
I really liked MIUI 10 btw.
Cheers
horsetastic said:
Hey! I have a Mi8 from three. I just unlocked the bootloaded and flashed the standard global rom over the top of the Three one and clean and relocked it and it's great.
I'd say go for it!
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It is possible. I did it literally yesterday! Worked a charm!
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Camera is fantastic for the price. I mean you could spend £1000 on a phone but who the heck wants to do that?!?!?!
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Mine was from Argos, so is global not tethered to any network.
mbgrandi said:
Hey!
I did it yesterday as well.... Working perfectly. I really recommend to do that. Three will not release any update very soon, so go for it!
I really liked MIUI 10 btw.
Cheers
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Just noticed you're the same chap that commented on my post on the Xiaomi forums about this topic.
Glad to hear of another success!
What's odd is that Three had stopped doing this to phones some time ago so it's odd that they're doing it again now.
Oh that's true!
Thanks for the follow up, so far so good.
Cheers
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Just noticed you're the same chap that commented on my post on the Xiaomi forums about this topic.
Glad to hear of another success!
What's odd is that Three had stopped doing this to phones some time ago so it's odd that they're doing it again now.
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Hi. I've been looking for this information for a WHILE man. It drove me nuts not having MIUI 11 after all this time. Will try flashing the rom via fastboot. THANKS!
does anyone use xiaomi mi8 on three uk network ?? can you say what your apn setting is? I was able to launch xiaomi mi8 running volte + wifi calling. but lately I have a problem with coverage. 4g speed is tragically weak/slow .. I have max 6mb / s where in the same place the iphone 8plus is 20mb / s ..
I checked on speedtest.net with the same server. From what i noticed xiaomi mi8 works only showing 4g there is no 3g where iphone 8plus has better internet even for 3g
kacluk said:
does anyone use xiaomi mi8 on three uk network ?? can you say what your apn setting is? I was able to launch xiaomi mi8 running volte + wifi calling. but lately I have a problem with coverage. 4g speed is tragically weak/slow .. I have max 6mb / s where in the same place the iphone 8plus is 20mb / s ..
I checked on speedtest.net with the same server. From what i noticed xiaomi mi8 works only showing 4g there is no 3g where iphone 8plus has better internet even for 3g
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Hey,
Three is really bad in some areas. I switched to EE with no regrets. I still have my old sim card from Three, I've attached the APN settings.
Cheers
Flashing Global Rom
Hi. I have just bought an Mi8 off ebay which is originally from three UK and has a locked bootloader then the three global MIUI ROM. Can someone definitely confirm that if I unlock the bootloader and flash the latest global ROM using miflash and relock the bootloader it won't brick. I've only ever had Xiaomi phones from China so have never relocked the bootloader when flashing roms. This phone is for my wife and I'd like to just give her a regular global ROM with bootloader locked if possible as she won't want to tinker with the phone and just wants something stable and reliable. Thanks.
Been waiting on the pie update for a while now, checked for an update today and got excited. Turns out its just a security patch. Sprint why you do this? Why come no pie for me?
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Been waiting on the pie update for a while now, checked for an update today and got excited. Turns out its just a security patch. Sprint why you do this? Why come no pie for me?
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Same dude !!!! Same :/
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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How did you achieve it
lavin40 said:
How did you achieve it
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Follow my post under Questions and Answers or go to the V40 lounge in this sub forum of Guides and i have a link there
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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Does it seem like everything is functioning how it's supposed to with US unlocked pie after unlocking the bootloader and everything?
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Does it seem like everything is functioning how it's supposed to with US unlocked pie after unlocking the bootloader and everything?
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Yes everything is 100% that i use at least even PRL update and Profile Update are still under system update in the settings menu
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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Hey man, I saw the post about doing this but my question is, will I be able to use a sim card from a different carrier or it will just install the latest software? I have the v40 from sprint and can't find a way to unlock it.
Michaeljror said:
Hey man, I saw the post about doing this but my question is, will I be able to use a sim card from a different carrier or it will just install the latest software? I have the v40 from sprint and can't find a way to unlock it.
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No this will not carrier unlock the V40 you have to talk to Sprint about that, but if you sim unlock on stock Sprint Oreo, you may lose it when crossflashing to US unlocked Pie
Stupid sprint is the only company who hasn't released it. Now even some apps say it's compatibility with my phone because developers have put minimum requirements to be able to download on the play store for my phone
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Stupid sprint is the only company who hasn't released it. Now even some apps say it's compatibility with my phone because developers have put minimum requirements to be able to download on the play store for my phone
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Yes indeed they are idiots.
Android4Lif said:
Yes indeed they are idiots.
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I wouldn't go so far as to call them idiots, just SLOW when it comes to updates. I want to switch service providers but sprint and t-mobile are eventually merging, and they will most likely be the first to roll out the 5g network in my area. the fact that i still have oreo isn't THAT big of a deal, because i don't use any apps that are incompatible *yet. I just wish sprint would get the lead out and release the pie update, almost everyone else has.
PIE on the V40 is actually worse than Oreo. Only a couple of the new PIE features are in the ROM, all the major stuff was skipped.
PIE takes away the ability to change to the low power location mode so Google can ping GPS all day for location logging and drain your battery faster. It also limits the wifi scanning frequency for the scanner aps so they are now useless and at work I have to use another phone for setups.
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In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)
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In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)
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Same question here!
If I understand it correctly, Qualcomm phones have all existing frequencies built in their chips, some obviously hidden/blocked to make it work only on specific network. So why wouldn't the v40 (unlocked) work on T-Mobile if I'm not bothered with 5G at this moment?
nyttliv7 said:
Same question here!
If I understand it correctly, Qualcomm phones have all existing frequencies built in their chips, some obviously hidden/blocked to make it work only on specific network. So why wouldn't the v40 (unlocked) work on T-Mobile if I'm not bothered with 5G at this moment?
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Jwalker1897 said:
In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)
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If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers
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If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers
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Do I need to install the LGUP flash tool first, I am a bit naïve with this. Thank you so much much for all the info btw, a little searching of what you've shared and I've already learned alot!
Jwalker1897 said:
Do I need to install the LGUP flash tool first, I am a bit naïve with this. Thank you so much much for all the info btw, a little searching of what you've shared and I've already learned alot!
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Yes, for LG devices, you need the lgup software tool to upgrade or crossflash a kdz (LG's proprietary firmware files).
This is the way we learn. It does pay to read many of the posts in a 'guide' to know what probs others have had, if there are any mistakes in the guide, etc.
cheers
AsItLies said:
If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers
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I have the US Open on my Sprint v40. Just wondering if it's nessesery to change to T-Mobile APN?
nyttliv7 said:
I have the US Open on my Sprint v40. Just wondering if it's nessesery to change to T-Mobile APN?
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Yes. Whichever carrier you want to use, of course use their apn. I use Mint Mobile and they have specific apn to use. Some features don't work if you don't use their apn.
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Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!
CollinsB said:
Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!
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0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone
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0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone
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Oh wow. So i guess one plus 5t for me then
Thanks!
I don't know about US. But I live in Canada and currently I have full 4g speeds on Telus/Koodo although I was told that 3g is the max I will get .
Device transfer speeds are better on par than oneplus6 which I use at my work phone.
If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?
Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI
It does have usb c port just not 3.1, only a few phones have it such as the OP7 Pro.
Some deciding questions of mine as well ..
I am considering getting the China version for its price, but I need to know that I will be able to switch the OS to the global version, and hopefully flash Pixel Experience in it when it comes out. The former seems already possible (still need confirming if possible, I'm a newbie in all this developer talk); as to the latter, I guess the likelihood is pretty great. Right ?
Or should I just wait and buy the Mi 9T Pro when it's out ? Again, my end result intention is to have this phone running the Pixel Android, and I'd rather go cheap if I can get away with the China version (the hardware being same as global).
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?
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Because one plus 7 has a notch and no headphone jack.
locki said:
Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI
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Ah thanks for this!
I checked and it seems very likely ill have a lot of trouble with 4G
Oh well
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Thanks for the Info!
And the dark mode looks great! Good to know if I get a xiaomi in the the future!
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
https://youtu.be/FQoXPLcoEfU
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Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
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Thank you for your help, luckily I bought the stock version:angel:
kanodiatushar said:
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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Don't own the phone, but i have a poco F1 which is pretty similar. Based on my experience, there will be a lot of custom roms for the K20 so android versions wont be an issue. For US residents, K20 is lacking several bands, in my case it is missing band 4, which is the main band used by my carrier(i live in central america). While you can get LTE on band 5, speeds and coverage will suffer quite a bit. Check the bands your carriers use, if the phone doesnt have them wait for global version.
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@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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I decided on the oneplus 5T. I got it brand new for 380.
I'm loving it! :good:
Sorry to bother but are you sure it's usb 2 for file transfer and usb-c for charging?
I was planning to buy the 256GB version but if it's really usb 2 that would be a waste. I don't mind if it's not usb 3.1, I was hoping for at least usb 3
would you mind double-checking?
thanks a lot
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1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks
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I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks
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The device hasn't been launched globally yet, and with it's launch set for India soon, im sure a lot of good/cool devs are gonna pick it up.
im counting on that too. It would take atleast a month or so for proper development to begin after launch, i think.
this device has amazing specs but lack of software support. it would be amazing some custom pie or 10 roms
i don't need asus own features
i really like a pixel experience,los or omnirom the most stock android feeling rom( +120hz you will get a more buttery smooth experience)
please somebody create one
sources are available
even zenfone 6 has custom roms
Yes please !
Alessandro999 said:
this device has amazing specs but lack of software support. it would be amazing some custom pie or 10 roms
i don't need asus own features
i really like a pixel experience,los or omnirom the most stock android feeling rom( +120hz you will get a more buttery smooth experience)
please somebody create one
sources are available
even zenfone 6 has custom roms
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one problem is TWRP hasn't even been created... Yet. And yes there really is no software support... Yet
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one problem is TWRP hasn't even been created... Yet. And yes there really is no software support... Yet
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yes exactly i really hope somebody create a tpwr and rom because sources are out
It will be nice if this phone receives TWRP and custom roms.
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Didn't it JUST launch globally today?
Let's give it some time.
i really hope somebody create a stable tpwr since sources are available and the most stable rom out there like omnirom or pixel experience
preferred omnirom
IMO I don't believe it will receive support anytime soon. Unless ROG was able to convince your standard Android enthusiast that this isn't just a gaming device. People that purchase this phone are mainly interested in one thing, gaming, not development. So, ROG has to convince those types that this device is just as good as those others.
It will be interesting to have custom roms for rog. waiting also
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IMO I don't believe it will receive support anytime soon. Unless ROG was able to convince your standard Android enthusiast that this isn't just a gaming device. People that purchase this phone are mainly interested in one thing, gaming, not development. So, ROG has to convince those types that this device is just as good as those others.
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My thoughts exactly. Custom roms are awesome but they are generally made or ported to be used by a majority of the phones out there. If we got a custom rom ie. AOSP, who would code in the air triggers from scratch?
Having said that, the stock rom is quite good. I don't have the need to root it like I did with my Mate 20X to shrink down the gigantic icons/screen because by default Asus allows a lot of customization.
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My thoughts exactly. Custom roms are awesome but they are generally made or ported to be used by a majority of the phones out there. If we got a custom rom ie. AOSP, who would code in the air triggers from scratch?
Having said that, the stock rom is quite good. I don't have the need to root it like I did with my Mate 20X to shrink down the gigantic icons/screen because by default Asus allows a lot of customization.
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Apparently the American version doesn't have volte or voWi-Fi as well.. that, along with the fact that it doesn't support band 71, are big reasons why your normal or typical Android enthusiast/ developer is not going to purchase this device
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Apparently the American version doesn't have volte or voWi-Fi as well.. that, along with the fact that it doesn't support band 71, are big reasons why your normal or typical Android enthusiast/ developer is not going to purchase this device
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So does this apply to the Tengent games (CN) version too? I am getting the cheaper CN version and then going to flash the WW (Global) Rom, so essentially I guess I am asking is this a hardware omission, or is it ROM (software) based?
And how does this typically affect say a normal phone user?
It might get an update. As for band 71, I personally don't care because I won't use it all.
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So does this apply to the Tengent games (CN) version too? I am getting the cheaper CN version and then going to flash the WW (Global) Rom, so essentially I guess I am asking is this a hardware omission, or is it ROM (software) based?
And how does this typically affect say a normal phone user?
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As I understand it, it doesn't have to do with software or hardware, they just simply don't support volte of vowifi. In China, they do. So, it's not the device, but the companies choice. May be some restrictions that we aren't aware of, otherwise it doesn't seem like a very smart decision. I was all in until I heard this. 3G is going to be removed from our networks in the next few years, so voLTE is kind of mandatory. Even now, if I don't have voLTE, I can't make or receive calls. VoWiFi, that's beneficial if you're cell signal is low for whatever reason. Maybe you work below ground or in Faraday cage style buildings. Plenty of uses for it. As far as band 71, no, I probably don't need it. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want it just in case. Always better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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As I understand it, it doesn't have to do with software or hardware, they just simply don't support volte of vowifi. In China, they do. So, it's not the device, but the companies choice. May be some restrictions that we aren't aware of, otherwise it doesn't seem like a very smart decision. I was all in until I heard this. 3G is going to be removed from our networks in the next few years, so voLTE is kind of mandatory. Even now, if I don't have voLTE, I can't make or receive calls. VoWiFi, that's beneficial if you're cell signal is low for whatever reason. Maybe you work below ground or in Faraday cage style buildings. Plenty of uses for it. As far as band 71, no, I probably don't need it. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want it just in case. Always better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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This is wrong for TMO. It's in the SW. There's an option for volte carrier check on xiaomis phones. A simple dialer code disables this check, and volte works on TMO. I'm hoping there's a way we can do this on the rog 2. That, or a build.prop edit to enable it. There has to be a setting hidden that disables volte in us.
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This is wrong for TMO. It's in the SW. There's an option for volte carrier check on xiaomis phones. A simple dialer code disables this check, and volte works on TMO. I'm hoping there's a way we can do this on the rog 2. That, or a build.prop edit to enable it. There has to be a setting hidden that disables volte in us.
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I've just been reading a little bit more up on it, and apparently, ASUS didn't pay the cell carriers in North America for provisioning costs. That's why it won't work. So, regardless of software, hardware or any other type of hackery, it won't work in North America.
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I've just been reading a little bit more up on it, and apparently, ASUS didn't pay the cell carriers in North America for provisioning costs. That's why it won't work. So, regardless of software, hardware or any other type of hackery, it won't work in North America.
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So is this just a bad/dumb move by Asus or what? I mean I honestly don't know if these omissions will affect me, all I know is I still own a Samsung until I get the Asus and was always able to use my Samsung phone how I wanted to use it
I am considering selling European version and buying Chinese one. Can the Chinese version do call recording ?
Is it allowed on their androids or android 10 doesn't allow it to any part of the world ?
I don't know, I used to have a Mate 20 Pro (mexican version with carrier firmware), and with the apk for call recording was enough... maybe if there's a way to retrieve the apk from the chinese version (if there's any), it might be possible...
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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How to access the settings page?
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Hi,
Do you share call recording apk here?
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
Phone then settings
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How to access the settings page?
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death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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OMG ! - Mate, do you know how to extract recorder.apk from that and share it here
PS - I found chinese ROM but I extracting APKs from rom file is way too difficult for me. If anyone can help with that I am willing to share that ROM file.
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yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Any chance you know how to extract APK from your phone so others can try installing it ? Can it be done simply like copying APK or it has to be extracted from ROM file...
PS - (I have ROM file, just dont' know how to open DATA files from inside, any help appreciated)
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Phone then settings
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I don't see it. Hmmmm
Sathelp said:
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
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He's talking about Mexican career. I have ELS-N39 not the UK one. I'd like to try but - can you enlighten us a bit why it won't work to spare me of trying ??
Because it's only Chinese variant that it is enabled. In the past when you could unlock the bootloader and change regions, you could change between Chinese and any other area and back and it only works on the Chinese version. It must be restricted in the ROM. I've had Chinese versions with it working, extracted the file and tried on a non Chinese version and it fails installation every time.
I use ACR on non Chinese versions, works ok but callers voice needs turning up.
Try if you want. I'm sure that everyone would appreciate a working version of Huawei call recorder on their phones, it just works perfectly but please feel free to try and feedback to us your findings as this question comes up with every model.
If you do a search, I extracted Android 9 and 10 version to the forum in the past and I can get my Mate 30 pro fired up and extract it again if you want.
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Installation failed...!
The parser did not find any certificates in the installation package.
Exactly, that is what happens on a non Chinese version
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In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Thank you. What you have described earlier, I have done in the past with HTC: change region, easily using XTC tool which would allow me to have NFC, Radio and few features which were disabled on EU version.
Your story is totally believable and true; I was just hoping it might work. I'll try anyway, you know the old say "fulls don't believe anyone"
PS - I do have ACR full pro licensed version, I need call recorder to work perfectly, it's part of my job, so even if I have to buy chinese phone, be it huawei or samsung or whatever...
Btw did you know that call recording is allowed in Italy without any announcement. I am really unhappy that this phone isn't really developed properly for various EU regions.
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
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You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
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I may consider the mi 10 ultra, I'm in the uk so will it work on our network? Where did you buy it from?
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XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
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XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
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True that, If Huawei allow unlocking the bootloader, then their phones will rock and can be sold with people worrying about Google ban, as there will be many developers out there ready to build many custom rom with Google (GMS) Integrated