As the title suggests, i'm having great difficulty connecting to any network (secure network at home which was working w/o problem and 2 other open networks).
It will show them "name - secured (wps available)" and upon putting in my password will remain "connecting" before staying "disconnected" or after it scans again turn to "saved - secured" and repeat this process.
I can manage to connect it via WPS however cannot get any access to the internet or it will repeat the process.
This happened after many trouble free days using a custom ROM. I'm not sure whether it started happening before or after i flashed a new rom, however nothing I do now seems to help. There doesn't seem to be any defaults to clear (looking through running applications and titanium backup), I've re-flashed different roms, kernels and modems with every combination of wipes and performed a 1-File factory firmware install on ODIN. I've read through towers of threads and haven't found an issue like this one but am getting frustrated in my limited knowledge of the android system.
Any advice is appreciated!
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I will also add that using my phone as a Wireless AP works fine.
Another update which may help diagnose whats going on.
After getting it to connect to wifi via WPS button I can use it however bandwith is quite low and it connects on these channels, and after increasing my distance from the router it disconnects however is still visible
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once this happens it begins cycling through "disconnected" and "connecting" again
I wish i could interpret all this information but i've exhausted my knowledge and would love it if someone had something to share.
Have you tried resetting the modem router. When I had a s2 I had a similar kind of issue that was resolved by resetting the gateway.
My wifes motorola razr also had a similar problem and after upgrading firmware, wipes I had to factory reset the gateway to resolve the issue with that device.
I have only had it happen to me once with a samsung galaxy phone but I would give that a try
txr33 said:
Have you tried resetting the modem router. When I had a s2 I had a similar kind of issue that was resolved by resetting the gateway.
My wifes motorola razr also had a similar problem and after upgrading firmware, wipes I had to factory reset the gateway to resolve the issue with that device.
I have only had it happen to me once with a samsung galaxy phone but I would give that a try
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I've tried unfortunately it's just peculiar to me how it will connect when close to the router but not when far (despite showing good signal), I also couldn't connect at the airport to 2 different APs either
can you get another identical phone to test with?
a non LTE sgs3 (i9300) should be good enough.
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can you get another identical phone to test with?
a non LTE sgs3 (i9300) should be good enough.
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yes, i used my father's i9300 last night before bed to update his app's on wifi.
one thing that's crossed my mind is how well i've flashed the roms. as each rom i've gone to i've had my APN's in most and saved connections in some of them. is there something that isnt getting re-written or deleted when flashing or formatting? i've formatted the mounts in CWM, performed factory resets and cleared my caches in any number of ways... is there something i'm doing wrong :\
even after flashing a stock rom i still had my mobile AP's and misc. files on internal SD
have you tried any of these two fixes that work for some people
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/11/how-to-fix-samsung-galaxy-siii-wi-fi-connection-problems/
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yes, i used my father's i9300 last night before bed to update his app's on wifi.
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sorry, so are you saying it works fine with the i9300? no reception issues? is it on ICS?
one thing that's crossed my mind is how well i've flashed the roms. as each rom i've gone to i've had my APN's in most and saved connections in some of them. is there something that isnt getting re-written or deleted when flashing or formatting? i've formatted the mounts in CWM, performed factory resets and cleared my caches in any number of ways... is there something i'm doing wrong :\
even after flashing a stock rom i still had my mobile AP's and misc. files on internal SD
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i don't understand what you're saying here. what does APNs have to do with wifi? what do you mean APN and "saved connection" (??) "IN" some of them? what does that even mean?
it doesn't sound like your wiping process is the problem here.
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sorry, so are you saying it works fine with the i9300? no reception issues? is it on ICS?
i don't understand what you're saying here. what does APNs have to do with wifi? what do you mean APN and "saved connection" (??) "IN" some of them? what does that even mean?
it doesn't sound like your wiping process is the problem here.
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yes, the i9300 works fine, no reception issues with it nor any device at home. it is on ICS. as did my previous i9300 on ICS or JB...
THIS phone (my i9305) was working fine for the past 2 weeks on L335K1s 1.1.. until flashing a few other roms
what i was saying that after performing a full wipe (and obviously clearing cache), and flashing different roms i've found that sometimes it will keep my mobile APN's as well as some still have my saved wifi connection and some don't..
by comparison, when i first got the phone on an optus firmware i had to send myself the telstra APN via their mobile setup page. when flashing the same optus firmware last night my access points were already there when on first boot as was my wifi network name "saved & secured".
txr33 said:
have you tried any of these two fixes that work for some people
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/11/how-to-fix-samsung-galaxy-siii-wi-fi-connection-problems/
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have also tried this, no luck.
_adamk said:
As the title suggests, i'm having great difficulty connecting to any network (secure network at home which was working w/o problem and 2 other open networks).
It will show them "name - secured (wps available)" and upon putting in my password will remain "connecting" before staying "disconnected" or after it scans again turn to "saved - secured" and repeat this process.
I can manage to connect it via WPS however cannot get any access to the internet or it will repeat the process.
This happened after many trouble free days using a custom ROM. I'm not sure whether it started happening before or after i flashed a new rom, however nothing I do now seems to help. There doesn't seem to be any defaults to clear (looking through running applications and titanium backup), I've re-flashed different roms, kernels and modems with every combination of wipes and performed a 1-File factory firmware install on ODIN. I've read through towers of threads and haven't found an issue like this one but am getting frustrated in my limited knowledge of the android system.
Any advice is appreciated!
*edit*
I will also add that using my phone as a Wireless AP works fine.
Another update which may help diagnose whats going on.
After getting it to connect to wifi via WPS button I can use it however bandwith is quite low and it connects on these channels, and after increasing my distance from the router it disconnects however is still visible
once this happens it begins cycling through "disconnected" and "connecting" again
I wish i could interpret all this information but i've exhausted my knowledge and would love it if someone had something to share.
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Im having the EXACT same issue (i9305 LTE 2gb UK on orange), HOWEVER i can confirm i've been running a stock ROM since i got it (around 2 weeks ago) so i can confirm its not just you having the issue, and it mightnt be through modding your firmware.
I get 6ft wifi range *at best*, although the range for network discovery is normal (i can see my router anywhere in the house as normal with max strength), but it only connects when within 6ft of range. Means WiFi is pretty much useless im physically sitting on/beside the router. I've tried this at my house, my mothers, friends, and at work, including wireless B, G, N and multiple brand routers (tp-link, Virgin Superhub, BT Home hub) and i can confirm nothing has worked.
Ive tried the *#0011# turning off wifi power saving to no avail. Tried turning off notification, and keep wifi on during sleep, and disabling check for internet service. nothing makes a difference.
All that happens is that it sticks on "connecting" for ages, then disconnects, occassionally saying theres no signal strangth despite there being full strength. Means unless i forget my networks its in a constant state of trying to connect which hammers the battery, and it doesnt connect when it should in the first place.
Tried doing a factory restore 3 times which has made no difference. My phone is rooted so i can use apps like titanium backup but apart from that its stock. I now need to figure out how to un-root it (to get rid of the red ! on bootup) so i can send this POS back
if you find a solution, please post it here and i will do the same. Any help or suggestions is appreciated
Livid to think we've only had the bloody thing a couple of weeks and this happens
Cheers
C
Not sure if this has been tried but what if you forget the network you are trying to connect to so the login info is erased for it and then re connect to it. I saw a similar thing on the weekend with a relatives phone after I made some changes on the router and forgetting the network and reconnecting solved his issue
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Not sure if this has been tried but what if you forget the network you are trying to connect to so the login info is erased for it and then re connect to it. I saw a similar thing on the weekend with a relatives phone after I made some changes on the router and forgetting the network and reconnecting solved his issue
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I'd definately tried this and didn't have any luck
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Im having the EXACT same issue (i9305 LTE 2gb UK on orange), HOWEVER i can confirm i've been running a stock ROM since i got it (around 2 weeks ago) so i can confirm its not just you having the issue, and it mightnt be through modding your firmware.
I get 6ft wifi range *at best*, although the range for network discovery is normal (i can see my router anywhere in the house as normal with max strength), but it only connects when within 6ft of range. Means WiFi is pretty much useless im physically sitting on/beside the router. I've tried this at my house, my mothers, friends, and at work, including wireless B, G, N and multiple brand routers (tp-link, Virgin Superhub, BT Home hub) and i can confirm nothing has worked.
Ive tried the *#0011# turning off wifi power saving to no avail. Tried turning off notification, and keep wifi on during sleep, and disabling check for internet service. nothing makes a difference.
All that happens is that it sticks on "connecting" for ages, then disconnects, occassionally saying theres no signal strangth despite there being full strength. Means unless i forget my networks its in a constant state of trying to connect which hammers the battery, and it doesnt connect when it should in the first place.
Tried doing a factory restore 3 times which has made no difference. My phone is rooted so i can use apps like titanium backup but apart from that its stock. I now need to figure out how to un-root it (to get rid of the red ! on bootup) so i can send this POS back
if you find a solution, please post it here and i will do the same. Any help or suggestions is appreciated
Livid to think we've only had the bloody thing a couple of weeks and this happens
Cheers
C
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What a relief that i'm not the only one, that is exactly what was happening to mine. (All I know is mine is an early model i9305, perhaps different to a majority of the i9305T's sold here, perhaps earlier hardware?)
After testing all I could, trouble-shooting with samsung through some pretty basic stuff, and performing hard and soft resets between flashing roms, I decided to send it off for repair, suspecting a hardware fault.
My advice to you, would be to get it exchanged immediately as if it is under a month old, it will fall under "Early Life Failure" (ELF). Whilst the issue doesnt completely render the phone useless, it was a fully functioning part of the phone that stopped working out of nowhere!
To un-root download Triangle away from here:
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-galaxy-s3-i9300/
And download your stock firmware.
Triangle away appears to require a custom kernel to reset to 0 on this phone.
When you are ready to send it away, install a custom kernel, then install the Triangle Away app.
Run this, and then turn off your phone (do not restart or go into recovery as this will reset the counter again).
Now boot straight into download mode (or the binary counter will go up), and flash your stock firmware through ODIN.
It should now be a completely stock i9305, and after performing a hard reset (with *2767*3855# in the dialer), you should now have a clean phone to send away. :good:
I'll let you know the outcome of the warranty claim and what Samsung say.
Alright chap, update time. Let me break down your post so i can answer it bit by bit.
I ran triangle away, it got rid of the red "!" showing on the top left of my phone boot screen, cheers for that!
I next grabbed the latest firmware which is I9305XXALI5_I9305EVRALI5_EVR.zip from sammobile
flashed that with mobileODIN, now back on stock firmware which I already was on, and no red "!". however when i go to settings->about device and software update, it says "there are no updates available as your device has been modified" and when you go to Settings->about device->Status, then scroll to the bottom, device status shows as "Modified". I'm gonna need to get this back to "Normal" before i send it back.
Anyways, regarding my ****uation with orange. *******************************
My contract was upgraded renewed on the 9th, I got my S3 LTE on Monday 12th (of November). On Friday the 23rd I discovered something had happened with the WiFi, and it was completely borked for no apparent reason and is now since then reduced to its 6ft range distance. spent all of Friday night and Saturday morning trying to figure it out, including rooting on Friday night to see if that helped, to no avail.
Note: between getting the phone and rooting it (AFTER i got this issue), the phone was completely stock. Now i know how stupid it was to root after discovering the issue, but sod it I've done it now, so imma have to undo it. ANYWAYS....
Saturday (the 24th) afternoon, I went to an EE / Orange retail store, where all of the employee's in the store had a try to figure out the issue, with no success. They tell me to contact Orange via the telephone for a replacement (as apparently because I ordered my handset via the telephone, i had to contact them for a replacement).
I contact Orange on the phone on Wed the 28th (by now its passed the 14 days cooling off by a couple of days) and I get through to an absolute idiot who fills the foreign call center staff stereotype perfectly.
He gets my name, phone number and handset wrong several times EACH during the call, and tells me all i'm eligible for is my phone repaired. When I tell him i'm not happy, he changes his mind and says he will "make a call" and get a new handset sent out to me, and even asked me when the following day (today) i would like to take delivery of my new phone. This call takes approx 50 minutes, 20 mins of which was waiting for someone to answer, then 10 of the remaining 30 of the actual "call" was spent on hold.
He then calls me back to tell me my iPhone has been ordered and i should have it tomorrow (today). When i pointed out i don't want an iPhone, and my phones an S3 LTE (for about the 10th time) he says "the phone line for getting a new phone has just closed at 9pm" (it was then a couple of minutes past 9) and he gave ME a number to call since HE made a f*** up of the order.
Wake up today, go to work. On my lunch break call the number, which turns out to be the insurance hotline (Orange care) The lady on the phone reads my notes and is confused, according to what the guy last night had wrote down, My phone was a Galaxy note 2, later in the story it became an S3, and then he put in a claim for me having a broken iPhone.
I re-explain everything to her, and she was very sympathetic. She told me it wasn't an insurance issue, but a fault, and I needed to speak to someone from faults. I asked her to find me a English speaking person, of which she agreed. She came back twice after putting me on hold to say she'd found someone to speak to , but they could barely speak English. On the third attempt, she found someone who "can just about speak English, I've explained everything to her, so you should be OK".
After a 5 minute wait I get put through
I get put through to a lady who is speaking in broken English sentences. She first puts me on hold while she reads my notes (insert 10 minute hold time). She says all that can be done is for it to be sent away to be repaired. I say I want a new phone, as it was within 14 days of getting the phone, and I don't want to mess about with waiting to get my phone back, I just want a new one. She says "all that's popping up on my screen is repair". I said I'd go into the Orange store and take it up with someone in person.
/end of ****uation *********************
il update you on this once i get to the Orange store, which won't be until tomorrow.
in the meantime, any ideas on how to change it so settings->About Device->Device Status back to "Normal" and not "modified"?
bigc90210 said:
Alright chap, update time. Let me break down your post so i can answer it bit by bit.
I ran triangle away, it got rid of the red "!" showing on the top left of my phone boot screen, cheers for that!
I next grabbed the latest firmware which is I9305XXALI5_I9305EVRALI5_EVR.zip from sammobile
flashed that with mobileODIN, now back on stock firmware which I already was on, and no red "!". however when i go to settings->about device and software update, it says "there are no updates available as your device has been modified" and when you go to Settings->about device->Status, then scroll to the bottom, device status shows as "Modified". I'm gonna need to get this back to "Normal" before i send it back.
Anyways, regarding my ****uation with orange. *******************************
My contract was upgraded renewed on the 9th, I got my S3 LTE on Monday 12th (of November). On Friday the 23rd I discovered something had happened with the WiFi, and it was completely borked for no apparent reason and is now since then reduced to its 6ft range distance. spent all of Friday night and Saturday morning trying to figure it out, including rooting on Friday night to see if that helped, to no avail.
Note: between getting the phone and rooting it (AFTER i got this issue), the phone was completely stock. Now i know how stupid it was to root after discovering the issue, but sod it I've done it now, so imma have to undo it. ANYWAYS....
Saturday (the 24th) afternoon, I went to an EE / Orange retail store, where all of the employee's in the store had a try to figure out the issue, with no success. They tell me to contact Orange via the telephone for a replacement (as apparently because I ordered my handset via the telephone, i had to contact them for a replacement).
I contact Orange on the phone on Wed the 28th (by now its passed the 14 days cooling off by a couple of days) and I get through to an absolute idiot who fills the foreign call center staff stereotype perfectly.
He gets my name, phone number and handset wrong several times EACH during the call, and tells me all i'm eligible for is my phone repaired. When I tell him i'm not happy, he changes his mind and says he will "make a call" and get a new handset sent out to me, and even asked me when the following day (today) i would like to take delivery of my new phone. This call takes approx 50 minutes, 20 mins of which was waiting for someone to answer, then 10 of the remaining 30 of the actual "call" was spent on hold.
He then calls me back to tell me my iPhone has been ordered and i should have it tomorrow (today). When i pointed out i don't want an iPhone, and my phones an S3 LTE (for about the 10th time) he says "the phone line for getting a new phone has just closed at 9pm" (it was then a couple of minutes past 9) and he gave ME a number to call since HE made a f*** up of the order.
Wake up today, go to work. On my lunch break call the number, which turns out to be the insurance hotline (Orange care) The lady on the phone reads my notes and is confused, according to what the guy last night had wrote down, My phone was a Galaxy note 2, later in the story it became an S3, and then he put in a claim for me having a broken iPhone.
I re-explain everything to her, and she was very sympathetic. She told me it wasn't an insurance issue, but a fault, and I needed to speak to someone from faults. I asked her to find me a English speaking person, of which she agreed. She came back twice after putting me on hold to say she'd found someone to speak to , but they could barely speak English. On the third attempt, she found someone who "can just about speak English, I've explained everything to her, so you should be OK".
After a 5 minute wait I get put through
I get put through to a lady who is speaking in broken English sentences. She first puts me on hold while she reads my notes (insert 10 minute hold time). She says all that can be done is for it to be sent away to be repaired. I say I want a new phone, as it was within 14 days of getting the phone, and I don't want to mess about with waiting to get my phone back, I just want a new one. She says "all that's popping up on my screen is repair". I said I'd go into the Orange store and take it up with someone in person.
/end of ****uation *********************
il update you on this once i get to the Orange store, which won't be until tomorrow.
in the meantime, any ideas on how to change it so settings->About Device->Device Status back to "Normal" and not "modified"?
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Sounds like you were having just as much a PITA situation as me. It surprised my friend the other day that I had to send my phone away for repair (being an iPhone user...) and surprises me too for such a premium handset. I wish more companies took a page out of apples' book on this one. I generally try and be as patient as I can with these people and show them that i have done a lot of troubleshooting myself to save time. Often it will result in being transferred to the correct person to talk to a lot quicker.
Ok I should've made it a little clearer, I found that the phone would only be unrooted if I flashed a rooted firmware with custom kernel, and after running triangle away flashing the firmware ON A PC. This is what I meant by going straight into download mode (something about the way mobile Odin installs the firmware still causes the custom binary to appear)
Samsung have however repaired my phone (according to their online job tracker) and my phone is being sent back to me! (After almost 10 days.. probably 14 before I get it back!!!!!!). I will try find out what was wrong although I'm not sure how much Samsung will tell me. I am glad that the unrooting procedure worked without trace and my warranty was honored!
Another update: used desktop Odin to flash my phone back to stock rom after previously using triangle away. Still showing as modified in Settings->About Device->Status.
gonna go into the Orange/EE store tomorrow and complain (when i say complain, i mean about the dodgy wifi issues, not complain about it showing as modified XD). Any suggestions about how to get the modified status back to normal is most appreciated.
Did you flash from stock rooted rom? I had the same issue doing that. It was fine flashing from a rooted rom with a customer kernel
yeah i did, so that could be why. im pretty new to android (been an iOS guy for the last 4 years) so still trying to figure stuff out. doesnt really help that theres not much info out there for the i9305.
What custom kernal/firmware should i use from here? im guessing you mean to flash the rom again but to a completely modded firmware of some type, then back again to the stock one yeah? I've read something about backing up your imei and elf/efi data incase stuff goes wrong but ii havent done this yet, should i do that first?
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Went into the Orange/EE store. was messed about by a member of staff who told me i had to go home and phone orange, then arrange repair via them. Left the store pissed off and went to Burger King. Went back to the store as by this point i'd wound myself up into a frenzy about the whole situation, Demanded to see the manager, demanded HE phone orange for me there and then, and sort this sh** out.
he got a regular call centre guy who said "all the computer is saying as a solution is repair, so thats it" so i demanded we got his boss on the line.
His boss comes on and says its out of his hands and he cant do anything about it, i told him "in that case you're no use, put someone who can" i demanded the orange store manager ask the call centre manager for his boss. He also tried being a smart arse saying it was out of the 14 day return period when i called orange to say i wanted it replaced. I pointed out it was INSIDE the 14 day period i first reported it as an issue to the orange store, and it was tough sh** that they hadnt acted to fix it then.
10 mins of hold later, guy next up the chain comes on, and says hes the person who over-rides the system for returns in odd cases like this, but says he cant override it without HIS bosses permission (you see where im going with this)....
10 minutes of hold later we get HIS boss on the line, who agrees to authorise the replacement.
we get passed back down the chain all the way to the beginning person, who arranges for a new phone to be delivered to my house between 9am - 1pm tomorrow via a courier (on a sunday).
Win.
I get home, my phones been flashed back to stock rom, but is still showing modifed as mentioned before. I do another factory reset on it (i already done one before) and its now showing as "normal", so maybe the un-rooting proceedure takes 2 factory resets? as i already done 1 earlier but it was still showing as modified? Either way, thats that done. My phone is now ready to be sent back to orange tomorrow, fully un-modded as it came, and im due a replacement as I wanted.
Finally Happy, but it wasn't easy.
Just hope my next S3 LTE doesn't suffer from the same issue, as there literally seemed to be nothing that would fix it.
Hope that helps anyone who has this problem with theirs.
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How's this for a joke....
I recieved my phone back yesterday! (Yay?) I read my service report and find that the handset has had the latest firmware installed (the same one I had on it) and it has been tested to Samsung's Quality Control standards. Great?
I turn it on and within 10 seconds of starting it up (getting to the "connect to wifi" screen), I have the exact same issue and phone I sent off 2 weeks ago! They didn't "repair" anything, and now i'm being pushed around to other departments because apparently no one can deal with it directly. I'm now awaiting a reply (in 5-7 Business days) as to what the next step is in this saga, it's just so frustrating that someone didn't even properly test the phone after "repairing" it.
Sure enough my new phone arrived on sunday, the guy only took away the broken phone and charger, so i scored for a free pair of headphones and the box etc heheh.
I would bet my life samsung have got your phone and went "hmmm.... wifi signal shows as full strength", then tried to connect it to a router/tethering phone that theyre sitting next to/holding in their other hand, then said "well it connects, so it works" then sent it back, without even trying it at any sort of distance. I nearly flipped my lid in the Orange/EE store when they tried to tell me "the wifi is working as its working here" so i made the girl leave the note2 she was tethering from on the counter and take 3 steps away from the counter with my phone in her hand (at which point the wifi dropped). Its like you have to demonstrate to them what the issue is.
Also, this is something completely different, but i thought i should bring this up.
Hold your phone in 1 hand by its sides, then flick the centre of the screen with the other hand. Does it feel like its vibrating inside? almost like theres springs inside? Im just asking because the phone that broken was VERY "springy" inside, almost to the point of where you could hear the vibrations inside seconds after flicking it and it felt a bit like it was rattling, whereas the replacement lte (despite being an identical handset) has much less spring to it and feels a lot more solid in comparison, it only vibrates slightly inside when flicked. Tried with my mates regular S3 i9300 which has no spring to it at all, and feels much more solid, wonder if it just with the LTE's. Seems strange to try the same thing on 2 brand new phones and them to have a completely different feel to them though
Ok, so I bought a brand new in box Moto X from an acquaintance. After a month or two it started randomly rebooting, and after a couple of weeks of rebooting once or more per day, it died. Wouldn't power on (not even recovery). I sent it in for repair>got it back>3 days and it died again>sent it in again>got it back>1 day and it died again>sent it in again>got replacement>2-3 months later the new phone is starting the cycle again. Every time I pull it out of my pocket, the lock button doesn't work, and it's locked up on Active Display. I hold the power button and reboot it, only to have it happen again in an hour. I am doing a factory reset now--does anyone have any idea what the problem may be? what i should avoid when setting it up again?
This phone is 100% untampered with. No root, no nothing.
Please help me out. Thanks!
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Ok, so I bought a brand new in box Moto X from an acquaintance. After a month or two it started randomly rebooting, and after a couple of weeks of rebooting once or more per day, it died. Wouldn't power on (not even recovery). I sent it in for repair>got it back>3 days and it died again>sent it in again>got it back>1 day and it died again>sent it in again>got replacement>2-3 months later the new phone is starting the cycle again. Every time I pull it out of my pocket, the lock button doesn't work, and it's locked up on Active Display. I hold the power button and reboot it, only to have it happen again in an hour. I am doing a factory reset now--does anyone have any idea what the problem may be? what i should avoid when setting it up again?
This phone is 100% untampered with. No root, no nothing.
Please help me out. Thanks!
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That sounds like a headache.
When were both phones manufactured? What version of KK were you running? Did you upgrade software OTA, if so what did it upgrade to?
Are you saying you never downloaded any apps? never installed anything on the phone? What services did you use? (apps.. anything, what were they?) Were there any other things you noticed out of the ordinary? What were Motorola's responses the first time they replaced the phone? What are their responses now that you are having the same issues with this replacement device?
Otherwise I'd advise you let us know what modifications (apps installed, anything) you had done and continue to do, that will give a variable context to the issue, at least. Other wise we a have an issue with no variables on the actual phone. The more information you give the higher quality the responses you can receive
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That sounds like a headache.
When were both phones manufactured? What version of KK were you running? Did you upgrade software OTA, if so what did it upgrade to?
Are you saying you never downloaded any apps? never installed anything on the phone? What services did you use? (apps.. anything, what were they?) Were there any other things you noticed out of the ordinary? What were Motorola's responses the first time they replaced the phone? What are their responses now that you are having the same issues with this replacement device?
Otherwise I'd advise you let us know what modifications (apps installed, anything) you had done and continue to do, that will give a variable context to the issue, at least. Other wise we a have an issue with no variables on the actual phone. The more information you give the higher quality the responses you can receive
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1) I don't know when the phones were manufactured. Can you advise me how to tell?
2) I had a number of apps on it including WhatsApp, BBM, Toggl, SwiftKey, The Weather Network, ES File Explorer, BBC, The Economist, Espresso, Google Now Launcher, Dictionary.com, TimmyMe, MyBackup Pro, eBay, Amazon, Kayak and a few others. It's still doing the same thing after a data wipe.
3) The first three times I had trouble they had me send in the phone with no quibbles. The first two times they tried to repair it (the documentation just said "replaced component, and reflashed software"), and after two failed attempts, they simply replaced it. Now they want to start the cycle over again... asking me to send it in for repair.
When they sent me the replacement it arrived with 4.4.4. The previous phone had issues with 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 both. I am still running stock 4.4.4.
Thanks for your help
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1) I don't know when the phones were manufactured. Can you advise me how to tell?
2) I had a number of apps on it including WhatsApp, BBM, Toggl, SwiftKey, The Weather Network, ES File Explorer, BBC, The Economist, Espresso, Google Now Launcher, Dictionary.com, TimmyMe, MyBackup Pro, eBay, Amazon, Kayak and a few others. It's still doing the same thing after a data wipe.
3) The first three times I had trouble they had me send in the phone with no quibbles. The first two times they tried to repair it (the documentation just said "replaced component, and reflashed software"), and after two failed attempts, they simply replaced it. Now they want to start the cycle over again... asking me to send it in for repair.
When they sent me the replacement it arrived with 4.4.4. The previous phone had issues with 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 both. I am still running stock 4.4.4.
Thanks for your help
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Thanks, hopefully your info helps someone help you better or hopefully it can help/spark someone truly seasoned in android/moto x etc to chime in
To check your manufacture date boot into your fastboot menu, check image to verify you're there.
Then choose BP Tools and then once that menu loads choose the option for UPC/Manufacture date read out, check for the date when it appears on the screen, maybe you are on a batch that has specific issues.
I've never heard of this issue, yuk sounds terrible. Goodluck! If you do end up finding answers somewhere else can you please come back here and post the resolution?
When I hit BP Tools it just reboots the phone... I don't know what's wrong???
maybe static electricity?
or do you use any cases?
maybe wrong charger?
Multiple devices, different Android versions, Sounds like an app issue to me.
If it happens frequently, then that is good in a way... You could factory reset and don't install a single app. If it doesn't act up for a couple days ..... Install about 5 apps. Go a couple days.... Install 5 more, etc... Etc. When it starts to act up, you know it's an app you recently installed, so it'll be easier to narrow down.
A logcat could help too. Search on that for how. It would likely show what happened at the time of the reboot /shutdown.
quaxer said:
1) I don't know when the phones were manufactured. Can you advise me how to tell?
2) I had a number of apps on it including WhatsApp, BBM, Toggl, SwiftKey, The Weather Network, ES File Explorer, BBC, The Economist, Espresso, Google Now Launcher, Dictionary.com, TimmyMe, MyBackup Pro, eBay, Amazon, Kayak and a few others. It's still doing the same thing after a data wipe.
3) The first three times I had trouble they had me send in the phone with no quibbles. The first two times they tried to repair it (the documentation just said "replaced component, and reflashed software"), and after two failed attempts, they simply replaced it. Now they want to start the cycle over again... asking me to send it in for repair.
When they sent me the replacement it arrived with 4.4.4. The previous phone had issues with 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 both. I am still running stock 4.4.4.
Thanks for your help
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When I hit BP Tools it just reboots the phone... I don't know what's wrong???
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use the volume +up button (once BP Tools is highlighted) and not the power button to select BP Tools I'm assuming that's what's happening, hmm
I would send it back to Motorola again. If the issues continue, tell them you want it replaced with something else like the 2014 Moto X.
Ok -- so the issues stopped completely over Christmas vacation, but I went back to work this morning (I work in a dusty woodworking plant) with my phone in my pocket, and bang, they were back. Every time I pulled my phone out of my pocket it had powered off, and finally it didn't want to power back on. I called Moto, and this time actually got a competent rep on the line. He blamed the issues on static electricity, and I second his opinion, because the machinery I work with tends to create some static, and the dust in my pocket may exacerbate the problem (?)
Anyway, he recommended that I plug the phone in and hold the power button for 2 minutes to drain the static. Voila! It seems to have worked.
Solved for the time being. Thanks everyone for your input.
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Ok -- so the issues stopped completely over Christmas vacation, but I went back to work this morning (I work in a dusty woodworking plant) with my phone in my pocket, and bang, they were back. Every time I pulled my phone out of my pocket it had powered off, and finally it didn't want to power back on. I called Moto, and this time actually got a competent rep on the line. He blamed the issues on static electricity, and I second his opinion, because the machinery I work with tends to create some static, and the dust in my pocket may exacerbate the problem (?)
Anyway, he recommended that I plug the phone in and hold the power button for 2 minutes to drain the static. Voila! It seems to have worked.
Solved for the time being. Thanks everyone for your input.
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This thread is awesome.
Also, I recommend leaving your phone on your desk/home/car when you work
Or maybe a full-body armor case or something.
Statics & electronics = bad idea. Even if you can drain it and it works, it's still hurting the components inside.
So, it's been a bit, but I just came back to this phone. I never did send it in to Moto, though it seemed to have died completely. It sat in the drawer for a couple of weeks, and now on a whim I plugged it into my computer, and it started up! I had never tried plugging it into a computer, just chargers...
BUT,
In the last 10 minutes it's been sitting here rebooting itself every 2 minutes... I guess I'll try wiping it again (It didn't do the trick last time), but this phone has serious problems.