Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
art_17 said:
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
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Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16 and pixel experience ROM. I have some follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS 16? You directly refereed to official page?
3- Have you tried latest (10th June) build of Linage 10 OS?
3- I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
metelhammer said:
Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
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Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
abhishekarora said:
Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16. I have two follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS? You directly refereed to official page?
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1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
art_17 said:
1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
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Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
abhishekarora said:
Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
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Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
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There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
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Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
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Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
metelhammer said:
There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
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Thanks man !
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
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After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
abhishekarora said:
Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
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Yup...
0. Pick a day where you're absolutely sure you wont need to use your device for a whole day.
1. Unlock bootloader (I unlock my device unofficially cuz I hate waiting period. But I still recommend you to do it the official way).
2. Flash twrp (or any other custom recovery you like)
4. Back up everything via custom recovery. It may take up to 11 gb of storage so make sure you have more than enough free storage in your external sd card. If you dont have enough storage just backup everything except system partition which take a LOT of storage.
5.PRAY TO GOD
5.1. Use lucky charm(s)
5.2. - 5.9. Do everything you think may help with ur luck
6. Wipe Everything
7. Flash rom & gapps(if it isnt included in rom).
9. Reboot.
10. Enjoy... or not.
Note:
- it is what it is. Do it at your own risk.
- if ur fingerprint dont work and nothing happens even tho youve restored your persist back up. Go to thread about Los 16 fingerprind doesnt work created by me, there I gave link to a solution that works for my device.
- If 30-60 minute passes n ur phone hasnt boot then your phone maybe stuck in a bootloop. Go to twrp and reflash or try another rom. For me it usually takes less than 10 minutes to boot.
- if ur phone suddenly dies n you cant boot, fastboot or go to recovery. First, calm down. Take the back of the phone off carefully (you dont want to accidentally tore the fingerprint cable off). Try disconnect your battery from the phone n reconnect it. Then try go to fastboot or recovery.
- if reconnecting the battery dont work use edl mode (just search for edl mode redmi 4x for a guide).
- If edl mode dont work go to phone service. If they cant fix it just buy a new phone.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
abhishekarora said:
Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
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Don't do bro....Just stick on official rom... Otherwise you will.regret yourself later
LonerDarke said:
Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
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Sure...
TWRP unofficial by pranaya 2005 https://mega.nz/file/PhJAhahC#tRILgEtwDor6X_nwt1-O8v9kxcYGJ1jZJHCOrN7WZ7M
which havoc os version you are using on redmi 4 ?
I Am facing lot of problems with custom Rom such as usb not connecting to pc,middle touch not functioning , calls not working . I've done factory reset my device and everything working fine except phone not connecting to pc.
I don't know how i am possibly going to unlock bootloader it it's not going to connect pc.
i've updated pc driver and work through all solution, i think the problem is with miui stock rom 11 update as the same issue is posted on other threads.
I'm afraid I will also need to switch to a Custom ROM sooner or later, although my experience with santoni Custom ROMs was not too good. There was always something broken - be it Deep Sleep, GPS fix or fingerprint sensor.
At the moment I am trying to decide between
Resurrection Remix 8.6.x (Android 10)
Havoc OS 3.8 (Android 10)
AICP 15.0 (Android 10) - although an older version ~1 yr ago did not work too well
LineageOS 16.0 (Android 9)
and don't know what to choose. Stability and battery runtime are most important, I also need some basic customization, but no senseless bulls**t like animated unicorns running over the screen or things like that.
Which of the beforementioned work(s) well?
If someone still reads this...
I've tried RR and Havoc. I liked both and did not find any major bugs during my short tests, but the fact that full device encryption did not work is a big no-go.
Now I'm on LineageOS 16.0 official (with older Android 9) and despite the fact that there could be some more features and customization possibilities I am very satisfied with stability and performance. Encryption worked when formatting userdata with OrangeFox-R11.0_0-Stable-santoni and afterwards using OrangeFox-R10.0_3-Stable-santoni.
Hi,
I know MagiskHide is going away, and I am planning to upgrade to the Pixel 6 Pro in the next 1-2 weeks.
However, my Pixel 4 XL is still rooted on Android 11.
I opened Magisk last night and saw that there was an update and updated to:
Magisk: d7e7df3b (23010)
App: d7e7df3b (23010)
When I did this, Magiskhide and SafetyNet Check were completely removed. i know this will probably be inevitable in the future, but can anyone ptovide me link to the previous Magisk flash and app version, so I can reverse everything?
As of now, I can no longer use Android Pay and many of my previously hidden apps will no longer run.
diesteldorf said:
Hi,
I know MagiskHide is going away, and I am planning to upgrade to the Pixel 6 Pro in the next 1-2 weeks.
However, my Pixel 4 XL is still rooted on Android 11.
I opened Magisk last night and saw that there was an update and updated to:
Magisk: d7e7df3b (23010)
App: d7e7df3b (23010)
When I did this, Magiskhide and SafetyNet Check were completely removed. i know this will probably be inevitable in the future, but can anyone ptovide me link to the previous Magisk flash and app version, so I can reverse everything?
As of now, I can no longer use Android Pay and many of my previously hidden apps will no longer run.
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If you are referring to the latest stable version, 23.0, it's in his Github.
GitHub - topjohnwu/Magisk: The Magic Mask for Android
The Magic Mask for Android. Contribute to topjohnwu/Magisk development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
Thanks.....so I'm planning to revert back to 23.0 and then use 23.0 to repatch the stock boot.img. Hoping that will restore Magiskhide and everything I had before the update.
At this point, I am planning to stick with Android 11 and just want to reverse the upgrade from last night.
Really appreciate your help.
You can try Magisk Alpha (t.me/magiskalpha)
It is a forked version of Magisk by one of its former lead developers. It has option to choose between zygisk and magisk hide. I tested it on Pixel 4 XL and 6 Pro where it was able to pass safetynet checks.
I'm working on a user-ready Pixel Experience Rom on the Xiaomi Mi 11 venus, but i get an error that says that the package is invalid. Some help would be appreciated right there. Thanks in advance!
- kota
kotalol said:
I'm working on a user-ready Pixel Experience Rom on the Xiaomi Mi 11 venus, but i get an error that says that the package is invalid. Some help would be appreciated right there. Thanks in advance!
- kota
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Still working on it, if in some goddamn miracle i become a Pixel Experience Official Dev for tje phone, i will also try making an addon for the camera.
kotalol said:
Still working on it, if in some goddamn miracle i become a Pixel Experience Official Dev for tje phone, i will also try making an addon for the camera.
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That's pretty cool !
If you plan on continuing to develop this Rom you should go on the Telegram group of Mi 11 Dev (just search "Mi 11- AOSP Development #EDLBrickers" heres' the Supergroup ID -1001622324356). You will easily get help.
P.S : There is already someone building Pixel Experience for Android 12 on the group, but he's facing bootloop and fingerprint issues, no alarm and call sound. He will soon release it.
P.S.2: Being "Oficial" don't mean nothing in reality apart of OTA via the updater. You can easily be an unofficial dev.
Thanks for reading, and good luck !
Lunisi said:
That's pretty cool !
If you plan on continuing to develop this Rom you should go on the Telegram group of Mi 11 Dev (just search "Mi 11- AOSP Development #EDLBrickers" heres' the Supergroup ID -1001622324356). You will easily get help.
P.S : There is already someone building Pixel Experience for Android 12 on the group, but he's facing bootloop and fingerprint issues, no alarm and call sound. He will soon release it.
P.S.2: Being "Oficial" don't mean nothing in reality apart of OTA via the updater. You can easily be an unofficial dev.
Thanks for reading, and good luck !
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I'm actually doing this in a GSI Rom, and not gonna lie with just some drivers added do the rom. It's easy to get it done. Just that the maker of Pixel Experience GSI locked the system. :/ vbmeta with disable verity and verification option does nothing either.. Would love to work with the guy that is working on the PE A12 rom! Thanks a lot for the info!
kotalol said:
I'm actually doing this in a GSI Rom, and not gonna lie with just some drivers added do the rom. It's easy to get it done. Just that the maker of Pixel Experience GSI locked the system. :/ vbmeta with disable verity and verification option does nothing either.. Would love to work with the guy that is working on the PE A12 rom! Thanks a lot for the info!
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Actually! Someone made a Pixel Experience Plus Rom that is A11, so maybe using the DelmarFingerprint from this won will get this done!
Hello! I am new here and wanted to port a rom to my 11TPro which has SD888 Chipset and the rom I want is from Oneplus9RT which also has SD888 so I was wondering if porting oxygen OS of this device is possible on the 11TPro and if it is then how?
Please help me
And thanks for reading.
Idk828182 said:
Hello! I am new here and wanted to port a rom to my 11TPro which has SD888 Chipset and the rom I want is from Oneplus9RT which also has SD888 so I was wondering if porting oxygen OS of this device is possible on the 11TPro and if it is then how?
Please help me
And thanks for reading.
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A ROM typically requires a lot of work for it to be compatible with a device. You can't simply grab any ROM and flash it to another device. There are other aspects when it comes to hardware such as the cameras, sensors, components for Wi-Fi/Bluetooth etc.
First before you can make any modifications, you of course, have to unlock the bootloader by using a tool provided by the manufacturer. For Xiaomi, you need to first pair your Xiaomi Account to the device by going into the Developer options in settings and then use their Mi Unlock tool to submit the request. You will have to wait around 7 days in order to be able to unlock it. After that, you now have the option to install a custom OS
Do note that due to the bootloader being unlocked, apps that check the bootloader status such as banking apps and streaming apps may not work anymore. But there are ways to make them work by patching the SafetyNet/Play Integrity API.