Question Should I wait for OnePlus 11? - OnePlus 10 Pro

Hi folks, I've been a Xiaomi user for the past 5 years and I'm looking to change this because lately, all the Chinese variants of the devices lack essential bands needed in Europe. I used to buy Chinese variants, install miui.eu on them and enjoy paying less for them. Now that they've decided not to include Europe bands on them, I decided to come back to OnePlus. My last OnePlus was the 3.
What I'm curious about, is if it will be possible to do the same with OnePlus 11 and change from Chinese colouros to oxigenos and have a locked bootloader, like I have seen it's already possible on this device, and the 10T?
Thanks

Just stay on xiaomi or move pixel.
OnePlus is not giving us free tool to flash or fox our devices.
So most of people that tried that bricked their devices.

Go for xiaomi or wait next pixel

I do not think it's worth it.
Minimal differences compared to 10 pro.

It's kinda like a roll of the dice

OnePlus innovation has halted,
MSM Tool is behind a pay-wall,
OPPO dishing out C&D notices,
TWRP and ROM development essentially dead (largely due to no MSM)
OOS / ColourOS is atrocious
We have only just had a somewhat functional TWRP after a year
I would NEVER get another OnePlus (I have owned the 3T, 5, 6, 7Pro and 10 Pro)
I will likely move to a pixel device after.

[email protected] said:
I do not think it's worth it.
Minimal differences compared to 10 pro.
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Except for the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which I'm after.
My options so far are:
Motorola x40
Nubia z50
Iqoo 11/11pro
Vivo x90 pro+
Redmagic 8
But none of them can run global version of the ROMs.
Xiaomi 13 pro is amazing and I can install the eu version or the ROM, but Chinese variant is missing band 20, so my option would be to wait for OnePlus 11

PlasmaTornado said:
OnePlus innovation has halted,
MSM Tool is behind a pay-wall,
OPPO dishing out C&D notices,
TWRP and ROM development essentially dead (largely due to no MSM)
OOS / ColourOS is atrocious
We have only just had a somewhat functional TWRP after a year
I would NEVER get another OnePlus (I have owned the 3T, 5, 6, 7Pro and 10 Pro)
I will likely move to a pixel device after
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I'm in the exact same boat. I've had OnePlus for many years, started with the 7 Pro a long time ago. But this 10 Pro will be my last. That Cease and Desist topic is definitely the last straw for me, how can a company do such a 180 so quickly? From the best dev option to the worst in one major release.
Wish I would have got the 9 Pro instead when I was buying. But I'll keep the 10 Pro for a another year at least as it is a solid phone deapite the terrible company owning it now. Then I'll switch to Pixel most likely, seems Google has no intention of locking down Android, which is what it should have been all along.

Prant said:
I'm in the exact same boat. I've had OnePlus for many years, started with the 7 Pro a long time ago. But this 10 Pro will be my last. That Cease and Desist topic is definitely the last straw for me, how can a company do such a 180 so quickly? From the best dev option to the worst in one major release.
Wish I would have got the 9 Pro instead when I was buying. But I'll keep the 10 Pro for a another year at least as it is a solid phone deapite the terrible company owning it now. Then I'll switch to Pixel most likely, seems Google has no intention of locking down Android, which is what it should have been all along.
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Exactly how I feel. Before I felt completely safe developing with every other OP device.
I don't even want to compile a TWRP for this device as bricking is now permanent (unless I pay a third party)
It is a terrible thing

Prant said:
how can a company do such a 180 so quickly?
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the 8T was the last phone Oneplus produced. OPPO bought oneplus after that.

g96818 said:
the 8T was the last phone Oneplus produced. OPPO bought oneplus after that.
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OnePlus has always been owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK. BBK successfully fooled the western world into thinking OnePlus was something different to grow their marketshare and now they're too big to give a crap so they removed the illusion of separate companies entirely and brought the OnePlus team directly under the Oppo team.

EtherealRemnant said:
OnePlus has always been owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK. BBK successfully fooled the western world into thinking OnePlus was something different to grow their marketshare and now they're too big to give a crap so they removed the illusion of separate companies entirely and brought the OnePlus team directly under the Oppo team.
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no it wasn't. it was started by two ex-oppo employees with oppo support, but was separately operated. one of the two co-founders left around the oneplus 5 period and the 8t was the last oneplus phone released before Carl Pei (the other co-founder) left. oppo fully absorbed oneplus afterwards

g96818 said:
no it wasn't. it was started by two ex-oppo employees with oppo support, but was separately operated. one of the two co-founders left around the oneplus 5 period and the 8t was the last oneplus phone released before Carl Pei (the other co-founder) left. oppo fully absorbed oneplus afterwards
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The fact that it was run as if it was a separate company doesn't change the fact that it never was actually a separate company.

XDRdaniel said:
Except for the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which I'm after.
My options so far are:
Motorola x40
Nubia z50
Iqoo 11/11pro
Vivo x90 pro+
Redmagic 8
But none of them can run global version of the ROMs.
Xiaomi 13 pro is amazing and I can install the eu version or the ROM, but Chinese variant is missing band 20, so my option would be to wait for OnePlus 11
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you could also wait for ASUS to release their next ROG phone. It will also have SD 8 gen 2 and should be out around april since that last one was released around then with the gen 1.

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The fact that it was run as if it was a separate company doesn't change the fact that it never was actually a separate company.
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The fact that you think oppo owned oneplus from the beginning doesn't change the fact that it was a separate company.

g96818 said:
The fact that you think oppo owned oneplus from the beginning doesn't change the fact that it was a separate company.
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It wasn't a separate company. Oppo has always been the parent company. Google OnePlus ownership and look. Results older than last year say Oppo is a subsidiary of BBK and the parent company of OnePlus.
Don't bother responding, I'm not going to engage in this argument any further about an irrelevant garbage Chinese company.

OnePlus doesn't worth even for 1 cent
F*ck OppoPlus !!
We must strongly boycott this fake OnePlus !!

Am using Android for years now. Started with a Xperia X8. Went then on Nexus 4 and 5. After that I bought my first OnePlus. I had the 3, 5T, 6, 7. Still I'm rocking the 8T. But I made a big big mistake on buying the 10T.. I will try to sell this..... This was the best company. Now it's gone. They vanished the software, they terminated all development for latest series, they gave damn green lines in endless screen models of the 8-9 series after the so called Oxygen OS 12 (ugly buggy MIUI-Color OS 12-CHEAP OEM style Color OS). Instead of turning their ugly OEM software into Oxygen OS, they did the opposite. Honestly buy whatever you want EXCEPT OPPOPLUS.

So weird, everyone seems to hate OnePlus now. Times sure have changed since I had my OnePlus 3 where development was amazing. Sad. I'll be skipping OnePlus base on your recommendations

XDRdaniel said:
So weird, everyone seems to hate OnePlus now. Times sure have changed since I had my OnePlus 3 where development was amazing. Sad. I'll be skipping OnePlus base on your recommendations
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a VERY WISE decision. We were all scammed by OPPOPLUS

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when will xiaomi mi5 pro be released?

The title says it all is there a specific date
in china mi5 pro is releasing on 6th april
And even then it will be limited release.
Thats the same day as the Huawei P9. Must be tactical.
I'm not sure if I like or think the Xiaomi tactic is of any good. Recently, I've read numerous articles about disappointing sales for their cellphones., and I can understand that. Lets take Redmi Note 3 as an example. Great phone and great value for money. They release it, and just a few weeks after they release the Pro version for more or less the same price, but now with superior CPU and expansion slot. As far as I know the Pro version wasn't communicated prior to the release of the standard version. Releasing the Mi5 in small chunks beginning at the entry version in one color doesn't add up to me. Beginning at the flagship would in my opining boost more hype around the phone and would probably convince more people to grab the flagship rather than the entry.
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/03/2...rease-xiaomi-mi-5s-production-capacity-april/
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/03/2...trength-3d-ceramic-body-extreme-scratch-test/
I guess Xiaomi Mi5 Pro will be sold out in 30 seconds
I thought Oneplus were bad for trying to get a phone but these lot are worse.

May giving Huawei a chance. Mind consider buying Mate 10 pro.

After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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If you are in the states don't buy the c567 model go for the international one. IS models are not receiving updates as frequently as European model
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The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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The ROMS for the Mate 10 pro aren't perfect. If you want to run AOSP or something closer to it like near stock android, the one plus 5T is the stable option. If you are okay with the EMUI then the Mate 10 pro has better hardware IMO. If you like to tinker with less than perfect ROMS, then I'd go with the Mate 10 Pro but I'm sure the one plus 5T has more ROM development.
That's my two cents.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
The Restless Soul said:
Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
javierty said:
hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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Unlock. Downgrade is free IF possible. For example:
On BLA-L29C432B142 you can use DC. On B145 it doesn't work but can be downgraded using service firmware. B146 or higher can not be downgraded past B146. Build is not the same on every cust, so if you are on C636 the build where DC works is different. But generally it's May patch firmware.
Paid expensive unlock is done by FH and ministryofsolutions. If you have rebranded using FH before you can not use their service (FH Rebrand changes your imei in fastboot).
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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My phone has 3 issues with EMUI 5 updates (when it launched for the first time). I made a post about it on my account. I just want a long run phone. Do you think this is worth the money or 5T is better?
Well? Should i waste my time with Huawei again or move on with Oneplus/ google pixel 1?
Actually the Mate 10 pro is an excellent device.. But considering the possibilities of an one plus 5 or 6, I'd not go with Huawei anymore.
Same. Mate 10 pro has so many great features but it is not a long run device. I can see myself changing it in 2 years after Huawei will kill my phone like their attempt with my P9 lite. Oneplus 5T is a great deal for me but the camera is not as impressive like on Mate 10 pro and only has 64gb. The fast charging is pretty neat on 5T, but the long lasting battery on Mate 10 pro is very nice for me too.
Idk which to pick. I can go for 5T for the long run (which may keep me more than 4 years due to development), but we will see what will happen during christmas. Either way, i have the google pixel pinned on my shopping list. If Oneplus 5T 128gb gets cheaper, then i will go for 5T.
Also Mate 10 pro doesn't have the bootloader unlocked, thus the phone aging from outdated software.
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
The Restless Soul said:
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
ghostofcain said:
Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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I could had gone for oneplus 5T but i don't want to go change my rom just when i purchase it. Huawei killed my nerves with the warranty. So you got your mate 10 pro too?
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
derausgewanderte said:
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy. Again, i can buy it but i don't want to change the software just when it was fresh bought.
Mate 10 pro has many features and great design. Also the pc mode is very very cool and it does not need a dock. Also has always on display, which Oneplus 5T has only by rooting it (unless Oneplus implements it). But, as we know, Huawei has terrible software support and warranty as well (warranty being my case).
In my opinion, i think Mate 10 pro is a better value for the simple fact that has water resistance, pixel-like camera, 4k battery and other hidden features, but i have to send my cousin to buy it so HUAWEI won't add anything sketchy in it :laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
I want to hear your opinions about these 2 devices. I want to buy a phone for the long run. This is my opinion. Sorry that the post feels weird, but i am always skeptical of buying new phones, especially "flagships"
The Restless Soul said:
The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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So what should i buy between those 2 devices?

What to pick as my next phone? Mi9 or Oneplus 6T

Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
catalindobre said:
Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
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Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
Battery life is really good imo.. check the sot thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/review/screen-time-t3902207
While about development, dude 6t has been out for months and months already lol
SirTAVARES said:
if you prefer a 2018 to a 2019 phone...
i came from a op6t and i'm pretty happy with my choice
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Same here...I came from OP6 which had almost the same hardware as op6t (same chipset and camera, etc) . All in all, I prefer the mi9 in regards to hardware and features. But I much preferred the OP in regards to its android software.
-I'm getting about the same battery life out of the mi9.
-camera is much better in good light, but not as good in realy dark environments. (gcam is already doing a realy good job for me though, so early on. OP didn't have camera2api support either)
-Speed, I don't think you can realy feel a difference between the 2.
-amoled screen seems a bit better to me
-stock os is much better, and community support was realy good on op. Let's see about mi9, a few months after release ?
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
ahmadshuib said:
Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
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I would add something on this. Development is still pretty new, which means it's kinda hard to do tech stuffs. I agree that stock MIUI has a horrible battery life in Mi 9. I recently switched to xiaomi.eu and battery life has significantly increase. I would say about 1.5-2x better than stock MIUI.
I was on OP6. The camera got broken and I got my money back, because the seller couldn't repair it. I was in almost same position as you and had an rooted A1 as backup phone. I bought the mi9 because op6t is almost the same compared to OP6. If you have time go for OP7. I hadn't time and wanted to try again with a Xiaomi that's why I went for mi9.
Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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I'm at the exact same point waiting for op7 since Xiaomi miui puts me off since I don't want to instantly unlock new phone and start maintaining os by myself. But if I had to I'll put pixel experience in it gcam and I think I'll be good device for a few years to come not really picky about camera and all since I'm still using my op2.
Could you guys compare the battery life between mi9 and op6t? Because this is my biggest concern to buy a new phone.
Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
catalindobre said:
Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
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The OP6 and 6T were a bit more expensive than the Mi 8 at launch, forget how much but maybe around $75 (I seem to remember it being more than $50, but not as much as $100). So I'm expecting the OP7 to be a bit more than the Mi 9.
However, and this is my own personal speculating so could be completely wrong, I'm wondering, with the fact that they'll be releasing a pro version too, if they'll lower both the specs and price slightly of the standard OP7 and bring it in at the same price as the Mi 9.
I've had both. The 6T had better software and better battery but the camera on the mi9 is quite a bit better. Depends on your order of importance but I prefer the mi9 over the 6T
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
4Freedom said:
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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MOBZILLA:good: (From Italy)
the only thing holding me back to buy a Mi9 is that there is no custom rom support yet. Simply cant stand MemeUI
perhaps wait for Op7?
Just read this
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-eu-xiaomi-mi-9-fixes-everything-wrong-with-miui/
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
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Do you guys think Mi 9 will be a better option over Pixel 3XL now? The only thing that is swaying me to that is the stock experience and the camera. Can't think of OP devices as my country doesn't really offer it as an option unless i buy from overseas without warranty. Trying to upgrade from a Mi Mix 2. I see that the development for this phone is not that strong yet (hopefully it'll pick up as time goes by). Any thoughts?
can't really decide.

What will your next phone be ?

Hello guys ,
So i was currently thinking of upgrading my oneplus 3
But i couldn't settle on a certain phone , the only 2 phones in my mind would be the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung galaxy s10 plus since both cost the same where i live , let me know what you think guys
I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!
The s10's price is diving so you may be able to pick up a bargain. Depends on your criteria.
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Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.
laz3r69 said:
I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!
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Pixel devices are great no doubght but they are really expensive at the same time
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Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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The S10 plus is a really great phone but i keep getting pulled away due to the below points
1. Touch wiz and the history of updates
2. Developer community always better on one plus devices
3. The notchless screen on the oneplus 7 pro makes it look much appealing the s10 plus screen .
affection788 said:
Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.
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Congrats , let us know what you think when you receive it
I get your point. Samsung is refining oneui to bring it closer to stock android and is increasing update supports for it's flagships, according to latest reports and that's good enough for me.
Oneplus phones surely has more community support, but nowadays phones with stock roms has got so much better that the idea of installing custom roms is becoming less tempting.
The 7 Pro may look more appealing because of it's all screen design, but I still have some reservations about the pop up camera with regards to how long it will remain functional as a moving part.
I'm not trying to convince you as to why the s10 plus is a better phone then the 7 Pro because both phones are great in their own way, I'm just sharing my personal reason why I'm going to get the s10 plus as my next phone.
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Personally I'm keeping my op3 as long as it's working and not struggling with doing anything. However of it were to die tomorrow I'd be looking at he op7 pro, the Xiaomi black shark 2, or the oppo Reno 10x zoom
Take a look at Xiaomi Mi 9
Zenfone 6 since it will officially receive lineage os. I don't like the size of the phone and just 18W charging but it has the greatest battery life.
If the s10e becomes cheaper and receives lineage os, I'll gladly opt for it.
Wait for the Pixel 4
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Wait for the Pixel 4
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The pixel devices are always highly priced
I'm looking for a mate 20 pro, I'm waiting for huawei/trump fight to end (I don't want to buy a phone that is not going to have android Q).
Also I'm a little bit annoyed to not be able to unlock bootloader.
But mate 20 pro is what I want, great camera and battery
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You have the budget for the S10, so I don't see why you can't buy the Pixel
Right now in India, the smaller pixel 3 is priced lower than the s10. I don't know how much it is in your country.
Pretty sure the smaller pixel 4 variant will be around the same price range.
I sure as hell won't buy a device with a notch and no headphone jack. I am at minority here but those are my requirements for now.
Redmi K20 Pro and Zenfone 6Z are top contenders for my money (I don't want to go back to IPS LCD but might have to). OnePlus phones are naturally out because they decided to "follow trend" and removed headphone jack. OP3 is working fine for my usage and i don't need the best camera, an average camera will do for me so no appeal of Pixel 4 to me at all. So for now, yeah, not many options, K20 pro is choice 1, zenfone 6z being 2nd.
I'm thinking about OP6 as it's the last OP with headphone Jack and notification LED. I know the notch isn't great but for me, small notch + OLED > LCD.
OP7, not the pro version because I definitely do not want a phone with moving parts. No Samsung, I have nothing with the brand...
But as others said before, will keep using my OP3T as long as possible. Fast, two days of battery life, great camera and straight forward; still did not find a good reason for making a switch. ..
I'd buy an iPhone, currently using oneplus 3, lasted for 2years. Still snappy with good battery backup.

Help I'm a noob with a question about the K20 Pro running Android. UK - Vodaphone

Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
domyadig said:
Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
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It is Android, just not as you know it.
At the moment the phone hasn't been released globally, so there's very little custom ROM development yet. It'll be released in India next week, but globally in a could of months, maybe. So it'll be a while yet before there's some progress with other ROMs. GSI ROMs work OK for the most part, and Phhuson's AOSP GSI will, obviously give you the purest Android. Though there are still a few issues with them, which for some, myself included, can be lived with, whilst others they will be deal breakers. There are guides for flashing ROMs on this phone. Have a look in the K20 Pro threads here.
The phone will work OK, for the most part in the UK. It lacks band 20. So EE will give the best coverage and O2 the worst. It 'should' be OK on Vodafone and Three with maybe the occasional patch that still relies on band 20 for compete coverage. EE would give you compete coverage and O2 probably wouldn't work outside of major towns and cities.
There's the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, though the Pro does have a large jump in price. Close to stock Android out of the box and OnePlus devices have the biggest custom ROM scene.
There's the Mi 9, which has a global version and some movement starting to happen on the custom ROMs.
Or there's the Asus ZenFone 6, which comes with a fairly stock android out of the box. Asus have tentatively reached out to the developer community and provided a small number of xda devs with a free phone, so there should be more development than you'd normally see on an Asus phone.
Robbo.5000 said:
It is Android, just not as you know it.
At the moment the phone hasn't been released globally, so there's very little custom ROM development yet. It'll be released in India next week, but globally in a could of months, maybe. So it'll be a while yet before there's some progress with other ROMs. GSI ROMs work OK for the most part, and Phhuson's AOSP GSI will, obviously give you the purest Android. Though there are still a few issues with them, which for some, myself included, can be lived with, whilst others they will be deal breakers. There are guides for flashing ROMs on this phone. Have a look in the K20 Pro threads here.
The phone will work OK, for the most part in the UK. It lacks band 20. So EE will give the best coverage and O2 the worst. It 'should' be OK on Vodafone and Three with maybe the occasional patch that still relies on band 20 for compete coverage. EE would give you compete coverage and O2 probably wouldn't work outside of major towns and cities.
There's the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, though the Pro does have a large jump in price. Close to stock Android out of the box and OnePlus devices have the biggest custom ROM scene.
There's the Mi 9, which has a global version and some movement starting to happen on the custom ROMs.
Or there's the Asus ZenFone 6, which comes with a fairly stock android out of the box. Asus have tentatively reached out to the developer community and provided a small number of xda devs with a free phone, so there should be more development than you'd normally see on an Asus phone.
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thanks for your reply,
the porblem is i have a s7 edge and can't really see why to spend £400+ plus on a phone that doesn't even do 1440p
it needs to have 1440p! lol
domyadig said:
thanks for your reply,
the porblem is i have a s7 edge and can't really see why to spend £400+ plus on a phone that doesn't even do 1440p
it needs to have 1440p! lol
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Because it will now cost you almost double that amount to get a new phone with 1440 display.
Robbo.5000 said:
Because it will now cost you almost double that amount to get a new phone with 1440 display.
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Is there any reason for this? I guess i should wait on a little while then.
domyadig said:
Is there any reason for this? I guess i should wait on a little while then.
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Yes. Any flagship phone with a QHD display will be marketed as a premium flagship and come with a premium price, look at the prices of the S10, the OP 7 Pro and the new Xperia phones. If you want a cheaper phone with QHD, then it will be a mid range SoC.
already have S8 Plus, running it as FHD+ to save the battery and can't feel or see the difference
I guess FHD+ is enough and battery friendly
domyadig said:
Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
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If I were you right now with a 3 year old phone like you have there would be only one choice and that's the OnePlus 7 pro.definetly worth the few hundred extra for what your getting. Oxygen OS is hands down best software with Best QHD display you can get,if you dont mind full HD go with the normal 7 at a good price.
The redmi k20 pro will work fine but annoying Chinese software,maybe wait till September/October for a Mi 9T pro or November for a OnePlus 7T with possible standard version with a design similar to the k20.
Look at Xiaomi.eu rom for k20 pro if your going with that. It takes away all the bloat of the Chinese version with weekly updates based on Chinese official

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