Hi.
LineageOS 20 is now officially released, but I can't find it for Sony Xperia XZ1c.
Does anyone know where it can be downloaded?
Thanks
There isn't official Los 20 for the XZ1c, but you have the unofficial version by derfelot. It works the same as the official versions for other devices, the only differences being the lack of OTA updates and the time between updates varies. I think we're getting an update to the Los20 rom soon, since I see commits submitted in github.
Hi,
I've installed the previous unofficial version on my XZ1c, and am looking forward to the mentionned unofficial LOS20 update before I install it (I didn't see it was already available at the time I installed 19 in december). I have a question, not too silly I hope :
I've read on LineageOS website that if some developers have a running and reliable LOS version developed for a device that is not yet officially supported, they can submit their version so that then the version becomes "official" and one can get it from LOS website. Is it planned with this unofficial LOS version ? why / why not ?
Thanks
I think It's not official because the devs don't want to involve/don't have the time to become official maintainers, instead releasing updates less frequently. Basically It's a responsibility. That's what I think and personally I'm fine with the unofficial builds, these devs do a lot already.
So in theory, If someone has the skills/time to maintain this device officially, It could become one without an issue.
Let me ask another question (since this is new post):
Which of available ROMs suits You all best and why?
I Was on Havoc 4, then 5, Lineage 17, now I'm back to Havoc 3.11 but this one gets random freezes and battery heats up. Only issue I have with new releases is lack of Android Auto support.
maarek7 said:
Let me ask another question (since this is new post):
Which of available ROMs suits You all best and why?
I Was on Havoc 4, then 5, Lineage 17, now I'm back to Havoc 3.11 but this one gets random freezes and battery heats up. Only issue I have with new releases is lack of Android Auto support.
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Hi, I don't have an answer to your question since so far I've tested only lineage 19. But I'd like to ask you why you chose to go back to Havoc 3.11 even though it heats and freezes ? (Why not a more recent ?)
And what are the differences between Havoc and LOS in everyday use, what did you personnally notice / prefer ?
Arcline said:
I think It's not official because the devs don't want to involve/don't have the time to become official maintainers, instead releasing updates less frequently. Basically It's a responsibility. That's what I think and personally I'm fine with the unofficial builds, these devs do a lot already.
So in theory, If someone has the skills/time to maintain this device officially, It could become one without an issue.
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Ok, indeed it would add more work/responsibility to the developpers.
eve1374 said:
Hi, I don't have an answer to your question since so far I've tested only lineage 19. But I'd like to ask you why you chose to go back to Havoc 3.11 even though it heats and freezes ? (Why not a more recent ?)
And what are the differences between Havoc and LOS in everyday use, what did you personnally notice / prefer ?
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Hi,
I wanted to try and test Android Auto mostly to be honest.
As per differences - Havoc gives You way more options to customize whole phone (appearance), have more features (gestures, status bar, dock etc., you might even forget half of the settings after finishing configuring it), Lineage on the other hand I believe consumes less battery, appears to be quicker, is neat.
But I've tried either Havoc and Lineage on Android 12 and both works smooth. Testing Lineage 20 currently and can't say any bad word. But I'm kind of lucky with custom ROMs, never had any major issues, all worked fine always
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Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10, i would like to pass to 11, but actually my A2 is my daily driver, so i am a little scared .
In your opinion, which is the most stable rom based on 11 have you tried?
Thank you all in advance.
HTCDevil said:
Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10, i would like to pass to 11, but actually my A2 is my daily driver, so i am a little scared .
In your opinion, which is the most stable rom based on 11 have you tried?
Thank you all in advance.
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If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
Phil_Smith said:
If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
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Thank you for your answer, clear
Phil_Smith said:
If you need a stable daily driver, I can only advise you to stay on Android 10 until 11 gets out of alpha phase.
Slowly features will come to 11, of which you for now will probably miss one or another in comparison to your Android 10 ROM also.
Switching to a ROM in such an early stage isn't something I would generally advise against.
If you are willing to accept bugs and can live with a minimum of features, installing and reporting about alpha / beta builds will immensely help development.
But you said you need a stable daily driver, so, yey.
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So, custom rom with Android 11 aren't stable?
John974 said:
So, custom rom with Android 11 aren't stable?
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Well, in the first phase of a new android release all ROMs
- Are basically the same (pure aosp with different branding)
- Have no additional features to pure aosp
- Will have many issues to sort out in general and for the respective device (like bugs, fast draining, random reboots, inconsistencies across versions).
- Might conflict or not be fully compatible with third party software (gapps, Magisk, any random app).
Any of these points might be the case still, so I wouldn't advise anyone expecting a stable daily driver to use android 11 for now.
None of these points has to apply though, as time for development passes.
If you want to urgently try out an 11 ROM and you don't heavily depend on your phone's functionality, why not do it? I also did it (and moved back to 10).
The question anyone should ask him- or herself though is: Which advantages do you expect from it?
That is, other than a higher version number...
Phil_Smith said:
Well, in the first phase of a new android release all ROMs
- Are basically the same (pure aosp with different branding)
- Have no additional features to pure aosp
- Will have many issues to sort out in general and for the respective device (like bugs, fast draining, random reboots, inconsistencies across versions).
- Might conflict or not be fully compatible with third party software (gapps, Magisk, any random app).
Any of these points might be the case still, so I wouldn't advise anyone expecting a stable daily driver to use android 11 for now.
None of these points has to apply though, as time for development passes.
If you want to urgently try out an 11 ROM and you don't heavily depend on your phone's functionality, why not do it? I also did it (and moved back to 10).
The question anyone should ask him- or herself though is: Which advantages do you expect from it?
That is, other than a higher version number...
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Thank you for all those informations. I was hoping Android 11 would bring more functionality, stability and smoothness, but it seems to me rather the opposite. There is also no more security patch for Android 10 looks like. Everyone is working on Android 11.
John974 said:
Thank you for all those informations. I was hoping Android 11 would bring more functionality, stability and smoothness, but it seems to me rather the opposite.
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What I'm saying isn't android 11 specific, but counts for every instance in which a new android release comes out.
It has been the same with android 6 and 7, then with 7 and 8 and so on.
Android 11 might bring functionality, stability and smoothness. But it is too early in development to expect all of this just yet, is all I'm saying.
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What I'm saying isn't android 11 specific, but counts for every instance in which a new android release comes out.
It has been the same with android 6 and 7, then with 7 and 8 and so on.
Android 11 might bring functionality, stability and smoothness. But it is too early in development to expect all of this just yet, is all I'm saying.
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Yes you're right. Thanks for your opinion.
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Hi all,
i am on Pixel Extended, based on Android 10.
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AFAIK Pixel Extended is based on Android 11 and Pixel Experience is based on Android 10.
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AFAIK Pixel Extended is based on Android 11 and Pixel Experience is based on Android 10.
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Pixel Extended is now based on Android 11 (from a month), but i have old version based on 10. You should inform. See screenshot :good:
HTCDevil said:
Pixel Extended is now based on Android 11 (from a month), but i have old version based on 10. You should inform. See screenshot :good:
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kindly share the link of this ROM? I will try it also in my spare time. thanks!
edit: Found the link in sourceforge. Thanks!
Just a question for the future. Are there custom roms like Lineage OS coming for Mi 11 Ultra?
Probably just a matter of time....
It's available for most of the earlier devices already: https://www.cyanogenmods.org/lineageos-18-mi-10-pro/
I don't think it will show up anytime soon...
When I got MiNote10, it was one of few phones with new 108MP camera sensor, developers had bad time trying to find drivers, or do anything to be able to use camera, as Xiaomi release only part of source code for this phone. As for now, there is no official LOS for MiNote10, just UNOFFICIAL, and the phone was released around November 2019 ?
MI11 Ultra also have new camera sensor GN2, display on the back, new chipset, I wish to see LOS or other custom ROM, but I know how hard is to build custom ROM for new hardware if you don't have drivers/source code.. Only hope in Xiaomi if they release complete source code needed to build ROM.
We'll have to wait for the popularity of this phone to go up first. Might take a while. But with miui12.5 being the crap fest that it is right now... I hope we don't have to wait too long for an aosp based ROM to come out
I would voluteer for testing... anything is better than this miui crap. So, anyone, please DM me, if you need a tester.
And put TWRP on the list. I might suffer from a good old fashioned paranoia, but kind if don't trust the current distributions of TWRP for the MI11U.
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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When Xiaomi stops updating an android version, developers must also follow to continue the development of their rom.
Nothing prevents you from staying in A12, security will be and will remain on the date of the last rom in A12.
Xiaomi for some time has preferred to sell phones rather than provide bug-free roms before moving on to another newer android version.
For example, the beta stables are updated via OTA but it is just indicated Stable on the phone, moreover for some phones the beta stables are just renamed stable later when it is exactly the same rom without bug fixes.
For me the A12 Aosp roms are crude and ugly only reason that makes me stay on MIUI but I am from the old school.
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I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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The right answer for this is: depends on the resources that community have to preserve the older build. I'm talking about people and hardware. If there's none, they have to move forward to newer one and ditch the older. Why Lineage could support several versions android because they have resources to do so. Most don't have that luxury.
Yes, most custom Android 12 ROMs should be abandoned in the next 2-3 months. Some devs may keep updating 12 if they aren't confident in 13, but that's a bit rare. If you are on a stable Android ROM, stick with that for a year or so even if it means no updates. I plan to upgrade to Android 12 now, have been on Android 11, and when Android 14 comes out, I'll upgrade to Android 13. You might be able to do an in-place upgrade to Android 13 rather than clean installing, if you are lucky.
gasperoni said:
I got the RM Note 10 Pro when it was brandnew and just wanted a stable custom rom. I installed and used Arrow OS with Android 11 and was satisfied with it. But then the team and apparently all the other teams stopped supporting and updating those roms and moved on to Android 12 projects. So like 2 month ago I moved on to Lineage 12.1 so I could have a rom that keeps getting updates and support. I don't really like changing roms and transferring everything to the phone that I had before and having to figure out certain things that work differently on the new versions. Now I am seeing Android 13 roms popping out in the forums and I am concerned that thosed based on Android 12 will also stop getting updates and support and force me to change to a Rom with 13. Will the 12 roms keep getting updates at least for a while longer? I would prefer staying on 12.1 for a while
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I am on the same boat. Was running LOS 18.1 happily on Oneplus. Then purchased Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro and sh*t started. No official Lineage so started research. Found Arrow to be close. Official and vanilla.
The A11 development was already gone so went with A12 as a future proof option (as I thought). They killed it quick and went 12L. I flashed A12L but after a short while they quit that and went A13. I did not even started to think about swap and they are at A13.1 that I read have bugs.
I wish that development power went in the same direction but no, there are tons of custom ROMs for 'sweet' but I couldn't find stable and polished one. Started to regret that I got a device that is not supported by LOS.
When I got my Note 10 pro last year, I also wanted a device with LineageOS support. But this was the best hardware I could find inexpensively that seemed like it had a lot of development interest, so it's what I went with.
I tried some custom ROMs when I first got it, but was disappointed and went with xiaomi.eu for a long time instead. It's only recently that LineageOS has become available, though it's not official.
HI all, what do y'all think is the most stable and least problematic among all the custom ROMs for SPES? I'd like to know 'coz I'm tired of backing up my files and switching to other ROMs when there's something wrong with my current ROM, thanks!
In my case it is Evolution X (both Android 12 and Android 13) for a simple reason:
It is one of the few ROMs that has solved a bug with the Goodix fingerprint readers, which is that it does not let the screen turn off correctly, since it takes the FP as a button. Well, I know that Pixel Experience also solved it but I had a bad experience with that ROM.
Used Pixel Experience for 2 months. It's smooth
Been using Evolution X for a week, my only complaints are some bugs like fingerprint not working until I unlock the phone on some instances
Planning to move to CrDroid sometime next week tho, idk I'd recommend use them all and decide what you should use
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In my case it is Evolution X (both Android 12 and Android 13) for a simple reason:
It is one of the few ROMs that has solved a bug with the Goodix fingerprint readers, which is that it does not let the screen turn off correctly, since it takes the FP as a button. Well, I know that Pixel Experience also solved it but I had a bad experience with that ROM.
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But maintainer said this is the october build will be last due to him preparing for university
so no more evo x for this phone
mxdxl said:
HI all, what do y'all think is the most stable and least problematic among all the custom ROMs for SPES? I'd like to know 'coz I'm tired of backing up my files and switching to other ROMs when there's something wrong with my current ROM, thanks!
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Well, then back to official MIUI I suggest. Nobody can assess what "something wrong" means to you. Rom development is an ongoing process, bugs happen. For some a (slightly) lower sot is "wrong" for others the gaming performance is "wrong". I find this kind of questions difficult since more people want just ready to use roms without the more or less hassle that may come with software in development from and for the community and developed by learning hobby developers, enthusiasts or semi professionals or as often seen tech students. This is not how this all here works. I'm using pa sapphire beta for weeks now, which definitely has its pros and cons (for example). But I'm cool with it since it's stable in case of random reboots and its overall performance (nearly no sudden performance drops in general usage). Where for others the small hiccups it has are unacceptable I'm clearly happy with it (until another interesting rom or update comes up ). Long story short, it depends on what "something wrong" means individually since there are several stable and 'well performing' projects out there. Cheers
Till now the most stable rom is undoubtedly crDroid 8.8 or 8.9 Android 12... You should give a try
loserion said:
Till now the most stable rom is undoubtedly crDroid 8.8 or 8.9 Android 12... You should give a try
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I actually was on cdDroid since 8.7 but then 8.9 has the goodix bug, which made the phone incredibly annoying to use, so I tried Evolution X on Android 13 and its stable, for now, but I'm probably gonna get back to crDroid when the goodix bug will be fixed.
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But maintainer said this is the october build will be last due to him preparing for university
so no more evo x for this phone
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Too bad,
I'm using crDroid 8.9 (Android 12) right now and I would say it's far the most stable ROM i have used on this phone
I tried all of them from XDA and out of XDA, from the lot of available ROMs, the simpler, less customizable seems to run smoother than all the rest, PixelOS v13 takes the credit. I personally prefer something more customizable, and the better for that is AncientOS-Shield, of course, it could have its cons, as the battery consumption within other things, so, finally, you'll find that you should give it a try in your own, the experience from others also can help you, to decide, not to use it, but to try it (or not)
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I tried all of them from XDA and out of XDA, from the lot of available ROMs, the simpler, less customizable seems to run smoother than all the rest, PixelOS v13 takes the credit. I personally prefer something more customizable, and the better for that is AncientOS-Shield, of course, it could have its cons, as the battery consumption within other things, so, finally, you'll find that you should give it a try in your own, the experience from others also can help you, to decide, not to use it, but to try it (or not)
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Thank you for this information, Subway.
Unfortunately, I'm struggling to search and find either of the ROMs you mention specifically for spes or spesn, which is a pity because I was hoping to take a look at PixelOS.
Would you be able to help with a link please?
EDIT: I found PixelOS, but it is unofficial and from July 22
Download PixelOS Custom ROM | Android 12.1 For Redmi Note 11(Spes)
This is a custom ROM update for Redmi Note 11. Pixel OS. It runs on Custom Android 12.1 operating system. The latest version of Android is currently PixelOS is an AOSP based ROM. Pixel Os embeds all the features of ... Read more
pixelroms.com
freakoutski said:
Thank you for this information, Subway.
Unfortunately, I'm struggling to search and find either of the ROMs you mention specifically for spes or spesn, which is a pity because I was hoping to take a look at PixelOS.
Would you be able to help with a link please?
EDIT: I found PixelOS, but it is unofficial and from July 22
Download PixelOS Custom ROM | Android 12.1 For Redmi Note 11(Spes)
This is a custom ROM update for Redmi Note 11. Pixel OS. It runs on Custom Android 12.1 operating system. The latest version of Android is currently PixelOS is an AOSP based ROM. Pixel Os embeds all the features of ... Read more
pixelroms.com
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The sites where Usually I take a look are: SourceForge, AFH and PlingOS (it stores in SF anyway).
Here is: https://sourceforge.net/projects/spes-roms/files/PixelOS/
Plus, these are the ones, I didn't try it yet, from the "Pixel-ish" line https://download.pixelexperience.org/spes
For Me PPUI 4.8. Most Stable & Simple.
Hi everyone,
I'm using LineageOS+microG on my Zenfone 8 since 6 months, but I'm not fully satisfied.
Indeed, I regularly encounter some issues like:
Capricious fingerprint sensor.
Various graphic bugs (when opening the notification bar, or the last applications menu).
The phone asks for the PIN code, whereas it is already unlocked.
Sometime I can't control it anymore, there are invisible click everywhere in the screen... Scarce but very annoying.
I come from a Lineage 18 on a Oneplus, and it had been working perfectly. So maybe it's just due to Lineage 19?
Moreover, the LineageOS+microG project seems not to offer weekly updates - for instance, the last LineageOS version date from 2022-11-19 and the last LineageOS+microG from 2022-10-23.
So I have two questions:
Are these issues normal, or related to my phone? If yes, what can I do?
I've seen that there is another ROM for Zenfone 8: Omnirom. I don't know it well, can I expect some improvements if I install it instead of LOS?
Thank in advance for your feedbacks.
lama02 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm using LineageOS+microG on my Zenfone 8 since 6 months, but I'm not fully satisfied.
Indeed, I regularly encounter some issues like:
Capricious fingerprint sensor.
Various graphic bugs (when opening the notification bar, or the last applications menu).
The phone asks for the PIN code, whereas it is already unlocked.
Sometime I can't control it anymore, there are invisible click everywhere in the screen... Scarce but very annoying.
I come from a Lineage 18 on a Oneplus, and it had been working perfectly. So maybe it's just due to Lineage 19?
Moreover, the LineageOS+microG project seems not to offer weekly updates - for instance, the last LineageOS version date from 2022-11-19 and the last LineageOS+microG from 2022-10-23.
So I have two questions:
Are these issues normal, or related to my phone? If yes, what can I do?
I've seen that there is another ROM for Zenfone 8: Omnirom. I don't know it well, can I expect some improvements if I install it instead of LOS?
Thank in advance for your feedbacks.
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I'm using OmniROM with MicroG on my Asus Zenfone 8 since I bought the phone several month ago without problems. Everything I need works -- IMHO it's a perfect Android for the Zenfone 8 .
And OmniROM supports signature spoofing so the patched Playstore works.
I don't think that weekly updates are necessary for a phone OS (AFAIK google releases Android patches only once a month) but if you need them : There is a new image for OmniROM created every week.
And you can simply copy the repositories for OmniROM to your local workstation and create your own image of the OS as often as you like (after resyncing the repos)
For more details regarding creating your own OmniROM image see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-compile-the-omnirom-13-for-the-android-zenfone-8.4518733/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...h-a-patched-playstore-from-nanodroid.4456421/
regards
Bernd
bnsmb said:
I'm using OmniROM with MicroG on my Asus Zenfone 8 since I bought the phone several month ago without problems. Everything I need works -- IMHO it's a perfect Android for the Zenfone 8 .
And OmniROM supports signature spoofing so the patched Playstore works.
I don't think that weekly updates are necessary for a phone OS (AFAIK google releases Android patches only once a month) but if you need them : There is a new image for OmniROM created every week.
And you can simply copy the repositories for OmniROM to your local workstation and create your own image of the OS as often as you like (after resyncing the repos)
For more details regarding creating your own OmniROM image see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-compile-the-omnirom-13-for-the-android-zenfone-8.4518733/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...h-a-patched-playstore-from-nanodroid.4456421/
regards
Bernd
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Hi bnsmb,
Thanks for your review about Omnirom, it looks interesting.
As everything works well for you, it would mean that whether my phone has an issue, whether LOS contains more bugs than Omnirom... but I'm surprised about that. I thought LOS would be stable too.
I'm agree with you about the updates, I don't need once a week, except when the firmware looks unstable.