I've been plagued by fingerprint issues just like everyone else. But I've also been running an experiment. Every time my fingerprint won't unlock the phone I wash my hands. AND IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE TIME!! The sensor is EXTREMELY sensitive!! If you have even one speck of dust it could fail to unlock.
I promise you.... try it!! It will work every single time!!
I mean really, thanks Google!!! I probably should wash my hands more if they're dirty enough to keep the sensor from working.
Helps to clean the sensor now and then, too. I have this issue on my Pixel 5 all the time.
I actually find the opposite. If my fingers have any dampness at all, it won't read properly.
I only wash my hands once a week and the sensor works fine
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Wash my hands? I never had a device with in display fingerprint which needed washed hands.
I just added a new tempered glass screen protector, and that one is known for being awesome. I added all four fingerprints again, and it all worked like a charm for like five hours. 10/10 instant unlock. Today it does not work anymore. 3/10 unlock and slow. It's a software issue I guess and by now I'm totally fed up with the incompetence of the Google developers. It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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Wash my hands? I never had a device with in display fingerprint which needed washed hands.
I just added a new tempered glass screen protector, and that one is known for being awesome. I added all for fingerprints again, and it all worked like a charm for like five hours. 10/10 instant unlock. Today it does not work anymore. 3/10 unlock and slow. It's a software issue I guess and by now I'm totally fed up with the incompetence of the Google developers. It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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That happens to me too sometimes. Like perfect for a day or so then no matter what I do it's 3/10 just like you. I then reboot and it usually clears it up. One fail safe method it to rub your thumb (or whatever finger you use) across your forehead then try again. I've heard licking your finger but that is disgusting and I'd never do that. Try those 2 methods see if it helps. The March update also seems to make it quicker but it could be placebo.
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It's a 750€ device, and even 200€ BBK phones got better working fingerprint readers.
I'm quite pi**ed.
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I've gone from being pissed to being amused at how bad it is. For me 7 is worse than 6 ever was. Hell, just getting a couple digits enrolled on 7 has been impossible, and for an extra rub it teases and craps out at the 11:55 mark every time.
To be fair, I work with lumber and my digits tend to be rough. But this never stopped me from using fingerprints with older and cheaper phones.
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I've been plagued by fingerprint issues just like everyone else. But I've also been running an experiment. Every time my fingerprint won't unlock the phone I wash my hands. AND IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE TIME!! The sensor is EXTREMELY sensitive!! If you have even one speck of dust it could fail to unlock.
I promise you.... try it!! It will work every single time!!
I mean really, thanks Google!!! I probably should wash my hands more if they're dirty enough to keep the sensor from working.
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What that means is the fingerprint sensor on your phone is of poor quality, just like some of the other components.
Google Pixel phones and their clean (read very basic with lack of features) software are both overrated and overpriced. You're essentially paying the premium to cover their marketing costs, and not for buying a better device.
I live in a dry environment, and I find that if my fingers are particularly dry the FPS doesn't work. Just breathing on my fingertip is usually enough to get the FPS to work. That being said, the March 2023 update seems to have improved the FPS significantly for me. Or it may be placibo effect.
It's 2:00 AM here, I switched off the lights in my room, took my P7, removed all four fingerprints, added them again sitting in full darkness. Turned on lights again. Well... now the fingerprint reader has never been so fast, unlocking so snappy and even with a soft and short touch with the tip of my finger. Hilarious.
I hope the devs at Google optimize the software for this mess of a sensor. What a sh*tshow.
And now at 10:30 AM it does not work anymore... LOL. No matter how I press the sensor, it forces me to put in my PIN to unlock.
This is weird that some people have problems with FPS while others don't.
I was initially afraid about this FPS issue reading all the bad experiences but it works basically 99% of times.
I still suspect it has more to do how you position your finger on the learning phase and is the finger dry or moist.
Because during learning phase it didn't ask to retouch the sensor with moist fingers but did ask to try again with dry finger. I suspect if you teach with moist finger it expects moist fingers but with dryer fingers it seems to not matter that much. On learning phase i pressed slightly harder compared to normal use.
I relearned finger 3 times because on the first two tries it would work about 50% of times. I remember i pressed quite gently on first tries since it looked like it registered it.
On the last try i had semi-dry fingers and tried to mimic normal unlocking position while giving the whole footprint. Even the very bottom part of thumb that normally don't touch the sensor.
Now it's pretty much like OnePlus6 experience with FPS with the exception that when the finger is super dry need to press slightly harder and it will register it.
If it matters i have screen film applied on screen. Not tempered glass.
Also with March 2023 update i haven't had a single fail yet with fingerprint detection.
Initially when received the phone i had October 2022 software and i didn't want to update. Then i exactly remember that it would stop working normally after a day or so. Like it forgot some areas of finger or expected very precise location.
I did buy phone in february and it could be that earlier batches had different FPS hardware revision. Smaller resolution/memory ... ?
I played around with FPS trying to get it to fail and when pressing too gently it fails so i would conclude the right pressure is quite important. Didn't find any difference in total darkness vs well lit room.
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And now at 10:30 AM it does not work anymore... LOL. No matter how I press the sensor, it forces me to put in my PIN to unlock.
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It is a fairly well know thing after Google moved away from the ultrasonic finger print scanners last used on the Pixel 5s, it has not worked well for many people. If you did the research prior you would have seen this has been issue ever since. Easy solution is don't use it and go back to the old style of a pin or pattern.
Can't comment on the face recognition portion, since I haven't done any research on it, nor do I want to, since I don't have a desire to use it, but I am sure other here have extensive experience and knowledge about it. Just have to do the research before trying it if you want to know what may or may not come of it before trying.
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Even easier is to not use any protection at all.
Both are impractical suggestions.
Having been spoiled by Face Unlock, there is no going back for me. Fingerprint is used mostly in dark environments where Face Unlock struggles.
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Even easier is to not use any protection at all.
Both are impractical suggestions.
Having been spoiled by Face Unlock, there is no going back for me. Fingerprint is used mostly in dark environments where Face Unlock struggles.
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and the darkness is where my fingerprint on Pixel 7 fails 100% of the time.
Pin is difficult while in motion. Pattern for me is easiest.
To OP, I wash my hands religiously. I won't touch a door knob and then touch my face, so washing alone is not the solution. I imagine it has to do with screen protectors installed since everyone uses different ones that have varying thicknesses and see-through visibility.
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I imagine it has to do with screen protectors installed since everyone uses different ones that have varying thicknesses and see-through visibility.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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You gotta figure out what is wrong. Not too many responses here because most are not having those issues any longer. Originally, yes for sure. But lately it's been working a good 90+ % of the time. Never can get an unlock after swimming though until I moisturize but that's excusable. Get rid of the silly screen protector which is useless unless you are in the sand/gravel business which I see you are not. (nice walls) If it still doesn't work perhaps an RMA would be in order. I've seen that happen and the replacement is way better. But you shouldn't live with a flawed device that is otherwise very good.
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You gotta figure out what is wrong. Not too many responses here because most are not having those issues any longer. Originally, yes for sure. But lately it's been working a good 90+ % of the time. Never can get an unlock after swimming though until I moisturize but that's excusable. Get rid of the silly screen protector which is useless unless you are in the sand/gravel business which I see you are not. (nice walls) If it still doesn't work perhaps an RMA would be in order. I've seen that happen and the replacement is way better. But you shouldn't live with a flawed device that is otherwise very good.
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All good points. I don't have opinions about which screen protector works best since my Pixel 7 sensor is a dud without one. If my 7 is worse than 6 then simple logic suggests there's a defect.
I bought a used Pixel 5 a few months ago as a backup, plus it helped verify my P7 problem isn't my fingers. My wife called the P5 "cute" so now she has it. I've never gone through Google's replacement process before but it should be a breeze compared to getting the P5 back.
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I wonder what kind of special fingerprint sensor the Pixel 6 and 7 have then. My last few devices (Realme & OnePlus) with in-display fpr ... well you could have slapped a $2 or a $50 tgsp on it, and it did not matter in any way. They worked just like a charm. I had a Pixel 6 (yeah, f* that pos) and now a Pixel 7 (I really like it) and both fpr are the worst mess.
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One of the issues seems to be Tensor/Exynos versus Snapdragon. Apparently, the former can't use the latter's ultrasonic sensor tech without infringing on patents. But I think the overwhelming problem boils down to tolerances and inconsistencies in the manufacturing process, especially in the past couple years, and whether our Pixels were assembled during first shift Monday morning, hump day, payday...
@manjaroid lol you have no idea what it took to get my wife to trade in her p5. The p7 cost $100 after so she went for it. Of the rumors of the p8 at 5.8 are true then Black Friday is looking really good. As for your device it does sound like a lemon. Try to get an rma of you can.
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Hi, I just want to share my experience with my Galaxy s10's fingerprint scanner. First of all i'm using an exynos galaxy s10 with a whitestone dome glass perfectly installed on it, so far my experience with the fingerprint scanner is awful. It's the thing the makes me rate this phone badly. i'm a person who gets their hands very sweaty often and it made me excited when i heard that this scanner will work even with wet fingers but this is what i found out with my s10's scanner. it works better when my fingers are moist. whenever my fingers are naturally dry the phone will ask me to put more pressure than the usual pressure i give, in addition most of the time it gives me the NO MATCH feedback, to the point that my phone locks itself for seconds because of the repeated failures. when i got my phone i updated it to the latest update i think it's security patch level feb 1 2019. i've tried a lot of method scanning my fingers a lot of times, i've maxed out the fingerprint slots with one finger just so it will scan it more accurately. But it's just annoying there are times it would work perfectly there are times it's awful. i've owned this phone for 4days now and everyday i always register my fingerprint because it's that annoying. How's your experience with your fingerprint scanner? Any suggestions?
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Hi, I just want to share my experience with my Galaxy s10's fingerprint scanner. First of all i'm using an exynos galaxy s10 with a whitestone dome glass perfectly installed on it, so far my experience with the fingerprint scanner is awful. It's the thing the makes me rate this phone badly. i'm a person who gets their hands very sweaty often and it made me excited when i heard that this scanner will work even with wet fingers but this is what i found out with my s10's scanner. it works better when my fingers are moist. whenever my fingers are naturally dry the phone will ask me to put more pressure than the usual pressure i give, in addition most of the time it gives me the NO MATCH feedback, to the point that my phone locks itself for seconds because of the repeated failures. when i got my phone i updated it to the latest update i think it's security patch level feb 1 2019. i've tried a lot of method scanning my fingers a lot of times, i've maxed out the fingerprint slots with one finger just so it will scan it more accurately. But it's just annoying there are times it would work perfectly there are times it's awful. i've owned this phone for 4days now and everyday i always register my fingerprint because it's that annoying. How's your experience with your fingerprint scanner? Any suggestions?
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Did it work any better before you applied the Whitestone and have you changed the screen sensitivity. I have the Snapdragon but haven't had that much trouble. Since I have trusted places, on-body detection and trusted devices (my watch) on, I almost never have to use the fingerprint except for logging in secure apps and they work almost 100% of the time. I do still have the factory protector installed.
Yes its crappy at the moment. I'm getting roughly 7 in 10 success rate & have to consciously make sure I press the right area. My Oneplus 6T works nearly everytime. Hopefully updates will make it better.
Mine is good but due to the physics (S9+ you simply had a Spot to lock your finger into) it is not as good as S9+.
Personally, I don't have complains when using the finger print on my S10 Plus. I used to use screen protectors on every phones. Now I don't use screen protectors anymore. The screens now days are more durable and scratch proof than people think. Just use it normally and the screen will be fine. The last couple phones (Including iPhones) that I have used has no stretches on the screen after long time usage. Ended up selling all of them as mint condition.
On the S10, the finger print sensor works better without a screen protector. Also, you can register your finger print more than once (Using the same finger) if you need to. Remember to do it with different angles as well.
Finding it very disappointing! Taken off the supplied screen protector and adding a second finger print using the same thumb did help but its still way behind a physical button! My S9 plus was perfection compared to this! I have a success rate of about 6/7 out of 10! I always feel like iam placing my finger perfectly in the right area but sometimes it just refuses to unlcock ha
I hate to big up Apple because i hate them as a company but the iphone xs works flawlessly in comparison and Face id is a dream to use compared to this crap!
How is the S10's fingerprint sensor reliability and speed after all the updates? My fingers keep sweating all the time and therefore standard capacitive sensors do fail to unlock phones most of the time. Recently I've tried the Huawei P20 (not Pro), and it's ultrasonic fingerprint sensor was blazing fast and super reliable no matter how wet my fingers were. I don't mind one in S10 being a little bit slower, but does it work nicely even with wet fingers? I haven't tried phones with optic sensors yet, but due to technology limitations, I expect optic sensors to be even worse than capacitive ones in case of wet fingers, whereas ultrasonic, like in P20 or S10 should excel?
My experience is pretty bad. I have dry hands so that might be why, but I absolutely hate it. On the 6T it was always accurate and fast, on the Note 9 it's the best, but the fingerprint sensor on my S10 makes me want to through the phone down a bottomless pit. It's the reason I regret getting the phone.
Fingerprint works fine for me. But when my fingers go dry the ultrasonic is not good. The work around I found is to rub my thumb before using the ultrasonic. Works fine. Other than, it's not super fast to unlock the phone but well I don't have much issue. The S10 recognize my fingers most of the time (dry finger is the culprit definitely)
50/50. It only works half of the time. Really bad.
So i did what i read, i scanned the same finger more than once, and did this with different orientations,
all in all works like charm, at least 9 out of 10
I received an update yesterday with the June security patch. Fingerprint sensor seems to have been improved again
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I received an update yesterday with the June security patch. Fingerprint sensor seems to have been improved again
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I bought it with part reason that this scanner works with wet hands. Well it does....but overall the performance is quite bad. A short tap is all you need to get in,but it needs time to process before youre in. Takes like 1 - 1,5 seconds compared to 0.5 on other flagships. Besides this, it also fails to reconise my fingers a lot.
I only scanned one thumb since that's all I use so that may be the reason mine works 100% of the time. I can't remember the last time mine didn't read the first try.
For me, at start it worked 50/50. But when i added 2 times same finger i use (both thumbs x2) it works 100% of time. But still it could be improved with software.
Well, it seems like everyone's got totally different experience. I've seen that fingerprint sensor in S10 covers really small area, so you maybe have to place your finger very precisely into one spot, so that maybe one factor to consider. Hmm, I guess I'll have to try it myself, but based on your responses, it doesn't really seem to be sensor which meets expectations for flagship device.
Personally, I used to have mistakes because I didn't put my whole fingerprint on the sensor. Now I put my whole fingerprint on the ultrasonic sensor and it works like charm. With dry fingers, I need to put more pressure on the sensor so that the sensor can read my fingerprint properly. At the end I find the ultrasonic not so bad after all. I have 0% mistakes now. For the next generation of that ultrasonic I suppose they will improve the sensitivity of the sensor so that it becomes instantaneous.
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My personal experience is with SM-G9730 with OEM screen saver pulled off in frustration. I find that ease and reliability of entering fingerprints as well as accuracy and reliability of using fingerprint unlock is improved dramatically after June security update. I B happy!
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Personally, I used to have mistakes because I didn't put my whole fingerprint on the sensor. Now I put my whole fingerprint on the ultrasonic sensor and it works like charm. With dry fingers, I need to put more pressure on the sensor so that the sensor can read my fingerprint properly. At the end I find the ultrasonic not so bad after all. I have 0% mistakes now. For the next generation of that ultrasonic I suppose they will improve the sensitivity of the sensor so that it becomes instantaneous.
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The sensor itself is already pretty much instant. Give the sensor a slight tap and it will work. The waiting is because of the processing needed. A 3d scan needs a lot more processing to make sure its a valid fingerprint. So i can already guarantee the next samsung phone will do this faster due to a better processor.
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The sensor itself is already pretty much instant. Give the sensor a slight tap and it will work. The waiting is because of the processing needed. A 3d scan needs a lot more processing to make sure its a valid fingerprint. So i can already guarantee the next samsung phone will do this faster due to a better processor.
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The slight tap only work if your finger is not dry. Then yes it works and unlock instantaneously. What I mean is that the main limit of the ultrasonic is the dry finger situation. With dry fingers slight tap just don't work because the sensor doesn't recognize the fingerprint. That's why it requires to put some pressure on the screen so that the sensor can read the fingerprint. Anyway hope the next generation will fix it.
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My personal experience is with SM-G9730 with OEM screen saver pulled off in frustration. I find that ease and reliability of entering fingerprints as well as accuracy and reliability of using fingerprint unlock is improved dramatically after June security update. I B happy!
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Oh so it's not my imagination, June update did improve the fingerprint unlock. I also have the same positive experience. It's way way better
If I do some yard work and don't wear gardening gloves then it doesn't work as reliably as it prior. Takes a few days until my skin on my fingers repair then the sensor works good again.
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So I've had the S10 for a few days now. So far I can say fingerprint sensor is working very well with wet fingers achieving nearly 100% success rate. However, speed differs a lot from almost instant unlock taking about 0.5 sec to slow unlock at around 2 seconds. It is nowhere near the speed of fingerprint scanner in P20, but since it is in display, it is perfectly acceptable to me as long as fingerprint gets recognised reliably.
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The slight tap only work if your finger is not dry. Then yes it works and unlock instantaneously. What I mean is that the main limit of the ultrasonic is the dry finger situation. With dry fingers slight tap just don't work because the sensor doesn't recognize the fingerprint. That's why it requires to put some pressure on the screen so that the sensor can read the fingerprint. Anyway hope the next generation will fix it.
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I can confirm this issue with dry fingers. It needs some real pressure if your finger is completely dry(which my is almost never) and takes some time to unlock.
All in all, it works good to me, with wet fingers nicely compared to capacitive scanners, which is not the case with very dry fingers, as it needs pressure and still can fail many times.
For me it's working fine..trick is you have to put the finger on the right spot
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Part of the appeal of a fingerprint scanner is to be able to use it in situations where you can't use face unlock.
I use my phone at literally all times throughout the day. My biggest concern is unlocking it via face unlock when there's no light. I use my phone in bed while my wife is asleep and find myself constantly locking it, unlocking it, etc.
So will it work in the dark? Normal face unlock on most Android phones just use the camera to match a face, but does the Pixel 4 do the exact same thing, or is there a bit more technology in it that will somehow scan my face in the dark and unlock it?
Any insight would be great!
That's one of the main reasons I got this phone, believe it or not. I can't stand unlocking in the middle of the night with those god-awful f*cking optical fingerprint sensors, blinding the sh*t out of you. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it works in the dark since they used infrared cameras, the soli radar sensor, flood illuminator and the dot projector.
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Part of the appeal of a fingerprint scanner is to be able to use it in situations where you can't use face unlock.
I use my phone at literally all times throughout the day. My biggest concern is unlocking it via face unlock when there's no light. I use my phone in bed while my wife is asleep and find myself constantly locking it, unlocking it, etc.
So will it work in the dark? Normal face unlock on most Android phones just use the camera to match a face, but does the Pixel 4 do the exact same thing, or is there a bit more technology in it that will somehow scan my face in the dark and unlock it?
Any insight would be great!
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it works. i tried it.
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it works. i tried it.
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Pitch Black as well? Also, could you test soli in pitch black?
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Pitch Black as well? Also, could you test soli in pitch black?
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Yes
I turned all the lights off. You do have to press to lock button. It lights up the screen and unlocks it instantly
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I turned all the lights off. You do have to press to lock button. It lights up the screen and unlocks it instantly
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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So far I am very happy with the phone. Now most people wonder how did j get it.. I actually got it from a YouTube reviewer here in berlin
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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Which phones have a lit fingerprint sensor? My Pixel 2 XL is just a drab, dark circle on the rear of the phone.
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Which phones have a lit fingerprint sensor? My Pixel 2 XL is just a drab, dark circle on the rear of the phone.
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The optical on-screen fingerprint readers like on OnePlus phones.
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The optical on-screen fingerprint readers like on OnePlus phones.
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This. Which is unfortunately what I have been stuck with, to date. The 31st can't come fast enough.
Not only will your phone unlock in the dark, but if you face your phone towards a mirror and get close to the mirror, it will unlock from your reflection (yes, even in the dark).
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I can live with that, thank you. That's a lot better than being blinded by that built-in fingerprint sensor. Regardless of all the hate, I am really looking forward to it.
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That depends on the type of fingerprint sensor. You seem to be referring to the under the screen kind of which there are two types. There are the ones that basically use a camera sensor to take a picture of your finger through the screen. Those are less secure and do require the screen to light up. There is also the better one from Qualcomm that uses ultrasound to make a 3D mapping of your fingerprint. It is more secure and doesn't require the screen to light up. The Galaxy S10 and Note 10 have the ultrasonic type. I think OnePlus uses the optical type but I'm not sure.
I really would have liked it the Pixel 4 had the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor instead of (or many in addition to) the dumb face unlock.
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That depends on the type of fingerprint sensor. You seem to be referring to the under the screen kind of which there are two types. There are the ones that basically use a camera sensor to take a picture of your finger through the screen. Those are less secure and do require the screen to light up. There is also the better one from Qualcomm that uses ultrasound to make a 3D mapping of your fingerprint. It is more secure and doesn't require the screen to light up. The Galaxy S10 and Note 10 have the ultrasonic type. I think OnePlus uses the optical type but I'm not sure.
I really would have liked it the Pixel 4 had the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor instead of (or many in addition to) the dumb face unlock.
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Yes, I am aware that there are two different types of FP sensors currently available for in screen operation. Ultrasonic being the better and more secure of the two, and obviously works in more conditions than the optical sensor, but unfortunately it's slow as hell as of right now. Which is something I don't understand about OnePlus, why they couldn't use the ultrasonic and just work on the software. Part of the reason why I'm ditching one plus, they're not really good when it comes to software, but they have no problem throwing a sh*t ton of hardware at it to try and make you forget that fact. IMO, optical was last year's tech, companies should be working on making ultrasonic more functional and affordable. As for adding one to the P4, I guess that's user preference. I feel the face unlock will be enough, for me.
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Yes, I am aware that there are two different types of FP sensors currently available for in screen operation. Ultrasonic being the better and more secure of the two, and obviously works in more conditions than the optical sensor, but unfortunately it's slow as hell as of right now. Which is something I don't understand about OnePlus, why they couldn't use the ultrasonic and just work on the software. Part of the reason why I'm ditching one plus, they're not really good when it comes to software, but they have no problem throwing a sh*t ton of hardware at it to try and make you forget that fact. IMO, optical was last year's tech, companies should be working on making ultrasonic more functional and affordable. As for adding one to the P4, I guess that's user preference. I feel the face unlock will be enough, for me.
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My only guess on why One Plus went for the optical sensor is the same reason it doesn't get IP certification.....cost. The ultra sonic sensor probably costs more than the optical sensor. I haven't really had a chance to use either one myself but in the videos I've seen of Samsung phones the ultra sonic sensor does seem to work pretty quick.
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That's one of the main reasons I got this phone, believe it or not. I can't stand unlocking in the middle of the night with those god-awful f*cking optical fingerprint sensors, blinding the sh*t out of you. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it works in the dark since they used infrared cameras, the soli radar sensor, flood illuminator and the dot projector.
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lol, the 6T would about make a grown man weep!
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lol, the 6T would about make a grown man weep!
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Lol, it nearly has. It has been everything I can do not to chuck this POS against a wall. I have even considered selling it and buying a burner, it's so bad. P4xl is due Thursday, so another day or two shouldn't be too bad. Stoked
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This. Which is unfortunately what I have been stuck with, to date. The 31st can't come fast enough.
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I hate this too. It always amazes me there isn't more complaints about it
I registered my face in good light and while wearing my glasses. In most situations face unlock seems to work well, but when I'm in bed without glasses, it doesn't work at all. I wear pretty strong prescription glasses, could that be it? Should I rescan while not wearing glasses?
Yep, I noticed the same. Especially when laying on the side on a pillow, so only ~3/4 of the face is visible to the Phone.
Maybe add an additional face?
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Yep, I noticed the same. Especially when laying on the side on a pillow, so only ~3/4 of the face is visible to the Phone.
Maybe add an additional face?
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I was thinking the same thing, regarding a second face scenario.
I've been told I am two-faced! How can I add another face? Can't see the option anywhere.
I registered without glasses, and I have no issue unlocking while wearing glasses, sunglasses, or even a hat.
How do we redo the face registration?
I feel like I didn't do a good job the first time.
TIA
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I registered without glasses, and I have no issue unlocking while wearing glasses, sunglasses, or even a hat.
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This. I did the same thing and it works perfect with or without glasses
Noticed the same thing as well I believe if you have a pillow or anything behind your head while sleeping it struggles also could be the fact that while sleeping it flattens youlr face so may be that's why it doesn't work.
I deleted my face and relearned without glasses. Unlock with glasses is a little bit slower now, but unlock in bed is much better.
Sadly there seems only one face that could be trained, not more like fingerprints? What if I want to share the phone with gf or so?
Damn I really miss the fingerprint sensor!
I think it's been well covered, but I too registered without glasses and have no trouble unlocking with glasses. I can wear a beanie, my hood pulled up, glasses, in a not well-lit room, instant unlock every time.
Works fine for me with or without glasses. Sometimes I takes longer when I am laying on my back in the dark. But, it still works.
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I registered my face in moderate lighting, glasses on.
No issues detecting my face with glasses on or off, with sunglasses, glasses and sunglasses with a hat on, and glasses with a hat on and Sony over ear headphones on.
Doenerbude said:
I deleted my face and relearned without glasses. Unlock with glasses is a little bit slower now, but unlock in bed is much better.
Sadly there seems only one face that could be trained, not more like fingerprints? What if I want to share the phone with gf or so?
Damn I really miss the fingerprint sensor!
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100% agree. I've relearned my face multiple times now and I'm still waiting for it to be unlocked when bringing it to my face, with the fingerprint sensor it was unlocked before even coming out of my pocket.
Why is there no option learn MULTIPLE FACES!!!! What the actual ****? Let us give it more chance to be accurate, even iPhone can do this lmao.. I've had the phone for 24 hours now and its starting to feel like the windows vista of the windows world.
Hello, I recently bought a glass screen protector, it fits well and everything. It's one of the UV gel applicated ones. It stated in the description that it worked with the fingerprint sensor, but at least half the time it will say no match. Maybe even more than half the time. It's really bad. Before the protector was one I was amazed at how well the fingerprint sensor worked. I had an in display sensor on my last phone, OnePlus 7pro, and it almost no comparison as to how fast and accurate it was.
I already set the sensitivity to high for the touchscreen and I have also redone the fingerprint learning process a few times.
So now I feel torn. I don't want to live without a screen protector. I feel they really can save you from breaking your screen when you drop your phone as the protector will crack instead by absorbing the force instead.
So has anyone found one that works really well?
Whitestonedome makes perfect on my end
Tonyy1206 said:
Whitestonedome makes perfect on my end
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Yup, a friend and I have the Dome and they work perfectly fine.
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How? I've installed two of them and although looks fine, have to press SUPER hard to even get it to read...and even then it reads it like 25% of the time is all.
If I have face unlock turned on it gives the appearance that it's working fine, try it in a dark room so you know it's not using the face. Doesn't work worth crap....
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How? I've installed two of them and although looks fine, have to press SUPER hard to even get it to read...and even then it reads it like 25% of the time is all.
If I have face unlock turned on it gives the appearance that it's working fine, try it in a dark room so you know it's not using the face. Doesn't work worth crap....
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The domes I installed are fine as well.
Whitestone dome work perfectly with fingerprint...never missed a single time so far in 2 months
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Whitestone dome work perfectly with fingerprint...never missed a single time so far in 2 months
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HOW??? Seriously, there's all kinds of reports with people having FPS issues, how do some people not have issues? Did they change the glue or something? It's crap, ANFilm is better with the weight but not great. Even with sensitivity turned up............
WSD - Press REALLY hard and pray it open after 5-10 seconds
AnFilm - Press REALLY hard and pray it opens after 1-3 seconds
Non-Glass film - touch and it unlocks instantly.....
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HOW??? Seriously, there's all kinds of reports with people having FPS issues, how do some people not have issues? Did they change the glue or something? It's crap, ANFilm is better with the weight but not great. Even with sensitivity turned up............
WSD - Press REALLY hard and pray it open after 5-10 seconds
AnFilm - Press REALLY hard and pray it opens after 1-3 seconds
Non-Glass film - touch and it unlocks instantly.....
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I didn't even turn up the sensitivity and it works great.
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HOW??? Seriously, there's all kinds of reports with people having FPS issues, how do some people not have issues? Did they change the glue or something? It's crap, ANFilm is better with the weight but not great. Even with sensitivity turned up............
WSD - Press REALLY hard and pray it open after 5-10 seconds
AnFilm - Press REALLY hard and pray it opens after 1-3 seconds
Non-Glass film - touch and it unlocks instantly.....
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I completely understand, had similar results as you! I feel like people troll!
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I completely understand, had similar results as you! I feel like people troll!
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I could post a video to show you I'm not "trolling". I have no reason to lie about it working or not.
airmaxx23 said:
I could post a video to show you I'm not "trolling". I have no reason to lie about it working or not.
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lol I was just saying it feels like your being trolled when you know you are doing something correct and getting different results as someone else! Glad it's working for you!
With the Whitestone screen protector I had to add the same finger to all of the available slots to ensure fairly reliable unlocking. It still sometimes fails if my fingertip is very dry.
GOTO screen protector from the Tmobile store works 90% of the time, but I bought it at an expensive price of $45. You have to wait for 2 days for the screen protector fingerprint sensor area to work properly.
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With the Whitestone screen protector I had to add the same finger to all of the available slots to ensure fairly reliable unlocking. It still sometimes fails if my fingertip is very dry.
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Same over here, even when registering a new FP entry, I need to press hard, or no go.
Interestingly if I breathe over the finger (adding moisture) before touching the screen, it recognises like 95% of the time. Although I workaround, it's annoying to say the least, not to mention what someone thinks if they see you doing it.
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One thing that may be worth mentioning is that when setting my fingerprints up my finger/thumb is turned to the same angle that it is when I unlock the phone. When you hold the phone and unlock it with your thumb it isn't straight up and down, it's turn to the side, when you scan your thumb it should be in the same position. Same thing goes for scanning your finger.
Do you really need a fingerprint sensor?
Time has proven 2 things to me about device passwords; the only real security is physical possession of the device, and you will at some point lose the password access due to a hardware failure (including data corruption).
Total lockout passwords are a bad plan unless you're dealing with national or sensitive company etc data.
All I use is double tap on... and never set a bios password on any of my PCs, ever.
Encryption for critical data drives is even worse.
Total access loss vs an imaginary false sense of security.
Think hard about that before you get locked out.
Don't get too clever for your own good...
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GOTO screen protector from the Tmobile store works 90% of the time, but I bought it at an expensive price of $45. You have to wait for 2 days for the screen protector fingerprint sensor area to work properly.
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That's the worst screen protector I have every seen in my life. Tmobile should be sued for selling it.
To add I have whitedome as well and I had to reregister a couple times but works well now
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You don't, no, we just find it hard to believe because it's no where near that for the majority of us. Tape over the front camera to rule out face unlock and barely touch the screen. Does it unlock with your FPS or do you have to press HARD to get it to register? Don't see how it magically works for you when it doesn't for 99% of everyone else.
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Do you really need a fingerprint sensor?
Time has proven 2 things to me about device passwords; the only real security is physical possession of the device, and you will at some point lose the password access due to a hardware failure (including data corruption).
Total lockout passwords are a bad plan unless you're dealing with national or sensitive company etc data.
All I use is double tap on... and never set a bios password on any of my PCs, ever.
Encryption for critical data drives is even worse.
Total access loss vs an imaginary false sense of security.
Think hard about that before you get locked out.
Don't get too clever for your own good...
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HUH? I doubt hardly anyone I know has ever had the not be able to get to their phone due to "hardware failure". And what "total loss?" That's why it backs up to the cloud (where you have 2FA) and why there's a backup passcode if it can't read your fingerprint. Plus a lot of us work for companies that require passcodes on the phone to sync corporate email......so FPS is faster than the darn code every time.
Why would you even risk losing your phone with no lock on it, the person could cause issues so quickly on that phone. I see no downside....my phone locks me out and I can't even enter the backup passcode, I can get a new phone and restore from the cloud. My phone gets lost with no code the user sees all my pics, access my google pay, posts as me on FB/Twitter, texts my wife, etc.
Please, don't try to tell people they shouldn't use phone security. SMH
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You don't, no, we just find it hard to believe because it's no where near that for the majority of us. Tape over the front camera to rule out face unlock and barely touch the screen. Does it unlock with your FPS or do you have to press HARD to get it to register? Don't see how it magically works for you when it doesn't for 99% of everyone else.
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I've tested it with the phone not facing me and it works fine, I don't have to press hard, just place my finger on the screen. A friend of mine has the Dome as well and has zero issues.