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Nexus 7, Note Phone, Tablet Talk, Copilot Navigation, Ford Sync, Griffin car charger

I just took a small trip and used the Tablet Talk linked via bluetooth to my Note phone with the Note synced via bluetooth to Ford SYNC. Purchased a Griffin car charger allegedly rated for 2 amps.
The good news. It worked, mostly. The charger does charge but no way in heck it puts out enough to run the tablet - didn't keep up with the battery so I will have to replace it.
Got a call - it showed on the nexus and I talked via SYNC. When I received the call the Copilot paused and Tablet Talk popped up, showing the name of the caller. I hung up the call from the Nexus. Everything worked great except I had no audio out of the Nexus 7. Gonna have to try to troubleshoot this.

I miss my Fusion
Sounds like quite the setup there...

If it's any consolation, in the brief time I've had when playing with Tablet Talk, I don't have audio-out either. I can control whether it goes to speakerphone or answer/hangup, amongst other things, but it's just acting like a remote and and audio sent or received is handled by the phone, rather than the tablet. I'm thinking it's a limitation of the app at this stage and that it may be fully functional in future versions. There was a message that came up when enabling the option to show incoming calls but I can't remember what it said now..

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If it's any consolation, in the brief time I've had when playing with Tablet Talk, I don't have audio-out either. I can control whether it goes to speakerphone or answer/hangup, amongst other things, but it's just acting like a remote and and audio sent or received is handled by the phone, rather than the tablet. I'm thinking it's a limitation of the app at this stage and that it may be fully functional in future versions. There was a message that came up when enabling the option to show incoming calls but I can't remember what it said now..
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Thanks for the reply.
It appears at this point that enabling Tablet Talk ALSO cuts audio from Co-pilot. I still haven't had time to really attempt any troubleshooting though; could be some type of setting is wrong or it could be Tablet Talk does need to work on their software. I do like (not in car) the ability to send and receive texts but do wish the interface was a bit different.
Now to find a car charger that actually works.

If you want to use the phone part of TabletTalk, you must go in and enable it. It will make your tablet act like the phone when incoming calls comes in.
I just talked to dev a short bit ago, and there is a newer version about to be put up on Play Store..
i love that app, along with theming it to change the look and feel of it. it works flawlessly.

[Q] Moto X, Touchless Control, and UCOnnect hands-free.

So, this may have been brought up already, I did try to search, but didnt come up with much.
So, i bought a Moto X, even after hearing the lenovo/google news. I figure that they cant ruin the device quickly enough to justify second-guessing my long and painstaking decision process.
Anyway, touchless control is pretty awesome. Ive been tinkering with it since i got it. I'm a long time android user, and have been using google now for some time. The problem is this.
I drive a 2013 Jeep, with a UConnect bluetooth hands-free system. It works for what its supposed to work for, i can make calls, stream audio, all is well. In fact its working better than it did on my old GNex. However, once I connect my motox to UConnect (that is, i get in, turn on the Jeep, and bluetooth associates), touchless control becomes unresponsive. In fact, it seems that even if i try to manually initiate a voice search, google now cant hear me. I can use the voice input for the keyboard, just not voice commands. It's almost like as soon as i'm paired to a bluetooth input, google now voice input/touchless control get turned off. Which to me seems odd.
I tried looking around in my settings, i cant seem to find a setting that tells the phone to do this. It just doesnt work.
Also, if i turn off bluetooth while the Jeep is still running, touchless/voice input starts working again.
I havent tried pairing it to another bluetooth headset to see if it does it then too, i'll update this thread once i've had a chance to try that.
Is this something others are experiencing? Is it supposed to do this for some safety feature, and I dont know it?
Thanks!

I don't have a vehicle with bluetooth, you may have better luck posting your question in the "Question and Answer" area.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa
Good luck with finding a fix!

Apparently the various signs and warnings telling me to post questions in the q&a section dont apply to me.
Thanks, I'll post over there.
Mods, feel free to lock/delete/destroy with fire this thread.

Android Auto and the Nexus 6.

I thought it may be interesting to have a thread where Nexus 6 users with the supporting hardware systems could post: Tips, How to's, experience, etc. about the Android Auto APK and Nexus 6 devices. Please feel free to enlighten all who enter. :good:

Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.

Not sure if you're asking or telling.
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Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.
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It is a mobile application for using your phone in a car. It displays on the cars touch screen and is controlled by voice commands. It only uses the bluetooth stack for phone calls, all other sound and video comes from the phones usb port. This equates to better audio and clear, crisp video. By the way, it only works on the latest Android HU.

i've been using it with my Pioneer 4100-NEX, it works quite well. i wish you could swipe away cards and have more notifications push though (ie, sms and hangouts come through, but not facebook messenger)
all in all i'm pretty happy with it, it's fast, simple, pretty and i've been pleasantly surprised with how responsive the resistive screen on the HU is.

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It is a mobile application
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No. Its an interface.
for using your phone in a car. It displays on the cars touch screen and is controlled by voice commands. It only uses the bluetooth stack for phone calls, all other sound and video comes from the phones usb port. This equates to better audio and clear, crisp video.
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Translate to what I said.
By the way, it only works on the latest Android HU.
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HU does *not* require android to work with android auto.

If you want to try out Android Auto you can sign up for the beta of the app called AutoMate. First you'll need to join the beta group in Google+. Next you'll have to agree to be a beta tester with google play. Then you'll finally be able to download the app. I have been using the app for a couple of days now and I personally think that it is great. Its just like Android Auto, at least from what i've seen in all of the android auto demos. I have a pretty good car mount that can fit the nexus 6 so when I took a 4 hour trip this weekend everything worked flawlessly. The best part is that you've already got a giant 6 inch capacitive screen, why not use it instead of paying at least $800 for the cheap resistive screen version of the pioneer head units.

I have a pretty interesting issue where my Android Wear watch (Moto 360) is being CONSTANTLY pinged by my Nexus 6 while plugged into Android Auto. For the life of me, I can't figure out why. Maps is the only app I use regularly in Android Auto and I have it muted on Android Wear...yet, it's draining my Moto 360 battery QUICKLY every time I plug in. It's the strangest thing. I've had to start putting my 360 into Airplane mode to avoid problems while driving. As soon as I unplug the Nexus from my Android Auto HU, I then have to reconnect my 360 in the Android Wear app...or else it won't reconnect and continues to drain battery.
Seriously the weirdest thing.

yeah I have the pioneer 4100nex and originally was using a Moto G and it works great and then I preorderd the ATT galaxy S6 Edge and received it on tuesday, well the S6 edge doesn't work with the Android Auto, so I returned it and just bought google play edition Nexus 6 64gb, and works perfect, I really like the google navigation, reads texts and you can voice reply to the texts,you can play your google music, I`m very happy with it.:good:

That is not the purpose of this thread.
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If you want to try out Android Auto you can sign up for the beta of the app called AutoMate. First you'll need to join the beta group in Google+. Next you'll have to agree to be a beta tester with google play. Then you'll finally be able to download the app. I have been using the app for a couple of days now and I personally think that it is great. Its just like Android Auto, at least from what i've seen in all of the android auto demos. I have a pretty good car mount that can fit the nexus 6 so when I took a 4 hour trip this weekend everything worked flawlessly. The best part is that you've already got a giant 6 inch capacitive screen, why not use it instead of paying at least $800 for the cheap resistive screen version of the pioneer head units.
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I like to believe we all know how to use our phones hands free in a car and need no special app to do that. That's the way most of us have been doing it for the past six years or so since the smartphones came out. A simple bluetooth radio used to give you all you needed paired with your phones screen. But now it's much easier to get into your car, plug your device into your hidden USB port and let it charge with screen off and have a heads up display on your radios big screen while the audio is streamed through USB and the only thing using the bluetooth stack is the phone part of the phone. Sound quality is vastly improved and everything runs so much smoother. Plus the steering wheel controls for answering calls, activating OK google and other voice related options allows you to keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.

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I like to believe we all know how to use our phones hands free in a car and need no special app to do that. That's the way most of us have been doing it for the past six years or so since the smartphones came out. A simple bluetooth radio used to give you all you needed paired with your phones screen. But now it's much easier to get into your car, plug your device into your hidden USB port and let it charge with screen off and have a heads up display on your radios big screen while the audio is streamed through USB and the only thing using the bluetooth stack is the phone part of the phone. Sound quality is vastly improved and everything runs so much smoother. Plus the steering wheel controls for answering calls, activating OK google and other voice related options allows you to keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.
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First if your car already has Bluetooth like mine then you still have all of the same controls as the actual android auto head units. Also just like on my phone it's not like you can just say OK Google with the music playing but if the music isn't at least I can just say OK Google even with the screen off as well and will get a response. More that likely a person will still end up looking at the device or take their hands off of the wheel when giving a command. I mean come on, Google now works but everyone knows that it's still not perfect yet. Even on my phone I still have to type out what I'm saying even if I'm annunciating perfectly just FYI... Bluetooth audio has also vastly improved over the years. I would argue that the average person would not even notice the difference between Bluetooth audio and being playing directly over USB. Also don't say that it runs 'so much smoother' because most of us have seen the videos and they are still laggy and still not as responsive as our phone themselves. I was simply giving an option to people who wanted to try out android auto without having to buy a crappy resistive screen head unit unless you wanted to shell out over $1000 for one. Also is not a heads up display... A heads up display would be something out in the area of where the driver will be looking out of the windshield as to not having to take their eyes off of the road ahead.

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First if your car already has Bluetooth like mine then you still have all of the same controls as the actual android auto head units. Also just like on my phone it's not like you can just say OK Google with the music playing but if the music isn't at least I can just say OK Google even with the screen off as well and will get a response. More that likely a person will still end up looking at the device or take their hands off of the wheel when giving a command. I mean come on, Google now works but everyone knows that it's still not perfect yet. Even on my phone I still have to type out what I'm saying even if I'm annunciating perfectly just FYI... Bluetooth audio has also vastly improved over the years. I would argue that the average person would not even notice the difference between Bluetooth audio and being playing directly over USB. Also don't say that it runs 'so much smoother' because most of us have seen the videos and they are still laggy and still not as responsive as our phone themselves. I was simply giving an option to people who wanted to try out android auto without having to buy a crappy resistive screen head unit unless you wanted to shell out over $1000 for one. Also is not a heads up display... A heads up display would be something out in the area of where the driver will be looking out of the windshield as to not having to take their eyes off of the road ahead.
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Please try and understand what I started this thread for. It is for those of us who are using Android Auto with a supporting head unit. Just like back a few months ago, I was using the sync system in my car. I have never had any issues with my voice to text, every once in a while a word would be incorrect, but the more you use it in a quite environment the better your results get. My text messaging reads back my response before it sends and I can either allow it to send or say the message again. I have not had to touch my phone in a car for five years and don't plan on doing anything like that today even with the radios display. The idea of hands free is exactly that, Hands Free. If you don't have the tech to support and help contribute to developing apps that help alleviate the use of hands in the car, this is not the forum thread for you. I don't know what music application you prefer, but the ones I use I pay a premium for because they offer me higher bandwidth and truer sound. And you can immediately here the difference between bluetooth and wired. It's been rumored already that Bluetooth is soon to become extinct and it seems that is the way mobile tech is rolling. BTW, HU the way I was using it my Head Unit not heads up.

The good part is.....
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Android auto is just a remote display and sound, isn't it? I don't find it particularly interesting since it *depends* on the phone for the "android" aspect. It is a much better option to install an Android HU in the car, then it isn't functionally dependent on the phone.
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That would be the ideal, but very few cars come with a built in cellular connection, I know they are available but this is the inexpensive way to go. What I like the most about it is the ability to put the phone in my center compartment where the USB outlet is hidden, shut the compartment while the phone is charging and still have access to all of my phones functionality straight from the steering wheel. It's wonderful not to have to look at a screen, and if I do glance at the screen to see a turn that might be coming up or what song is playing on a stream, it is big and clear and takes not even a second to see. Luckily, the Navigation in google maps is pretty trustworthy and gives voice commands with plenty of time to spare so it's rare to even have to look at the Map when moving. My next car will have built in cellular service, it was just still to expensive four years ago when I bought my car and my service provider did not have a system in place for plugging in their tech. They do now but I won't be in the market for another car for at least another year. The thing that got me into having a Android Auto supporting HU is my text messaging application and the sync system, would not play nice together anymore because of changes in Lollipop from kit kat. Sync kept crashing the bluetooth sharing feature anytime I received a text. And since I was using that tech for the past four years, there was no way I was going back to having to touch a screen or try and type a text in the car. The developers I work with tried many fixes to see if we could alleviate the problem, but every thing we tried failed. The problem was immediately remedied with the new HU. Now I'm trying to find others that use the same tech, so we can share our experiences and any other useful features we find or help each other with certain problems one might experience. That is what this thread is about. If you have a Android Auto compatible HU and a Nexus device, this is a place to share.

Pixel XL issues with Android Auto

I recently purchased a new VW car and have been using Android Auto on the built in display. The first time I used it it all worked perfectly, since then it hasn't. My Android Auto no longer gives me notifications when I receive texts. And if they do show up on the home screen and I click the play button to read them, it shows the four dots as if its thinking but nothing happens and I have to cancel out of it.
Additionally, I've noticed that my bluetooth smart lock doesn't seem to be working at all. Every time I connect it asks if I want to add my car to my trusted devices. Each time I say yes but it NEVER seems to save it. It will then later sometimes prompt for permission to read my messages. To this I again say yes but it doesn't seem to make the message issue go away even after I do this. I am not sure if these two issues are related (I'm hoping they are).
Can anyone tell me why the hell my smart lock can't seem to register and remember my car? And why wont android auto read my messages properly? (Pixel XL. Phone calls and navigation all are working properly)

Same issue here

You have to give Android Auto all permissions it asks for at the first start. And be sure to use a very good cable. There are many USB C cables on market which are not fully supporting USB C features and the system do expect them.

I'm in the same situation with my VW Atlas. Problem is with both my Pixel (running Android O) and my wife's Nexus 6p (running Nougat). I have given it all permissions, including some that it didn't ask for. I also have been using the little 4 inch cord that came with the 6p, so the cable or its length should not be an issue. In addition to the above, my car also forgets its bluetooth pairings if I try to connect the AA cable before the bluetooth has connected. I've been learning to do that but sometimes I forget. It's got to be an issue with the VW software.

I have come across these issues myself in a Golf Mk7 both with a Motorola Droid Turbo and now with a Google Pixel 3 XL.
In the case of getting Android Auto to read/send messages where you just get the four dots bouncing up and down and doing nothing else, that's a setting with the Google Assistant app. Go into that app on your phone (the round G icon) and drill into settings and under Voice >> Voice Match, make sure "OK Google" detection is turned on. Even though you might not be actually using it, it has to be turned on for this to work. Totally lame and non-intuitive, but that's what fixed that for me.
As for the car falling out of your Smart Lock and for repeatedly prompting you for permission to access your text messages, I have only had this issue with AA in my VW and not in other cars, so it's a VW-specific issue and something to do with the bluetooth hardware. I do not have a fix for it but the workaround is you must have BT turned on on your phone first and let it connect fully to your car OUTSIDE of AA. Make sure at that point you permit text message access (if prompted) and check your Smart Lock and add your car to it if needed. Then going forward whenever you connect to your car you MUST let BT connect fully first before you plug in and fire up AA. It's unfortunate that you can't just plug in and go w/o waiting for BT first but that's the only way I've gotten this to work without re-prompting me for SMS access permissions and Smart Lock.
Good luck!

Super assistant Cast.. All in 1 google asst & chromecast, using old droid 5 phone

I started a project to use my old galaxy S4 as a Google assistant and a chromecast all at once. I have the google assistant part working and the casting apps installed. Its just down to fine tuning now and getting both to work correctly. This project originally started with just using the phone as a google assistant and then I thought why not add chromecast. The S4 supports MHL so I figured ill get a dock and go from there (the dock has yet to arrive).
Here is my setup for all those who wish to follow, help or provide input.
-Galaxy S4 rooted with stang5litre Ediition 5.0 rom.
-Installed google assistant via google assistant launcher here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-assistant-launcher-google-t3614804
NOTE: The above app may not be needed cuz my limitation was getting an updated google to install on android 5, I got the assistant app fine. Your results may vary. I got updated google search via apk and was off and running.
Once I got the assistant installed I paired it with a bluetooth speaker and had 2 issues.
1. Bluetooth not staying connected & audio not coming through the speaker. It was just a matter of finding the right speaker and then playing with it.
2. I also had the screen off issue where assistant would not respond and had to get daydream to work. I also tried this app: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934495
The problem with screen standby is it wont respond to assistant calls when it triggers, but I might need to go back to it when the doc arrives. The daydream screensaver I have now is clock plus which has a dim to nearly dark features. So that works for assistant to stay active.
-Chromecast ability: I installed 2 apps for chromecast like affect. 1. Airpin (airplay) and 2. allcast receiver. I tried airscreen but that dev wants to much money for such a simple app. Now I know neither of these offer true chromecast support and airscreen is the only 1 that does offer the real deal (it even shows up in the google home app, impressive).
-My next step is to see if I can cast to the device and keep assistant around in the background. I know this will be the most challenging part because of the following:
1. Audio to both bluetooth and TV speakers or maybe I can use a wired speaker for when the TV is off. I'd like to be able to do this all without getting up to fix anything. Will see.
2. Google assistant popping up in front off chromecast app, I'm not sure if I can somehow address this and ask assistant to bring app to front. Maybe impossible and Ill have to use a bluetooth remote.
Input thoughts on this project?

I guess no one cares about this, the state of device obsolescence is so high that a new device is what everyone wants instead of looking for fixes and uses for old devices. Everyone rather move on and move up to something new, easier & better. XDA used to be full of mods, hacks and tricks to use old tech, NO MORE! Everyone seems to be falling for big tech BIG deception. Is it really this bad? Are we all just going to stab mother nature in the back just because we rather have something new, & throw away something old?
Enough of the rant: I got this working and its better then I could imagine. The unitek smart phone dock is great for the S4. Google assistant works via the hacks and keeps connected to my bluetooth speaker despite the tv turning on. The logitech keyboard also works via OTG perfectly. So I can keep assistant working and all I need to do is run allcast or airpin and the audio will continue through bluetooth up until I turn bluetooth off. I like that cuz all I need to do is disconnect bluetooth and TV (hdmi) takes over audio. One thing I noticed is that airpin will not work but allcast does fine, ill have to figure out why airplay does not work but I do know the difference between allcast and airpin is that chromecast is a handoff and airplay is not, so it could just need an update. I could also easily turn this into a android tv with a launcher swap and a few tv apps, but for now I prefer chromecast type device.
The best thing about this is that once I'm done using the cast features I can go right back to it being a google assistant without skipping a beat which I was concerned would cause some kinda hickup with the daydream screen function & MHL. I figured I might need something like screen standby (see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934495) but I actually did not, which is a big surprise. The screen just goes off when MHL is used and back on (including daydream function) when tv turns off.
Anyway that's a wrap on this project 100% success. If anyone has any questions let me know I'll try to help.

No one interested.. YIKES..

This sounds interesting but if I need an additional accessory, its not really worth it cuz a chromecast literally costs 35 bucks.
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Also, this looks interesting.
https://www.howtogeek.com/307267/ho...io-from-only-a-specific-app-on-the-galaxy-s8/
If we can port that over to our device, then we can assign google assistant to the bluetooth speaker and every other sound should come out from the tv.

Google home app
Yes, Airscreen is the real deal and the only store app I've found that actually does work with Google on my old s5 android to stream from new note9 android. so I bought the cheap premium monthly subscription. However I can't get it to show in the home app, just in Google play and YouTube.