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Hi,
Pls pardon my noob questions...
I just gotten my 3T about a week now and after spending over 3 days setting up everything from scratch (eg installing numerous apps and configuring them one by one, setup emails, sms, contacts, icons packs, settings, etc) and finally gotten the phone to a state where I am very satisfied, a question dawn on me - How can I do a full image backup so that if anything happens, I can do a full image recovery and get back the "perfect" state?
After doing so much reading, it seemed the full image backup is called a "nandroid" backup and I need to first unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP in-order to perform this backup. But my predicament is, if I proceed to unlock bootloader, then all my configurations, setups and data will be wiped. So it became a chicken and egg scenario.
And the 2nd problem is that, worst comes to worst I decide to bite the bullet and proceed with unlocking and flashing TWRP, when booting into TWRP can I select "read only" and not agree with modified system since I have no intention to root. Will this cause boot loop problem if it is "read only"?
Can "read only" state in TWRP allows me to perform nandroid backup and restoration later on?
May I skip the next step of flashing anti dm verity file / root? I don't really want to go root since I am very happy with stock OOS at the moment.
So the big question is, is there anyway out there in the universe where I can do as close as possible to a nandroid backup without going bootloader unlocking route as that is not an option for me as I can't afford to have all the data, settings and configurations wiped. I heard about Helium app which can backup app data but that's about it. Everything else has to be setup from scratch.
Zegnalabel said:
Hi,
Pls pardon my noob questions...
I just gotten my 3T about a week now and after spending over 3 days setting up everything from scratch (eg installing numerous apps and configuring them one by one, setup emails, sms, contacts, icons packs, settings, etc) and finally gotten the phone to a state where I am very satisfied, a question dawn on me - How can I do a full image backup so that if anything happens, I can do a full image recovery and get back the "perfect" state?
After doing so much reading, it seemed the full image backup is called a "nandroid" backup and I need to first unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP in-order to perform this backup. But my predicament is, if I proceed to unlock bootloader, then all my configurations, setups and data will be wiped. So it became a chicken and egg scenario.
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Yes, a Nandroid backup is what you want, and yes, you need an unlocked bootloader for that, and yes, you need to wipe your data to do that. That's why it's highly recommended that unlocking your bootloader is the first thing you do as soon as you get your phone (though that's obviously too late for you). To help ease the pain, you can do an adb backup as described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678239. This will preserve most but not all of your stuff, and doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Once you do that, you can unlock the bootloader, restore the adb backup, then take a nandroid backup.
Zegnalabel said:
And the 2nd problem is that, worst comes to worst I decide to bite the bullet and proceed with unlocking and flashing TWRP, when booting into TWRP can I select "read only" and not agree with modified system since I have no intention to root. Will this cause boot loop problem if it is "read only"?
Can "read only" state in TWRP allows me to perform nandroid backup and restoration later on?
May I skip the next step of flashing anti dm verity file / root? I don't really want to go root since I am very happy with stock OOS at the moment.
So the big question is, is there anyway out there in the universe where I can do as close as possible to a nandroid backup without going bootloader unlocking route as that is not an option for me as I can't afford to have all the data, settings and configurations wiped. I heard about Helium app which can backup app data but that's about it. Everything else has to be setup from scratch.
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Yes, you should mount /system read-only. You don't need to root or disable dm-verity as long as you do that. (By the way, Helium is pretty much just a nice wrapper around adb backup.)
josephcsible said:
Yes, a Nandroid backup is what you want, and yes, you need an unlocked bootloader for that, and yes, you need to wipe your data to do that. That's why it's highly recommended that unlocking your bootloader is the first thing you do as soon as you get your phone (though that's obviously too late for you). To help ease the pain, you can do an adb backup as described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678239. This will preserve most but not all of your stuff, and doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Once you do that, you can unlock the bootloader, restore the adb backup, then take a nandroid backup.
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Many thanks Joseph for your advice! I really appreciate it! You're totally right, I'll do an adb backup followed by bootloader unlocking and TWRP installation. :good:
Yes, you should mount /system read-only. You don't need to root or disable dm-verity as long as you do that. (By the way, Helium is pretty much just a nice wrapper around adb backup.)
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May I further check with you what are the limitation bring about when choosing "read only" when first enter TWRP? As in won't be able to flash ROM, flash supersu, etc thereafter?
Once again, thanks for your help, Joseph!
Zegnalabel said:
May I further check with you what are the limitation bring about when choosing "read only" when first enter TWRP? As in won't be able to flash ROM, flash supersu, etc thereafter?
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All it means is that you won't be able to modify /system with file manager or the shell. Flashable zips almost all contain code that remounts /system read-write (as the TWRP screen warns you about). Also, you can always change your mind and make it read-write later (though the reverse is not true; once you mount it read-write, putting it back to read-only doesn't fix anything unless you reflash the ROM).
Many thanks Joseph for your sound advice.
After taking some time to read through all the links and sub-links getting to know the varied means of backups available, I have decided that my backup strategy will be as follows since non of the methods offer comprehensive backup and a mixed of the lots will be required to get as fool-proof as possible, before embarking on a data wiping journey with bootloader unlocking.
(i) I first perform a backup using google native backup and restore function under setting no matter how limited it is, to be use as a safety net.
(ii) Next, adb backup. The limitation with adb backup is that since Android 6.0, it obeys AndroidManifest.xml and will not backup data of those apps which has android:allowBackup set to false. The challenge is, I will be held in the dark which app falls into this category when performing adb backup and won't know until after I had done the actual restoration. Its like a blackbox you won't know what you gonna face until the aftermath had hit. Therefore to get around this, I'll be using Helium app (a wrapper around adb backup) instead of the actual adb backup since both methods refer to AndroidManifest.xml when deciding which app data it can or cannot backup. And Helium shows exactly which app it can backup vs that which it can't. Good info there for a start.
After installing Helium and activating it via PC client, I found out it does backup:
A) SMS and call logs
B) User dictionary
C) Accounts
D) Bunch of apps and their data
List of apps and data it can't backup:
1) Contacts
2) browser bookmarks
3) Calender
4) System settings
5) APNs
6) Homescreen shortcuts
7) Widgets
8) Alarms
9) Photos
10) Music
11) Videos
12) MMS
13) Google AUTHENTICATOR!!! - I have over 15 profiles that I'll have to re-setup one by one... what a nightmare.
14) Line
15) Whatsapp
16) wechat
17) Signal
18) Nova launcher - luckily its setting can be exported and backup via the app's functionality.
19) QQMusic - all my thousands of songs! - even if I back this up manually using ES explorer the app's internal linkage between playlist to songs will be broken. Will have to re-download all the songs to repair linkage and this means wasting another month of subscription fees for songs re-download. This is one of the most problematic app but it has DTS plagin which makes your music sound fantastic even with cheap earpiece, so I am putting up with it.
20) Skype - not much chat in there so that's fine to start over.
(iii) After backing up the limited stuff using Helium, I shall proceed to use another app to backup (1) to (12). And that app will be "MyBackup" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup&hl=en). The app developer confirmed in its app's features that (1) to (12) are supported. Note "MyBackup" does not backup any app data at all when device is not rooted therefore step one using Helium is still necessary.
(iv) Next, to circumvent the limitation with failure to backup app & data for (13) to (20), my initial thought were to patch each app's manifest using this method (https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/guide-how-to-enable-adb-backup-app-t3495117). But then, as I studied further, I realized another chicken and egg scenario. That is, the decompiling, editing, recompiling and signing of the patched apk would need to take place first before using the app and not after. So in another word this method with each newly patched app will not seemlessly replace the existing app but rather the existing app will first have to be uninstall before the patched app can be installed, and that very act would mean losing existing data altogether.
To install on android the patched apk, you must first uninstall your previous version, and this is because the key used to sign the apk is different. If you try to install one app itself with a different signing key, you will get this error: [INSTALL_FAILED_ALREADY_EXISTS] [Unquote]
Given this ****ty situation, I guess I am still hesitant and not ready to move forward with bootloader unlocking. Sigh...
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[How to Root] (Magisk) Huawei Mate S Android 6- EMUI 4.01 "Marshmallow" (free device)
[How to Root] (Magisk) Huawei Mate S Android 6 -
EMUI 4.01 "Marshmallow"
"free devices" B390
Test device:
Model Huawei Mate S CRR-L09
Build number CRR-L09C432B390
System version CRR-L09C900B390
free device
Quick Setup:
You've been in good shape for ages with Mate S. That's why I'm not going into detail here.
Newcomers can read in themselves here in the forum.
Prerequisite for Magisk Rooting is:
TWRP 3.0.2 (carrera3. img)
Firmware B390
OEM and FRP unlock
OEM unlocking and USB debugging active.
Fresh TWRP backup on the ExtSd.
If there is a SuperSu root, uninstall the SU App
and the unSu. zip in TWRP flash.
First of all, you need a kernel suitable for Magisk. (boot partition)
Download and unpack the included
2017-10-19-Mate-S_B390.M-Kernel. rar. The folder
2017-10-19-Mate-S_B390.M-kernel copy it to the TWRP backup directory.
Where your previous backups are.
Then restore the kernel backup (boot) to TWRP.
Now use the Magisk-v14.0. zip to root.
After rebooting, install MagiskManager-v5.3.0.apk and update if necessary.
Now you can install the desired Magisk modules in TWRP by zip-flash.
But always install the appropriate apk first.
If you need the "green" SafetyNet status, you have to do without Xposed.
After Xposed installation, the first reboot takes between 10 and 20 minutes.
Do not install Xposed as Magisk module.
The BusyBox module should be installed.
AdblockPlus is ingenious.
Now, that was the quick start guide.
I give support at any time, but not via PN. Everybody's supposed to benefit.
I wish you all the best in the rooting.
Many thanks for Magisk to: @topjohnwu,
@phhusson, @Chainfire, @nkk71, @osm0sis, @Captain_Throwback, @Didgeridoohan, @jenslody, @digitalhigh and @DVDandroid
and of course @Tecalote, without him I wouldn't do all this at all.
NOTE: Despite careful elaboration, I cannot guarantee that no damage to the device or operating system will be caused by the execution of this manual and therefore I assume no liability for any damage or malfunction of the hardware and software! If you are still unsure, follow these steps: Follow the instructions only if you or your device is subject to any conditions (model number, Android version, etc.). Read the instructions carefully and completely, look up unknown terms, check downloaded files for viruses. Make a backup of important settings and data. Do not follow the instructions if you do not know what you are doing.
RETIRED! No longer supported or being developed. @Giovix92 is now the lead dev, please use his TWRP for full compatibility with modern kernels/ROM's - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/development/recovery-twrp-3-3-1-0-tissot-manager-t3976117
Old thread below:
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About
This is a TWRP Installer ZIP and bootable IMG with extra capability such as Treble-izing, Dual boot repartitioning and other power-user tools with integrated Aroma Installer-powered GUI screens that I call Tissot Manager.
HIGHLY recommended reading and guide for everyone new to Treble - [TREBLE][GUIDE] From Stock to Treble - everything you need to know!. It also has some general protips hidden within there, for example the seamless/slot system interactions and nuances, so it's worth reading for anyone who wants to be a master of the Android flashing domain
Features:
TWRP fully Treble-ready with dual-boot ROM patcher;
Maintained with latest TWRP version;
Fully compatible with non-Treble devices - can be used as normal without Treble partitioning;
USB-OTG fixed
Has 'TWRP survival' function for automatically re-installing TWRP recovery when installing ROMs and kernels;
Option to install a payload ROM in the current slot, rather than the inactive one;
Option to ignore Payload<>Recovery certificate failures (fix for newer LOS-based ROMs);
Adds a "Tissot Manager" Aroma GUI to TWRP Advanced Menu (bottom-right button), which is the tool used to repartition the device for Treble and Dual boot, as well as some other nifty stuff:
Has the option to shrink System OR Userdata to create Vendor partitions. All relevant partitions will be resized and formatted in one go.
If you shrink System, you will keep max size Userdata - however it will be incompatible with non-Treble ROM's (they will crash on installing with Error 28 due to System being too small). It will Erase system, requiring you to reinstall a ROM or restore a ROM backup.
If you shrink Userdata, it will ERASE DATA AND INTERNAL STORAGE COMPLETELY - but your device will stay compatible with all existing non-Treble ROM's
Dual boot requires Userdata shrink and works by splitting into userdata_a and userdata_b. The partition split size is customizable during the repartition process.
Adds a "Patches" section with the following current options:
Patch the current Vendor for dual-boot capability (only required if automatic patching wasn't possible). See the 'About Dual-boot' section below for more information.
Enable an insecure ADBD on boot for the current slot (i.e. enable debugging and remove authentication requirement). Useful for ROM hackers/porters.
Patch the current slot to enable/disable forced userdata encryption
All of this info is detailed inside the Tissot Manager GUI.
See screenshots in post 2.
Instructions
Optionally boot the boot-recovery.img to get a temporary TWRP if you don't have it installed, unzipped from TWRP-boot.img-3.2.1-with-Tissot-Manager-x.x.zip:
Code:
fastboot boot boot-recovery.img
Warning - do not EVER flash this img - hotboot it only.
Flash the TWRP Installer. Any slot, any ROM, any existing Recovery - it doesn't matter - it will be installed to both slot kernels.
Reboot Recovery
Optional - Use the "Advanced > Tissot Manager" option for repartition options and other advanced ROM patches (Aroma Installer powered GUI - a fully guided and interactive process).
If you opted to repartition for Treble, you are ready to flash a Treble ROM/Vendor pack. Reminder - check out my full guide for learning and instructions on all things Treble.
About TWRP survival
TWRP survival is a simple hook that detects if a boot.img will be installed and restores TWRP after it's flashed. This only works if you have booted TWRP with Tissot Manager 2.0 from a real recovery boot - NOT from a recovery 'hot boot' (fastboot boot method).
You will see in the install log if a TWRP survival attempt is successful in the flash text output.
Automatic TWRP survival works when:
Flashing a ROM ZIP (or AIO) with TWRP
Flashing a boot.img in TWRP "Install Image" mode
Automatic TWRP survival does NOT work when:
Flashing a boot.img via fastboot
Restoring boot in a TWRP backup
Any other way of flashing a boot.img
In these cases, be sure the use the TWRP Installer immediately after flashing or restoring a backup - otherwise you may get the device into a confused state (especially if you restore a non-TWRP boot then try to install an AIO ROM without installing a new TWRP first).
About Dual-boot
Dual-boot on this device is relatively simple. As you know we have Slots - boot_a and _b, system_a and _b and vendor_a and _b (for Treble). This repartition splits userdata into userdata_a and _b too. You can simply change your Slot in TWRP reboot menu to change which ROM to boot.
This is designed for developers and testers - NOT for daily use. There are some significant issues with dual boot systems:
Any kind of security lock (PIN, fingerprint, etc.) set on one ROM will cause the other ROM to believe it has security too, but constantly fail with unlocking. This is reportedly because security info is stored on persist, which is shared between each slot (and not compatible with differing ROM's).
Because Userdata is split, so is Internal Storage. In TWRP, when changing slots, the MTP will remain mounted to the old slot - it must be manually disabled and renabled (Mounts menu) to update to the new slot.
I will not fix these issues - dual-boot is not designed to be for general/daily use and there may be more minor issues that I don't know about. It's intended for developers only.
In order for a ROM to be dual-boot compatible, the fstab file (information given to Android about partitions to mount) needs a small modification. This TWRP can try to do this patching automatically when you install a ROM, or it can be done manually in Tissot Manager's Patches menu (as well as single-boot patch to e.g. revert a ROM backup from a dual-boot state).
You will see in the install log if a dual-boot patch attempt is successful in the flash text output.
Automatic dual-boot patch occurs only if necessary when:
Flashing an AIO Treble ROM ZIP with TWRP
Flashing a vendor.img in TWRP "Install Image" mode
Automatic dual-boot patch does NOT work when:
Flashing a vendor.img via fastboot
Restoring vendor in a TWRP backup
Any other way of flashing a vendor
In any of these cases, you can manually patch Vendor for Dual Boot in Tissot Manager's Patches menu. You can also remove dualboot support the same way. It will detect the dualboot state of the current Vendor slot and present the available option. If you find that it doesn't actually change after patching, the Vendor is incompatible (please report it to me). RR AIO Vendor is tested OK.
Download
All downloads (and source code) always at:
https://github.com/CosmicDan-Android/android_device_xiaomi_tissot/releases
...or via DevBB Downloads section.
Additional sources not able to be listed in DevBB:
Modified update_engine: https://github.com/CosmicDan-Android/android_system_update_engine_tissotmanager-mod
What's next?
See [TREBLE][GUIDE] From Stock to Treble - everything you need to know! for detailed instructions and learning on how to Treble like a pro.
FAQ
Q) After I flash TWRP, I get kicked into a Recovery loop when trying to boot the ROM!
A) This is probably because you have a kernel that does not disable dm-verity. To fix this, flash Magisk. The void kernel included in RR AIO does not have this problem and can therefore be safely used without Magisk (for e.g. GSI compatibility).
Q) After I flash TWRP, I get kicked into fastboot when trying to boot the ROM!
A) Your kernel is not Treble-compatible.
Q) How do I update TWRP?
A) Just flash the ZIP installer again, then Reboot Recovery. Note that this will erase Magisk on BOTH slots if you have it installed to either, requiring you to reflash it to one/both slots. See my Treble guide FAQ section for more info on Magisk interaction.
Q) My PC can't see the MTP (storage) device from TWRP!
A) For dualboot compatibility, MTP is automatically disabled at various points. Just enable it manually in the Mounts menu to get access.
Q) If I shrink Userdata for Treble, will stock and OTA work?
A) I have heard varying results on this. It does for some, not for others. Please assume that this will NOT work. It will definitely not work if you have shrunk system.
Q) Can I restore a non-Treble TWRP backup after I repartition for Treble? And the other way around?
A) Yes! In fact, this is the easiest way for...
...using stock ROM on Treble repartition (requires Userdata shrink ONLY). May also require a custom kernel with dm-verity disabled (see Questions above regarding fastboot kick and recovery loop).
...using a non-treble ROM if you shrunk System instead of Userdata since you cannot install non-Treble ROM ZIPs with a shrunk System (see next Q)
Q) I get some Error 28 when trying to install a ROM when repartitioned
A) You have shrunk System and are trying to install a non-Treble ROM. This is not possible AT ALL because the ROM ZIP expects a stock-size System. Use Userdata shrink mode instead if you want to be able to use non-Treble ROM's easily.
Q) I see "Failed to mount '/system' (Device or resource busy)" red error in TWRP after flashing a ROM
A) You can safely ignore it. You just need to reboot recovery before you can flash anything else (like Gapps) to this ROM.
Credits and Thanks
- @mohancm for the original TWRP port, I used some flags from his DT
- @ghpranav and @mountaserhalak for the RR device tree that this is built with (and random help)
XDA:DevDB Information
TWRP with Tissot Manager (Treble & Dual boot support), Tool/Utility for the Xiaomi Mi A1
Contributors
CosmicDan
Source Code: https://github.com/CosmicDan-Android/android_device_xiaomi_tissot
Version Information
Status: Stable
Created 2018-05-29
Last Updated 2019-11-24
Reserved
Screenshots (click for slightly larger non-cropped version)
Screenshot of new TWRP button:
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Main menu (stock partition map detected):
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Repartition choice type when coming from stock:
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Repartition wipe warning/disclaimer if chosing to shrink Userdata for Treble:
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Main menu (Shrunk Userdata type Treble partition map detected):
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Repartition wipe warning/disclaimer if chosing to restore Stock from Shrunk Userdata Treble mode:
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Example of Repartition processing screen:
Good job! :good:
Nice work!
Did you tested treble roms with this? Aex now have treble support
Omg, you are the best man. @mohancm also huge thanks to u man, great devs in our XDA.
I have never seen this kind of detailed, kind guide in XDA. You guys are awesome! Thanks for all this work!
One question : If I choose to shrink /userdata instead of /system,
1. Will I be able to flash stock rom by using MiFlash?
2. If I can, will I be able to get OTA and install them w/o issues?
3. Can I restore a TWRP backup that was made before repartitioning?(because of data on /data)
I think lots of people will be wondering about #3. If you think so too, then please add it in OP!
Thanks to all of you devs again!
Chikoow1 said:
Nice work!
Did you tested treble roms with this? Aex now have treble support
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This is just the repartition part, one step of Treble. You still need a Vendor pack. But yes, this enables Treble ROMs and the ROMs require repartition.
ddaggebi said:
I have never seen this kind of detailed, kind guide in XDA. You guys are awesome! Thanks for all this work!
One question : If I choose to shrink /userdata instead of /system,
1. Will I be able to flash stock rom by using MiFlash?
2. If I can, will I be able to get OTA and install them w/o issues?
3. Can I restore a TWRP backup that was made before repartitioning?(because of data on /data)
I think lots of people will be wondering about #3. If you think so too, then please add it in OP!
Thanks to all of you devs again!
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1. If you do, it will wipe partition map back to stock. So you will need to repartition with Treble Manager TWRP again. But you can make a backup of stock ROM in TWRP and just restore it after the repartition. It should work.
2. Don't know. Needs testing.
3. Yes! I forgot to add this to the FAQ.
Has this tpwr f2fs support and working?
Since Los support It i would like ti have
@CosmicDan
Thank you so much for your effort. I'm currently on stock and want to retain stock compatibility, so I'm going to wait until this becomes more polished before trying. I understand that Treble is not meant to be compatible with stock, so I realize my question might be out of place. Still, my question is:
Will you also release the .img file for Treble TWRP for those of us who don't want a permanent custom recovery?
Filip013;76586434 [user=1844875 said:
@CosmicDan[/user]
Thank you so much for your effort. I'm currently on stock and want to retain stock compatibility, so I'm going to wait until this becomes more polished before trying. I understand that Treble is not meant to be compatible with stock, so I realize my question might be out of place. Still, my question is:
Will you also release the .img file for Treble TWRP for those of us who don't want a permanent custom recovery?
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It's indeed not intended to be compatible with stock ROM, but your mileage may vary, and as @CosmicDan said, it might work good enough or it won't. You can only try to see the results yourself.
This whole Treble thing is meant mainly for custom ROMS, since stock will never be Treble compatible (still, anything could happen)
I've just updated the TWRP with Treble Manager to 1.1 which fixed a semi-important bug.
Also, I've released a guide for those who find the Treble conversion/install process confusing - check it out. If you can, keep TWRP and Treble Manager specific questions in this thread, but ask your general questions and help over there - I will update the guide as I get feedback
CosmicDan said:
FAQ
Q) If I shrink Userdata for Treble, will stock and OTA work?
A) Untested. Please report your results. But Treble is really not about Stock, you will likely encounter more problems down the line or it may turn out to be completely incompatible.
Q) Can I restore a non-Treble TWRP backup after I repartition for Treble? And the other way around?
A) Yes! In fact, this is the easiest/only way for...
...using stock ROM on Treble repartition (requires Userdata shrink ONLY). May also require a custom kernel with dm-verity disabled (untested - if you get bootloop when using stock, it means you do) or Magisk (also untested, may still get bootloop).
...using a non-treble ROM if you shrunk System instead of Userdata since you cannot install non-Treble ZIP's on ROM's with a shrunk Userdata (see next Q)
Q) I get some Error 28 when trying to install a ROM when repartitioned
A) You have shrunk System and are trying to install a non-Treble ROM. This is not possible AT ALL because the ROM ZIP expects a stock-size System. Use Userdata shrink mode instead if you want to be able to use non-Treble ROM's easily.
Q) I see "Unable to mount '/vendor' (Invalid argument)" red error in this TWRP
A) You can safely ignore it. It just means you have not repartitioned your device for Treble yet, so it can't mount the /vendor image.
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Ay!
Have just finished testing about OTA on stock after Treblizing!
Result?!?
OTA works perfectly on stock after shrinking data to Treblize! Hurrah! ???
Process I followed:
1) Treblize by shrinking data
2) This is important: flash stock ROM in fastboot using MiFlash! When flashing for the first time, select "clean all and lock"! No other standard options working! I couldn't even boot stock using other options!
I've tested by fastboot flashing April build and then updating it to May OTA!
*** On a note: clean all will erase everything on your phone including your personal data!
If you use "save user data" then stock can't even boot! This may caused by the encryption!
BTW, after everything I just restored my non-Treble RR backup and everything works perfect! Just Treble Check app can't check that it's Treblized!
But don't worry! Treble partition table still remains! Fastboot flash can't touch that and can't recognize that it actually exists! Which to me is a good thing!
@CosmicDan, give me a thanks buddy! I deserve this!
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Don't quote the whole OP and please use a smaller font size.
Change slot doesn't work... Others are okay as far as i have seen
dback31 said:
Don't quote the whole OP and please use a smaller font size.
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Just thought it's too important to highlight! Nothing else!
Rakibboss said:
Change slot doesn't work... Others are okay as far as i have seen
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Reboot to fastboot and change the slots with
fastboot set_active b
Rakibboss said:
Change slot doesn't work... Others are okay as far as i have seen
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Use the latest TWRP 1.1! Works fine for me!
SomratMJX said:
Just thought it's too important to highlight! Nothing else!
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Then please atleast remove the OP quote. It's a pain for mobile users to scroll through this
dback31 said:
Then please atleast remove the OP quote. It's a pain for mobile users to scroll through this
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Ha ha ha! It's related to OP buddy!
Anyways, I am too lazy to quote a certain part of the OP!
I would like to keep everything else the same on my phone.
- I don't know if that means I'll have to backup/reinstall everything, if that happens automatically, or what.
- I have the following installed: TWRP 3.4.0.0, Titanium Backup Pro, Frija, Odin, ADB (?)
I currently have "ALEXNDR.N960FXXU6FTJ5" that I got here (based on Android 10)
I think it was from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ase-v7-4-dex-gear-encryption-support.3847061/
If I want to follow those instructions, should I:
1) do a complete TWRP backup *first*?
2) follow the instructions to update the ROM
3) then restore from Titanium Backup?
As I understand it, the TWRP backup is *ONLY* if I want to restore the entire "disk image" and revert back to the ROM I have now, right?
You can use TWRP restore only if you mess something while flashing kernels, magisk modules, Xposed modules, etc .. it is also useful in your first OEM unlock to preserve vendor and ODM images so that you won't have to flash stock ROM again if something go wrong.
If you are asking about restoring apps, SMS and call logs, I highly recommend swift backup. Not for settings though. Personally, I stopped using titanium backup years ago since it is deprecated and last update was in 2019.
Would it be possible to backup different images from different GSI ROMs to be able to test and restore each one without losing all the apps, configuration, etc. in the process.
For example:
1. Install "GSI name1" configure it, install apps, my Google account, etc.
2. Somehow, make a backup of the required partitions "backup name1" (At the computer?)
3. Install "GSI name2" configure it, install apps, my Google account, etc. (Not necessarily the same apps than before).
4. Somehow make a backup of the required partitions "backup name2".
5. Continue testing other GSI or restoring one of the previous ones from the backups and be able to use the phone as it was before, including apps, configuration, etc.
I can imagine two ways to face this task:
A. Using a custom recovery to backup partitions to SD card.
B. Using fastboot or mtk_client to backup partitions to the PC.
Would be easy? Possible? Not recommendable for some reason?
I am new on this flashing-bricking-sweating-unbricking thing, so I would appreciate feedback.
Thank you!
Hi
If your goal is to test the GSIs, it's easier to use the DSU-sideloader instead of the backup.
This app enables you to dual boot.
You will be able to move back and forth between images. Even if you get into a boot loop, you can return to the original image just by rebooting.
If you have root, this app will be easier because there will be less operations.
https://github.com/VegaBobo/DSU-Sideloader
I have been taking a look to the DSU concept. It is interesting, but not what I want. Also, it requires the main ROM to be stock ROM (maybe in future is fine to use with custom ROMs).
DSU would be perfect if you want to keep romA and romB working in parallel in your daily life (for example, one for work and business and the other one for gaming and social apps).
What I want to do is to test romA for a while, move to romB for a while, if I prefer romA, reinstall it and forget about romB (literally, delete it). Maybe in few months, backup romA again and check romC for a while...
As I do not want to be swapping from one to another in daily life, it does not make sense to reserve space for having both simultaneously ready to work on the phone.
By now I have been learning about adb and recovery backup options. I need to check more during the next days, but I noticed that from Recovery, I can also use adb (it says not authorized device, but that is for not being rooted yet, I suppose). If it is possible to use adb from recovery after rooting, it would be easy to have a PC software for backing up ROMs easily (system, data and userdata partitions?).
I will keep researching about it...
The DSU does not have to be a stock rom.
It's just desirable.
Currently I have crdroid GSI as the first OS and the second OS is trying several OSs.
If you try it, you'll notice how easy it is.
Currently, TWRP does not support backup or encryption on Android 12. It is the same even if it is the official latest of other models.
I have a 128GB model, so it took too long to back up using mtkclient and I quit halfway through.
The problem is time and encryption, keep them in mind.
Currently, TWRP does not support backup or encryption on Android 12. It is the same even if it is the official latest of other models
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Well, definitely untrue now as most devices have got it sorted out with decryption, Android 12 being a pain some devices got 13 done before 12, but as of the time you wrote this post my device Motorola stylus 22 5g Qualcomm, we hadn't figured out the decryption yet but you could definitely just patch your fstab in vendor either by hand or with DFE neo, to disable the encryption and TWRP would run fine. You would just have to make that first format reboot back to recovery immediately and while it still stays the data from a fresh format flash the other handy RO2RW re zip and DFE neo. Honestly the boot times are so much better without decryption I don't think I would go back as long as I've got a password on orange fox or whatever.