Hello
A bit of a beginner question.
I am looking for an option to avoid personal data leaks to corporations (paranoid version ). It makes me uncomfortable that every single word I say or text I write is being sent to the servers, being analysed by the online algorithms, etc. I believe that a phone is a personal device, and this is not acceptable.
Which is why I am looking for a phone that would allow to clean up the bloatware and telemetry modules, by either removing them from the stock firmware, setting up restrictive firewall rules, or by installing something like LineageOS or similar.
My question is whether it is reasonable to get the new Pixel 7 (in my area it costs around $600) or would you recommend looking into other models, some chinese models, for a similar price?
I am considering Pixel, as it is known to be one of the best phones in its price range (but as I understand mostly because of the software part, which I would like to meddle with).
Thanks for your opinions!
Yes, the pixel is a great phone. Paranoid Android (privacy ROM) supports it. The pixel is very easy to work with.
thetraveller1 said:
Hello
A bit of a beginner question.
I am looking for an option to avoid personal data leaks to corporations (paranoid version ). It makes me uncomfortable that every single word I say or text I write is being sent to the servers, being analysed by the online algorithms, etc. I believe that a phone is a personal device, and this is not acceptable.
Which is why I am looking for a phone that would allow to clean up the bloatware and telemetry modules, by either removing them from the stock firmware, setting up restrictive firewall rules, or by installing something like LineageOS or similar.
My question is whether it is reasonable to get the new Pixel 7 (in my area it costs around $600) or would you recommend looking into other models, some chinese models, for a similar price?
I am considering Pixel, as it is known to be one of the best phones in its price range (but as I understand mostly because of the software part, which I would like to meddle with).
Thanks for your opinions!
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The Pixel is, at it's core, developed by Google (which is primarily an advertising company, which is why they have so many great "free" apps, which you pay for with your data), as is Android itself. When you buy a new Android phone, it will come preloaded with multiple proprietary Google apps, which you can not easily uninstall. If you really want a privacy oriented phone, the Pixel with a custom ROM might work. Personally, I use Lineage OS, also for the extra privacy, as it is open-source. Lineage OS does not have any Google apps installed by default, although you can install them if you wish. If you look at Lineage OS's website and click on "GET LINEAGEOS" you can see devices that are supported. Since creating a custom ROM takes time, most of the supported devices are over three years old (yes, the Pixel 7 is not officialy supported). However, certain newer devices are supported, as is my Samsung Galaxy A52 4G (2021), which I run Lineage OS on. You could get the Pixel 7 and run this unofficial build of Lineage OS on it, but if your only getting it because the camera software is good, don't, because your going to remove that software and replace it. Another thing to keep in mind is sometimes the camera support isn't really great with custom ROMs, so do you research to make sure the phone you get has good camera support with whatever ROM you choose. Lineage OS did just develop a much better camera app for it's 20th release, though. Hope this helps, and if you have any questions let me know!
Hi, =)
if privacy is a concern for you, using a Google Pixel device may not be the best option as Google is known to collect user data for targeted advertising and other purposes. You may want to consider other options that prioritize privacy such as phones running on the Android-based LineageOS, or the privacy-focused /e/OS, or a device from a vendor known to prioritize privacy, such as Fairphone or Purism. You may also want to consider alternative operating systems such as iOS or Ubuntu Touch. Ultimately, the best option for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences, so consider your budget and requirements before making a decision.
If you want a device that protects your privacy out of the box with no modification, the Pixel series is not for you. In fact I'm not aware of any OEM Android device that is privacy oriented - Google services by nature depend largely on telemetry and user data for targeted advertising.
That being said, if you want a platform that can easily support a privacy oriented OS, the Pixel is honestly one of the best choices, due to the ease of which you can unlock the bootloader and flash a new OS such as LineageOS, CalyxOS, or others. This means you'll need to familiarize yourself with the concepts of ADB, flashing, bootloaders, etc.
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Hi, =)
if privacy is a concern for you, using a Google Pixel device may not be the best option as Google is known to collect user data for targeted advertising and other purposes. You may want to consider other options that prioritize privacy such as phones running on the Android-based LineageOS, or the privacy-focused /e/OS, or a device from a vendor known to prioritize privacy, such as Fairphone or Purism. You may also want to consider alternative operating systems such as iOS or Ubuntu Touch. Ultimately, the best option for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences, so consider your budget and requirements before making a decision.
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I happen to have the Librem 5 phone, developed by Purism. Frankly, although it is extremely security and privacy oriented, it currently has many downfalls: high price (starts at $1,999), not many apps (Linux smartphones are pretty new), and the battery lasts less than 24 hours on a full charge (due to not having a good suspend mode, I assume)
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If you want a device that protects your privacy out of the box with no modification, the Pixel series is not for you. In fact I'm not aware of any OEM Android device that is privacy oriented - Google services by nature depend largely on telemetry and user data for targeted advertising.
That being said, if you want a platform that can easily support a privacy oriented OS, the Pixel is honestly one of the best choices, due to the ease of which you can unlock the bootloader and flash a new OS such as LineageOS, CalyxOS, or others. This means you'll need to familiarize yourself with the concepts of ADB, flashing, bootloaders, etc.
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Lmao remember “freedom phone” what a joke.
I wonder if even a rooted android phone will not give away all kinds of info. Some roms I presume will mitigate that somewhat, but I feel you are tracked everywhere you go in this world. How about a decent burner or 3? Use it for a week or so then destroy it. And then buy a pixel 7 for the features when you don't care who's looking. And don't forget your paid (forget free) VPN.
@thetraveller1 flash Graphene, relock the bootloader, and you'll basically have state of the art privacy and security on your Pixel 7.
GrapheneOS: the private and secure mobile OS
GrapheneOS is a security and privacy focused mobile OS with Android app compatibility.
grapheneos.org
Thanks everybody for the replies!
As I understand, Pixel remains the most widely supported device by various Custom ROMs, and getting a Chinese smartphone or Samsung would mean I would be limiting the choice of the available/pre-built ROMs as well as future support with security patches?
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You could get the Pixel 7 and run this unofficial build of Lineage OS on it, but if your only getting it because the camera software is good, don't, because your going to remove that software and replace it
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I understand that unofficial means it wasn't built by the LineageOS team, rather by a 3rd party. And it probably means that some functionality may be missing/not working and it's not promised to be getting regular updates as new versions of Android come out (including applying official google security updates) unless I learn to make firmware builds myself?
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Thanks everybody for the replies!
As I understand, Pixel remains the most widely supported device by various Custom ROMs, and getting a Chinese smartphone or Samsung would mean I would be limiting the choice of the available/pre-built ROMs as well as future support with security patches?
I understand that unofficial means it wasn't built by the LineageOS team, rather by a 3rd party. And it probably means that some functionality may be missing/not working and it's not promised to be getting regular updates as new versions of Android come out (including applying official google security updates) unless I learn to make firmware builds myself?
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One of the reasons people use custom ROMs is because they often support devices longer then the stock ROM. For example, a device that was only supported by the manufacture till Android 11 could be running a custom ROM on Android 13. Lineage OS official builds get weekly updates; unofficial builds typically still get updates, but not as often. In either case, it is up to the individual that developed the build to provide support, and the more popular a build is, the more likely it is that it will be supported for many years. To answer your questions: no, getting a non-google phone will not necessarily limit custom ROM options, or updates; and getting an unofficial build doesn't mean it wont get updates, but installing updates on unofficial builds requires flashing the new builds manually, which can be a hassle.
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Thanks everybody for the replies!
As I understand, Pixel remains the most widely supported device by various Custom ROMs, and getting a Chinese smartphone or Samsung would mean I would be limiting the choice of the available/pre-built ROMs as well as future support with security patches?
I understand that unofficial means it wasn't built by the LineageOS team, rather by a 3rd party. And it probably means that some functionality may be missing/not working and it's not promised to be getting regular updates as new versions of Android come out (including applying official google security updates) unless I learn to make firmware builds myself?
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Take a look at Shizuku and the apps that use it like FreezeYou!. MySudo and Insular are another couple to check. You may find a solution without having to switch ROMs.
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So it looks things are slowly moving , and we are able to unlock bootloader and root our devices.
User @auras76 was kind enough to bring as the first ROM available, but I guess I am not the only one looking forward to get rid of EMUI and its poor customisation layer
I hope once firm .173 hits general release we start getting more dev interest, but the goal of this thread is to find out if any dev could be potentially interested (or already planning) to work on a non-EMUI ROM
I can imagine a bounty could be organised for users to support financially this action.
What are everyone's thoughts on this?
Doubt you will see much development of any major Rom's if there is not a free way to unlock your bootloader as there just won't be that many unlocked devices
I am fully aware of that, however let´s hope that changes if/when .171 FW is generally available and allows bootloader unlock.
I just wanted to check if there would be a way to attract some devs here, even by supporting their work (purchasing a device? 10$ per person???)
If you like custom ROMs so much buy a One Plus phone. Lots of custom ROMs and every custom ROM has bugs. There is no build of any custom ROM that doesn't have bugs and sometimes the bugs on "stable" versions of custom ROMs are so serious they impact the basic functionality of the phone.
If you think I'm exaggerating pick a custom ROM for the OP5, 5T, OP6 or 6T and look at the last several pages of user posts.
They will be users reporting bugs-often very serious ones.
If you pick an OP5 or 5T ROM many will no longer be in development. The last several pages before the ROM was abandoned will be users still reporting bugs that will never get fixed.
And that is on phones that are supposedly very development friendly.
The days of custom ROMs that improve a phone's functionality, speed and stability over the stock ROM died with Nexus phones but if you want to run a custom ROM anyway buying this phone makes pretty much no sense because Huawei is not developer friendly. They don't want owners of Huawei phones to unlock their bootloaders or run custom ROMs on Huawei devices. The same is true for Xiaomi and Samsung phones.
For that matter Google, the company behind Nexus phones which were the most developed friendly phones anyone could buy no longer wants people to use custom ROMs which is why they came up with the ROM certification program and safety net.
Apps that help phone owners bypass safety net are automatically banned from the Play Store. Whatever method Magisk uses to bypass Safety Net gets plugged by Google forcing the developer to come up with a new method that will stop working when it also gets plugged by Google.
The developer behind SuperSu said the writing was on the wall for original Android development several years ago and he knew what he was talking about.
Well, I thought XDA was exactly the place where people "like custom ROMS" and tinker with their phones.
I am coming exactly from OP phone so I know how scene works there.
OP phones are dev-friendly but not many people try different ROMs as Oxygen is probably the smoothest implementation layer of all manufacturers, so there is no need other to change other than fun.
But we are not talking about OP but Huawei here, which is the opposite case. Lousy software implementation, from battery management (see the Powergenie issues threads), to Huawei bloatware, notification handling, little customisation allowed.... So Huawei is not like OP but more like Xiaomi, heavily (not for good) customised Android version. And there might be not many OP ROMS, but check in Xiaomi land... many super stable versions that improve almost any Xiaomi device with AOSP or LOS versions.
As I said, maybe all it takes is to support a dev with a device for ROM release... I know I wouldn't be the only one looking forward to this.
Alright let's clear up what XDA is about.
It's a hub for developers. It's not a hub for people coming in with no knowledge demanding/posting hundreds of threads asking for ROMs for a device which is bootloader locked in most cases. Attitude like this steers developers away from devices because of noob communities. Look at the Samsung community on XDA.
Huwaei is still an infant when it comes to Android so they are learning the ins and outs of what works and what doesn't. Give em a break. They produce amazing devices with amazing technology. Just because it's locked doesn't mean you have to get your nickers in a twist because no one wants to develop for a new company on the Android scene. Give it some time. Maybe someone will come along and get the ball rolling for everyone and find a nice little backdoor in the bootloader and make it possible for everyone. Till then don't hold your breath and stamp your feet. Do your research before you flog out a grand on a device that might not have unofficial development for.
I really hope we can open this device up for more development, what could we do with unbridled access to the NPU, 3 rear cameras and the front 3d point cloud camera array
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If you like custom ROMs so much buy a One Plus phone. Lots of custom ROMs and every custom ROM has bugs. There is no build of any custom ROM that doesn't have bugs and sometimes the bugs on "stable" versions of custom ROMs are so serious they impact the basic functionality of the phone. .
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Had to pop in here to tell you you're completely wrong on that one.
Off the top of my head. No limits xXx for the OnePlus 5, not a single bug.
From Oreo 8.1 anyway.
A lot for devices have ROMs which surpass stock in more ways than one and have zero bugs
Further to my point and @ the OP.
The p20 pro has only seen ROMs because of the last few users / developers who have committed to Huawei/Honor devices and the fact that Honor view 10 ROMs work on the pro, in light of the changes made by Huawei IE: bootloader lock down, you will not see a lot of ROMs at all for your device in fact anyone who wants to root / flash / unlock their phones should not touch Huawei or Honor ever again, maybe (and that's a big maybe) the greedy pair of OEMs will see sense. But I doubt it.
Advice in short, dont buy their phones, I certainly won't ever again. They don't deserve it after what they've done.
I'm looking into getting a new phone and I really want to get a Note 9. However, everything that I see online points to the fact that apple is far better at security & privacy than android platforms are right now (especially with software updates addressing vulnerabilities). My question is, is it possible to root a Note 9 and choose a custom ROM that will offer a level of security & privacy that is on par with, or very close to, security on iOS?
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I'm looking into getting a new phone and I really want to get a Note 9. However, everything that I see online points to the fact that apple is far better at security & privacy than android platforms are right now (especially with software updates addressing vulnerabilities). My question is, is it possible to root a Note 9 and choose a custom ROM that will offer a level of security & privacy that is on par with, or very close to, security on iOS?
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Unfortunately, rooting your device does not provide more security. Rooting your device is in essence, circumventing the built in security of your device.
As far as Apple being more secure than Android, that is very debatable. And I am not just saying that because this is mostly an Android forum. In my humble opinion, the differences really are that Android tells you what apps are using your information, whereas iOS does not in full detail. Everyone keeps saying Apple is all about Privacy which is fine, but apps can still collect your information from within iOS even if you don't grant certain permission, and developers can still use your "app history" to sell you products. Huh?
Android literally collects all your sh...stuff. There's no sugar coating it. Google is a company that uses your data in return for you using their products(not physical items), for free. You can control permissions but unfortunately apps are now seeding information from other apps that have permission to that information already. So you can download an app that says it doesn't need to access anything about you or your device, because it's getting all that information from the other apps on the the device that do already.
Here's a few good reads:
Privacy Ish: https://www.symantec.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/mobile-privacy-apps
Security Ish: https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity-mobile-android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure.html
If you want less of a chance of getting your stuff stolen hack wise, go with iOS.
Privacy wise though, you're out of luck. But I guess iOS is a little more "ethical" since Apple does not utilize an open source setup with iOS. :good:
(Turns out I can't quote you because I don't have enough posts to post links, and your post had links in it)
I appreciate the response. What makes you say both that you wouldn't consider that Apple is more secure than Android while also recommending if I want to be less likely to be hacked I should go iOS? Wouldn't that recommendation imply that iOS is more secure than even a rooted Android?
There's a helpful video I found on YouTube called "Android vs iOS: Which spies on you more?" (I can't use a hyperlink because I don't have enough posts, sorry) and suggests that iOS is far better. However if I were to root my phone, wipe all google apps, I should be able to avoid the pings to Google's servers right?
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(Turns out I can't quote you because I don't have enough posts to post links, and your post had links in it)
I appreciate the response. What makes you say both that you wouldn't consider that Apple is more secure than Android while also recommending if I want to be less likely to be hacked I should go iOS? Wouldn't that recommendation imply that iOS is more secure than even a rooted Android?
There's a helpful video I found on YouTube called "Android vs iOS: Which spies on you more?" (I can't use a hyperlink because I don't have enough posts, sorry) and suggests that iOS is far better. However if I were to root my phone, wipe all google apps, I should be able to avoid the pings to Google's servers right?
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I couldn't get your message to load on the app so sorry for not responding.
I said both things because they are both "true." iOS has less vulnerabilities that we know of. Android has more vulnerabilities that we DO know of but is often classified as being less secure. It's kind of like how everyone says Mac is more secure than Windows. It's not 100% accurate because Mac is less popular, so there is a lower amount of usages in the market, so less likelyhood a Mac would get hacked or targeted.
As for the which one spies on you more, the argument could be made that Android offers more spying due to being mostly Open Source. I use that term lightly of course. iOS spies on you but as far as we know, ONLY to Apple and the apps in their App store since iOS is closed source.
Rooting the device will help you get rid of everything Google if you want, but you'll have to get your apps from other sources which WILL increase your risk of getting malware/spyware/adware/silverware...all the wares.
If you are really that concerned with privacy and security, iOS is the way to go as you only have to deal with one main evil, Apple's Appstore.
If you do decide to get the Note 9, get the international model as it has root and can be unlocked.
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
Hello jcole20
That would be awesome if some devs started doing something with the RP2! If I had the knowledge, I would!! I've had the RP2 since June of this year. I had some issues with it at first but they have been worked out. I really like the phone and it would be cool to see some devs show the RP2 some love lol. Hopefully you can get something started! Take care!
Dennis
jcole20 said:
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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I am sure people would love to see some device specific development. I have read that since the release of project treble most people just flash the system image from other roms. I specifically would love to see a stockish rom so I don't loose chroma but still get updated security patches.
I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
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I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
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Most functionalities work on Pie GSIs out-of-box (you need to manually install ims.apk in order to receive SMS while on LTE, see relevant threads here, or look for it on some GSI threads such as Havoc 2.9). exFAT also works on supported GSI (with arter97's kernel), while it's not supported on stock. The only problems I have so far are bluetooth-related, and also the inability to set SELinux to permissive (not sure which might be the real cause as arter97 stated the SELinux could be permissive).
Bluetooth media audio doesn't work at all on GSI, partly due to the crippling overlays (which prevents aptX from working, and probably some other limitations). Phone calls work with a bluetooth headset, but for some reasons I couldn't properly route phone calls to my Huawei Watch 2 (which means I always have to take the call from my phone directly).
Given the mostly positive result with numerous GSIs (and that some users are happy with stock ROM, or stock-based ROM modifications), active ROM developments for the device itself doesn't seem to be at a high priority (as some might be able to contribute patches for this device to their favorite GSI instead)...
I'm currently working on my own build of LOS. I haven't seen to much active development either I'm new to rom building but looks like we could use all the help we can get!
I think the only active dev we have for this phone is Arter97's kernel and people tinkering with GSIs to get them working as they should. I wish there was more being done with the stock ROM because I like a lot of it's features, but am having a hard time dealing with it's overall instability. I'd be happy to help develop or test in whatever way I can, though.
jcole20 said:
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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Yeah, it’s definitely just total lack of interest from other devs. We even have a guy with a prototype Razer Phone 2 with an intact DRM partition and unlocked bootloader (Allowing Netflix HD and Vudu HDX) but we couldn’t even pay anyone to try to port it.
I think if we had a fully working AOSP tree that it would possibly bring other devs into the scene. Who knows though, it has never been a popular device despite how great it is.
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Most functionalities work on Pie GSIs out-of-box.
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Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
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Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
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A stock Android 10 (which means a stock vendor image for Android 10) is not necessarily required to have a usable Android 10 ROM (though it may speed up the development to some extent, if it does have one), but for GSI, having a stock Android 10 vendor image can be better (currently it's a hit-or-miss on existing Android 10 GSIs).
Another device that I have, Google Pixel C, never had stock Android 9 (so never had stock vendor images for Android 9, only for up to Android 8.1), but custom Android 9 ROMs are already available (thanks to followmsi's efforts) and are working well. For Android 9 ROMs, the build system builds new vendor images along with system image.
It's just whether we're going to see our device's trees being made possible, so we can start from there to develop our own custom ROMs. The existing materials might be a good starting point in making trees.
- Working with proprietary blobs (from Lineage)
- arter97's kernel (can be useful for making a kernel tree, though one can also consider using stock kernel source as a base)
- Razer factory images and kernel sources (for studying stock ROM/kernel details, and extracting necessary system and vendor blobs)
If you can port LineageOS to this device, great!
I don't understand why people aren't flocking to this device. I came from the LG G6 that probably will be stuck on Oreo forever that is way more popular. The RP2 is cheap, has killer specs + a micro SD card slot + a newer version of Android. Should be a developers dream, you would think. *shrug*
Not sure if anyone's active on this device at present. With RP2's 9.0 MR2 available on the official factory images page the latest proprietary blobs (as well as stock kernel source) are now publicly accessible.
Actually arter97 once mentioned that his RP2 kernel is almost inline with his OP6 kernel (which is also sdm845 and shares some similarities), so it's possible that OP6 (enchilada) trees may be a good starting point, but I'm not sure if any configurations are needed to keep 120Hz working as high refresh rate is relatively uncommon.
My time is very limited so I won't be able to dedicate too much time to experiment on this. At present most functionalities work fine with GSI (including Bluetooth, although tricky and aptX still not working).
IDK how relevant this is anymore but as a new razor phone 2 user to be soon I have been keeping up and it seems that @f(x)THaxxorX could be a possible candidate of what you're looking for I've been keeping up with development on the phone seems like he is doing pretty well even if we get patched gsi which properly work is better than nothing.
Hi folks, i need a rom that made for privacy purpose for my SM-N960F/DS Exynos, if anyone ask why for oreo or pie only! because android Q/11/12 become more closed source for example i cannot auto disable wifi for macro apps.
Privacy alone does not just depend on the, it depends on the user. To achieve the "Best" tag, you'll have to reconsider every app your phone will run.
Check every app settings, every information you're inputting, ...
One of the truly secure ROMs is GrapheneOS, follows CalyxOS. Unfortunately, it's only available on limited phones.
If you value your data so much, buy a recent Google Pixel device. Other than that, using LineageOS is your alternative.
Grapheneos and Calyxos is a big joke, why they only support google devices when we try to get off of this privacy violating company? you need to read this:
XDA member unknowingly bought a Pixel phone with an FBI backdoor
The FBI reportedly sold backdoored Pixel phones to criminals, and one of those phones found its way to an XDA member.
www.xda-developers.com
and of course i i don't trust samsung either, but it's a gift from someone and i want to put a privacy os on it, thats all.
Is there Somebody (Corporate or Government) who is taking Video of Every Inch of Earth,... 24/7/365?
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Welcome to the fking planet...
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Is there Somebody (Corporate or Government) who is taking Video of Every Inch of Earth,... 24/7/365?
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Ofcourse there is... have you heard about the big 8? There is a lot of things going on with privacy these days. I warmly recommend you to stay away from google and microsoft windows(only fi you know what you are doing when it comes to disabeling windows telemetry, aka me).
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If you are on android, don't use GOOGLE PLAY. Use alternetives to stuff:
F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device.
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Aurora Store | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
A Google Playstore Client
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With Gookill you're not the customer, you're the product.
Google is the biggest data miner and purveyors of disinformation on the planet followed closely by fb.
I keep Google play Services disabled most of the time and limit use of all Google services.
FB is PBed, they can go to hell...
Playstore... make installable copies of your playwhore apps with ApkExport so you can limit using it and have preserved working copies before the horrors of scoped storage.
blackhawk said:
With Gookill you're not the customer, you're the product.
Google is the biggest data miner and purveyors of disinformation on the planet followed closely by fb.
I keep Google play Services disabled most of the time and limit use of all Google services.
FB is PBed, they can go to hell...
Playstore... make installable copies of your playwhore apps with ApkExport so you can limit using it and have preserved working copies before the horrors of scoped storage.
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I just don't use stuff that depends on google bloatware. Use QubesOS and ARCH linux on PC with very strict tweaking and a custom kernel on ARCH, and ofcourse because why not a WIN 7 custom build with tweaked to the maxium it could be ( custom install with my best latency scores )
And as always java_script should go to hell
LastKrypton, ... No, I haven't heard of the "big 8". Please do enlighten us.
Personally, I shun anything Google / Microsoft / FB / and any other social networking crap.
My original question involves video recording, probably from space.
LAST_krypton said:
I just don't use stuff that depends on google bloatware. Use QubesOS and ARCH linux on PC with very strict tweaking and a custom kernel on ARCH, and ofcourse because why not a WIN 7 custom build with tweaked to the maxium it could be ( custom install with my best latency scores )
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I'm still using W7x64 but simply keep it off the internet. XPx64 was the best OS.
For Android since I run stock Samsung's other solutions are used
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I'm still using W7x64 but simply keep it off the internet. XPx64 was the best OS.
For Android since I run stock Samsung's other solutions are used
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Oh, so I'm not the only one who has Win7 good.... I made a custom install for my self and might make another because the tool I was useing got a update, but that would mean I would have to go through suffer with DAYS of tweaking and testing again. This custom install that I'm currently running is the best one I had yet.
I don't run stock samsung. I'm not really a big fan of ONE UI...
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I don't run stock samsung. I'm not really a big fan of ONE UI...
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I heavily optimize it and use a package disabler.
UI on my N10+ P and Q variants runs very well, better than any 3rd party launchers. Very low battery consumption, fast and rock solid stable, it never crashes. It's a good platform... earlier and latter versions not so much so.
Android 11 screwed up everything; it's a Gookill tradition, fix it until it's broke
blackhawk said:
I heavily optimize it and use a package disabler.
UI on my N10+ P and Q variants runs very well, better than any 3rd party launchers. Very low battery consumption, fast and rock solid stable, it never crashes. It's a good platform... earlier and latter versions not so much so.
Android 11 screwed up everything; it's a Gookill tradition, fix it until it's broke
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I prefer LinageOS GSI, but ofcourse screen touch issues happend on GSIs on this samsung galaxy a12
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I prefer LinageOS GSI, but ofcourse screen touch issues happend on GSIs on this samsung galaxy a12
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Just don't have the need as it runs fast, stable and is fulfilling it's mission. One of the things I do though is disable firmware updates.
The oldest 10+ hasn't been updated in close to 2 years. The current load is over a year and a half old, still fast, stable with minimum maintenance.
My most heavily used and longest lasting OS load ever. That impresses me.
blackhawk said:
Just don't have the need as it runs fast, stable and is fulfilling it's mission. One of the things I do though is disable firmware updates.
The oldest 10+ hasn't been updated in close to 2 years. The current load is over a year and a half old, still fast, stable with minimum maintenance.
My most heavily used and longest lasting OS load ever. That impresses me.
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I see the stock ROM as convenience but nothing else.
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I see the stock ROM as convenience but nothing else.
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Lots of users and eyes on the stock rom so solutions for issues are more likely to be available for things that slipped through.
It's mature and far less likely to have serious issues than raw betaware.
There's no compelling reasons for me the root a N10+ Snapdragon but many not to.
Using it vs chasing my tail trying to get it fully functional.
Mark2463 said:
LastKrypton, ... No, I haven't heard of the "big 8". Please do enlighten us.
Personally, I shun anything Google / Microsoft / FB / and any other social networking crap.
My original question involves video recording, probably from space.
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There could be a govement project that monitors satelites. And take for consideration that some countuires don't allow IMEI number to be changed and some KEY knowledge policies with encryption and etc. You can find answers for those here:
Surveillance Self-Defense
We’re the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an independent non-profit working to protect online privacy for nearly thirty years. This is Surveillance Self-Defense : our expert guide to protecting you and your friends from online spying. Read the BASICS to find out how online surveillance works...
ssd.eff.org