does root meen that the phone is also unlocked to any network ?
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how do you get round unlocking network
no root does not automatically unlock your phone, from what I've been told if you've had your phone with tmobile (assuming you're a US customer) for three months or longer you can call tmobile and request an unlock code, there are also plenty of pay services you can find on the internet for unlocking
My wife got me a unlocked galaxy s5 that was a at&t phone. I have metro pc's as a carrier and I want to be able to use Wi-Fi calling with the phone. Does anyone know a way to change it to t mobile since metro pc's uses the mobiles network. I just sent it to Samsung for repair and told them the truth which is that I got the phone unlocked. Please help. I'm only a savvy user at best.
If the phone has the AT&T marshmallow update, you should be able to use WiFi calling. You will not be able to flash the tmo firmware to the phone, if that is what you are asking. The phone is probably SIM unlocked, the bootloader is not unlocked...which would allow easy flashing.
Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.
Every single Pixel 5 sold in the US will connect to Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband. When you say unlocked do you mean bootloader unlocked or carrier unlocked? If you bought a Verizon or carrier locked P5 at BB then no matter what you do you cannot bootloader unlock. So you probably got an unlocked device (as per the price you paid) and you can both bl unlock and connect to any network. There was no need to so the wifi thing you did because you could always bl unlock a carrier unlocked device.
Of course the 4a will not work with 5G. It's not a 5G compatible phone. Once again, any 5G Pixel phone sold in the US, the P5 or the P4a 5G, will connect to UW Band Verizon network if you use them as your carrier.
Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5
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Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5
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reagan1998 said:
Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?
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You can't unlock the bootloader on any Verizon branded device since the Pixel 3
Hello,
I have just acquired a new (never used) T-Mobile Revvlry Plus XT1965-T, and it seems to be network locked. (Note: I was able to get an OEM unlock code from Motorola, haven't tried it yet, but right now I am only asking about the network lock issue.)
My goal is to install LineageOS 18.1, and use this phone with other mobile service providers in Canada.
I want to understand how to deal with the network lock, and get past it -- I have some questions...
1. If I simply follow the official instructions for installing LineageOS, will this result in a network unlocked phone?
2. If just installing LineageOS won't remove the network lock, why is that? How is the network lock implemented on this phone?
3. Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
4. If I must go through T-Mobile and use their unlock app, I assume that I had better do this before I do anything else, and once the phone is network unlocked using T-Mobile's app, then the phone will remain network unlocked after installing LineageOS, is this correct?
5. I get the impression that there are actually two different phones with the same model number XT1965-T, being the T-Mobile version and the Motorola version, is that right? What are the main differences?
Any other comments, insights, or links are also appreciated. Please keep in mind that while I am highly technical, I am not an expert on Android or smartphones.
Thanks.
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Hello,
I have just acquired a new (never used) T-Mobile Revvlry Plus XT1965-T, and it seems to be network locked. (Note: I was able to get an OEM unlock code from Motorola, haven't tried it yet, but right now I am only asking about the network lock issue.)
My goal is to install LineageOS 18.1, and use this phone with other mobile service providers in Canada.
I want to understand how to deal with the network lock, and get past it -- I have some questions...
1. If I simply follow the official instructions for installing LineageOS, will this result in a network unlocked phone?
2. If just installing LineageOS won't remove the network lock, why is that? How is the network lock implemented on this phone?
3. Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
4. If I must go through T-Mobile and use their unlock app, I assume that I had better do this before I do anything else, and once the phone is network unlocked using T-Mobile's app, then the phone will remain network unlocked after installing LineageOS, is this correct?
5. I get the impression that there are actually two different phones with the same model number XT1965-T, being the T-Mobile version and the Motorola version, is that right? What are the main differences?
Any other comments, insights, or links are also appreciated. Please keep in mind that while I am highly technical, I am not an expert on Android or smartphones.
Thanks.
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1. No, network lock is related to the carrier. If it's a TMO Revvlry+/Revvlry Plus, then it's locked to T-Mobile. This means it can't be used with another carrier essentially. Network lock again just means if a TMO sim is installed (and it's locked to TMO) it will work. If another carrier sim is installed and it's network locked, the sim won't function.
2. If the phone came from TMO, they would lock it to their system.
3. Removing the network lock allows other carriers to be used. There are pay to use services that will network unlock the device within 24 hours. Manual methods exist, but will require more in-depth knowledge. Otherwise, TMO is the one to network unlock it but could take 30 days and may require service with them.
4. Once unlocked it should remain unlocked, regardless of stock or custom ROM.
5. The TMO Revvlry+ (Revvlry Plus) and Moto G7 Plus are the same devices hardware wise. The main difference is the boot animation and logo branding. The Moto G7 Plus is also carrier unlocked.
How did you determine the phone is network locked?
Is the phone tied to a network carrier already?
What is the output from https://www.wipelock.com/iphone-carrier-checker?
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1. No, network lock is related to the carrier. If it's a TMO Revvlry+/Revvlry Plus, then it's locked to T-Mobile. This means it can't be used with another carrier essentially. Network lock again just means if a TMO sim is installed (and it's locked to TMO) it will work. If another carrier sim is installed and it's network locked, the sim won't function.
2. If the phone came from TMO, they would lock it to their system.
3. Removing the network lock allows other carriers to be used. There are pay to use services that will network unlock the device within 24 hours. Manual methods exist, but will require more in-depth knowledge. Otherwise, TMO is the one to network unlock it but could take 30 days and may require service with them.
4. Once unlocked it should remain unlocked, regardless of stock or custom ROM.
5. The TMO Revvlry+ (Revvlry Plus) and Moto G7 Plus are the same devices hardware wise. The main difference is the boot animation and logo branding. The Moto G7 Plus is also carrier unlocked.
How did you determine the phone is network locked?
Is the phone tied to a network carrier already?
What is the output from https://www.wipelock.com/iphone-carrier-checker?
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Thanks for your reply, here is some background...
I bought several of these phones on eBay, they were advertised as network unlocked Moto G7 Plus phones, but the seller instead shipped me network locked T-Mobile Revvly+ phones.
My first step was to test a SIM chip from a local mobile provider, and the phones show a message saying they are SIM locked.
The phones are clearly new and unused. The seller claims they are open-box returns.
I called T-Mobile, and T-Mobile says these phones are registered to active accounts, and they can only be unlocked if the account holder requests it. T-Mobile reps also say they are unable to identify the account holder, and offer no solution. The phones are not blacklisted or reported stolen. If I had to guess: most likely, the phones were purchased, activated, and returned to the store, but the T-Mobile account registration was not cleared in their database.
It seems that these phones use an unlock app, rather than an unlock code, and from what I've read, it may not be possible for any third-party unlocking service to unlock these particular phones.
Getting back to my questions in my original post:
- How is the network lock implemented on this phone? (I mean this question from a technical perspective)
- Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
The network lock must be a setting somewhere in the firmware... I've heard people talk about flashing the baseband, but not being a phone expert, I don't know much about that, or if it might apply here...
So again, I am asking: is there some way to network unlock these phones, and make them usable with another service provider? Can I somehow just reflash whatever area in the phone holds the network lock setting with stock code that doesn't have the network lock setting enabled?
Thanks.
opensourceforever said:
the seller instead shipped me network locked T-Mobile Revvly+ phones.
I called T-Mobile, and T-Mobile says these phones are registered to active accounts, and they can only be unlocked if the account holder requests it. T-Mobile reps also say they are unable to identify the account holder, and offer no solution. The phones are not blacklisted or reported stolen. If I had to guess: most likely, the phones were purchased, activated, and returned to the store, but the T-Mobile account registration was not cleared in their database.
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If they are registered and active, they may have to wait out the time period from T-Mobile to be Network SIM unlocked, depending on when they were originally purchased by the original owner.
If they were returned to the store, how did the eBay seller obtain them?
It seems that these phones use an unlock app, rather than an unlock code, and from what I've read, it may not be possible for any third-party unlocking service to unlock these particular phones.
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If an unlock app is needed, this may be built into the phones firmware that only T-Mobile can use. It may still require a code to be passed to the unlock app.
Getting back to my questions in my original post:
- How is the network lock implemented on this phone? (I mean this question from a technical perspective)
- Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
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It's implemented by T-Mobile. T-Mobile is going to be your best shot. You may have to make multiple calls to get through to someone where you can explain the situation and see if they will network unlock the phone.
The network lock must be a setting somewhere in the firmware... I've heard people talk about flashing the baseband, but not being a phone expert, I don't know much about that, or if it might apply here...
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Baseband typically indicates the frequencies the phone can use to communicate with different networks. If you take a nandroid of the phone, you can always try to flash a new baseband and test. If it doesn't work, restore back.
So again, I am asking: is there some way to network unlock these phones, and make them usable with another service provider? Can I somehow just reflash whatever area in the phone holds the network lock setting with stock code that doesn't have the network lock setting enabled?
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You can try to flash the T-Mobile Revvlry+ into a Moto G7 Plus: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/revvlry-to-moto-g7-plus-conversion-guide.4136355/ That would get rid of the T-Mobile software. It's not clear if that would remove the network SIM lock, but if you take a nandroid backup, you can always revert back.
EDIT: I was doing some additional research, and flashing the modems/baseband or converting the TMO Revvlry+ to Moto G7 Plus won't affect the network SIM lock. The app is in the TMO software and you'll have to use that app with the code either TMO provides or an unlock service gives to network SIM unlock the device.
EDIT2: After booting into the phone, do you have the options in the following settings: SIM unlock phone. This link is only for info and reference: use any network provider’s SIM card in T-Mobile REVVLRY+
Hi, thank you again for your reply.
jockovonred said:
If they are registered and active, they may have to wait out the time period from T-Mobile to be Network SIM unlocked, depending on when they were originally purchased by the original owner.
If they were returned to the store, how did the eBay seller obtain them?
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As mentioned, the phones are clearly brand new and never used.
I would also like to know how the seller obtained them, unfortunately the seller is non-cooperative.
T-Mobile is also curious about how the seller obtained them.
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It's implemented by T-Mobile. T-Mobile is going to be your best shot. You may have to make multiple calls to get through to someone where you can explain the situation and see if they will network unlock the phone.
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I may try this again, but I have already spent hours talking to T-Mobile Technical Support with no progress made.
jockovonred said:
You can try to flash the T-Mobile Revvlry+ into a Moto G7 Plus: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/revvlry-to-moto-g7-plus-conversion-guide.4136355/ That would get rid of the T-Mobile software. It's not clear if that would remove the network SIM lock, but if you take a nandroid backup, you can always revert back.
EDIT: I was doing some additional research, and flashing the modems/baseband or converting the TMO Revvlry+ to Moto G7 Plus won't affect the network SIM lock. The app is in the TMO software and you'll have to use that app with the code either TMO provides or an unlock service gives to network SIM unlock the device.
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I am still not clear as to why the phones can not be unlocked by replacing certain firmware/software. The lock is a setting somewhere on the phone, why can this setting not just be manually changed/cleared?
jockovonred said:
EDIT2: After booting into the phone, do you have the options in the following settings: SIM unlock phone. This link is only for info and reference: use any network provider’s SIM card in T-Mobile REVVLRY+
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When I go to the menu: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network", all further options are grayed out.
As such, I am not able to reach the option: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network > Advanced > Network Unlock > Permanent Unlock" as shown at the link you provided.
(For reference: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...revvlry/mobile-device-unlock-t-mobile-revvlry)
Any further suggestions/advice much appreciated, I would really like to be able to make use of these phones.
opensourceforever said:
I am still not clear as to why the phones can not be unlocked by replacing certain firmware/software. The lock is a setting somewhere on the phone, why can this setting not just be manually changed/cleared?
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The app is provided via TMobile. This is not provided via software/firmware except by TMO.
Your best bet at this point is to try a pay to unlock service that will provide instructions on unlocking the SIM, if TMO is unwilling to do it.
(Modems change the baseband used by different providers so changing/updating it via firmware isn't going to unlock the SIM/Network. If you get the SIM/Network unlocked and THEN have an issue with a network carrier, flashing the correct modem for that provider would allow the SIM/Network to communicate.)
opensourceforever said:
When I go to the menu: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network", all further options are grayed out.
As such, I am not able to reach the option: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network > Advanced > Network Unlock > Permanent Unlock" as shown at the link you provided.
(For reference: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...revvlry/mobile-device-unlock-t-mobile-revvlry)
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Do have service with TMO? If not, you might try getting a SIM/Network card from them and inserting it to see if the in-phone options appear so you can unlock it. You might also try escalating the issue with TMO if you are only getting to first line technical support personnel.
The phone is obviously locked to TMO as it's a TMO phone. It's different than the Moto G7 Plus which is already unlocked for all carriers. If you can't get the phone Network/SIM unlocked, maybe return it to the eBay seller and look for the Moto G7 Plus which will give you less headaches.