Related
Hello World,
I bought a Galaxy Note 8 DUOS (two SIM cards) with 256GB internal storage and Exynos CPU - its the Hong Kong Version of the China Model from Samsung.
I tried in vain to flash European Exynos Firmware for LineageOS respectively Resurrection Remix onto it, but it just won't take (flash works fine with TWRP, but phone never gets to boot past the initial loader screen).
Now before I put back that humongous (3+GB!) Samsung HK crap onto it, I wanted to check one last time if there is or isn't a custom Firmware available for this model?
I would prefer RR, but pure LOS would also do.
Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs
Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.
Dejan Sathanas said:
Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please *not* in this patronizing tone.
You might think of yourself as the great "know it all", but your assumption that I am asking this question because I am too lazy (or too stupid) to utilize a search engine first, is truly denigrating.
And I have been an IT engineer for three decades, a Linux user for 15 and an Android user for over 5 years by now.
So I recon I already have "learned something".
charmz2k2 said:
Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went by the info that the Snapdragon is sold exclusively in the States (sorry, but the article is in German):
http://www.areamobile.de/news/43095-samsung-galaxy-s8-glaubensfrage-snapdragon-versus-exynos
And elsewhere I found the info that the Duos sold in HK is based on the Exonys.
I also "confimed" this via the device's ID number on an Asian website.
But given that I am currently not able to boot into the system (stuck @twrp), I might be assuming stuff here.
In any case, I located and tried two different custom firmwares I found on XDA for the N8 and they were all for various models of the N95xx *except* the 9500 (wasn't listed). And none worked.
I also searched for custom firmware specific to the N9500 Duos on XDA, Google and even some websites I normally wouldn't even want to download shabby videos from, but I found none.
So now I am about to flash back the stock Samsung HK firmware to it, but that would be my least favored choice.
Masinissa said:
I went by the info that the Snapdragon is sold exclusively in the States (sorry, but the article is in German):
http://www.areamobile.de/news/43095-samsung-galaxy-s8-glaubensfrage-snapdragon-versus-exynos
And elsewhere I found the info that the Duos sold in HK is based on the Exonys.
I also "confimed" this via the device's ID number on an Asian website.
But given that I am currently not able to boot into the system (stuck @twrp), I might be assuming stuff here.
In any case, I located and tried two different custom firmwares I found on XDA for the N8 and they were all for various models of the N95xx *except* the 9500 (wasn't listed). And none worked.
I also searched for custom firmware specific to the N9500 Duos on XDA, Google and even some websites I normally wouldn't even want to download shabby videos from, but I found none.
So now I am about to flash back the stock Samsung HK firmware to it, but that would be my least favored choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh no... What a pain...
I think HK and China ones for 9500 are Snapdragon...
Hope you get it sorted.
:good:
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs
charmz2k2 said:
Just a question...
I've got the 9500 as well. Mine is from HK as well but it's a Snapdragon.
Are you sure yours is an exynos? Please double check. Wouldn't want you screwing the phone up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One more info: I tried the Notorious kernel and its install screen specifically lists the compatible model versions and the N9500 is *not* in that list.
Since the XDA Lineage OS & RR ports are based on the Notorious kernel, it seems all but certain now that the HK model isn't supported by the XDA custom firmware.
So I'll stop with Notorious now and will instead flash myself all the way back to the shores of Honk Kong bay
Masinissa said:
One more info: I tried the Notorious kernel and its install screen specifically lists the compatible model versions and the N9500 is *not* in that list.
Since the XDA Lineage OS & RR ports are based on the Notorious kernel, it seems all but certain now that the HK model isn't supported by the XDA custom firmware.
So I'll stop with Notorious now and will instead flash myself all the way back to the shores of Honk Kong bay
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
N9500 IS Snapdragon! Try downloading "systeminfo" from Google and that should confirm!
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk
Dejan Sathanas said:
Xda has a very good search engine, there's a Note 8 roms section,...
You might learn something along the way.
Sent from my Galaxy Note8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The fact you take the time to post this says alot. Why don't YOU try to use the search function to the question that was asked and see what YOU learn, jackass.
robmeik said:
N9500 IS Snapdragon! Try downloading "systeminfo" from Google and that should confirm!
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I first have to flash myself back into a working system with the latest HK firmware.
But by now I am all but certain, that the info from that tech article (in German) was wrong, where they stated that N8 models sold outside the States were (all) based on Exonys. Well, they actually said, that only models sold in the US were based on Snapdragon. Fact is that I could not find *any* Exonys custom firmware that would be flashable onto my device - and I did a lot(!!) of searching about this. For me that means it must be Snapdragon.
Now my plan B is to get back to firmware, keep the darn thing rooted and then rip out as much of the Samsung crap as possible manually.
Is there any list which services and system apps are safe to remove on a stock firmware N8 9500?
Masinissa said:
I first have to flash myself back into a working system with the latest HK firmware.
But by now I am all but certain, that the info from that tech article (in German) was wrong, where they stated that N8 models sold outside the States were (all) based on Exonys. Well, they actually said, that only models sold in the US were based on Snapdragon. Fact is that I could not find *any* Exonys custom firmware that would be flashable onto my device - and I did a lot(!!) of searching about this. For me that means it must be Snapdragon.
Now my plan B is to get back to firmware, keep the darn thing rooted and then rip out as much of the Samsung crap as possible manually.
Is there any list which services and system apps are safe to remove on a stock firmware N8 9500?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk
robmeik said:
From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As a power user I happen to disagree as far as the usefulness of "rooting" is concerned.
Whilst that should never be a concern for "normal" users, even something as basic as changing those abysmal write blockages on the external SD card requires access to the stuff under the hood.
The same goes for using many of Chainfire's tools or being able to perform true full device backups *locally* (I would never entrust my data to the Samsung cloud).
And as far as the Snapdragon charging issue is concerned, last thing I read was this is now at 95-98%.
And since I used an official Samsung method to unlock the BL, I might not be affected by that at all.
In any case, I am sure I could compensate for those 5-3% in loss with a proper CPU governor (=root access).
Masinissa said:
As a power user I happen to disagree as far as the usefulness of "rooting" is concerned.
Whilst that should never be a concern for "normal" users, even something as basic as changing those abysmal write blockages on the external SD card requires access to the stuff under the hood.
The same goes for using many of Chainfire's tools or being able to perform true full device backups *locally* (I would never entrust my data to the Samsung cloud).
And as far as the Snapdragon charging issue is concerned, last thing I read was this is now at 95-98%.
And since I used an official Samsung method to unlock the BL, I might not be affected by that at all.
In any case, I am sure I could compensate for those 5-3% in loss with a proper CPU governor (=root access).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As a power user who uses my phone normally I feel that the latest developments in the operating system don't need endless tweaking! It seems that so many users now just tweak for the sake of tweaking rather than enjoying what their communication device has to offer!
I bought a 256Gb dual sim device as I didn't want problems with sd cards and I'm OK with backing up to the Samsung cloud ... but hey, that's just me a simple normal user who has been using Android since it began and was very much into tweaking in the early days as there was so much improvement to be had through rooting.
OK I use Nova rather than Touchwiz (but that's improved dramatically) and my main grip of adverts is now minimised by using "paid for" apps where possible and Samsung's own Internet app is very efficient at stopping adverts!
Sent from my SM-T805 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
robmeik said:
As a power user who uses my phone normally I feel that the latest developments in the operating system don't need endless tweaking! It seems that so many users now just tweak for the sake of tweaking rather than enjoying what their communication device has to offer!
...
Sent from my SM-T805 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It got nothing to do with "tweaking", but with overcoming intentional crippling of the device done by Google and Samsung together.
And for me a "power user" is not defined by someone who use his device often or has a lots of software on it, but by someone who insist on getting every ounce of possibility out of the hardware he paid good money for.
W/o root I can not decently mount ISO images or foreign file systems via SSH. W/o root I can not link across file systems or mount folders where *I* want them to be. W/o root I got no chance to alter the boot up behavior of the phone and I most certainly have no influence over anything running on it with "system" privileges.
I paid enough cash for my N8 for three new Laptops and in return I am supposed to be a devout little penguin who accepts any data stealing crap running in the background, any forced update Samsung pushes down my throat, learn to live with any security hole they won't patch and not be able to use my phone in ways *they* don't want me to?
If it be up to Google I wouldn't even be allowed to save YouTube Videos locally. For me being a "power user" means "being in power" - nothing more, nothing less.
since you are on snapdragon and you have been trying to flash exyno stuff, just wipe and you will be able to boot phone. i doubt any files were acctualy flashed. also any odin firmware you may have tried would have also failed.
by not having a custom recovery and probably not root either i do not see why your device is non operational.
looks like you probably used thisor should have)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-n9500-unlocking-bl-twrp-t3696103
anyways flashing back stock FW and following the steps in that link to gain twrp and root/magisk and xposed is all you need. custom roms have all of this baked in so you are not missing anything. maybe a few unique settings some have via rom control but nothing big.
but in the end its a shame a novice mistake was done by buying a snapdragon and tripped knox so you cant return it for a exynos.
,,,,
bober10113 said:
...
but in the end its a shame a novice mistake was done by buying a snapdragon and tripped knox so you cant return it for a exynos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Buying this phone wasn't a "novice mistake", as I looked for the HW specs first.
There are specific things I want to do with this phone - like using it as a portable PC replacement and building a cluster with my tablet and my CuBox - thus I went for the top HW specs.
And that model is the only one with DUAL SIM (or SDXC card), and 256 GB internal storage. Naturally I needed to root the darn thing to install all the stuff I want. Tripping KNOX was never an issue for me, as getting rid of stock firmware is always one of the first things I do. 64GB internal storage just wasn't enough for me, as I plan to install quite a few qemu and other "alternative" systems on it. I work as a consultant in Enterprise IT and I got to travel all the time because of that.
Now whenever I am not required to work with a company laptop I prefer to travel as light as possible.
Honestly speaking, the modern high end smartphones have at least as much computing power as a middle class laptop, the only limitations usually being storage speed and RAM size.
With the flagship N9500 these limits no longer exist so why should I still slug around another laptop (even if its a small one), if I can use my smartphone plus a WiFi cast dongle for private browsing, code testing and writing my invoices?
The mistake I made was to not take the time to verify the info from that tech article and thus to assume that, because my phone wasn't sold in the US, it couldn't be a snapdragon (and yes, originally I tried the firmware from that XDA post).
So now I gotta do it the hard way, flash back to stock Firmware and then "customize" that one manually.
Last info on this thread:
I was able to flash myself into a working phone, by downloading the latest Hongkong firmware from sammobile.
Then I used twrp to flash the extracted boot and system images (both are required, once you were foolish enough to try and install Exonys based firmware to it).
Now I am installing Magisk and just rip out anything "Samsung" from the darn thing by hand.
BTW, the BL unlock & TWRP install method for Snapdragon China phones (not US!) described here on XDA does not seem to have that battery issue described elsewhere, as it is not based on SAMfail.
robmeik said:
From what I have read you'll have difficulty in getting back to anything "normal" I think a rooted Snapdragon can only charge to 60% and once rooted all "secure" features are made redundant! That's why I have steered clear of rooting and anyway with the new software there's not that much that rooting enhances as far as I can see from my reading into the many threads on xda and other android related forums!
I was reading somewhere on here about getting rid of (freezing) some Samsung apps with out rooting though ... I'm leaving mine as it is as I'm happy with what I have!
Sent from my SM-N9500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will charge up to 80%.
I am considering selling European version and buying Chinese one. Can the Chinese version do call recording ?
Is it allowed on their androids or android 10 doesn't allow it to any part of the world ?
I don't know, I used to have a Mate 20 Pro (mexican version with carrier firmware), and with the apk for call recording was enough... maybe if there's a way to retrieve the apk from the chinese version (if there's any), it might be possible...
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to access the settings page?
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Do you share call recording apk here?
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
Phone then settings
capcase said:
How to access the settings page?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OMG ! - Mate, do you know how to extract recorder.apk from that and share it here
PS - I found chinese ROM but I extracting APKs from rom file is way too difficult for me. If anyone can help with that I am willing to share that ROM file.
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any chance you know how to extract APK from your phone so others can try installing it ? Can it be done simply like copying APK or it has to be extracted from ROM file...
PS - (I have ROM file, just dont' know how to open DATA files from inside, any help appreciated)
death365 said:
Phone then settings
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see it. Hmmmm
Sathelp said:
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's talking about Mexican career. I have ELS-N39 not the UK one. I'd like to try but - can you enlighten us a bit why it won't work to spare me of trying ??
Because it's only Chinese variant that it is enabled. In the past when you could unlock the bootloader and change regions, you could change between Chinese and any other area and back and it only works on the Chinese version. It must be restricted in the ROM. I've had Chinese versions with it working, extracted the file and tried on a non Chinese version and it fails installation every time.
I use ACR on non Chinese versions, works ok but callers voice needs turning up.
Try if you want. I'm sure that everyone would appreciate a working version of Huawei call recorder on their phones, it just works perfectly but please feel free to try and feedback to us your findings as this question comes up with every model.
If you do a search, I extracted Android 9 and 10 version to the forum in the past and I can get my Mate 30 pro fired up and extract it again if you want.
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Installation failed...!
The parser did not find any certificates in the installation package.
Exactly, that is what happens on a non Chinese version
Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you. What you have described earlier, I have done in the past with HTC: change region, easily using XTC tool which would allow me to have NFC, Radio and few features which were disabled on EU version.
Your story is totally believable and true; I was just hoping it might work. I'll try anyway, you know the old say "fulls don't believe anyone"
PS - I do have ACR full pro licensed version, I need call recorder to work perfectly, it's part of my job, so even if I have to buy chinese phone, be it huawei or samsung or whatever...
Btw did you know that call recording is allowed in Italy without any announcement. I am really unhappy that this phone isn't really developed properly for various EU regions.
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
Sathelp said:
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I may consider the mi 10 ultra, I'm in the uk so will it work on our network? Where did you buy it from?
Sent from my ELS-NX9 using Tapatalk
XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
Sathelp said:
XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True that, If Huawei allow unlocking the bootloader, then their phones will rock and can be sold with people worrying about Google ban, as there will be many developers out there ready to build many custom rom with Google (GMS) Integrated
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi all, what do you think is 7 Pro 5G worst model due to NO support from custom roms? I can not find even one custom work to support this phone, and to be honest I would like to replace it asap for anything with AOSP support ;/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why not debloat?
Mervingio said:
Why not debloat?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got it debloated but how can you compare it to custom Rom and kernel?
Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
Mike_77 said:
Why would you state a phone is the worst model ever strictly based on a lack of custom ROMs? The availability of ROMs has nothing to do with the capability the phone model has. If you want custom ROMs, you could always do the work to make them. If you don't have the knowledge, there are plenty of devs that have provided help to many on this forum, and I'm sure that you could get help if you're willing to spend the time and put in the effort.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
As oneplus phones are great for custom firmware and I always buy them because of it. In this case 5G model is just a piece of rubbish as there is literally NO support from devs. You say do it on my own? Yeah I would like to have few hours of spare time every day to play with it, but as I do not have that time I have to sell the phone and buy something "normal".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand your concern but if you look in the correct place TG you will find it. ??
What do you mean not compatible? Because bootloader locked? Or is the hardware different? I managed to unlock bootloader, but have not yet tried to flash a ROM. Are you saying a regular ROM will not work for the OP7 Pro just because it's the 5G version? (I don't need 5G anyway if that's the only problem with 5G OP7).
Hey fellows,
as I'm considering to buy a Redmi Note 10s, is there any custom rom/twrp/other available for this device?
I sadly could not find any useful information.
Regards
me too, still waiting something from 10s... sadly no development going
This just happens way too often for me in particular i pickup a phone that is from the redmi note series which falls in between the pro and redmi range which then gets overshadowed by pro model with more people developing for the pro and pro max variants
I would also like to know if there is anything going on wrt custom roms for this device. I am looking to buy this device if there will be custom rom support eventually.
b1boi said:
This just happens way too often for me in particular i pickup a phone that is from the redmi note series which falls in between the pro and redmi range which then gets overshadowed by pro model with more people developing for the pro and pro max variants
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is true. But recently in amazon India's annual sale, note 10s was available for as low as INR12500 (~$168) after all the discounts for the base 6GB/64GB variant which makes it one of best (specs wise) in this price range. Hence the hope that with so many buyers, some development progress, we would be able to see.
Another problem now-a-days with Mi (and even other brands) phones in India is that they deviously increase the prices post ~2 weeks of launch by minimum INR500 or more (which can be make or break for budget cautious buyers like me). Hence waiting for a custom roms might ironically mean paying more for the device later.
GildroY said:
That is true. But recently in amazon India's annual sale, note 10s was available for as low as INR12500 (~$168) after all the discounts for the base 6GB/64GB variant which makes it one of best (specs wise) in this price range. Hence the hope that with so many buyers, some development progress, we would be able to see.
Another problem now-a-days with Mi (and even other brands) phones in India is that they deviously increase the prices post ~2 weeks of launch by minimum INR500 or more (which can be make or break for budget cautious buyers like me). Hence waiting for a custom roms might ironically mean paying more for the device later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
garethdk said:
I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My RN10s came with both, Amazon and Netflix, and if its not, you can install both apps from play store.
If there is anyway that we can setup a pool/account to pay to the developer(s), I am happy to contribute my bit. If this is ok, experts/pros please advise.
Really looking for some help with custom rom for this otherwise awesome device. Just need to get rid of stock rom.
garethdk said:
I'm planning to buy this phone does this have Netflix and Amazon support
asking because a reviewer said he didn't get amazon and Netflix installed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think your question was already answered. In addition, If you were looking for widevine certification for consuming fhd content - yes note 10s is widevine l1 certified, so all good.
However, all that is secondary, this thread is primarily for discussion on custom rom development.
GildroY said:
If there is anyway that we can setup a pool/account to pay to the developer(s), I am happy to contribute my bit. If this is ok, experts/pros please advise.
Really looking for some help with custom rom for this otherwise awesome device. Just need to get rid of stock rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same question here. Who does those ROMs? Are they for hire? What's missing? Is there a public repo with work in progress almost working ROMs? How does that usually go? Or do devs drop binaries out of nowhere? I assume it has to be rather transparent for security reasons already.
I would also be willing to chip in.
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
gamersfan said:
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And if I did the mistake of buying this phone and would rather pay for a public good than for a second phone? I'd happily pay $300 for this rom but have no idea if it's rather $30k away from being available or if somebody has it done already and just was too lazy to upload.
gamersfan said:
If you want billion custom roms, dont buy MTK cpu phone :c
Better buy qualcomm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sometimes buying the phone is based more on it being a 'value for money' proposition. 'Less Money spent' ranks higher than the 'processor brand' for a similar spec processor (in this case better processor at almost similar price ~INR13k/~$170 USD, when compared to note 10 or realme 8-which is useless because of no root possible ever) with a hope that with the device being cheap, a lot of developers will get interested.
It might not be the case with everyone, but i believe, will apply to most of the people out there who want to change devices constantly for cheap.
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
murigny64 said:
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you developer
no, I am no longer. I stopped in Marchmallow
murigny64 said:
No TWRP (yet) --> No custom ROM
So, wait for TWRP ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might be a dumb question. Forgive my ignorance, but who can help with TWRP for this device? Is there some place where we can request one?
GildroY said:
Might be a dumb question. Forgive my ignorance, but who can help with TWRP for this device? Is there some place where we can request one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, currently i am working on it. It booted however there is a problem, data stays encrypted. Even after format data it still doesn't work. This is because this device uses keymaster 4.1. As i know there is currently no other fix (well i saw something on twrp's gerrit but i am not sure it will work) so you probably should wait a bit more.
Ok we will wait
Teamwin release TWRP to 3.5.2, and it's now compatible with Android 11
Work in progress .....
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Agreed
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
definitely.
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.
Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
speedtripler said:
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.
I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is your problem?
hungragezone said:
What is your problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
saisannihith said:
iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you
Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.
vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?
saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.