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Hey guys, I'm seriously considering getting a Huawei P9. I'm not a big fan of EMUI [i currently own Huawei GR5 (Honor 5X)], but the P9 pretty much the best device in my budget.
Hows the entire user experience? battery life? Speed?!
Since it's Kirin CPU, I'm guessing we'll not see CM on this device for some time? lol
Also, which model is more popular? In terms of software update availability and stuff? L19? L09? or L29?
From my own experience I came from a LG G4, yeh it has an excellent camera and fluid as hell, but I changed 'cuz the battery life (in G4 it suck , charging almost every day, and stopping data and/or wifi to extend it a little more)... Huawei P9 has an awesome battery.. with 31% you can still have like ~10hr (wifi/data on non stop).. Speed?? 3 GB Ram is more than enough, really good, I don't care about how many apps I opened, the response it's fluid and without lags.
I have both the P9 and galaxy S7 because I can't decide which I like the best. So here are my thoughts:
The P9 is the best allrounder, it beats the S7 on nearly everything except the camera and overall functionality.
The camera in P9 is good but compared to the S7 it blow chunks! It is so big difference you can't ignore it.
The more money u have to pay for the S7 is worth it.
And then there is the Emui, it's more fluid than touchwiz but there is just so many stupid things with Emui, like not all media players work on the lock screen, so far I only got power amp, spotify and Google music to show up on the lock screen.
Despite of all this I still come back to the P9, it's just more fun.
diigiital said:
The camera in P9 is good but compared to the S7 it blow chunks! It is so big difference you can't ignore it.
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On camera, the weak point of the P9 is video. Pictures are amazing. If you depend on video go for s7. If you just wanna take pictures the P9 is absolutely fine.
Also check out the Nougat beta for the P9 on youtube, from my experience so far Huawei has been very good with updates. And the Nougat rom (EMUI 5.0) will change things a lot in terms of software.
And the hardware is amazing. USB C, full metal body (Glass backs are a no go for me personally) and no camera bump. FP reader is perfect. Everything is fast and smooth, I've seen no slowdowns at all and battery is great too (2 full days minimum for me).
If you like to flash custom roms and stuff and use CM etc, one look in the dev thread will show that custom kernels/roms are just now slowly coming on. Recovery, root and xposed are all working fine though.
I went for the P9 over the S7, because it has way better price/performance ratio and for me better hardware design. It's just a much more interesting phone to me.
The P9 will give you more bang for the buck. Very fluid UI (no freezing, stuttering or random reboots). Everything just works (bluetooth, wifi - I get wifi in the house in places where I didn't get any with my LG G3 and OnePlus 2). Camera is great for still photography. Video quality is still pretty good even though it doesn't do 4K or have OIS. And the fingerprint scanner is just ridiculous... Takes just 3 or 4 taps to set up and works lightning fast every single time. Phone design is very sleek and feels great in hand (no camera hump neither!). Battery life is pretty good with about 4 to 5 hours of SOT. On slow days it can last 1.5 - 2 days.
EMUI takes some getting used to and takes some setting up to get everything working the way you want to, but that just means the initial set-up process is just a wee bit longer than on other phones.
If you don't like the look (like me), just install Nova Launcher and an icon pack of your choice. That'll give you double tap to sleep as well!
As for theming: there's quite an active theming community for EMUI on Google Plus.
With Nova launcher, icons and an EMUI theme running you can get close enough to a stock experience.
Is it a upgrade at all?
not really - you no longer have as close to stock android, no guarantee for updates, incompatibility with some applications, only good thing is the camera
you might be better to wait and see what the new pixel is going to be like
I have both devices, I work in the arts fields, and I value camera quality. It really is a toss between the two, camera wise, both npu help get really good results. I grew up in the eighties and I am therefore used to manipulate settings in order to get the image I want. I am no professional photographer anyhow, but I get more from the P20 pro.
Monochrome Lens, telescopic lens, and either 40 mp or reduced 10 mp photos that are equally good of not better than pixel 2 XL.
On the other hand, sure, the Google device is getting updates, as all my previous nexuses. But if you get into the maze that is sometimes the setting panel in the p20 pro, you can in about phone section help the phone learn even better by telling him your rules about apps launches , fine tune it, and in a week or so your battery life will improve with added machine learning, just as in Pie.
Battery wise it's silly to try to compare them hardware size only, as, one it is to me only a guess allot who will have lost which percentage on a daily comparable usage. Both can go beyond the next day, but you'll have to charge it at some point, that next day anyway.
Lack of Bt 5.0 but oh well, I can still manage with the bundled app on my Bluetooth speakers play in stereo and up to 50 devices simultaneously, mind you. So no issue for me here.
I had no issue with the pixel neither and it has 5.0 BT.
Responsiveness is on par, and yeah stock Google's vision of Android is lighter and less resource hungry, but, the p 20 pro is more bloated, butt the trend in Huawei is to simplify the ui and it's navigation, and make it closer to say a Google device, but not too close. Emui is like a custom rom with tons of options. But you can turn them down if you want. So being a long time nexus buyer and then some OnePlus devices also, it was a jump but as I still have all my devices at hand, I don't regret getting the p20 pro. Which I had to learn how to use, but, once done is another kind of pleasuring experience also.
Hope this helps. I guess phones have reached a plateau and it's just npu in the next years that will improve every aspects of our phone's usage and optimization, but npus are in their beginnings. Cheers.
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I have both devices, I work in the arts fields, and I value camera quality. It really is a toss between the two, camera wise, both npu help get really good results. I grew up in the eighties and I am therefore used to manipulate settings in order to get the image I want. I am no professional photographer anyhow, but I get more from the P20 pro.
Monochrome Lens, telescopic lens, and either 40 mp or reduced 10 mp photos that are equally good of not better than pixel 2 XL.
On the other hand, sure, the Google device is getting updates, as all my previous nexuses. But if you get into the maze that is sometimes the setting panel in the p20 pro, you can in about phone section help the phone learn even better by telling him your rules about apps launches , fine tune it, and in a week or so your battery life will improve with added machine learning, just as in Pie.
Battery wise it's silly to try to compare them hardware size only, as, one it is to me only a guess allot who will have lost which percentage on a daily comparable usage. Both can go beyond the next day, but you'll have to charge it at some point, that next day anyway.
Lack of Bt 5.0 but oh well, I can still manage with the bundled app on my Bluetooth speakers play in stereo and up to 50 devices simultaneously, mind you. So no issue for me here.
I had no issue with the pixel neither and it has 5.0 BT.
Responsiveness is on par, and yeah stock Google's vision of Android is lighter and less resource hungry, but, the p 20 pro is more bloated, butt the trend in Huawei is to simplify the ui and it's navigation, and make it closer to say a Google device, but not too close. Emui is like a custom rom with tons of options. But you can turn them down if you want. So being a long time nexus buyer and then some OnePlus devices also, it was a jump but as I still have all my devices at hand, I don't regret getting the p20 pro. Which I had to learn how to use, but, once done is another kind of pleasuring experience also.
Hope this helps. I guess phones have reached a plateau and it's just npu in the next years that will improve every aspects of our phone's usage and optimization, but npus are in their beginnings. Cheers.
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The learning is not perfect and even if you do change the battery settings for apps, you will still have some issues with certain apps (mainly stuff linking to cloud as they don't tend to backup until you open the app, even if told can run in the background), some apps can still be killed off and you just need to restart them again.
The trend in Huawei is not to make the UI closer to a Google device, but infact the UI is closer to Apple and it is only recently they have added the option to have a proper android desktop instead of the apple style desktop.
If you concerned about updates, application compatibility, ability to unlock the devicethen go with Google otherwise if not bothered about these then yeh choose a Huawei device
True, as I wrote, npu are learning but are in their infancy, what Huawei does is similar to what pixel device can do, but Google has a much better algorithm. So you are right, and some apps don't play nicely with the emui framework, Google photos is dropping frame rates just when scrolling through photos. As for iPhone /ios looks, I guess I don't particularly practice it. No ios device in the house for.... Years.
If only the pixel had a monochrome lens or an optical zoom or a software way to deliver those, it would be great. Maybe it will happen, hdr+ is such a great standard, who knows what new capacity they can bring with the software.
Hey guys i want to know if anyone can guide or suggest best working rom other then ofcourse mi rom . I have tried evolution rom and pixel experience rom. Evolution was working great, only issue is screen dead randomly. While pixel experience is strange , screen lag, front camera pop issues .
So if you guys happy with one rom, ticks all bars. Would be great.
I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...
It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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My k20 pro is on way to me, and i think people should be more patient, its new device, to make a good stable rom you have to work for months on it. This device will definitely got support for many years.
nakulp said:
It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...
There's no stable alternative to the miui 10 rom. Even miui 11 is quite buggy.
I've tried all of the roms on here. They each have their quirks and bugs. After trying aosp gestures, miui 11 is leagues ahead too. That's another thing to consider.
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Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...
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The fan following & 'professional reviewers' following of One Plus is much larger than that of Redmi.
It's almost like they consider themselves the Apple of Android thus sometimes the mad, blind hype to get the latest one == larger dev interest.
Jealousy is totally normal, even I felt the same when there was so much interest in poco f1 & kernel development by several elite devs & also the time when I'd a SD821 Mi Note 2 but Pixel had a more highly thriving community but nevertheless good things like roms & kernels started coming out in about 9-10 months & still decent today..
If the hardware is strong, the device sources made available asap after official releases then we'll have development for quite a long time! :highfive:
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I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...
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All I hear in this forum is "mimimimimi"... What's wrong with this community? Be patient please!
The Mi 9T pro / K20 pro is a great device considering the price of $ 370.
+ 4000mAh battery
+ No notch
+ Amoled screen
+ Quick charge 27 W
- But I dislike miui in every single way
On the other hand, I think about oneplus 7 considering the price of $ 400:
+ Dual speakers
+ Amoled screen
+ Main camera with OIS
++ Oxygen OS (like vanilla android)
- 3700 mAh
- only in black color for this price
- screen with notch
In my opinion, I decided to wait a little longer while I follow the development of custom roms.
So apparently /e/OS has an official build for the ROG Phone 2
Info about Asus ROG Phone 2 (ZS660KL) - I001D
doc.e.foundation
I'm thinking about buying the device specifically for /e/OS. However, I can't find literally a single mention of it used or if there are any issues with it or anything. Was wondering if anyone had tested it and if they had, what issues they'd ran into (if any)?
i don't know if you looked at other custom roms for our phone. they are all pretty much the same at their core. same is with /e/OS.
from what i've read about it, it's privacy focused fork of AOSP/Lineage OS that doesn't use google services but microG.
another thing worth considering is how much you use rog phone specific features. like for example air triggers, glowing LED rog logo on the back, dual vibration motors and such. because probably most of those features won't be supported on this custom rom. which to me is a downgrade from original software.
if you just want android without google services, there is a way of doing so without going to custom rom.
and nobody can give me "i bought it for stereo speakers/big battery/no notch screen" talk, because you can buy yourself oneplus 7t pro (hell, even oneplus 7 pro will do good) which has better quality stereo speakers, screen on time that's nearly the same as on rog phone (especially considering how bad some people have it on a10), no notch, and **** ton of custom roms/kernels that will give you up to 13 hours of screen on time. did i mention better cameras? yeah, that too. and all that in slimmer, nearly bezel less design. okay, screen refresh rate is "only" 90hz.
small edit: oneplus 7 pro has better speakers than oneplus 7t pro. i expected them to be the same but after checking reviews they proved me wrong
I'm very aware of what /e/OS is, what microG is, and what alternatives there are.
I know the ROM will remove ROG-specific features, and I'm totally okay with that. I don't have any intention of utilizing any of those features even if it were stock.
In general, I'm not looking for phone purchasing guidance, simply feedback on how that ROM in particular functions on this device. Every device I've ever run into custom ROMs with has had _some_ issues from ROM to ROM (that's juist the nature of development)
In particular, just some of the issues that seem to be common in this devices' ROMs are:
- Aux cam doesnt show up on asuscam but on gcam works fine
- FOD overlaps pattern on reboot
- SafetyNet fails without root
- 30W charger shows incorrect info on LS (Thanks to Asus Charger!).
While none of these issues are dealbreakers for me, I would like to make sure that the issues with the /e/OS build in particular had any additions from this
i know you don't look for phone purchasing guide, but there is always that one guy that will start telling everybody how this phone has some regular features that other phones don't have and that's why he bought it. not because of airtriggers or armoury crate. just wanted to address that.
now, back to the business.
as /e/OS is based on Lineage OS build for our phone, you can expect the same issues as in that build
Hi Everyone,
It seems the device is performing great for everyone after the last batch of updates. Especially global enhanced rom.
This seems to be the only device with least problems threads on XDA (excluding .eu rom). I was a oneplus user before, and a pixel user earlier. Honestly, this device is best of all, even though stock rom is best, but features and enhancement in MIUI are really good, Oxygen OS is closest to stock, fastest (just for sometime, then now everything nearly the same), but with loads of bugs, most of them are just ignored and they just stay with you to the rest of the device life (my OP6T still got bugs since Launch date and now A11 still have them).
I bought this device just to test Xiaomi, I was about to buy OP9Pro and changed my mind on last minute (seriously last minute, had OP9Pro in cart already and was proceeding payment). And, surprisingly, I am really happy with my choice.
This is my experience with this device. I tried many devices, i stopped using Samsung since S9 (was my last device after starting with S3, S4, S6, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4, S8, S9) and i'll never go back to it, LG, Nexus, Pixel, Oneplus, Iphone 12 pro max.
And I really wanted to try Huawei if it had google service, and would love to see Harmony OS imported to Xiaomi if google services would work. But, it is what it is.
I am not biased to any device or brand, and I like to try new experience, luckily, this is one of best experiences with a new device I had.
I'm very happy with my Mi 11 Ultra now too. I've even flashed the latest Android 12 based 21.10.20 Xiaomi.EU weekly ROM and the battery life and stability has been rock solid.
I wasn't very impressed and blown away at the start - the camera wasn't performing that well and there were a lot of bugs and snagging issues there and there with it. It's now so much better and I'm really enjoying my phone too.
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I'm very happy with my Mi 11 Ultra now too. I've even flashed the latest Android 12 based 21.10.20 Xiaomi.EU weekly ROM and the battery life and stability has been rock solid.
I wasn't very impressed and blown away at the start - the camera wasn't performing that well and there were a lot of bugs and snagging issues there and there with it. It's now so much better and I'm really enjoying my phone too.
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Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat
rowihel2012 said:
Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat
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Does Spotify still stutter even when you send a WhatsApp message?
Agree. This phone rocks, it is rock solid and performs great. Really happy of my choice
hassanaliyeh said:
Hi Everyone,
It seems the device is performing great for everyone after the last batch of updates. Especially global enhanced rom.
This seems to be the only device with least problems threads on XDA (excluding .eu rom). I was a oneplus user before, and a pixel user earlier. Honestly, this device is best of all, even though stock rom is best, but features and enhancement in MIUI are really good, Oxygen OS is closest to stock, fastest (just for sometime, then now everything nearly the same), but with loads of bugs, most of them are just ignored and they just stay with you to the rest of the device life (my OP6T still got bugs since Launch date and now A11 still have them).
I bought this device just to test Xiaomi, I was about to buy OP9Pro and changed my mind on last minute (seriously last minute, had OP9Pro in cart already and was proceeding payment). And, surprisingly, I am really happy with my choice.
This is my experience with this device. I tried many devices, i stopped using Samsung since S9 (was my last device after starting with S3, S4, S6, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4, S8, S9) and i'll never go back to it, LG, Nexus, Pixel, Oneplus, Iphone 12 pro max.
And I really wanted to try Huawei if it had google service, and would love to see Harmony OS imported to Xiaomi if google services would work. But, it is what it is.
I am not biased to any device or brand, and I like to try new experience, luckily, this is one of best experiences with a new device I had.
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THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.
EvilDeadFan said:
THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.
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Just FYI, any APN issues on OP6T will move to this one, I had same carrier issue with OP6T before I move here. But that is not a biggie for me.
But regarding bugs,. Hell yeah, OP6T had more bugs by at least 10 to 15 times more than this one. Especially after latest miui update, nearly clean.
EvilDeadFan said:
THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.
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I would wait until the new one launches, the old stock will get cheaper or you can get the new 12 for the same price
speedtripler said:
I would wait until the new one launches, the old stock will get cheaper or you can get the new 12 for the same price
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While the Xiaomi 12 will be launched this month, the 12 Ultra and the enhanced edition will come next summer or later.
rowihel2012 said:
Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat
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Can you post some picture and the new interface?
Samdaja said:
While the Xiaomi 12 will be launched this month, the 12 Ultra and the enhanced edition will come next summer or later.
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Not that late, they're going to want something to compete with Samsung