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Based on various news outlet (example: http://www.androidcentral.com/updated-google-wallet-app-coming-all-us-based-android-phones), Google has launched an updated Google Wallet app that will WORK with ALL carriers.
Previously, when I installed Google Wallet on my S4A, starting it will give men an error about my device is "not compatible", which is a given since AT&T pretty much blocked Google Wallet.
The new Wallet app supposed to rectify this problem. I updated today, launched the app and did NOT get the error above. I am now presented with a screen that asked which Gmail account I want to use for the Wallet App.
I selected my primary Gmail account, which I used to purchase apps and other Google subscriptions service and I got a:
"Failed to add account. An error has occurred while adding your account"
My web-based Google Wallet is fine, otherwise I won't be able to pay for stuff in Google Play.
Anyone get the new Google Wallet to work in the S4A?
I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
Avail211 said:
I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
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No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
I installed it on my I537 last night (or earlier today, I honestly can't remember, bleh) and set everything up but a) I don't have a legit Samsung battery at the moment so no NFC capability anyway (real battery should be here tomorrow, actually), and b) after reading up on the device support at Google's support site it looks as though there are two primary requirements for Google Wallet to function:
1) a device with NFC that is supported by Google Wallet
2) a carrier that supports Google Wallet also
Now, looking over the info again at the following link:
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/1347934?hl=en
it does show that the Galaxy S4 is eligible which should mean the Galaxy S4 Active is included as well, it's the same basic hardware for the most part but, the issue then becomes is your carrier one that supports it, and according to the info on that page the Galaxy S4 (and by similarity in hardware, the Galaxy S4 Active) is only supported for Google Wallet using Sprint, US Cellular, and Google Play so if you're not using one of those you're/we're out of luck - I use T-Mobile and will test out Google Wallet over the weekend with the new battery. I get why Sprint and US Cellular are mentioned: because they ARE cellular carrier providers, but Google Play isn't so that's somewhat confusing why they'd mention it specifically.
Oh well, hope this clarification helps. I'm sure as time passes more carriers will get on board with Google Wallet - once Google starts pushing that aspect hard, other companies aren't going to have much choice but fall in line and provide support.
It's Google we're talking about here...
lanwarrior said:
No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
lanwarrior said:
If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
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Ahh I found it now. Mine says 'unverified' since I haven't given Wallet my address and such. There are 0 vendors where I live that use NFC readers so I haven't been able to even use Wallet, I just installed it in case I get to go back to the states for a visit.
Glad to see you got it resolved though!
Can anyone give me a list of bloatware that I can remove/disable? please note I will not root my tablet
Anything that you can remove without root, is safe to remove. It's up to you to decide whether you need or want an app. What extra stuff is preloaded depends on your region.
You can not remove any bloadware without rooting your device. I mostly remove high data usage apps like Samsung link, google MUSIC, book.. . And other google apps which im not use them and Microsoft Excel,word etc. You can check and remove apps with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyapps.txtoolbox
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Anything that you can remove without root, is safe to remove. It's up to you to decide whether you need or want an app. What extra stuff is preloaded depends on your region.
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Not exactly true. For example, it is possible to disable "Galaxy Apps" without root by simply going to application manager and clicking "Disable" button. However, doing so will cause anything installed through "Galaxy Apps" marketplace to fail to update. Like Microsoft Office apps, for one example. The app itself will say "New version available", but clicking on "Get It" button will just silently fail.
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Not exactly true. For example, it is possible to disable "Galaxy Apps" without root by simply going to application manager and clicking "Disable" button. However, doing so will cause anything installed through "Galaxy Apps" marketplace to fail to update. Like Microsoft Office apps, for one example. The app itself will say "New version available", but clicking on "Get It" button will just silently fail.
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I was talking about removing, not just disabling. The bloatware, like e.g. the pizza and hotel apps included in the German firmware, can be removed like normal apps via the app drawer. I would indeed think that disabling system apps like "Galaxy Apps" is riskier.
The situation with the pre-installed Office apps is a bit weird: you can't update them via the Google Play, even though Google Play indicates that an update is available. Somehow Google thinks that these apps are incompatible with our device and refuses to install or update them. Even though they are pre-installed and our device clearly is compatible. This happens even if you haven't disabled "Galaxy Apps". But you do indeed need "Galaxy Apps" if you do want to update them, since that store does see our device as compatible. Though in my experience, updates arrive in "Galaxy Apps" much later.
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I was talking about removing, not just disabling. The bloatware, like e.g. the pizza and hotel apps included in the German firmware, can be removed like normal apps via the app drawer. I would indeed think that disabling system apps like "Galaxy Apps" is riskier.
The situation with the pre-installed Office apps is a bit weird: you can't update them via the Google Play, even though Google Play indicates that an update is available. Somehow Google thinks that these apps are incompatible with our device and refuses to install or update them. Even though they are pre-installed and our device clearly is compatible. This happens even if you haven't disabled "Galaxy Apps". But you do indeed need "Galaxy Apps" if you do want to update them, since that store does see our device as compatible. Though in my experience, updates arrive in "Galaxy Apps" much later.
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What if I disable Galaxy Apps and remove Office apps and reinstall it through Google Play will it update properly?
Ruriko said:
What if I disable Galaxy Apps and remove Office apps and reinstall it through Google Play will it update properly?
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No. Google Play has marked the Office applications as incompatible with our device, so I suspect you can't reinstall it from Google Play.
Is there a link to a description of these apps/packages anywhere? I'd like to take a look at one before I disable my stuff... Or do I need to google them one by one? I downloaded a package info tool but as for descriptions, it just has a button that says "Google It" and it just shoves the query into my search app...which isn't exactly what I expected when downloading the app.
klear6 said:
Is there a link to a description of these apps/packages anywhere? I'd like to take a look at one before I disable my stuff... Or do I need to google them one by one? I downloaded a package info tool but as for descriptions, it just has a button that says "Google It" and it just shoves the query into my search app...which isn't exactly what I expected when downloading the app.
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I hear you Klear, all us simple users need is a list of things which are safe to disable on a stock tablet running Android 7. I've disabled the following and things seem to be OK:-
-Dictionary
-Drive
-Excel
-Google Play & Movies
-Hangouts
-Memo
-OneDrive
-OneNote
-Photos
-Powerpoint
-SideSync
-Word
I suspect there are many more?
Everything Samsung related, I'd say.
I can send you my list if you wish.
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No. Google Play has marked the Office applications as incompatible with our device, so I suspect you can't reinstall it from Google Play.
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I don't think that's completely true. I regularly receive updates via play store at least on the beta channel
Hello
I'm trying to register an RFID card to my phone so I don't have to carry the card around.
There are some programs on the market that do this and there is also Huawei Wallet app that is preinstalled on the device.
No matter what software I install, each time I scan an RF tag the Huawei wallet app jumps up and asks me to log in.
This is VERY frustrating. I can't see a way to uninstall or disable the wallet app. clearing the cache/data didn't work.
Is there a way to remove or disable this app without rooting the device?
I will definitely not buy Huawei again just because of all the un-removable preinstalled stuff they keep on shoving on their devices.
Any help would be appreciated.
G.
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Hello
I'm trying to register an RFID card to my phone so I don't have to carry the card around.
There are some programs on the market that do this and there is also Huawei Wallet app that is preinstalled on the device.
No matter what software I install, each time I scan an RF tag the Huawei wallet app jumps up and asks me to log in.
This is VERY frustrating. I can't see a way to uninstall or disable the wallet app. clearing the cache/data didn't work.
Is there a way to remove or disable this app without rooting the device?
I will definitely not buy Huawei again just because of all the un-removable preinstalled stuff they keep on shoving on their devices.
Any help would be appreciated.
G.
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Use this method:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
While you're at it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/guide-list-bloat-software-emui-safe-to-t3700814
Hey guys, long time lurker around xda and after purposely getting a huawei gms-less phone to see how it would go I ran into some frustrations learning that apks from the playstore whether from downloads or aurora store app etc, nothing would deliver notifications. My huawei is a nova7se but I had a friend test this on his and it is working as well so I presume it works for all huawei/googleless devices to a point.
The goal of this was to find a way to get notifications from playstore apps such as discord, outlook email , banking apps etc. This is not a replacement for google services apis needed for games or google apps which rely on services framework to operate in general.
A few things
-MUST BE CLEAN GOOGLE-LESS PHONE**
-Does not need root/bootloader unlocked
-Does not need sketchy downloads from random sites formatting recovery/ota/hisuite backups etc
-Mostly all open source
-Easily reversible and minimal risk
-All done through phone without additional mods or adb
-Not all apps will work for notification services for this depending on how the original developer team wrote the app to handle this situations. For example: discord, outlook, capital one bank, chase bank, apps work but protonmail did not want to connect to microg for notifications and I have not been able to successfully trick it to connect to it yet)
- APKS MUST BE FROM PLAY STORE ORIGINALLY. Using fdroid variants or personal stuff probably wont work since those packages did not rely on google notification services. I know some apps have a standalone apk you can download externally from the source but it may differ in its functionality.
-THIS IS NOT GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES AND WILL NOT MAKE GOOGLE APPS WORK. The reason it is not working for your google apps and games is because it was never supposed to. Dx
**By "google-less" phone I am referring to not having any leftover packages from attempting to install gms on the device. Google packages conflict with microG and will not be compatible. If you have used lzplay or other methods to attempt to get some form of playstore working, then you will most likely have google packages installed somewhere even if it failed to get GMS working perfectly. Keep this in mind if you get installation issues. Ideally if you are not using the phone as a daily, factory reset it to original settings if possible to ensure cleanest install if you want to pursue this.
STEP 1)
Download microG apps.
-microG services core
(optional)
- **microG services framework proxy
- **microG droidguard helper (? no idea if this is needed but was in my downloads for microg testing)
**the services framework proxy and droidguardhelper were part of the original experiment but later on I managed to get notifications running without needed either one of these.
Easiest way is to use fdroid store app and to add in microg repo found here.
https://f-droid.org/
https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/wiki/Downloads
Step 2)
Open microg settings app - self check
-Signature spoofing will not work because we have no access to anything on the phone system wise
-Installed packages should have "playservices gms core installed" and "services framework installed" checked only (see picture)
-Grant permissions and select to ignore battery optimization (so the service is not closed in background)
Step 3)
MicroG settings main menu
-Turn on google device registration
-Turn on google cloud messaging
-Turn on google safetynet (probably is not actually doing anything but turn it on for good measure)
-Add google account (Does not appear to be needed since it did not do anything specific relating to notifs)
Step 4)
Download aurora store.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
or
https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore
Fdroid route is easiest if you used it to install microg apps.
(Why aurorastore? Why not? The main reason is because it accesses google play store apps which inturn are the apks which are known to use google play services for notifications. Downloading an apk from another origin might not be the playstore version making it not really work with this process)
Step 5)
Download apps as needed with aurora store,
In phone settings, make sure you disable auto management of background apps.
Settings-battery-applaunch. Set apps like outlook, discord etc to manual and turn all settings to on (auto launch/run in background/secondary lauch).
Optional step 6) In aurora store settings , add microg apps to blacklist so aurora store does not try to update microg with play services which will erase micro g and give you a systemless apk of play services which does absolutely nothing.
Thats basically it. I was so caught up on trying to find ways to break into my nova 7se's bootloader and attempted to sideload microg for authentic playstore functionality and playservices but as long as notifications are working, aurora store + notifs is all the functionality I need.
No offense to those offering other ways to add in gms to huawei phones but as a security minded individual, it seems like too much of a risk to use randomly hosted internet files overwriting system functionality.
If you go into microg settings and under "google cloud messaging" you can see which apps are being monitored for notifications. Once I restarted my device, its status turned to disconnected but still catches notifications for outlook and discord as I tested. This is not using microg as a replacement for playservices because again this is ONLY FOR NOTIFICATION USAGE in this implementation.
Hope this helps anyone who wants to be able to use some google play apps but had notification issues.
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
zoold3vil said:
It is not working as i kept getting error to install microG Services Core due to "Failed to install due to an unknown error" on my Huawei P40 Pro
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
futureshock said:
i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Don't worry, you just have to reinstall every app that force closes.
sheikgr said:
This is only for notifications, right?
I mean, this doesn't allow you to use YouTube, Gmail, Keep etc...?
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Correct. I stumbled upon this accidentally while trying to figure out a way to enable 'oem unlock' in my nova7se since huawei blocked even adb shell sysprop access to change the setting. Its not a full implementation of microG and probably is not intended to be used this way but it gets notifications through which is a plus when pulling apks from play store. Theres no xda forum for the nova7se but figured Id share it here D:
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i did played with microG Services as well befire... but ended up in still having the original play services installed, did tested now again with microG services and now, outlook, whatsapp, Microsoft Authenticator and Launcher only force closes... what ah mess
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Yea unfortunatly any attempts with getting original play services installed sort of messes with this. Preferably a clean install/phone reset is ideal starting point. App wise you might have to clear cache and data so it 'resets' which is almost the same as uninstalling and reinstalling the apps. You will still get the message that "this app wont function without play services" since you cant spoof it entirely and on some you might have to find the setting to turn notifications off and back on in the app themselves. If it shows up on microG's setting under 'google cloud messaging' option, it is working. Ive been using the nova7se for a couple days now testing it as a daily user, restarted it occasionally and things are functioning similar to regular android phones(notification wise). Just be sure to allow the app to run in background so the system battery saver/app launch process does not turn it off.
as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
another interessting i found out right now, when the apps force closes, when putting the phone into airplane mode, the apps does open normally!
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Oh ok I get what you are talking about now. Backup functionality (for whatsapp) I believe uses google drive account which microG in this sense is not going to provide. Just a friendly reminder that this process is for push notifications only and not google api usage. provided by play services
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as i say'd i did played a little bit with microG services, but for example, even when reinstalling the apps afterwards, whatsapp does start, and you need to relogin, but on the restore backup screen nothing more happens, only loading forever, when microG Services are installed..
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maybe i found there a bug of whatsapp... as whatsapp trys to find google drive... but does not work correctly it loads forever... for some reason it looks like it ah hidden error message or something like this... i hit back a couple of times, and closed whatsapp and reopend, and suddenly i saw the no backup found page... anyway still all this is BS, i really hate huawei for not unlocking the bootloader, and let us just do what we like to do... there wouldn't even be an issue with GMS anymore as we simply could flash openGapps
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
hayals said:
So, you did found a new way, GMS + HMS enabled with no notification error? Am i right?
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So the statement is a bit misleading, this is not really GMS but its a way to use 3rd party play store apps that would not give notifications because of play services missing. This will only cover the notification portion of apps/apks originally found in the playstore that require notifications through play services push notifications. I have not touched HMS or anything else but this basically inserts a listener under microG to monitor push notifications and deliver them as needed. Again this does not resolve the issue of missing google APIs found in the full GMS package and is not intended to do so. Strictly notification wise for apps that need them.
Personally I used aurora store to get apks from playstore without needing playstore installed (because playstore version apps are looking to use googles push notification services) but how those apps function is another story. For example: Youtube/maps/google pay etc will not work as they need google apis. But 3rd party apps like discord, outlook email, and banking apps like capital one etc do work. Games might not because they might want play games api which is not present here since this is not GMS. (Tried to fun cytus 2 and a few other games and it wouldnt start since license check fails by default)
To my knowledge this will not work with any other GMS procedure attempted so you cannot combine this with a working GMS hacked install since you will have a version of play services and gsf framework active. Think of this as another alternative entirely in a way if you want to not risk questionable modifications and want to stay on default HMS software. Idk what the future holds as huawei seems to block ways to get GMS on phones after they become popular so I see this as an alternative to the unknown with pulled playstore apks functioning as they should.
GMS and this fix won't cooperate.
I've been using this for a while, but sadly not apps are giving me notifications. Reddit for example is not sending anything to my phone.
I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
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I did a factory reset on my P40 Pro followed the guide and when you wrote to add an account I do so, I press Agree and then it stays on
Just a sec
Your device is contacting Google to
save information on your account
This can take a couple of minutes
Sorry
There was a problem communicating with Google Servers
Try again later.
And anything like games that use google to login it fails too
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Unfortunatly for something like that theres too many factors at play to trouble shoot that from my end. I would say to try a different default browser/vpn it etc as it could be any number of reasons why google servers arent connecting for it. Games that use google wont work because this is not google play services replacement. This was only intended for getting notifications working with most* apps that rely on a simple push notification service through google play services. Unfortunatly this isnt a guarentee depending on the app itself and where its pulled from . This was why I use/suggest aurora store since its pulling the playstore version of the app which almost always relies on google services for notifications.
Some apps like discord, outlook etc have a manner of continuous notification scanning in the background processes to try to get itself to connect to a push service even if they give you the error that "the device does not have google services and might not work properly". I can confirm those are working as are my banking and authenticator apps. I had an issue with proton mail specifically where it wouldnt attempt another push notification check to register with microg like the previous apps and wont recieve notifications. Its not a magic bullet but helps where it works.
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If you have any google core packages installed (even as regular systemless apps) or leftovers from previous attempts at getting gms installed then it will conflict with microg installation since it sees it as a conflicting app. This requires a clean almost factory emui without any remnants of google installation attempts. Ill update the initial post for that bit of info.
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Thanks for the info
I still can't open google related apps like youtube or google app itself... Even with Vanced youtube, it is hard to keep up because I can't log in, so i can't have my subscriptions and updates. Also certain games can't be played because the data are connected to my Google Play
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..So does the MicroG method still work in 2021 or with the latest version of the OS?
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Yes it does work with EMUI11.
Only advantage it's easier to install and Get push Notification and not mush else.
Now This is the only way you can install with Vanced Manager
Sorry I keep banging on about this, but using my phone for payments is one of the most useful features that I'm now missing.
I tried several GW versions, and the update still gives me the dreaded "can't add card, contact bank" message.
So, I think the only option is to go through the hassle and switch bank.
For those in the UK using GW on the Vivo, which bank are you using?
I'm thinking Starling my be extra strict. My next choice would be Monzo, but might be the same issue.
Thanks
My wallet works with my Chase, NatWest, Starling and Virgin Money cards.
Make sure to try a card from the intended bank before switching. Ask a friend to register his card then delete again. Some banks you have to activate google pay in their online banking or smartphone app.
Chase works in the UK, have you checked that your bank is on the supported list from the wallet app
Does your device pass the Play Integrity API check?
Do you have the latest Google Services Framework and Google Play services installed? I initially experienced similar issues and installing the latest Google Play services package (which many posts don't mention) and rebooting solved everything.
Unfortunately I have neither Starling nor Monzo but you may have to enable something like 'contactless payments' in your banking app.
Hope this helps. Sorry if all of this is obvious.