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Hello,
I was wondering, what are the advantages of deodexing, aside from theming?
I've done some tests with my everyday stock ROM and found an odex ROM was faster. I understand that odex files are basically classes.dex, but specifically made for my platform, Android version and is not compressed, thus accelerating the start times.
I went as far as pushing the system apps updates in /system directly (by hand, I can tell you it gets old fast). But I still had low memory in /data. Then I remembered, automatic odex files are stored in dalvik-cache, and thus, when Maps, which has a very big odex file or so, first starts, even if it's on /system, you end up still needing space in /data to start.
So I searched how I could hand-do these odex files, and came across dexopt-wrapper. I loaded it up on my phone, and started odexing all these system apps that used to be odexed.
All in all, you lose room in /system (because odex+apk is slightly larger than the apk, but you're not supposed to have /system writable anyway), or you lose valuable space in /data, where you could put all your apps.
Basically:
I backed up my stuff with Titanium (after cleaning the cache). I was on Geo411m's ROM. I had around 25MB left on my phone.
I then reflashed FRG33 from the PASSIMG.zip
then updated with the FRG83D OTA (straight from Google, not through update.zip)
I updated all system apps through the Market
I used rageagainstthecage to shell root, to read the system and data partitions
I used dexopt-wrapper to create odex files for all the updated apks I had
I pushed everything in /system
Finally, I restarted. Before this, I booted Amon-RA's recovery to clear all the user data
I rooted (permanently this time), restored all my apps through Titanium Backup. I had 65 MB left. That's a 40 MB difference, just by odexing.
So now I wonder, knowing I don't plan on theming, is deodexing useful outside of this, and should I give up some space for something that eluded me?
Sorry for the lonnnnnng post
Thanks!
I'm not aware of any benefit of deodexeding, other than theming.
i've heard people say there is definitely a performance difference between the two, but i really dont know from personal experience. it probably doesnt matter for general usage...
I believe you're right, deodex takes up more of your internal space, which to me is a problem
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When I first flash a new rom from recovery the odex rom will start faster,but I cant feel any difference between odex and deodex rom on speed when my defy is on.
Aside from the first load, deodexed system runs at the same speed as odexed, or with negligible differences (not 100% sure if system-odexed files that are created in Dalvik-cache are the same as .odex that are in the apks).
The disadvantage of deodexed system is extra size of Dalvik-cache. While it can be quite a difference for those using N1's tiny internal space w/o any sort of A2SD solution, it's negligible for those running A2SD or on phones with proper internal memory size.
The advantage of deodexed system is being able to modify the apps themselves, and the framework. In addition to theming, it allows for different kinds of modifications - like trackball wake, or RTL (Hebrew/Arabic) framework patching.
Quite an old thread you managed to dig...
kingdragonfly said:
When I first flash a new rom from recovery the odex rom will start faster,but I cant feel any difference between odex and deodex rom on speed when my defy is on.
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Way to bump a 1.5 years old thread, lol.
Theshawty said:
Way to bump a 1.5 years old thread, lol.
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maybe because you all people tell noobs to serch and don't ask. and when i find 4 years old thread is still very usefull
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magik300 said:
maybe because you all people tell noobs to serch and don't ask. and when i find 4 years old thread is still very usefull
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You felt it was worth a two year bump just to convey that? Oh, ok.
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I don't know about a 2 year bump, but a 1 year bump to agree that this is a nice simple thread that is exactly what it says on the tin.
Lol
Lol
Is there any good resource I can be pointed to learn about the difference between Odex/Deodex?
nice info from this thread, thanks!
Hi
I would like to start automatically my Htc n1 when i put in the charger.
There are some methods on the internet,for some other phones.
Can someone tell me wich and how the folder i must modify?
My phone doesn't start when it's plugged in and take the battery out and put it back(i dont know why).
Sorry to write to you here, but I see you are very good at what you do.
I thought you could help me.
Thanks
Hi friends,
As we all know, sammy devices comes with lots of junks and bloats which hardly we use.
So, i was looking for a thread where i could find a way to debloat/remove excess system files from J7/6 but i was quite depressed when i found no link for my device. Although some nice techies have posted zip from other sources, i mean some debloater zips are directly posted here from s6 groups. And as we know that not all devices have same bloats or junks or having different names of same bloats.
That's why i tried to do some changes on a zip made by @TENN3R (Originally made by @ambasadii . Thanks both of you man) and finally come here with this work. Hope you'll love it.
Before flashing this zip, my device system part was showing 118mb space. After flashing zip modded by me, i got whopping 1.19gb free space in system.
All i can say is, your device system will have a great amount of space to breath which will surely show you result in battery life + performance (as per my experience I'm getting +15/20% battery life and performance is superb)
So, let's come to the point. There's attached zip, download it & move it to device internal storage/sdcard/usbotg. Reboot to recovery (your device must be rooted with TWRP recovery preinstalled). Flash this zip and wipe dalvik/cache. Reboot to system and you'll see that almost all junks is removed.
To know which apps it removes and if you want to keep some system apps, open zip, copy updater script on your pc, open updater script with notepad++, check all apps names one (takes hardly few minutes) and if you want to keep any app in system and don't want to remove it, just remove that whole line. For example, if you want to keep "GoogleContactsSyncAdapter", remove line contains that app name ? runs ("/sbin/rm", "-rf", "system/app/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter"); ? including semicolon same as shown here.
I suggest you to take backup of all apps (system/app & system/priv-app) so in case you want to restore any app, you can do it. It will remove some unwanted junk apps from csc folder also, (Yes it will remove bike mode too)
I have tested this zip few times on my device (SM-J710GN) and on one another device (SM-J710FN) and there's no any fc or issues. So i think it's worth trying.
But as we all say here, I'm not responsible if your device get bootloops, your wife hits you or your dog bites you for some reasons.
Do not forget to hit thanks button. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Link:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/624732/Modded_J7_DeBloater_MMv1.zip
Good work bro
i did not succeeded with installation of this zip. TWRP just said that it failed.
Good work! I must try it out.
Excellent! Works like a charm! Thank you a lot. I've done a video guide (sub Eng). Hope this can be helpful.
can we use an script like this to restoring or adding new apps to the system?
(instead of -rm -mv to another folder and restoring with -cp )
Hello can i use this firmware to my J700H?
bro can u tell me how can i remove s bike mode from my j7 2016
I get so mad when i see that s bike mode logo i didn't even use it plzz tell me
i can't download the file....can u upload here???
thanks
matrixrio said:
can we use an script like this to restoring or adding new apps to the system?
(instead of -rm -mv to another folder and restoring with -cp )
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ryu091 said:
Hello can i use this firmware to my J700H?
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someone can upload the file zip in another place? Thanks, is impossible to download there!
best regards
dacorsa said:
someone can upload the file zip in another place? Thanks, is impossible to download there!
best regards
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Here is the original zip file attached.
You should edit the script according to your needs before flash.
Because it also remove sbrowser, nfcui,sbike etc. etc.
matrixrio said:
Here is the original zip file attached.
You should edit the script according to your needs before flash.
Because it also remove sbrowser, nfcui,sbike etc. etc.
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Thanks you're a gentleman
Lost Network
I lost my sim networks, both Sim 1 and Sim 2 after flashing the zip file. Bad part is, I didn't make a back up before doing the process.
Can't not open ' Setting '
I know this thread was old thread,but I'm just want to asking why my J7 2016 can't open setting after i flash the debloater?
Hello everyone,
Galaxy A 2017 Series comes with much more bloatware than most other phones, it has apps preinstalled that some of us probably will never use.
Some of those apps may even run at boot and consume RAM and CPU. For this purpose I made a small very effective script and that will remove huge amount of applications. This script works on de-odexed and odexed ROMs and you can use it even for Marshmallow ROMs, so this is ALL-IN-ONE solution.
I created the script when Nougat came out and I use it all the time without any problems.
* You can easily edit script and add character ' # ' to exclude certain APP from deleting *
REMOVED STUFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UQ5RqlQSDXi9AZkKWhCdv21bTWNyDrx4Sf1jsbox-Nk/edit
Thanks!
But wow that are alot removed Apps?!
And i assume you'r are running smooth with no errors, awesome!
Worked like a charm!
No side effects or cons so far.
warning on SM-320F Dual Sim
a lot of apps will have errors
duffy64 said:
warning on SM-320F Dual Sim
a lot of apps will have errors
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I have the SM-320F Dual Sim model and I didn't encounter any issues at all.
Instructions to use........it's ok I just flash it. All looks good.
Tried on Nougat Sm-A510F. Seems fine. Thanks
Thank you for your work.
Yes, thank you very much for the good job! Works perfect!
problem: K9 mail, program open, when I open letter, program closed
Windforce0511 said:
Hello everyone,
Galaxy A 2017 Series comes with much more bloatware than most other phones, it has apps preinstalled that some of us probably will never use.
Some of those apps may even run at boot and consume RAM and CPU. For this purpose I made a small very effective script and that will remove huge amount of applications. This script works on de-odexed and odexed ROMs and you can use it even for Marshmallow ROMs, so this is ALL-IN-ONE solution.
I created the script when Nougat came out and I use it all the time without any problems.
* You can easily edit script and add character ' # ' to exclude certain APP from deleting *
REMOVED STUFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UQ5RqlQSDXi9AZkKWhCdv21bTWNyDrx4Sf1jsbox-Nk/edit
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Can you tell what is the difference with Package Disabled app?
What I ask is :
Your script permanently erases apps from the system and frees space-probably good for speed and battery
Package Disabler stop apps from running but not erases them from system,
on the other hand is very convenient to enable them when you need and disable again.
Personally I use your applist but in Package Disabler.
I think that your script would be the best solution if it could create a backup folder with erased apps so I could restore them anytime I needed
How to use the script?
amlbuton said:
How to use the script?
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Just flash it.
Windforce0511 said:
This script works on de-odexed and odexed ROMs and you can use it even for Marshmallow ROMs, so this is ALL-IN-ONE solution.
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Completely crashed my A320FL running 6.0.1 (odexed), I have to admit, I modified the script, so less apps would be deleted (added # in front of the lines as you recommended), but nothing else. The phone restarts within few seconds just after booting.
Flashed all the original apps through recovery and tons of "app closed" windows appear, which make phone completely unusable. Have to reflash it completely.
Any idea what happened? I attached my modified script below.
Man, do I hate Samsung's stock firmware...
Same here, rendered my SM-A320FL running 6.0.1 (stock Galaxy ROM) completely unusuable. It boots and starts up, but as soon as I unlock the SIM card, it reboots after 5 sec. Without using SIM card it's okay - but useless. And a few Galaxy Apps like Health, Note are still there...
I gave it a shot, reflashed my A320FL with a 6.0.1 stock rom and commented out a lot of entries in your script, and after that it worked. Interesting would be a diff between the original and the modified script, which of these deleted components would cause such behaviour on 6.0.1.
Will update to Nougat next and try your (unmodified) script again.
J.
I did the ROM update to Nougat and tried your script again. It works. So the "SIM-reboot-loop bug" on my A320FL seems to be occuring on Android 6 only.
One more question: does your script need root to properly remove all apps? Some Galaxy Apps are still there and running in the background (Health, Galaxy Widget...) and also Facebook App Manager/Installer.
Also I would like to keep the Google speech keyboard (speech to text, the "microphone symbol" in the keyboard), after your script it is gone. Any idea what is the name of the package, so I can comment it out? Is it GoogleTTS?
Thanks
Available on stock rom does not have to install TWRP
huma_mr said:
Available on stock rom does not have to install TWRP
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Use Package Disabled.
Dor71 said:
Use Package Disabled.
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you guide yourself is not.thank
Nice work.
I have just acquired a Samsung Galaxy A40 phone. In my opinion, it has one of the best size/price/performance ratios on the market, reason why I bough it.
However, one very sad point about it is that there is still no LineageOS or any other custom ROMs to this phone, forcing myself to stick to the Samsung ultra-bloated distribution.
Having to accept this fact, my first action was to clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others from Google, Linkedin, Facebook and anything not strictly necessary. I based my list on some available (find ref on the script), but I also added some other useful commands.
Let me know if this works out for you, and if you have any point to add to the list. Find it attached on the Gist below:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671e7e96a760e9b368992d6694a33d9
Before running it, I recommend reading the comments on the scrip, so that you dont end up without keyboard for example.
Hope it suites you!
By the way, do you have any information on when or if there is anybody working on a custom ROM (Lineage preferably) for this device?
EDIT:
There is no need to be root!
Disabling Galaxy A40 bloatware
joaofl said:
...clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others...
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Instead of removing system apps you can simply disable them which is easily reversible.
If the Disable button is grayed-out in the Settings > App > app's info see this XDA article: How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root using adb
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joaofl said:
I have just acquired a Samsung Galaxy A40 phone. In my opinion, it has one of the best size/price/performance ratios on the market, reason why I bough it.
However, one very sad point about it is that there is still no LineageOS or any other custom ROMs to this phone, forcing myself to stick to the Samsung ultra-bloated distribution.
Having to accept this fact, my first action was to clean the phone the best I could, by removing any unnecessary crap from Sansumg and others from Google, Linkedin, Facebook and anything not strictly necessary. I based my list on some available (find ref on the script), but I also added some other useful commands.
Let me know if this works out for you, and if you have any point to add to the list. Find it attached on the Gist below:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671e7e96a760e9b368992d6694a33d9
Before running it, I recommend reading the comments on the scrip, so that you dont end up without keyboard for example.
Hope it suites you!
By the way, do you have any information on when or if there is anybody working on a custom ROM (Lineage preferably) for this device?
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I need root permissions to do this
But will this run without rooting the phone?
EDIT: It works!
Beautiful.
I'm new with Galaxy A40, i'm really not a fan of Samsung but it was great to have the idea of making a phone lower than 15cm that is my need for lot of reasons.
I was just preparing to remove some system apps like bixby and samsung launcher, than i found out this script but... may you please give a description of most incomprehensible apps in the list?
Instructions
A big thanks to joaofl for getting this list together for us!!!
Here's some info that might help others...
- This article has info (it's further down in the page) on how to use the script (you copy and paste it into Windows command promt/cmd as admin and after installing ADB... link in the article below).
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/25/samsung-galaxy-s10-remove-bundled-bloatwares-without-root/
- There's a typo in the script... Lines 84 onwards on the code has a typo where it says 'pm' rather than 'adb'. Changing that before you paste it into cmd fixes it.
Charlie Cooper said:
A big thanks to joaofl for getting this list together for us!!!
Here's some info that might help others...
- This article has info (it's further down in the page) on how to use the script (you copy and paste it into Windows command promt/cmd as admin and after installing ADB... link in the article below).
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/25/samsung-galaxy-s10-remove-bundled-bloatwares-without-root/
- There's a typo in the script... Lines 84 onwards on the code has a typo where it says 'pm' rather than 'adb'. Changing that before you paste it into cmd fixes it.
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Indeed, there were some errors there. I updated the script now, and it should work better now.
and NO, you dont need to be root to run it.
I prefer to remove stuff instead of disabling it, as it free up some space. Worst case, you need to restore the phone.
Yesterday I disabled a lot of unnecessary apps on my Galaxy A40. At a certain point the device was locked an a message said something about "not authorised removal of billing/paying apps". I had to do a hard recovery because I could not enable any of the apps. In fact I could do nothing with the phone
I mention this because on all the lists I found on the internet the billing/paying apps are listed as bloatware/unnecessary which was not true in my case. My A40 is customised by hutchison (drei) maybe this has something to do with it.
edit: the package name which is locking the phone is
com.samsung.android.kgclient
HTH and have a nice day!
Does anyone know if a factory reset from Settings will restore all the apps removed via this process?
EDIT: It does.
Can you say which apps cannot be removed OR disabled?
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Can you say which apps cannot be removed OR disabled?
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Do not remove Samsung Payment Services (using root), if you do you will get a locked/unusable device, it will show 'Device locked because Payment services was uninstalled without authorization' and reflash will be needed.
Tony il Capo said:
Do not remove Samsung Payment Services (using root), if you do you will get a locked/unusable device, it will show 'Device locked because Payment services was uninstalled without authorization' and reflash will be needed.
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Thanks, I'll just stick to disabling apps until I get to know this phone a bit better! The battery monitor doesn't say I have anything chewing up CPU and I'm only losing a few % overnight on idle (even with LED notification fix) so I must have optimized a good bit already.
hello,
good idea !!
i have done the same with luckypatcher (need root)
i forgot this way.... easy with adb
thank you.
Hi, just uninstalled apps using ADB and the script from Page 1. All is fine, even though I forgot to install G-board beforehands, I just sent it from laptop to install on A 40 afterwards.
Amazing job. phone feels lighter and smooth now.
Thank you !!! @joaofl @curiousrom and @costa11
I want remove all samsung on my new galaxy A40, but:
I need to be root.???
I can backup first my original firmware??? And then if there are problems restore this backup??
I need simple use to consume los battery.
Thanks
ruloes said:
I want remove all samsung on my new galaxy A40, but:
I need to be root.???
I can backup first my original firmware??? And then if there are problems restore this backup??
I need simple use to consume los battery.
Thanks
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Adb doesn't need to be Rooted to be used
Just activate USB debugging(see tutorial about développer mode), and use cmd from your PC (and have adb.exe in a directory for sure)
Pay attention that the phone will Ask you to confirm the authentication as soon as you set "adb start-server"
For the backup, you have already asked it in another thread in which i answered you.
Envoyé de mon SM-A405FN en utilisant Tapatalk
I don’t understand the backup thread, where?
I did it with adb but now.... what else
ruloes said:
I don’t understand the backup thread, where?
I did it with adb but now.... what else
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I just recover all my files from another Samsung Galaxy to new A40 with own Samsung account backup . There is also Google backup but it is not complete . Samsung backup satisfied me a lot . Just register , sign in Samsung account and from phone settings click on backup .
No need root , of course .
Regarding removing bloatware there are plenty of tutorials on this subject . Just look for it . It's all about adb shell cmd and activate debugging mode from phone . You need also an apk inspector from Google Play to know for sure name of apk you want to uninstall . Don't touch system apks , lists with bloatwares can be uninstalled you can find here on xda (galaxy phones) .
Personally I remarked besides their importance , apks like Calendar and Google Search eat a lot battery . I don't need these apks so I got rid of those and another and I can say battery was semnifically improved . I use also dark mode (from usb debugging) , native digital wellbeing for nights and all-in-one tools apk for some special android characteristics like boost , boot , clean etc
It's important to mention all apks uninstalled still remained in android backup image so they can be restored from phone factory reset .
Succes !
I clean my A40 from the bloatware with the script and I lost the recents app screen of One UI.
Now my recent list is the stock of Android 9. Moreover I totally lost the recents screen when navbar is in gesture mode.
Someone can help me to understand which apk are related with my issue?
Script:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671...33d9#file-clean-samsung-galaxy-a40-bloatwares
Thank you for the efforts. I am a new buyer of A40 and I hope the community grow up!
mrmysterious said:
I clean my A40 from the bloatware with the script and I lost the recents app screen of One UI.
Now my recent list is the stock of Android 9. Moreover I totally lost the recents screen when navbar is in gesture mode.
Someone can help me to understand which apk are related with my issue?
Script:
https://gist.github.com/joaofl/7671...33d9#file-clean-samsung-galaxy-a40-bloatwares
Thank you for the efforts. I am a new buyer of A40 and I hope the community grow up!
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I suggest factory reset then remove again certain bloatware . Don't touch system apks . Also try to backup your system to Samsung Cloud .
Hi all.
Noob here on the forum, my very first post so i am not allowed to post this where i imagine this would belong - the 'Original Android development'. That's why it is posted here.
First of all, i wish to express my sincere gratitude to all you people that work hard on making it possible for rest of us mortals to make the best of those small devices that somehow managed to become so big parts of our lives.. I have been following the forum for a while and been using some things posted here to fiddle with several devices without actually bricking any of them as yet. And this is the first time i felt the need of actually asking for help and/or guidelines.
Anyhew - here's the thing: i still run a N910F on stock marshmallow as my main device. (Please no lectures about this). And lately i came to really, really resent mr.Google. I did make a Lineage version of the Android Pie work together with microG (without google), and that actually is rather sweet, runs smooth as silk. I run that on my backup N910F device. (Ok, so i am a Note 4 freek, sue me).
But for different reasons, actually mainly because i really appreciate the s-pen, i want to continue using stock rom on my daily driver so now i am looking for a google-free version of the stock marshmallow for the N910F (trlte) model. I tried to find it here on the forum, but i couldn't, or i couldn't understand the terminology. Haven't found in the rest of the internet either. So i would appreciate if somebody here could either:
1. point me to the direction of such a version if it's already existing, or
2. give me very specific information as to how i could de-google the stock rom by myself. Either on the device or in Windows. I haven't used adb or fastboot yet, but perhaps i could learn if i don't have to take a class in engineering first…
Or could i simply use Titanium backup and just delete (freeze first of course) all the apps that have 'google' in their name?
The third option is perhaps that some kind sould de-googles the stock rom for me and lets me download it. I would donate, of course.
I would really appreciate all the pointers you could give me.
Regards,
prkfsz
Nope, the N910F stock firmwares are definitely not de-Googled. Flash one for yourself and see. I would recommend flashing a LineageOS/AOSP-based ROM, they are generally Google-free.
If you are really insistent on running stock, then do this to completely de-Google it:
In Titanium backup, search for 'goo', this will find almost all Google apps on the ROM. Uninstall them.
Also, download the latest OpenGapps ARM 6.0 nano zip from opengapps.org. Extract the gapps-remove.txt file from the zip. Use the contents of that file as a reference, find all the files listed in it, manually delete them. The reason for this is that Titanium will miss some things.
Now you should be mostly if not entirely Google-free.
Once you have done that, you can optionally patch your ROM for signature spoofing support, and install MicroG, which is an open source Google Play Services alternative. These 2 steps are optional, your choice.
Very simple. I've done this before, things will work fine overall. But some things (apps) requiring Google components may not work correctly, if at all. MicroG can help mitigate this to an extent. You've been warned.
I'm running Resurrection Remix Nougat v5.8.5 (Android 7.1.2), SPen works fine here. Every app I've tested that can use the pen, works fine. There is really no reason to stay with stock just for pen functionality. I also like the huge amount of customization options that RR has compared to stock. And I can use Substratum (no go on stock) with all black themes, for battery savings.
Thank you! Wasn't aware of the google-remove.txt file within gapps. Will definitelly use it. Otherwise it's like i thought: use Titanium and just go loose on everything that starts with 'go'...
I know about microG and use it regularly. Happy customer…
I do like stock marshmallow on note 4 and want to run it as long as it can go. I will perhaps try the RR nougat you suggested on the backup unit. Even tho i am in no particular need of customisation.
Thanx again.
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Thank you! Wasn't aware of the google-remove.txt file within gapps. Will definitelly use it. Otherwise it's like i thought: use Titanium and just go loose on everything that starts with 'go'...
I know about microG and use it regularly. Happy customer…
I do like stock marshmallow on note 4 and want to run it as long as it can go. I will perhaps try the RR nougat you suggested on the backup unit. Even tho i am in no particular need of customisation.
Thanx again.
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You might find this of some interest.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-degoogle-device-install-microg-t4058743
I'm afraid i got stuck here and i need a bit further assistance.. :-/
Coming from stock marshmallow on Galaxy Note 4. I uninstalled google things first using Titanium. Then manually cleaned some leftovers using file manager in TWRP (not sure i did the right way), altho it looked quite empty in the /system map. Another time erased just the Google Play-services before going to TWRPs file manager and it looked just as empty. At both occasions i lost auto-rotate. Is this normal?
After deleting all the google (and in the second try only google play services app) i tried just for the heck of it to run the Nanodroid patch file but i got an error message that it couldnt deodex services.jar file, which was pretty much expected. My skills are not sufficient for deodexing files so i tried other approaches for patching. Smalipatcher - the damn thing couldn't even see i had admin privileges in Win no matter what i did and just refused to run alltogether.
Then i tried the link that was put here by @MrJavi in the post above (thank you sir!). Did everything as the tutorial says, got no error message, everything seemed to run smooth and the apps i chose were installed. (altho TWRP did freeze a couple of times during aroma setup so i had to reset by taking out the battery). When i wanted to set up the microG settings, the microG icon and the app is nowhere to be found. The modul named NanoDroid exists and is activ in Magisk, but it's not possible to open it.
Last, but not least of course, i tryied patching with fake gapps module in Xposed, but Xposed of course does not want to play nice with mr.Samsung. Even when i try and run Xposed from Magisk...
Not sure how to proceed from here.. I'm thinking of switching my starting point to the already deodexed version of marshmallow i thought i saw around here, because it would be easier to patch.
If it's still out there available for download, which i don't take for granted anymore nowadays..
But i would like to make it work on my device anyway. So, if anyone has any ideas, they will be so welcome.
Perhaps Samsung knox is causing issues with Xposed framework/installer. The link below is for a different "Samy" but the the Knox remover is a flashablw .zip made specifically for the Note 4 .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....-how-to-deodex-root-remove-knox-t3458921/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....al/toad-source-android-deodexer-t3848307/amp/
Always take a full Nandroid backup by checking all partition beforehand and save to your external sd card. You can then choose to flaah an Aroma Google debloater .zip .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/aroma-google-services-debloater-t3668456
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Perhaps Samsung knox is causing issues with Xposed framework/installer. The link below is for a different "Samy" but the the Knox remover is a flashablw .zip made specifically for the Note 4 .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....-how-to-deodex-root-remove-knox-t3458921/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....al/toad-source-android-deodexer-t3848307/amp/
Always take a full Nandroid backup by checking all partition beforehand and save to your external sd card. You can then choose to flaah an Aroma Google debloater .zip .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/aroma-google-services-debloater-t3668456
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wow, those were really some good links! thanks, @mr.javi. However....
tried the first link and to work with firmware but the ext4uninstaller does not want to recognize the ext4 file (wtf??), regardless from where i download the software and regardless what ext4 file and from what firmware (tested a few), and without that part working it was pretty much impossible to go on. So i ran only the deknoxing tool through twrp. No error. But still when i try and install the xposed - boom! it will not boot. Not even damn zip uninstaller for magisk will work as it should..
Tried the second link with the TOAD. Weird: some versions get recognized as malware by my antivirus and windows does not want to run other versions for safety reasons. Strange..
Tried the third and that de-googling script is rather sweet.
But my conclusion from all this is that it is not so hard to exorcise the google, but to patch the rom in the next step... If i understand correctly i have to get the rom deodexed first to be able to patch it with nanodroid?
I tried some deodexing tools on pc, but i'm not really sure if i'm doing it correctly. I take it i have to copy some folders (/apps, /framework and one more) from the phone to the computer to work with them there, but i get error message when i try to copy files through file manager in twrp. Am i supposed to do it some other way? And can you do that directly in the phone? I tried an app called 3c -all in one-toolbox that has native option of deodexing but i get error message there, something about classes i think, i don't remember and i can't see it now cause the phone is just being reflashed..
Any more thoughts and ideas? As usual, grateful for anything you can give me.
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Once you have done that, you can optionally patch your ROM for signature spoofing support, and install MicroG, which is an open source Google Play Services alternative. These 2 steps are optional, your choice.
Very simple. I've done this before, things will work fine overall. But some things (apps) requiring Google components may not work correctly, if at all. MicroG can help mitigate this to an extent. You've been warned.
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HOW?! did you manage to patch it??
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wow, those were really some good links! thanks, @mr.javi. However....
tried the first link and to work with firmware but the ext4uninstaller does not want to recognize the ext4 file (wtf??), regardless from where i download the software and regardless what ext4 file and from what firmware (tested a few), and without that part working it was pretty much impossible to go on. So i ran only the deknoxing tool through twrp. No error. But still when i try and install the xposed - boom! it will not boot. Not even damn zip uninstaller for magisk will work as it should..
Tried the second link with the TOAD. Weird: some versions get recognized as malware by my antivirus and windows does not want to run other versions for safety reasons. Strange..
Tried the third and that de-googling script is rather sweet.
But my conclusion from all this is that it is not so hard to exorcise the google, but to patch the rom in the next step... If i understand correctly i have to get the rom deodexed first to be able to patch it with nanodroid?
I tried some deodexing tools on pc, but i'm not really sure if i'm doing it correctly. I take it i have to copy some folders (/apps, /framework and one more) from the phone to the computer to work with them there, but i get error message when i try to copy files through file manager in twrp. Am i supposed to do it some other way? And can you do that directly in the phone? I tried an app called 3c -all in one-toolbox that has native option of deodexing but i get error message there, something about classes i think, i don't remember and i can't see it now cause the phone is just being reflashed..
Any more thoughts and ideas? As usual, grateful for anything you can give me.
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You're very welcome @prkfsz
https://mtkcustomroms.com/deodex-stock-rom-custom-rom-without-pc-2018/
https://how-to-easily-deodex-android-stock-rom-without-pc/
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You're very welcome @prkfsz
https://mtkcustomroms.com/deodex-stock-rom-custom-rom-without-pc-2018/
https://************/how-to-easily-deodex-android-stock-rom-without-pc/
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Thanx again, @Mr. JAVI! :good:
Both links are about the same app and i've tried that one recently, so it seems like we think rather alike.
I get the exact same error message like the guy that wrote that one comment at the bottom of the second link (error saying "needs rebuild classes.dex").
And strangely enough when i open the deodexing window in the app it says that of the number of apps in the rom not all are odexed (says something like "deodexed 124/187"), which is rather perplexing because it's on the freshly installed stock (from nandroid backup directly after factory reset). So I tried to fool the app and get all the apps odexed first, but that didn't fly either..
Btw, thanks for the advice before - i always back the device upp (all partitions) before messing with it.. I forgot to do that on one device before and instantly regretted it..
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Edit: the second link in your last post was dead so i tried to correct it in my message, but xda forum doesn't like that.
Tried to post in the right link here in the message too, but that didn't work either for some reason.
but searching the phrase 'how to easily deodex Android stock rom without pc' will give you the first search result.
Oat2dex.jar
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....eral/tool-deodex-tool-android-l-t2972025/amp/
https://github.com/testwhat/SmaliEx/releases
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prkfsz said:
Thanx again, @Mr. JAVI! :good:
Both links are about the same app and i've tried that one recently, so it seems like we think rather alike.
I get the exact same error message like the guy that wrote that one comment at the bottom of the second link (error saying "needs rebuild classes.dex").
And strangely enough when i open the deodexing window in the app it says that of the number of apps in the rom not all are odexed (says something like "deodexed 124/187"), which is rather perplexing because it's on the freshly installed stock (from nandroid backup directly after factory reset). So I tried to fool the app and get all the apps odexed first, but that didn't fly either..
Btw, thanks for the advice before - i always back the device upp (all partitions) before messing with it.. I forgot to do that on one device before and instantly regretted it..
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Edit: the second link in your last post was dead so i tried to correct it in my message, but xda forum doesn't like that.
Tried to post in the right link here in the message too, but that didn't work either for some reason.
but searching the phrase 'how to easily deodex Android stock rom without pc' will give you the first search result.
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Well to tell you the truth, even a full Nandroid backup couldn't fix a dm-verity/drk issue on one of my Note 4's. Up until then I have always recovered from softbricking my devices. Stubborn as I am, I spent hours and hours and hours o no avail. I connected my other N4 but still kept trying to revive my old N4. It wasn't until a year and a half later, assisting another member that I came across a possible solution and it worked. Spent more time than my old N4 was worth but my record is untarnished non the less. lol I sure hope you never ever encounter either of thoughts @prkfsz .
Mr. JAVI said:
Oat2dex.jar
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....eral/tool-deodex-tool-android-l-t2972025/amp/
https://github.com/testwhat/SmaliEx/releases
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Well to tell you the truth, even a full Nandroid backup couldn't fix a dm-verity/drk issue on one of my Note 4's. Up until then I have always recovered from softbricking my devices. Stubborn as I am, I spent hours and hours and hours o no avail. I connected my other N4 but still kept trying to revive my old N4. It wasn't until a year and a half later, assisting another member that I came across a possible solution and it worked. Spent more time than my old N4 was worth but my record is untarnished non the less. lol I sure hope you never ever encounter either of thoughts @prkfsz .
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And i thought i was stubborn for this, insisting on tweaking an age-old os and spending hours on looking for solutions.. thank you!
Not sure about what that issue you mentioned was, since i'm not really on that experience level, but i'm sure it was a mean one.. lol Good job of fixing it! I ended up a few times in similar situations (not with that high level issues apparently) and i just couldn't let go untill i resolved them or bricked them completelly... Luckily haven't bricked anything even tho i play mostly with older devices so it wouldn't be such a waste. But as you too apparently feel - unblemished record is a matter of pride..
And yes, i too recently understood that nandroid backup isn't allmighty - it can't for instance save certain safety settings, fingerprints and such. I always thought of nandroid backup like a 'clone' feature on PC. Loved that..
Aanyhew - back to business.
I hit the wall here again, the same one as with Fulmics deodexer. It's not that it isn't working, it's that i don't know how to point it to the right maps for deodexing.
As far as i understand, i have to copy those 3 folders from the phone to the PC, do the deodexing on the pc, and then move back to the phone and replace the original folders. Is this correct? I tried doing this in TWRPs file manager using micro sd card, but i gott error message that it wouldn't copy all the files for some reason. Should i use some other method of copying those folders to the PC?
Perhaps a stupid question but is there any way to let the deodexer on the pc find the folders directly on the phone?
As always - a huge thank you from the struggling noob, @Mr. JAVI. :good:
Perhaps this is the Xposed framework and installer that might be compatible with your N910f
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/unofficial-xposed-v87-3-magisk-v18-t3897017/amp/
As far as TWRP you might be able to patch it and save internal data with Tipatch apk. The drawback is you backups will be much larger.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....pp-twrp-tipatch-backup-internal-t3831217/amp/
PS: Thsnks for the compliment my friend but I'm still learning. Modifications is just a hobby of mine. We learn from each other here on XDA.
PC : skills are not my strong point . Your skills with PC far
exceed your ability. I actually bought a laptop years ago, just so I could flash TWRP Odin and root . The complete ssd laptop cost alot more than my Note 4. I port or create my own flashable .zips. Although, I've never been faced with having to deodex a custom rom, simply because there readily available from the developers on xda for the n910p. Sucks there hasn't been one developed for your n910f.
Something posted by @IBNobody
"Anything past Magisk v15.3 will not pass SafetyNet on QI5.*
Magisk v15.4+ added a check in its Magiskhide subsystem that looks a service (logd) to be loaded. That service is not running on our stock or slightly modified QI5 build. If this service check fails, Magiskhide does not get loaded. If Magiskhide is not running, it can't hide Magisk from the SafetyNet checks.
(You'll know if this is affecting you because the Magisk Manager app won't remember any settings you make in the Magisk Hide tab.)*
Our only options are:
1. Build our own fork of Magisk that skips this check.
2. Enable logd by modifying the init.rc file in boot.img. (logd is commented out. I have not tried un-commenting it.)
3. Remain on v15.3."
DQ15 is the Sprint firmware 6.0.1 and not n910f but it could be the same with yours as well.
A slightly lower version Xpoaed framework api 23
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862685344
Mr. JAVI said:
Perhaps this is the Xposed framework and installer that might be compatible with your N910f
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/unofficial-xposed-v87-3-magisk-v18-t3897017/amp/
As far as TWRP you might be able to patch it and save internal data with Tipatch apk. The drawback is you backups will be much larger.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....pp-twrp-tipatch-backup-internal-t3831217/amp/
PS: Thsnks for the compliment my friend but I'm still learning. Modifications is just a hobby of mine. We learn from each other here on XDA.
PC : skills are not my strong point . Your skills with PC far
exceed your ability. I actually bought a laptop years ago, just so I could flash TWRP Odin and root . The complete ssd laptop cost alot more than my Note 4. I port or create my own flashable .zips. Although, I've never been faced with having to deodex a custom rom, simply because there readily available from the developers on xda for the n910p. Sucks there hasn't been one developed for your n910f.
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Laptop cost way over Note 4? I see i'm not the only one..... ehh, let's say determined bloke around here haha.. Hope it was worth it.. And btw creating your own flashable zips is way above my level of skills, i can tell you that, my friend. Never did that, nor am i planning to. But since i am stubborn (or so i've heard.. lol) and i feel uttermost distaste for mrGoogle and, like you said, noone has apparently done the deodexing the stock N910F - I am simply forced to take matters into my own hands. Flashing a pie and microG is ... apparently too easy. Besides, i am already running that on one of my spare Note 4s.. And i appreciate xda, just like you say people can give each other a hand. What i dislike tho is lots of dead download links... Oh, well..
ok, back to business again.
I guess i am going to need a more detailed help now.
I tried with that version of Framework you linked to. At that page the link for Xposed installer app for Magisk is dead. Tried to play a little with the other file, the version 87.3 of Xposed and just flashed it in TWRP, but nothing happens.
As far as the Tipatch, excuse my ignorance but i have to ask here: what difference would it make for deodexing to be able to copy internal storage? I am thinking it's other folders that need to be copied, like /system.
Apart from that, i love the idea of Tipatch! Will install it anyway.
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I am beginning to realize that there are not many reasonable options left, since i'm not sure it is worth much more time and effort on my part. I am not going to be an engineer over this..
So there is but one more question to perhaps get solved before i run out of options and go with custom Pie anyway.
And that is - how do i copy the needed 3 folders intact to PC for deodexing software? I can't find that information anywhere together with this pc based deodexers.
Oh well. I have vague memory of ES file manager being mentioned somewhere. So i guess that will be my last attempt before i give up. Unless some new solution emerges.
Mr. JAVI said:
Something posted by @IBNobody
"Anything past Magisk v15.3 will not pass SafetyNet on QI5.*
Magisk v15.4+ added a check in its Magiskhide subsystem that looks a service (logd) to be loaded. That service is not running on our stock or slightly modified QI5 build. If this service check fails, Magiskhide does not get loaded. If Magiskhide is not running, it can't hide Magisk from the SafetyNet checks.
(You'll know if this is affecting you because the Magisk Manager app won't remember any settings you make in the Magisk Hide tab.)*
Our only options are:
1. Build our own fork of Magisk that skips this check.
2. Enable logd by modifying the init.rc file in boot.img. (logd is commented out. I have not tried un-commenting it.)
3. Remain on v15.3."
DQ15 is the Sprint firmware 6.0.1 and not n910f but it could be the same with yours as well.
A slightly lower version Xpoaed framework api 23
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862685344
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Ok, i managed to actually copy the system directory from the phone to the pc using Root explorer app. And none of the deodexers work. Fulmics says it needs smali and baksmali versions over 2.2 even tho i fed it with versions 2.4. SVADeodexerforart runs through all the files without actually doing anything. Logfile shows error 'cannot acces jar file' on all 300+ files.
So i believe this is it for me at this point. I just can't see how further struggle would be meaningsfull since it would just take even more time and i already invested way too much of it on this. But i guess being stubborn has it's price.. :silly:
I want to extend my sincere gratitude, @Mr. JAVI, for your patience, tips and guidelines. I think if it wasn't for you i would given up much quicker.. Which perhaps would've been a smart thing to do... But i wouldn't learn anything..
We will probably bump into each other more times here, since we seem to share the common affection towards a certain gadget.
all the best to you
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Ok, i managed to actually copy the system directory from the phone to the pc using Root explorer app. And none of the deodexers work. Fulmics says it needs smali and baksmali versions over 2.2 even tho i fed it with versions 2.4. SVADeodexerforart runs through all the files without actually doing anything. Logfile shows error 'cannot acces jar file' on all 300+ files.
So i believe this is it for me at this point. I just can't see how further struggle would be meaningsfull since it would just take even more time and i already invested way too much of it on this. But i guess being stubborn has it's price.. :silly:
I want to extend my sincere gratitude, @Mr. JAVI, for your patience, tips and guidelines. I think if it wasn't for you i would given up much quicker.. Which perhaps would've been a smart thing to do... But i wouldn't learn anything..
We will probably bump into each other more times here, since we seem to share the common affection towards a certain gadget.
all the best to you
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I am just one of the "common folk". One of my hobbies is modifying my rooted Note 4. I have learned from my failures as well. The creating custom zips is not as hard as you think, in fact it was a failed camera .zip fash that ended in FC's. I came up with an idea to take the previous working camera .zip. left the meta-imf and replaced tge rest with an N7 camera from another rom and fkashed it. It's much easier explained with screen shots.
One of my favourite apps is ZArchiver apk. Downliad it and you'll see why. Ext4, tar, zip, roms, jar, apks and more. Freaking Awesome!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...pk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_YUIBX4STE-aD9PwPh7ylmAg
Its like gold and did I mention free? lol
Welcome to XDA @prkfsz
Mr. JAVI said:
I am just one of the "common folk". One of my hobbies is modifying my rooted Note 4. I have learned from my failures as well. The creating custom zips is not as hard as you think, in fact it was a failed camera .zip fash that ended in FC's. I came up with an idea to take the previous working camera .zip. left the meta-imf and replaced tge rest with an N7 camera from another rom and fkashed it. It's much easier explained with screen shots.
One of my favourite apps is ZArchiver apk. Downliad it and you'll see why. Ext4, tar, zip, roms, jar, apks and more. Freaking Awesome!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...pk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_YUIBX4STE-aD9PwPh7ylmAg
Its like gold and did I mention free? lol
Welcome to XDA @prkfsz
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Why thank you good sir, @Mr. JAVI! :good:
Every noob should get this friendly a welcome..
See? All that meta-inf, FC-talk is a bit over my lever right now. But i will check out your tool. Might come in handy for some future project. And free it is you say? Sold! haha
As for this project i had, i had to abandon it for now. I realized it wasn't the degoogling that was the problem, but the patching afterwards, and the deodexing that turned out to be downright impossible to get done. And it just gotten too time-consuming in relation to how much time i actually have and how much win i would get out of it. So i took the easy way for now and i went with the custom Pie. I do want the audio from the headphones..
@prkfsz: I used Tingle patch to integrate signature spoofing. You have a few options:
Tingle patch (requires deodexed framework.jar)
Needle patch (requires deodexed framework.jar)
Nanodroid patcher (requires deodexed services.jar)
Haystack patch (requires deodexed services.jar)
Smali patcher (services.jar can be odexed or deodexed, it will deodex and patch the file for you)
FakeGApps (requires Xposed)
Options 1/2/4/5 require a PC. Options 3/6 can be done on device without PC.
Hope this helps!
I don't really have a lot of time to go into detail, but if either of you are looking for a comprehensive way to properly deodex a ROM, check out SuperR's Kitchen. There a free and paid/donate versions. The free version can do what you want just fine.
I had recently used this to deodex the latest stock MM UK firmware for the N910F. In addition to deodexing, the Kitchen can also customize your ROM, and even build a zip that you can flash in TWRP. It flashed and booted fine for me. Once you have done this, you can debloat the ROM (or let the Kitchen do it for you). It won't remove all Google stuff by default, but you can configure it to delete pretty much any file/directory in the system partition. My advice is to use the Kitchen's debloater/Knox removal features, then use gapps-remove.txt and a root file manager to delete the rest. Once you have debloated/deodexed, you can then easily signature spoof patch with any of the tools I mentioned in my previous post.
I have also discovered that you can also run the Tingle patch without a PC, by using QPython3 app. Just supply the deodexed framework.jar and build.prop, it will do the rest. Grab the Tingle master zip from GitHub, unpack it into QPython3's scripts directory on the internal storage, then provide the 2 files into input folder, and run main.py from within the app. You will find the patched jar file in output folder, replace your ROM's framework.jar with the patched one. Use Signature Spoofing Checker to confirm that it worked. I don't think root is required, but it's better to have it anyway, just enable root in QPython3 settings.
Some last notes: don't use Titanium to debloat Google apps, it may also remove some needed shared library files that Android uses. Namely, a library file called libgnustl_shared.so, which will cause autorotation to not work. Use Titanium to determine the locations of Google apps, then delete them manually. This will keep the shared library files while still deleting the apps. On top of this, use gapps-remove.txt.
But while you are debloating, there may be 2 Google apps present that you should not remove, period:
/system/app/WebViewGoogle
/system/priv-app/GooglePackageInstaller
The first is needed by Android and apps to provide webview functionality (this might not sound important, but it is). The 2nd is needed to install apps, remove it and you won't be able to install any app from anywhere (Play Store, manual APK install, etc).
On the subject of Xposed, do *NOT* install the Xposed installer from the Magisk Manager downloads. It isn't designed to work on stock Samsung MM firmware, you won't be able to boot. Use the custom Xposed by wanam (available on XDA). Or you can google for "Xposed kevintm78", this will come up with an AndroidFileHost link that you can install from Magisk. The latter is just a systemless Magisk version of Wanam's Xposed.