With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
crutzulee said:
With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
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Yeah, there is a thread here on that. Pretty sure it involves copying downloaded offline phone off phone to watch
Holy Shaving Cream!! This works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549644
I now have a complete sms solution on the gear! I can easily receive texts and reply via voice commands without bluetooth tethering!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559197
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559197
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I'm also working on a round inflatable tube that a carriage can be placed upon to better move people about!
I really did search before posting...lol..
OK, I'll go one better....When added to the Google Now Launcher, we can now have totally hands free phone use. Simply getsure to look at your watch and say "OK Google....Call MOM" ...and your watch will call your mother! :laugh:
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OK, I'll go one better....When added to the Google Now Launcher, we can now have totally hands free phone use. Simply getsure to look at your watch and say "OK Google....Call MOM" ...and your watch will call your mother! :laugh:
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Curious what's your battery life like with that setup
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Curious what's your battery life like with that setup
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Just set it up an hour ago... I have a full day at work tomorrow so I'll test it then and post results...
Everyday since I've had the watch I have added some new functionality. I've been amazed at how little battery life has been impacted since I started toggling bluetooth tethering which seems to be the largest drainer of battery on my setup.
I'm on the latest Null ROM. So far I have my gear connected via bluetooth to the original galxy note. I have the wake gesture set to on so that the Gear actually functions as watch. I have bluetooth tethering toggled on/off via a widget. I have Tablet Talk setup so that I can send and receive texts. I have offline voice recognition setup so that I can use voice typing even when not connected to the internet ( so that I can actually reply to texts without having to use the tiny keyboard ).
With this setup, I still have about 50% battery life after an 18 hour day. I've now added the Google Now Launcher in order to use the "OK GOOGLE" voice commands..We'll see tomorrow how much of an effect this has on battery. :laugh:
@crultzulee I'm glad to see you got the gear up and running on the og note!
How did you guys get Voice Search installed into your Gear in the first place?
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How did you guys get Voice Search installed into your Gear in the first place?
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First, make a distinction between S-voice and Google Now/Search Voice recognition. S-voice is a Samsung proprietary solution that requires a touchwiz framework. I believe that this requires S-voice (and thus touchwiz) to be enabled on both devices (phone and Gear).
What I have running is the Google Now/Search voice regonition. The option for Google Now is provided in the Aroma installer for Null Rom. That gets you basic functionality.
I have chosen to sideload the most recent apk for Google Search and the Google Now Launcher for greater functionality. You should also download the offline language pack as per the link provided above. This allows you to use voice search and voice dictation in any app that uses the google keyboard (like Tablet Talk).
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@crultzulee I'm glad to see you got the gear up and running on the og note!
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With the information provided here, I have turned this impulse buy "toy" into something that is becoming more and more integrated into my daily life.
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First, make a distinction between S-voice and Google Now/Search Voice recognition. S-voice is a Samsung proprietary solution that requires a touchwiz framework. I believe that this requires S-voice (and thus touchwiz) to be enabled on both devices (phone and Gear).
What I have running is the Google Now/Search voice regonition. The option for Google Now is provided in the Aroma installer for Null Rom. That gets you basic functionality.
I have chosen to sideload the most recent apk for Google Search and the Google Now Launcher for greater functionality. You should also download the offline language pack as per the link provided above. This allows you to use voice search and voice dictation in any app that uses the google keyboard (like Tablet Talk).
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Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Google now and Google Dictation are 2 different things.
You can use google dictation if you get the language offline.
Eg you can use the voice key on the keyboard offline to work for apps to handle dictation.
The fancier stuff needs Google Now to be connected to the internet. If you want to use "Ok Google, call mom" that requires Google Now to connect to the net for the contextual recognition.
I have the older setup so I have to press a button for google Now to work but it works to take notes, create reminders and phone calling.
You can use Wondershare to side load the Google Now launcher and the new Voice search and anything else you want.
lazer9 said:
Tried this before with the en-US bit and permissions and it didn't work. When pressing Google to enter Google Now and hitting voice Icon, it says something about no network available. Do I need this newer Google Search app you said you sideloaded? If so where/how to obtain it? I'm not worried about the Launcher at this moment, just want the Google Now Voice to work without being tethered to the internet. :angel:
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Not sure about the en-US folder that is linked to in Brendo link, but if you follow the thread in my link, I was able to get that version working after setting the permissions wit es-file explorer..
tebore said:
Google now and Google Dictation are 2 different things.
You can use google dictation if you get the language offline.
Eg you can use the voice key on the keyboard offline to work for apps to handle dictation.
The fancier stuff needs Google Now to be connected to the internet. If you want to use "Ok Google, call mom" that requires Google Now to connect to the net for the contextual recognition.
I have the older setup so I have to press a button for google Now to work but it works to take notes, create reminders and phone calling.
You can use Wondershare to side load the Google Now launcher and the new Voice search and anything else you want.
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Most of the Google Now functions require internet connection. One notable exception is the one you mentioned. With the offline voice recognition enabled, you can actually say " OK Google...call mom" and the gear will call your mother through your phone WITHOUT bluetooth tehering to the internet enabled...We can't yet get google now to send texts because we are relyin on a third party app (tablet talk) to do this.
Ok, I'm beginning to half understand this. Pardon me because I have a bad fault of overthinking things.
The bit about using the voice button on the keyboard has me stumped. I don't have this as I use Flesky as I hear many others use on the gear or am I missing a setting within it somewhere?
And I must have misunderstood one of @crutzulee 's posts somewhere, but I swore he said he can simply use dictation - as in voice talk to Google Now Search OFFLINE (non-tethered) within it's app and say "Call Mom", ect...
OK, just as there needs to be a distinction between S-voice and Google Voice recognition there needs to be a distinction between bluetooth connection and bluetooth internet tethering. The former just means that the Gear is connected to the phone and can have access to its basic telephone functions. The latter refers to sharing your phones full blown internet connection so that apps on the gear can use the internet as they would on any android device.
Google search is an app/widget that allows one to search the internet and ALSO has some local functionality built in. It's widget has a microphone option that allows the Gear to "listen" to your query. It can then send the captured voice to googles servers over the internet for recognition and processing of your request. If you have the language pack downloaded locally, then it can do the recognition part on the device without uploading to google's servers. If your request is something that the device can do locally , it will. If it can't do that function locally, you will get a message saying that it cannot reach google's servers or something to that effect.
In the instance where you say "OK Google...Call mom" , google search will process your input locally (provided you have the offline language pack installed) . As this function does not require an internet connection and can be processed locally (provided you have the gear connected via bluetooth), the gear will open it's phone app and place your call (provided that you have a contact called "mom" with an associated phone number).
I should clarify, that if you only install the google search app/widget with the offline language pack, you will have to manually press on the microphone on the widget to get it to listen to you.
The advantage of having the Google Now Launcher, is that the mic is always listening for the words "OK Google" when you are on any of the launcher's home page. Thus you can place a phone call with a simple flick of your wrist, and utterance of the "OK Google...call Mom" command. All this WITHOUT be tethered to the internet.
I am running my Gear this way today to test for battery drain. I have sent and received a few phone calls and have noticed only a slight increase in battery drain over my use yesterday which was setup in a similiar way with the exception of the Google Now Launcher installed and always listening..
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With Tablet Talk working for full blown sms on the gear, the need to be able to reply to texts on the gear becomes more important. For those of us that can't use s-voice, google voice recognition works amazingly well but requires battery hogging bluetooth tethering.
Has anyone been able to get offline google voice recognition working?
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I just recieved my gear and installed the newest null rom and would love to set it up like you have sounds pretty cool!
If you have a Bluetooth headset, and you try to use to with LG's HORRIBLE voice assistant, it recognizes your commands about 1% of the time; totally not acceptable.
On other phones, Google Now comes up when you activate voice command; on this phone, I have tried EVERYTHING, but I can't get the LG voice command to not be the default action when I activate a voice command.
Has any one found a way to change this, either with other software, or by making some system changes?
On kitkat, on T Mobile, using a Plantronics Voyage Edge
Thanks!
I simply swipe up from the bottom and use Google Now. You probably can't change LG's voice assistant to use Google Now's speech engine.
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I simply swipe up from the bottom and use Google Now. You probably can't change LG's voice assistant to use Google Now's speech engine.
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There MAY be a way to do it kind of like how you can change the voice of Google Nav from the standard one to like Darth Vader and whatnot. Idk if anyone has attempted this BUT it might be worth a shot. maybe the actual application can be modified to reroute to Google Now instead of the base LG application. i might poke around to see what i can find
thanks; there are a couple of apps in the play store that used to do this for me with my HTC One Maxx, but they dont do anything for this phone; there are about 5 or 6 files that are related to LG's horrible "voice mate" app, but, with no way to restore my 4.4 rom if deleting any important files screws things up, I am hesitant to start deleting system files.
How is Google now for this? I read about moto voice...but what if I want to use strictly Google now, is this possible? Also, while the phone is locked/screen off is it possible to say 'okay google' and have it activate?
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How is Google now for this? I read about moto voice...but what if I want to use strictly Google now, is this possible? Also, while the phone is locked/screen off is it possible to say 'okay google' and have it activate?
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With the exception of actual Moto Assist commands everything is pipped over to Google Now.
So if I use my activation phrase and say a Moto command such as: "What's up" that will stay on the phone and tell me about appointments and messages that I received. However if I say something outside of the listed commands like: "how far is the moon away from the Earth" it will tell me that it's opening Google and I will get the answer from Google.
As for using the standard "okay Google". I tried setting that up as my phrase. The phone complained that there wasn't enough syllables. So I just went with the suggested: Okay Google Now.
And yes, it works with the screen off. I've had it mostly work even while in my coat. Though it wasn't 100%. But to it's credit. I have a pretty thick leather coat and the phone screen is always facing me.
Also a drawback (for me at least) is sometimes I don't hear the little chime that lets me know that it's waiting for a command. So I end up saying the phrase twice thinking that it didn't hear me and then I will hear that it's searching Google.
I think it uses Google Now API
It sure seems to me that moto voice is actually using google now. I installed bluetooth launch (but didn't need to use it, other than to remove Voice Dialer as the default bluetooth button launch). Then when pushing the bluetooth button I could launch my choice of Moto Voice or Google Now. The Ok Google does work with this phone. But Moto Voice lets you change the phrase. Moto Voice will simply launch Google Now when any question you ask is a search.
The problem with Moto Voice is that it is much, much slower than just going to Google Now to begin with. I'm hoping that Motorola will kill off Moto Voice with the Android 5.0 update and simply use Google Now directly.
I installed Allo, having been told that Google Assistant will come with it. I have a OP3T
After downloading it seems nothing more than Google Now?? Is there something else I need to do
I would really appreciate any help you can give
Hi @eric0668
Allo will allow you to use the google assistant only within the application it self. If you would like google assistant instead of google now then there are different ways to do that.
Thanks H3rnand3zz
In spite of the number of posts I am really a newbie.
1. So even when I open Allo, it seems no different than Google Now
2. Could you help me get it working like it does on the Pixel [Non root]. I had the Pixel and really liked Google Assistant
Thanks Again
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Thanks H3rnand3zz
In spite of the number of posts I am really a newbie.
1. So even when I open Allo, it seems no different than Google Now
2. Could you help me get it working like it does on the Pixel [Non root]. I had the Pixel and really liked Google Assistant
Thanks Again
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Sure no problem... So for the first question. You have to send Google assistant a message. So on the bottom right corner of the Convo list click new message icon and chose Google assistant.
2nd question download this app.... It works perfect and will give you Google assistant but you need root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trivisionzero.getassistant
Unfortunately, you cannot get Google Assistant to work in the same way as it does on the Pixel without rooting. Downloading Allo does not activate Google Assistant through your Google app, it simply lets use it server-side. To enable true Google Assistant, either root or wait a few weeks. Google has stated that they are officially releasing Assistant on all phones with Android 6.0+ "soon".
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I installed Allo, having been told that Google Assistant will come with it. I have a OP3T
After downloading it seems nothing more than Google Now?? Is there something else I need to do
I would really appreciate any help you can give
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You can use Freedom OS. There's google assistant which I'm using. You just need to select it in the Aroma Installer.
Hi everybody
Until a couple of days ago, I was able to use voice commands in Android Auto without the need for Google Assistant. Now it seems that Google has made some changes that force me to use assistant if I want to use voice commands.
Is there a way I can work around this? There's no way I am giving Google permission to use my web and app activity or my location history. It's not necessary for voice to work since it worked perfectly without these permissions in the past.
Any ideas? Is reverting back to an older version of AA an option?
I have this same issue. At one point I got around it by changing my country of origin to a country where they haven't yet implemented android assistant (giving the voice an Australian like accent), but i eventually gave up and went back to USA without assistant. I am also curious if there is any way around it
Same here, Android Auto was working fine before Google Assistant was introduced, with plain voice search, and it was super useful to just say OK Google, Play something on Spotify, or OK Google, Go to address this and that. Now the only thing we get back from Google is "When it's safe, you'll first need to tap on the notification". No way I'm turning on Web, Location, Device and Voice History.
Has anybody found a solution to this? Google Assistant requires full access to just about everything Google in order to operate.
I don't want to give Google my entire search access just to use Android Auto.
There was a work-around where you could set your language to US Virgin Islands or something (Where google assistant wasn't live yet), but in the end I decided to not use the microphone in Android Auto anymore