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Overall speed

Would you say that the LG V10 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the LG V10 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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The ONLY lag I've seen up to this point is when I first set up the device and was restoring 130 apps, and tried to do something else too

I got the Moto X Pure edition on the release date. I had more lag on that phone than the V10. I haven't experience any lag. The V10 has been flawless for me so far. :good:

Pretty much on par with the LG G4. Smooth no unexpected lag.
I too experienced a slight studder at first boot while it was downloading, installing and restoring apps, syncing data while I tried to go into other settings at the same time. But it's expected and not at all an issue once first boot has settles.

Raztrax said:
I got the Moto X Pure edition on the release date. I had more lag on that phone than the V10. I haven't experience any lag. The V10 has been flawless for me so far. :good:
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No lag with my MXPE and I am a picky SOB No reviews call out lag that I recall, nor most users. You must have gotten a bad device

Good, fast (enough for me), no glitches whether on WiFi or Cellular.

So lg v10 fast and smooth like note 5 or not???
Wanna trade my note 5 with it

Actually I experience very severe lag on V10. twice withing 2 months of ownership of this device. the V10 does not response at all. even I try to long press the power button (trying to reboot it). after a minute or so, it become responsive.
I believe the reason for the lags partially because I enabled the full disk encryption on this device.
I still love this phone and thinking whenever I have chance. a factory reset might help to clean some stock bloatware and make if faster.

Good enough..

I experience lag with Youtube videos (it just completely stops playback for no reason at all), and while using Spotify. Benchmark results are terrible for a device that has high end specs. Obviously software-related issues which will never get fixed.

So I can't seem to find what kind of storage the V10 uses. I heard the Iphone 6s used a nvme based rom which apparently made the device a lot snappier.
I'm curious what type of rom the V10 uses, as it has so many innovative features, it would be strange if LG skipped over the rom.

I have the phone for several days now and i am yet to find something that it cannot handle. I tested 4K video playback from youtube using mozilla firefox (not the youtube app which is lighter) and it worked flawlessly. I even tried 15Mbps HD Stream over VPN connection which was also handled without any issue. The only thing that may be a problem is a very heavy game but i am not a gamer so i have not tested deeply with games. For me this is the best phone that i had for all these years.

neptun2 said:
I have the phone for several days now and i am yet to find something that it cannot handle. I tested 4K video playback from youtube using mozilla firefox (not the youtube app which is lighter) and it worked flawlessly. I even tried 15Mbps HD Stream over VPN connection which was also handled without any issue. The only thing that may be a problem is a very heavy game but i am not a gamer so i have not tested deeply with games. For me this is the best phone that i had for all these years.
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I agree, the V10 is my first LG phone. I had HTCs, Samsungs and Apple phones before. The V10 is the best of them.

neptun2 said:
I have the phone for several days now and i am yet to find something that it cannot handle. I tested 4K video playback from youtube using mozilla firefox (not the youtube app which is lighter) and it worked flawlessly. I even tried 15Mbps HD Stream over VPN connection which was also handled without any issue. The only thing that may be a problem is a very heavy game but i am not a gamer so i have not tested deeply with games. For me this is the best phone that i had for all these years.
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I am also very impressed with the phone. MIne is a company phone so have to keep it stock for the best part apart from disabling individual apps etc but I am a constant heavy user over approximately 10hrs each day and so far (had it a month) it hasn't missed a beat and battery life is very good compared to the S4 I was previously using.

The fastest phone after Nexus devices

Fast and smooth
Bur my mate 8 is faster and smoothe with kirin 950 beast

Did a side by side comparison of a friend's HTC 10 and the V10. Launch speed of all apps tested were very similar. I tested FB, camera, phone app, chrome, play store, settings, reboot, maps, but no games.
The SD808 is keeping up pretty well, even though it only gets half of the antutu score compared to the SD820. In everyday use, you don't really feel any difference. I think only gaming will be affected.

My v10 is fast and i can have the brightness up to max and charge this phone via usb on my laptops 3.0 port. My g4 keeps sucking battery down when on usb power

S7 vs V10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUt53WC6-xs
Really no need to upgrade if you're not a gamer and even if you are

Don't know if I should call it lag or what. But the knock thing is pretty frustrating. I don't know if the device misses my knocks or I don't knock properly.
And it takes some time when I try to wake it up at lock screen using knocks.
Apart from that. It is truly amazing Android phone. Its my first time using a fast Android phone. Just moved from iOS. Last Android phone that I used was Galaxy S2.
In love with speed of LG V10. Never thought android could be this fast.

Poor performance...

So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.

Well, the 6 and 5x have the same GPU, more or less. The 5x GPU is miniaturized, but otherwise identical.
The 5x has a 1920x1080 display, or roughly 2 million pixels.
The 6 has a 2560x1440 display..... 3.7 million pixels.
So, why would you possibly imagine that with the SAME GPU, but nearly TWICE the number of pixels, that the 6 would be able to produce the same graphical performance as the 5x?
*** UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS!!!

smokinjoe2122 said:
So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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Have you tried turning off the encryption? When I came from the N5 I noticed the phone was not as smooth as the N5 until I turned the encryption off. Early on it made a big difference as they did not have NEON encryption optimizations enabled. Was that was enabled the difference was small but it is still noticeable to me between haveing the encryption running and not. It is not night and day but I think you will notice it.

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Well, the 6 and 5x have the same GPU, more or less. The 5x GPU is miniaturized, but otherwise identical.
The 5x has a 1920x1080 display, or roughly 2 million pixels.
The 6 has a 2560x1440 display..... 3.7 million pixels.
So, why would you possibly imagine that with the SAME GPU, but nearly TWICE the number of pixels, that the 6 would be able to produce the same graphical performance as the 5x?
*** UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS!!!
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I don't think expecting a phone that's a little over a year old, (That was a flagship mind you), to run smoothly is unreasonable. While it's pushing more pixels than the 5x, the processor should be quite similar, along with an extra GB of ram.

eman5oh said:
Have you tried turning off the encryption? When I came from the N5 I noticed the phone was not as smooth as the N5 until I turned the encryption off. Early on it made a big difference as they did not have NEON encryption optimizations enabled. Was that was enabled the difference was small but it is still noticeable to me between haveing the encryption running and not. It is not night and day but I think you will notice it.
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I am running a modified stock ROM now that has encryption turned off, and it is a little better, but unfortunately you're right, it's not night and day.

smokinjoe2122 said:
So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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I have none of these issues on my 6

Go in developer options and try to turn off all animation transitions, that improved speed for me

smokinjoe2122 said:
So I'm fairly new to the Nexus 6, but I have had a Nexus 5 in the past (More recently coming from a Zenfone 2)..I've noticed that while applications open fairly quick on Marshmallow (Even the system UI is fairly smooth), I get a lot lag and jank in scrolling, and applications that work well on my girlfriend's 5x have poor performance on my 6.
Can anyone else relate to this? Apps like Pintrest, Instagram, Tumblr, Ebay, Amazon all aren't as smooth as they should be, and sometimes web browsing can be horrendous (Almost like a touch delay when scrolling).
I've tried clean wipes, flashed the stock images, tried non-stock roms, different kernels, everything I can think of, but to me, the phone just isnt as smooth as I thought it would be. I get that it's over a year old, but I still expected a bit more.
Am I alone here? Again, the UI itself is fine, its more application based \ scrolling based.
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I've had my Nexus for 13 months. (Purchased in February 2015). I've rooted and run various ROMs on the device over the last year. Since I have the Next plan with AT&T I've been planning on upgrading soon so a couple weeks ago I went back to unrooted stock. Since then I've been having the same issues you mention. I don't have a 5x to compare to, but it is definitely lagging a lot more than before. Last night I was trying to view something on Amazon, and it just sat there with a white screen. Many times my keyboard stays floating above the homescreen when I press the "home" softkey, or stays floating after I am done typing in Facebook, messenger etc. It just LAGS big time. Also the battery drain has been horrendous. I've been getting so PO'd at it I've been tempted to go get a Note (GASP!) Last night was the last straw I uninstalled swiftkey (been a avid user for years never an issue) and the CM Locker I had installed so I could have a different lock screen photo (since I'm no longer rooted). I'm giving it 24 hours, and if it is still acting up, I am either re-rooting or upgrading (although there's like NOTHING that I like right now for devices).
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grgana said:
Go in developer options and try to turn off all animation transitions, that improved speed for me
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I just did that. Hopefully that helps with my issue too.

Well, mine is mostly related to the jank when scrolling through applications. The UI, keyboard, ect all works fine. However, The worst is browsing web sites with chrome - I can flick to scroll up and there almost seems to be a second delay sometimes. I've never experienced anything like that before. Also when when using apps such as twitter, amazon, ebay, ect, the scrolling is really bad - Worse than my Zenfone 2.
Again, I've fastboot flash'd the complete stock rom multiple times, tried various kernels\modded roms, ect. They all display this behavior, some worse than others.
I love the size, screen quality, and build of this phone, but for a phone that's last year's Google flagship, I find the performance horrible.

Try turn off animations anyway, you don't have to be rooted, unlocked, yust tap build number 7 times, back to settings/ developer options and put to 0 trazitions, animations,animator..and optionally reboot.

smokinjoe2122 said:
Well, mine is mostly related to the jank when scrolling through applications. The UI, keyboard, ect all works fine. However, The worst is browsing web sites with chrome - I can flick to scroll up and there almost seems to be a second delay sometimes. I've never experienced anything like that before. Also when when using apps such as twitter, amazon, ebay, ect, the scrolling is really bad - Worse than my Zenfone 2.
Again, I've fastboot flash'd the complete stock rom multiple times, tried various kernels\modded roms, ect. They all display this behavior, some worse than others.
I love the size, screen quality, and build of this phone, but for a phone that's last year's Google flagship, I find the performance horrible.
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Have to say, I have none of those issues as someone else also stated. If it does the same on stock, it might be hardware related. How does the phone behave in recovery? Is scrolling as normal? What recovery are you using? And when you say you went back to stock, did you do a complete factory reset including deleting all your personal data? If so, you can also try re-locking your bootloader and unlocking it and then flash factory image from Google. That will also erase everything off your device, including personal data.
With thousands of people here on XDA using a Nexus 6, your issue seems to be specific to you and your device. Maybe it is a screen/digitizer issue.

Seemed to me the February build was slow and janky but the the March was back to normal performance for me, op didn't state what build you were on. Might be an option

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Seemed to me the February build was slow and janky but the the March was back to normal performance for me, op didn't state what build you were on. Might be an option
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I'm on the March build. I usually fastboot flash every img myself, then do a factory reset in recovery when trying to get back to stock..This time I just used the Flash-All.bat for the March image and I'll do some testing. I doubt this method is the difference, I'm grasping at straws. I'm semi concerned now if no one else is having these issues...Or maybe my expectations are just too high.
Perhaps I'll try a screen recording app and see if I can capture what I'm running into. It's not all apps, and it's not all the time, but its definitely noticeable.

you're not alone. i recently picked up a ZTE zmax 2 and did a side by side app load speed test. the ZTE zmax 2 loaded up youtube noticeably faster, had thumbnails faster, and played faster when clicking play. the zmax 2 is a midrange ATT phone with Snapdragon 410, 2gb ram, 720p screen. it costs $99 at best buy today..

I've noticed this too between my Nexus 6 (purchased 4/2015) and my wife's Nexus 6 (purchased 10/2015). Hers is noticeably smoother.
I do have occasional screen tearing on mine when I use certain kernel/ROMs, so maybe it's janky hardware.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I know the frustration, for me it is kernel related, but we cant do nothing, we need new device tree by google. I'm really disappointed that g3 has QHD screen with 801 and is smoother than nexus 6 with 805

fedef12evo said:
I know the frustration, for me it is kernel related, but we cant do nothing, we need new device tree by google. I'm really disappointed that g3 has QHD screen with 801 and is smoother than nexus 6 with 805
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My wifey has a G3 and I can't agree. When she is using my phone, she is always amazed how fluid it is.

derdjango said:
My wifey has a G3 and I can't agree. When she is using my phone, she is always amazed how fluid it is.
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Is your wife g3 on 6.0 marshmellow?

Flashing stock over again really didn't do much for performance. I Did however root it, and increase the GPU clock (Actually set it to performance idles at 300mhz then shoots to 600hmz), and that does seem to help. I can sacrifice battery for better performance in this instance.

Have to agree, at around the end of the day (by 40% battery) my phone slows down. I went pure stock. A quick reboot fixes it. But a tad frustrating

I need your opinion about this phone

Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks

In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.

KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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That's why I made this thread, I saw videos on youtube showing touch problem also exist on this phone.
By the way, thanks for your reply :good:

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.

[email protected] said:
I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?

ferdieses said:
Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?
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I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.

[email protected] said:
I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.
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From what I see on forum, most people fixed it by doing a factory reset just like you said. Well, I hope it's true

[email protected] said:
I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.
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Ahh I see, then it's not the software problem anymore. It's just the placement

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
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I personally never had any major issues with this phone, i'm really enjoying a great cheap phone. The closest competitor in Brazil, hardware wise, is roughly double the price, which is the Moto Z3 Play running the SD636. I Had the CPU Maxed out bug but Xiaomi solved it on the 2nd October Update. Since then the device is running great, but heavy gaming isn't good. Regular games like Clash of Clans, Temple Run 2, Clash Royale, etc will run absolutely fine, but heavier titles like PUBG will struggle. It's definitely playable, but not the smoothest experience. For that you should look into the OnePlus 6/6T or anything else running an SD835 or SD845.
Even though it's a 3000mAh battery, It performs admirably, and people are saying it get's even better on Pie, which I didn't receive yet.

did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?

laviniu_c said:
did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?
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Same, whatever custom rom based on oreo and pie including Lineage. Nothing's changed, and it's only get worse on MIUI beta where they said they fix it in that firmware update. Some said on Lineage 16 it's better but not fixed, the problem still there.
And I sold it immediately, xiaomi and poco team seems like they don't even care about that problem.
Well I just hope that this MiA2/6x got the fix for the issue. I hate notches, this is one of the few 660 without notch.
Anyone using Mi6x? Is it good as the A2 besides the Android One and MIUI?

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.

My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.

@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.

mrumais said:
I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.
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That's what I thought, SD660 is good for pubg. Even not all SD835 devices optimized for that game.
ILA said:
My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.
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Ahh I see, you're right. It's not the best value, but it's not bad either.
A_H_E said:
@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.
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I live in Asia so cellular connectivity won't be problem. It's a good phone but not the best. From what I see most Xiaomi devices suffers from issues on the first few months, it's usual thing for Xiaomi and that's kinda sucks.

Nexus S -> galaxy S2-> Nexus 4 -> LG G2->oneplus one, and now Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram.
What can i say...
Nexus S 350 euros (second hand)
Galaxy s2 360 euros (new)
Nexus 4 almost 500 euros (second hand)
Lg g2 190 euros (second hand)
Oneplus one 64GB (second hand) 230 euros
Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram 230 euros (new)
So the OPO was with me from beginning of 2015 up to a week ago. Went from COS, to CM, to Lineage OS, had to change firmware files for modem and such, data would stop working, random reboots when using waze, etc. Loved the opo, and if it wasnt these issues, mainly the lack of battery life and the rabdom reboots, i would have stayed with it one more year.
Back to now, Mi A2, is a Nexus, or a pixel for the "poors", we will have the updates thats sure, and sure it wont take 6 months like skinned android. So thats great. And one of the things im most looking for.
SD660, is great, but the gpu... It's nothing special. Expect medium settings.
Ram? More than enough. Now where it may lose most of it speed is in the emmc department, emmc 5.1 is fast! But nothing like UFS wich is basically equivalent to a good sata ssd.
I dont regret my purchase, its way faster than the opo althought it also had emmc 5.1, the screen looks great, camera had me impressed, battery life ? (65GB of apps and games?). Better than this, there is the F1 but... Plastic? Iphony android? Almost 100 euros more for half the storage (which is ufs on the F1), infrared for faceunlock (could not care less for that),a "better'" camera and SoC.
If gaming is your main point, go F1! Or since you had a bad experience, go 6T?
If gaming is secondary like for me it is... Got a 1070 Ti at home, no need to game on the phone ? for me, my phone is listen to music, mail, messages, take random pics and browse the web.
And you prefer updates, build quality, and saving some money to buy cases, a powerbank, a QC 3.0 charger,... Go Mi A2 ?
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One more thing i need to had... I like modding my phone and such, but i got into a time of my life that ain't nobody got time for that ?
So i apreciate updates and right off the bat clean android.

what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos?

what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos? That improves battery.

Stock One UI.

willhemmens said:
Stock One UI.
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I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings

melchiar said:
I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings
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That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.

willhemmens said:
That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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If you think about physics of things, you'll start to understand that what is advertised often isn't possible. The battery is a 15.4 Wh cell, when you consider that the 9810 SOC on it's own can draw 3 - 4W, the display can draw 2W+, just these two together could flatten the battery in under 3 hours (15.4Wh / 6W = 2.56 hours). Sure the SOC is rarely at full load and the display is rarely going to be at full brightness on a white screen but the Note has a bunch of other hardware also consuming power.
I'm sorry if you paid $900 for a Note 9, I paid less than that a couple of days after launch, it's certainly not worth that kind of money now. Saying that though, IMO the Note 9 is still the best all round package. Other than perhaps the display, it isn't really the best at anything but manages to tick more boxes than anything else for me.
The reason there are no official ROMs is because no one wants to make them and AOSP Pie is proving to be rather challenging.

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.

gruuvin said:
I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.
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Well that also crossed my mind, but I'm very aware on how I use apps and radios.
Not a power user
Power mode Optimized
Screen resolution FHD+
Auto brightness ON
No gaming
Now and then Facebook lite, Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Chrome
Very little Mobile Data (max half hour a day), default OFF
About 12 hours WiFi, default OFF
Bluetooth is standard off (max half hour a day)
NFC OFF
No high accuracy scanning BT or WiFi
AOD only on tap
Location ON

MIUI 11 vs Lineage/GSI performance ?

Still have to wait to get my bootloader unlocked so figured I would ask here.
To anyone who is using a GSI and/or Lineage OS, do you notice any performance improvement, particularly in emulation?
I notice when I try to emulate some GameCube games (Mario Golf) that performance is at full 60fps for about 60-75% of the time, with seemily occasional bogdowns that get worse if any other apps are open.
Would switching to a lighter ROM result in a performance normalisation/improvement ? Have any of you noticed a gaming performance improvement?

I've been on the HavocOS 2.9 GSI for a couple of weeks now and, while I didn't notice any drastic change in game performances, the general UI is snappier and the overall speed in, let's say, opening and closing applications is definitely improved.
I tend not to game a lot on my phone, but for what it's worth I feel that compared to when I was running the stock ROM my experience on both CoD: Mobile and PPSSPP (Dragonball Z: Shin Budokai 2 and Prince of Persia: Revelations) is way more consistent: I don't experience frame drops at all and PPSSPP has no issues in mantaining a stable 60FPS with the rendering options set on 2X.
If you'd like something more specific I can try and running some tests of your choice when I'll have some time on my hands

iuliusdeblobbis said:
I've been on the HavocOS 2.9 GSI for a couple of weeks now and, while I didn't notice any drastic change in game performances, the general UI is snappier and the overall speed in, let's say, opening and closing applications is definitely improved.
I tend not to game a lot on my phone, but for what it's worth I feel that compared to when I was running the stock ROM my experience on both CoD: Mobile and PPSSPP (Dragonball Z: Shin Budokai 2 and Prince of Persia: Revelations) is way more consistent: I don't experience frame drops at all and PPSSPP has no issues in mantaining a stable 60FPS with the rendering options set on 2X.
If you'd like something more specific I can try and running some tests of your choice when I'll have some time on my hands
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That is awesome information thank you!!
Currently I am using Dolphin MMJ release version 10630 . Using Vulcan GPU plugin, emulated CPU speed at 70% . Everything else stock.
Playing Mario Golf Toadstool Tour. It gets some pretty hard dips around 20-30fps and then shoots back to 60. At the tee-off of some holes it hovers around 48-50fps instead of 60.
Curious to know if that can be pushed up to 60FPS with Havoc. I have tried game turbo boost mode in MIUI11 and it makes zero difference with FPS, but adding the game to the memory exception list prevents dolphin from being killed when I minimize it.

Does camera improved on custom roms?

amirinjast said:
Does camera improved on custom roms?
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If you care about camera quality, stay on the stock ROM for now

iuliusdeblobbis said:
If you care about camera quality, stay on the stock ROM for now
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I care about it and sadly it's sucks in compare to my old device (RN7) with Gcam ?
Shots taken with Note7 by gcam was even better than i phone x! Details colors and...

amirinjast said:
I care about it and sadly it's sucks in compare to my old device (RN7) with Gcam ?
Shots taken with Note7 by gcam was even better than i phone x! Details colors and...
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I was thinking of upgrading to this phone from Redmi Note 7.
How has your experience been?