I have my s21 since a year ago, but is it worth to still use original software or the one from dr ketan or beyonrom
also which one are the difference between this 2, or which one is better
lamedaluis said:
I have my s21 since a year ago, but is it worth to still use original software or the one from dr ketan or beyonrom
also which one are the difference between this 2, or which one is better
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unless you ran out of major android upgrades, or need root, at this point on it's life cycle it's pretty much not needed to install a rom, most features are slowly coming. just my opinion though.
Honestly since knox and the efuse development has tanked, not worth the hassle with root or custom roms and possible problems you'll face and lose access to certain features.
if you're looking just to customize the look of your phone, there's some apps out there that allow you to do this without root
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I know this question has been asked like a bajabber 2395293 millions times.
But my point is, is losing official OTA updates from Google worth the rooting?
EG: When Flash 10.xx arrives and the Nexus lands some major updates, what are the chances that rooted users get screwed over?
Considering that OTA updates get incorporated into custom ROMs anyway (and usually before they're officially out), it's not like you will be missing out on anything.
This is best asked in Q&A. It all comes down to personal preference. We can't tell you what you should do.
chowlala said:
I know this question has been asked like a bajabber 2395293 millions times.
But my point is, is losing official OTA updates from Google worth the rooting?
EG: When Flash 10.xx arrives and the Nexus lands some major updates, what are the chances that rooted users get screwed over?
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maybe you should first post in the correct sub-forum?
and we dont lose any good things that come from those updates. Our beloved chefs will cook them right in along with their own nice extras.
All OTA updates will be in our custom ROMS.
All your OTAs are belong to us.
Heh. Oops. My bad. Sorry for posting in the wrong section. 2am and I've been boggling it over and over bout rooting vs official ota updates. And also about security issues. Not sure if rooting makes the N1 more vulnerable or not...
Mod: Please move this to appropriate section, thanks. =)
Best choice I ever made was rooting. It has made my phone 100 times for fun!
i don't see the point of rooting at this point
the only benefit i see is storing apps to SD
cupojoe said:
i don't see the point of rooting at this point
the only benefit i see is storing apps to SD
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I'm sure you've done all your research, considering this is your first post and you joined this month....
Rooting opens you up to Undervolting to save battery, Tethering, Apps unavailable to non-rooted devices, some really great themes, and more... To say that A2SD is the only benefit is rather insulting to our faithful Devs...
Heck... My main reason to root was to leave behind the look of the stock N1. It's a great device and all, but the UI certainly looks better w/ a lil' NexTheme 1.9 action.
Oh yeah... And Rooting lets you show off your phone via SS's. That's always quite enjoyable imo.
cupojoe said:
i don't see the point of rooting at this point
the only benefit i see is storing apps to SD
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What exactly will you see as a "point".. honestly trackball colors, and Desire ROMs are enough to convince me to root. Along with unlocking the extra RAM.. and then other benefits that are included with root access. Such as themes, overclocking, and what not, there already seems to be enough reasons to become a superuser.
Just root it already, unless it's above you tech level; then don't. My nexus is a beast running Cyanogen's latest mod, you may be skeptical about claims that the phone can perform snappier, but it's all true and after experiencing the light I will and can never go back to a stock rom. Not to mention the added functionality, trackball colors and frequent new updates and modifications. You know what to do .
Do it....... Dooooooo ittttttttt!!!!!!!!!!
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What exactly will you see as a "point".. honestly trackball colors, and Desire ROMs are enough to convince me to root. Along with unlocking the extra RAM.. and then other benefits that are included with root access. Such as themes, overclocking, and what not, there already seems to be enough reasons to become a superuser.
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Good call! Forgot all about the Trackball... Can't use Desire due to fail Bluetooth in the car... But I'm happy enough on Stock Launcher w/ CM5041. Extra RAM as well..
People who don't root, seriously don't know what they're missing. And it'll only get better.
And heck... What's the negative? Oh no?!!? Warranty issues. I'll take the extra fun n games for that risk.
Hehe. I already rooted like 10 mins after asking this question. But everyone who rooted is right.
There's so much more monsterifficness beneath the stock. Almost as if Google already knew how extreme it would be and deliberately tempted us to root by setting it below maximum potential.
Can't wait to see what the Nexus can continue to do with awesome the awesome modders here!! =)
I'm waiting for the next OTA update before I start playing around with root and ROMS. Customization looks fun but I want to see what performance increases Google can bring after updating to the new kernel for full RAM (hopefully they do this next update anyway). Probably won't be any different than what's out now, but the only thing that I'd really want is HTC music and Modaco's mod is still in the alpha stages.
Rooting is definately a good move, but it is not for everyone, i would suggest against people egging others on to root. Rather, direct them to the available information on the benefits and dangers of rooting, and let them decide.
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I'm waiting for the next OTA update before I start playing around with root and ROMS. Customization looks fun but I want to see what performance increases Google can bring after updating to the new kernel for full RAM (hopefully they do this next update anyway). Probably won't be any different than what's out now, but the only thing that I'd really want is HTC music and Modaco's mod is still in the alpha stages.
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Uh... most custom ROMs now run on .32 or .33 kernels. As in, more RAM. Loooots of RAM. (I have about 191 MB free on a fresh boot, etc.) Paul's Desire ROM is only still in alpha because bluetooth doesn't quite work, but otherwise it's very functional and pretty well-optimized.
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Uh... most custom ROMs now run on .32 or .33 kernels. As in, more RAM. Loooots of RAM. (I have about 191 MB free on a fresh boot, etc.) Paul's Desire ROM is only still in alpha because bluetooth doesn't quite work, but otherwise it's very functional and pretty well-optimized.
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I know that current custom ROMs already have a big performance boost (RAM) from the current stock. I believe that ROMs also have .apks that are optimized and probably a bit zippier than unmodified ones. I only meant that if the next OTA with the new kernel gives enough of a performance boost, then custom ROMs won't be for me (until much later in the game anyway).
Whats stopping me are the touchscreen issues,,, no one can still definitively say if it's HW or SW. I need to retain the option to send it in for a warranty swap if it gets worse.
so i never wanted to root until i tasted what the stock froyo can do.
and it's been over a month or so and i am wondering if i should root or not.
mainly came to xda-developers for firmware updates and just some general information about phones never really read into about rooting and whatnots.
i really want a smooth experience with android and while 2.2 is indeed faster than 2.1, i'm still not quite satisfied.
so i'm wondering if rooting will boost speed performances. like smoother scroll, opening apps faster and hopefully a better music player. the custom themes are nice but performance and functionality is my thing and priority.
or should i be waiting for 3.0?
In all honesty root your nexus. I had mine since February and only rooted my nexus two weeks ago.
I had the same doubts of what would rooting give me over eclair and then froyo but after rooting and putting on a custom rom i am kicking myself for not doing it sooner.
My phone is rooted with a locked bootloader so i don't have to worry about that unlock padlock when powering up my phone. I get too use rooted apps and best of all the different roms. I was going to wait for google with each update new features being added, but it takes too long. With the custom roms they have features that should have been in the stock release like waking up the phone with the trackball and other trackball colors beside white, different customizations to your liking and speed increases.
Today it is even easier to root your nexus one then when it first came out. Since putting a new rom on my phone it feels like i have a new phone all over again without the cost and contract obligations.
Give it a try and see if you like it if not you can always unroot and go back to the stock rom. But keep in mind before you root and start tinkering with your phone read up as much as you can beforehand so you are sure you know what you are doing.
Best of luck.
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Around one month ago now, I decided to take the plunge and purchased an International Galaxy Note from 3 on a £27 GBP per month 24-month contract (including 500 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited data). I love the phone so far and it is my first proper Android phone, minus an old second-hand HTC Desire which had a severe storage problem. The big screen is a definite plus and I'm looking for ways to enhance my Galaxy Note experience.
First off, what exactly is rooting in basic English and how difficult is the procedure? Will it void any warranties and, if so, what are the exact benefits of rooting my device? I am running the stock UK ICS ROM, by the way. Also, will rooting cause my to lose my data such as contacts or apps? If I mess up rooting, will it ruin my device/brick it forever?
Flashing a new ROM on, at a guess, will lose all my data but what are the exact benefits of that also? What does the process involve? Any recommendations for custom ROMs would be appreciated too. I'd like one which features the S-Pen apps though (S Note, S Planner and S Memo).
Woohooo....so many questions bunched together...give them to me in point form and I'll tell you the answers immediately...
Anyways here are my answers--
Read this for any should-I-root/advantage/disadvantages type of questions.Awesome post.End of discussion on that front.
For how to root, check out dr.ketan's guide(it's in the dev section).The procedure is pain free unless you melt down with anxiety .No, if you mess up rooting it just means you flash another stock ROM and try again--although you'd have to work pretty hard to fail that provided no power outages,battery deads happen.No,rooting doesn't mean you lose contacts or app data.
Yes, flashing a new ROM will mean losing your app data.But that can be backed up using TB and then restored later at your convenience. ONLY Samsung based ROMs have support for S-pen apps.
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All right, Pointdexter, sit down and listen!---Sheldon Cooper
There is a bug in samsung ICS kernels which may cause your note to get bricked when you wipe data on it(doesn't matter if you do it via phone settings or recovery).Your best bet may be ROMs which don't use Samsung kernels.If you have to use the samsung based kernels then flash the speedmod kernel immediately after you flash the rom without wiping.Repeat-without wiping.Under no circumstances will you wipe your phone while having the stock ICS kernel.This method isn't fail-proof however and search and ask more before trying to go down this road.
In my opinion 1 follows the other. That is to say you probly don't need to root unless you want to flash a custom rom. The only exception would be if you wanted to add or delete features that you cannot do unless rooted.
In my case I flashed a custom rom to get a few distinct features, those being the S voice program and the stock android keyboard. Both of those I found work well with the Criskelo custom rom.
If it weren't for those features however I probably would not have flashed and not even bothered to root. So it really depends on what you are looking to do
Brad387 said:
Around one month ago now, I decided to take the plunge and purchased an International Galaxy Note from 3 on a £27 GBP per month 24-month contract (including 500 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited data). I love the phone so far and it is my first proper Android phone, minus an old second-hand HTC Desire which had a severe storage problem. The big screen is a definite plus and I'm looking for ways to enhance my Galaxy Note experience.
First off, what exactly is rooting in basic English and how difficult is the procedure? Will it void any warranties and, if so, what are the exact benefits of rooting my device? I am running the stock UK ICS ROM, by the way. Also, will rooting cause my to lose my data such as contacts or apps? If I mess up rooting, will it ruin my device/brick it forever?
Flashing a new ROM on, at a guess, will lose all my data but what are the exact benefits of that also? What does the process involve? Any recommendations for custom ROMs would be appreciated too. I'd like one which features the S-Pen apps though (S Note, S Planner and S Memo).
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You should read info on ICS, GB, Bricks, Flashing etc...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659768
If you want to customize your phone then you need to root the phone that allows you to install and delete any file in your system folder.
Brad387 said:
Around one month ago now, I decided to take the plunge and purchased an International Galaxy Note from 3 on a £27 GBP per month 24-month contract (including 500 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited data). I love the phone so far and it is my first proper Android phone, minus an old second-hand HTC Desire which had a severe storage problem. The big screen is a definite plus and I'm looking for ways to enhance my Galaxy Note experience.
First off, what exactly is rooting in basic English and how difficult is the procedure? Will it void any warranties and, if so, what are the exact benefits of rooting my device? I am running the stock UK ICS ROM, by the way. Also, will rooting cause my to lose my data such as contacts or apps? If I mess up rooting, will it ruin my device/brick it forever?
Flashing a new ROM on, at a guess, will lose all my data but what are the exact benefits of that also? What does the process involve? Any recommendations for custom ROMs would be appreciated too. I'd like one which features the S-Pen apps though (S Note, S Planner and S Memo).
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AS far as security is concern... Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826915
Wow, my head is about to explode after the last hour reading different threads on here. I have some experience rooting and using Odin if needed but not sure where to begin. All I want is a less bloated rom of lollipop and runs real smooth. The stock has way too much junk I don't want. Unfortunately I got excited for a min when I saw the dark note 5 rom port but I guess that's not for at&t version because of the locked bootloader. So I looked at a few roms on here and some seem decent enough but not sure which ones I want. Like I said, I want closest thing to stock Android as possible but with the Samsung s pen features also. Also it seems to me I have to downgrade to NC2 and then do the recovery and install the roms from there?
Alot of work coming from a guy who is used to nexus and oneplus one type phones. ..
newtonfb said:
Wow, my head is about to explode after the last hour reading different threads on here. I have some experience rooting and using Odin if needed but not sure where to begin. All I want is a less bloated rom of lollipop and runs real smooth. The stock has way too much junk I don't want. Unfortunately I got excited for a min when I saw the dark note 5 rom port but I guess that's not for at&t version because of the locked bootloader. So I looked at a few roms on here and some seem decent enough but not sure which ones I want. Like I said, I want closest thing to stock Android as possible but with the Samsung s pen features also. Also it seems to me I have to downgrade to NC2 and then do the recovery and install the roms from there?
Alot of work coming from a guy who is used to nexus and oneplus one type phones. ..
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Yeah, it is a bit more complicated getting things done with this device than some others, unfortunately it seems that is the way a lot of device mfg's are headed.
Once you get the method down it isn't all that difficult to get a ROM installed.
There are 2 ROMS that work really well for me
I'm currently running, and have been for a few weeks now is a S6 Edge port from Carl1961 located HERE
The other is a Darkloard Note 4 port from sanguinevn located HERE
Not that the other few we have aren't good, it's just that these 2 give me best battery/functionality combo
Carl had just reminded me that we are currently faced with a problem that 5.1 and up is a problem for us since we have no bootloader, so we're a bit stuck on how far our fine dev's can take us.
kangi26 said:
Yeah, it is a bit more complicated getting things done with this device than some others, unfortunately it seems that is the way a lot of device mfg's are headed.
Once you get the method down it isn't all that difficult to get a ROM installed.
There are 2 ROMS that work really well for me
I'm currently running, and have been for a few weeks now is a S6 Edge port from Carl1961 located HERE
The other is a Darkloard Note 4 port from sanguinevn located HERE
Not that the other few we have aren't good, it's just that these 2 give me best battery/functionality combo
Carl had just reminded me that we are currently faced with a problem that 5.1 and up is a problem for us since we have no bootloader, so we're a bit stuck on how far our fine dev's can take us.
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Thanks for the reply. How do I root the 5.0 update? Is there a walk thru guide anywhere? I can't find one.
Also is there a big performance difference between this and stock? I disabled some of the stock apps but in still curious about the s6 rom you talked about
Hi,
i am very curious. I've just ordered this watch for an alltime low price on a local store in germany and will have the unit tomorrow or friday.
I am quite experienced with custom roms, rooting and modding several smartphones but having a look in this forum especially the rom development section, there's really nothing much to see there except one or two kernels.
So what's the benefit, are there any apps which requires me to have the watch rooted or is there any thing i am missing out there?
What do you think?
Cheers.
endrancer said:
Hi,
i am very curious. I've just ordered this watch for an alltime low price on a local store in germany and will have the unit tomorrow or friday.
I am quite experienced with custom roms, rooting and modding several smartphones but having a look in this forum especially the rom development section, there's really nothing much to see there except one or two kernels.
So what's the benefit, are there any apps which requires me to have the watch rooted or is there any thing i am missing out there?
What do you think?
Cheers.
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When I first got mine a couple of months ago, I rooted and installed the custom kernel pretty much automatically because I always root and mod my phones and I assumed that I would want total control over the system on the watch, too. It went fine, and it was fun to learn about Wear. The kernel definitely improved battery life substantially. With respect to UX modifications, there isn't much that requires root beyond uninstalling bloatwear, which, for me, was just two or three apps.
A couple of weeks ago, I was getting freeze-ups and factory reset with the intention of re-rooting. I got interrupted and figured I would do it when I had time. Well, I have been on stock since, and am pretty happy. I just change watch faces frequently which of course doesn't require root. The crashes have ceased. The battery is not as good as it was on the custom kernel, but it's more than adequate for my use case.
I'll probably get back into hacking it when I have some free time.
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PhilipTD said:
When I first got mine a couple of months ago, I rooted and installed the custom kernel pretty much automatically because I always root and mod my phones and I assumed that I would want total control over the system on the watch, too. It went fine, and it was fun to learn about Wear. The kernel definitely improved battery life substantially. With respect to UX modifications, there isn't much that requires root beyond uninstalling bloatwear, which, for me, was just two or three apps.
A couple of weeks ago, I was getting freeze-ups and factory reset with the intention of re-rooting. I got interrupted and figured I would do it when I had time. Well, I have been on stock since, and am pretty happy. I just change watch faces frequently which of course doesn't require root. The crashes have ceased. The battery is not as good as it was on the custom kernel, but it's more than adequate for my use case.
I'll probably get back into hacking it when I have some free time.
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thanks.
i have already received the watched and did the setup procedure a few times by now. i unlocked, flashed twrp and rooted ( didn't confirm root so far ) after i upgraded to 6.0.1 ... i'll see how it runs for now before flashing any other kernel or whatever to check out the current performance.