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As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
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Thanks for chiming in.
Yay...another Pie impressions thread.
I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
Mwyann said:
I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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just flashed official yesterday but have been on Pie beta 2 for some time. I dont find it to be all that bad. I have heard of BT issues but have not had a chance to really test it out yet. That will be tomorrow. As of now i see no reason to move backwards.
I've been on Pie since Official, and haven't looked back!
Mwyann said:
Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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Downgraded about a month ago never looked back or front however you want to put it!
Night mode it’s just a theme lol AOD had a bug or two your contact info or something like that wasn’t being shown! Alos just turn on blue light for night mode its easy on the eyes!
Tons of people have downgraded! ONE UI PIE 9 has been so rushed, it's like Samsung just make sure main things work and leave the actual stuff that us end user need to last or don’t even work..
i don’t think I’ll ever upgrade to ONE UI PIE 9 on the NOTE 9! I’m going to keep it on Oreo 8.1 and just get a NOTE 10 X for whatever o.s out then!
Note 9 runs awesomely on Oreo 8.1 what’s the point of upgrading ?
Constant bluetooth issues with my car caused me to downgrade, I agree ONE UI seems very rushed.,
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
Well, currently downgrading... Did all needed backups, now flashing ARL3 back, and getting ready to reinstall and reconfigure everything... for the better I hope *sigh*
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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Well I prefer getting back features that I use often instead of OTA patches and fixes. I ran my previous phones on custom ROMs which didn't provide latest patches and I was very fine with it, because I had what I though was good for me And for now, in the state Pie is right now, I feel like Oreo is better for me. After a month on Pie, I don't enjoy using my phone as I did on Oreo, so I decided to revert
CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Personally I didn't encountered any issues, my beef is with the aesthetics, seems to me that they rushed it out, the GUI is horrendous, even adjusting the DPI in the screen settings leaves us with a big and unpolished interface, icons, notification bar and everything seems so over sized and tasteless.
Downgraded the next day, for now i'll stick to Oreo.
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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If you rely on using bluetooth hands free talking in the car, that is reason enough to downgrade. Bluetooth phone calls simply do not work for most people in the official Pie update (worked fine in 8.1). This is a very important safety feature, not to mention in some states you cannot hold and talk on the phone while driving. Wonder if someone who gets a ticket will try to have Samsung reimburse them...
carlitos66 said:
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
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Yes those "ghey" icons. They are rubbish.
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Only reason I'm thinking about it is I miss having VoLTE. I have sprint and with oreo there was a work around to get it. Now the only half assed way to get it is to be on wifi calling then it'll work but only for that call
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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I would like Bluetooth to work in my car and iconx buds. Constantly disconnects. I will definitely go back when the problem is fixed.
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What are the OTA packages we need to disable in package disabler pro to stop the OTA's from installing?
Only because there is no Xposed or Substratum system themes yet (I like dark themes, not black themes).
Hello. I just bought a Huawei Mate 20 lite, and I immediately noticed that when the notification menu is pulled down, the background (the part of the screen that's visible under the menu, not the menu itself) is flickering. I tried lowering the resolution to HD+, down from FHD+ and the problem seems to disappear. Any ideas as to what that would be? If it is a hardware bug, I can return the phone and ask for another one, or maybe if there is a fix anyone knows of, and this little "bug" here doesn't turn into a bigger problem overtime, I can just apply that.
Thank you very much and have a nice evening.
The same happens to me and not only that. If i left the phone in the same screen for a few minutes and pull down the notification bar or any other dark (not black) screen the screen looks like is burned.
Hio, i have exactly the same, i don't know why they would do something like that but, i don't think its some hardware damage or unwanted either since on other backgrounds if you want so, or other screens it doesn't happen for me, as far as i can see only happens on home screen etc... Also a friend from me has exactly the same with different firmware... Don't know about the burned looking part from 2nd post, definitely don't have that!
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Looks like a dynamic contrast issue to me. Go to settings, display, color mode and pick normal. That might fix it.
randhackr said:
Looks like a dynamic contrast issue to me. Go to settings, display, color mode and pick normal. That might fix it.
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Hello friend, I tried what you recommended, but to no avail. My biggest concern is whether this might be a hardware issue, or it's most certainly a software one - if it's a software issue i wouldn't be bothered at all and i'd just wait for an update or even put a pure android on it, but if it is indeed a hardware issue, i need to know so I can return the phone.
Refractory said:
Hello friend, I tried what you recommended, but to no avail. My biggest concern is whether this might be a hardware issue, or it's most certainly a software one - if it's a software issue i wouldn't be bothered at all and i'd just wait for an update or even put a pure android on it, but if it is indeed a hardware issue, i need to know so I can return the phone.
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Try it out?
Install a different firmware, roll back to the oldest firmware or something like that. Change your backgrounds, try it out with different apps, play around with screen testing apps. Even if someone here has a similar problem and it's hardware related, yours might still be something different. It's hard to tell over a forum.
Good luck with "pure Android" though, this phone will cost you quite some bucks to just get unlocked and there's merely any support for AOSP ROMs (maybe not even the littlest bit, I didn't look at OpenKirin yet since the phone is so expensive to unlock lol)
Frau Son said:
Try it out?
Install a different firmware, roll back to the oldest firmware or something like that. Change your backgrounds, try it out with different apps, play around with screen testing apps. Even if someone here has a similar problem and it's hardware related, yours might still be something different. It's hard to tell over a forum.
Good luck with "pure Android" though, this phone will cost you quite some bucks to just get unlocked and there's merely any support for AOSP ROMs (maybe not even the littlest bit, I didn't look at OpenKirin yet since the phone is so expensive to unlock lol)
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Does installing new firmware (I'm currently using EMUI 8.something) v oid warranty? I still haven't gotten the official update to 9 and I'm thinking of just installing it manually myself.
Hello people,
the last OnePlus OS update disaster was the cherry on the s***cake I call OxygenOS. After years of microphone, display and sensor issues I want to go back to the only brand where I had almost 0 issues: Pixel.
Since I am still very wary I have a few questions for people who had the possibility to use the phone for a while.
1. Are there working TWRP and root methods out there? How about the backup and restore of nandroid in TWRP? Does it work flawlessly?
2. How fast ist the camera? I remember on my Pixel 2 that you could take the phone out, take a shot and put it away. The image will be sharp and clear in 95% of the cases. In other phones I had to stay still for about 1-2 seconds out of fear the image will be blurry or smeared.
3. Does Google still provide OTA .zips and tools to flash, unlock and recover custom roms and images?
4. Is the adaptive brightness on point? OP7 always needs an ever so slightly readjustmet which makes it kind of pointless.
5. Does the microphone in whatsapp voice messages work flawless?
6. Would it be possible to migrate my data partition from OP7P to Pixel 5 without issues? I have 2 authenticator apps that I have a backup for but can't restore on my OP7P without bootloop... (see intro text).
Thank you!
1. I think TWRP was just released but I don't think it's very functional. you can go to that thread to get more information since I don't use it myself.
2. This could be just me but the camera viewfinder will definitely freeze for a few seconds before I can start taking a picture. And because of the mid-range processor, it does take a few seconds for the image to process. However I think this is done after the picture is taken so you should be okay taking a picture and then turning the screen off - since it seems to process the image in the background afterwards.
3. If you do a Google search for Google factory images you'll see there are zips you can download, both full fastboot zips and OTA zips. I normally Flash the OTA zip through stock recovery via adb sideload.
4. The adaptive brightness definitely does favour going dim more than it needs to. I'm guessing this could be fixed in a potential future software update though.
5. I don't use WhatsApp so not too sure about this one
6. Not too sure what you mean exactly by migrating but I personally use the app called Swift Backup to backup and restore my apps. And then I just manually drag and drop my internal storage to my computer as a backup.
anphex said:
Hello people,
the last OnePlus OS update disaster was the cherry on the s***cake I call OxygenOS. After years of microphone, display and sensor issues I want to go back to the only brand where I had almost 0 issues: Pixel.
Since I am still very wary I have a few questions for people who had the possibility to use the phone for a while.
1. Are there working TWRP and root methods out there? How about the backup and restore of nandroid in TWRP? Does it work flawlessly?
2. How fast ist the camera? I remember on my Pixel 2 that you could take the phone out, take a shot and put it away. The image will be sharp and clear in 95% of the cases. In other phones I had to stay still for about 1-2 seconds out of fear the image will be blurry or smeared.
3. Does Google still provide OTA .zips and tools to flash, unlock and recover custom roms and images?
4. Is the adaptive brightness on point? OP7 always needs an ever so slightly readjustmet which makes it kind of pointless.
5. Does the microphone in whatsapp voice messages work flawless?
6. Would it be possible to migrate my data partition from OP7P to Pixel 5 without issues? I have 2 authenticator apps that I have a backup for but can't restore on my OP7P without bootloop... (see intro text).
Thank you!
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Currently root works fine. There is no function TWRP yet, at least last I looked, but things are fine without it. But more volatile but once things are set up right you're golden. I moved from a OP7P to a P5, as well, so I'll give you the run down.
Biggest, biggest gripe: vibration motor. It's pretty ****ty. Not like, oh god, get this out of my hand ****ty, but the OP7P's vibrator was much, much better. Phone speaker quality is much worse, as well, but for how small the p5 is, and the fact that it has no earpiece speaker, it makes quite a decent effort. Snappines; the op7p was so fast that double pressing the power button from screen off to pull up the camera will actually unlock and relock your screen before it even registers you double clicked the power button, and apps would launch instantly. The P5 isn't quite *that* fast, but it IS nimble. Lower your expectations for snappines, though I do feel that, with the proper modifications to animations, to the kernel, to the os, it could be comparable. That's definitely something OP mastered, that snappines and responsiveness. I think what would really make a big difference in that snappines is just animation tuning. For example, I wish screen on and screen off animations just didn't exist, and instead it was instant. As it is now, currently, it's a quick fade. Small gripes though. Gravity box can solve a lot of complaints, too lol
But, the question remains, what do you gain?
You gain updates. You're now at the forefront of features. You don't know what you're missing until you have a Pixel. Battery Life? It's.. well, let's just say that the op7p sucks compared to the p5. I can easily get 9+ hours screen on time even with heavy, heavy usage, bluetooth on, location, nfc, tons of apps in the background. This phone WILL get you through the day, 100% guaranteed. You get wireless charging, too, which is awesome. Charging is nimble but not dash-charge fast. You get a phone that you can use in one hand.
Overall, will it be for everyone? No. But, I can say with confidence, I'm not looking back. I have my complaints, one of the biggest being that Google Assistant just isn't reliable for me on my p5 compared to how it was on my oneplus, and also that the ding it makes when I use the hotword is just kinda gone for some reason and I have no idea how to fix it.
But yeah, ramble over, there ya go.
Thank you for sharing your point of view!
The thing is, I got the OP7P as a gift when it released and I never got warm with its huge size. I never wanted a huge phone like this but coped with it because it was/is top of the line. But over the time those already stated minor issues started to arise and accumulate.
So basically I don't want to gain anything, I want to get rid of the surplus.
As long as doesn't have issues that bothes me every day or at least less than the OP7P, everything is fine.
anphex said:
Thank you for sharing your point of view!
The thing is, I got the OP7P as a gift when it released and I never got warm with its huge size. I never wanted a huge phone like this but coped with it because it was/is top of the line. But over the time those already stated minor issues started to arise and accumulate.
So basically I don't want to gain anything, I want to get rid of the surplus.
As long as doesn't have issues that bothes me every day or at least less than the OP7P, everything is fine.
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You'll find it doesn't feel as premium in the hand, as well. The majority of the body is plastic, though it's a very high quality, biodegradable plastic called bio resin. It also can heat up during normal usage, but not to an uncomfortable level. Outside of usual android gripes here and there, there's really not much to complain about. It gets the job done, as a phone, really well. Camera is fantastic, and I tried to see just how quickly you can take a pic from it earlier and you likely won't be disappointed. You can snap a picture before the viewfinder even loads, so it's unlikely you'll run into any issue. It automatically enables night mode depending on the light, but you can disable that auto night mode from a button near the view finder, so that pics are taken instantly. Everything about the phone is like that - very intentional and miticulous design, while still remaining stock android. Not quite custom rom levels of customization, though. No custom OS colors, things like that. OP wins in customization, for sure, but again, you probably won't be disappointed.
My fingerprint sensor on my Mi 11 doesn't on any generic system images that I use. On each one it asks for a fingerprint on the back sensor even though the Mi 11 has one integrated into the screen. It doesn't sense any touch that I do. Does anyone know a fix for this?
There is no fix for it, and it has been stated a lot of times in every gsi rom.
It is normal for gsi roms to have that bug. It can only be fixed when somebody makes a device specific gsi rom.. And that only will be happening when we got a normal working twrp and we get hooked on the gsi programms by somebody.
You wouldve know this if you just used the search function..
Thanks, I assumed that was reason. I also realized that I have no sound. Is there an easy fix for that?
All the bugs you are facing are not really fixable untill we get an active developper.
The NFC of my Redmi Note 10 PRO no longer works after having flashed the PIXEL EXPERIENCE rom (I have done the procedure again, but the NFC still does not work) the same thing happens to me when I have Arrow OS installed, it appears where the NFC icon was grayed out and could not be enabled.
Any solution?
I've been trying for three days to get NFC to work, but it still doesn't work.
It is not ideal to go back to the garbage that is the customization layer of MIUI
I have the same problem
If a custom rom give problems with sensors, camera's etc. mostly the hardware is changed by Xiaomi and that custom rom missed the drivers for it.
Best chance is to use one of the recent new rom developements, but no guarantees.
Do you see NFC repair/reset options? It's most likely due to drivers though in some cases kernels can affect as well.