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I'm bailing on Anroid - form the lynch mob here

*lol spelling mistake in title*
I'm bailing on Android after 2 years and two devices. I'll just go ahead and get the canned responses out of the way:
"K GTFO"
"ur an idiot anroid is open source so customizable"
"nice first post, moron"
The carrier/OS fragmentation is tearing Android apart. While most of you look at the open source platform and see good things, I see a disaster. Phones are full of bloat, locked out of core functionality (Atrix, anyone?) and relying on manufacturers for updates is slowing the progress of Android.
As a Vibrant owner, I am accustomed to some flaws - chiefly a working, but slow GPS. But when my phone constantly fails to send text messages or fills my call log with calls I did not make, I start to wonder. That's just this device - how about the Nexus One's that were sending texts to random contacts? I just think Google might have bitten off more than they were ready for. I often feel like they tried to jam so much into the OS that they forgot to keep user interface in check.
Don't get me wrong, I see a TREMENDOUS potential for Android in the future. The sheer number of activations is staggering. The platform will easily be the dominate OS, no doubt. In two years, I'll revisit Android.
For the time being I'm going back to *gasp* a Blackberry *gasp*

I for one fully respect you point of view, And good luck in your further endeavors.

Im sorry Android isn't working out for you.. I personally love my Evo, and wouldnt trade it for any other phone (right now at least).
some people enjoy the open source functions, and utilize the capabilities to its fullest, while others just call it bloat-ware (which it is full of...in stock form), and being locked out of core functionality ( what more can a blackberry do, even in stock form????)
i'm not hating on your post, or your opinion, Blackberrys are fun devices (before coming into the world of Android I owned about 5 crackberries) and im sure if you dont use your android device to its fullest, then a blackberry will be perfect for you
Masterfuel

I feel the same way. Eventually I will get phone with any OS but Android.

masterfuel said:
Im sorry Android isn't working out for you.. I personally love my Evo, and wouldnt trade it for any other phone (right now at least).
some people enjoy the open source functions, and utilize the capabilities to its fullest, while others just call it bloat-ware (which it is full of...in stock form), and being locked out of core functionality ( what more can a blackberry do, even in stock form????)
i'm not hating on your post, or your opinion, Blackberrys are fun devices (before coming into the world of Android I owned about 5 crackberries) and im sure if you dont use your android device to its fullest, then a blackberry will be perfect for you
Masterfuel
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I'm as nerdy as anyone here and can certainly hold my own when it comes to fully utilizing my phone.
But phone is the key word there. I need a phone I can throw in my pocket, answer a message quickly and be back to life. A quick glance at a Blackberry tells me all I need to know. A quick glance at my Vibrant tells me the screen is off. Poor choice in phone model? Maybe.
The only things I will miss about Android are my phones amazing 4" Display, Google Navigation and WiFi tethering. That, to me, says a lot.

Interesting thoughts
I myself like phones that I can customize into something that I need. What I mean by this is with Android I can make my home screen tell me all I need. I went out and tried different phones and found that android based phones seemed to have the most customization options out there. I like the others but for me and this is only me android seems to fit me for what I need to have on my home screen. I like to see many things too. Like calendar, email, weather, SMS and a couple of other quick links to seldom used items. Other phones like Blackberry or Iphone work nice but I am often stuck by what they feel is right. I myself just like to have things my way I guess.

It's so depressing when you scroll down a page, and see no colours from anybody because they're all new and don't have profile pictures yet

themeltingclock said:
"K GTFO"
"ur an idiot anroid is open source so customizable"
"nice first post, moron"
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-5 points for knowing the rite answer and still opening a thread

MacaronyMax said:
It's so depressing when you scroll down a page, and see no colours from anybody because they're all new and don't have profile pictures yet
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lol, i was just too lazy to change it when I registered.. and honestly, I haven't thought about it until you brought it up.. I will go do that now! Adios.

themeltingclock said:
I'm as nerdy as anyone here and can certainly hold my own when it comes to fully utilizing my phone.
But phone is the key word there. I need a phone I can throw in my pocket, answer a message quickly and be back to life. A quick glance at a Blackberry tells me all I need to know. A quick glance at my Vibrant tells me the screen is off. Poor choice in phone model? Maybe.
The only things I will miss about Android are my phones amazing 4" Display, Google Navigation and WiFi tethering. That, to me, says a lot.
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understandable.. a 4" display is a rather large phone, and sometimes isnt easy to fit into your pocket.. As for myself, a quick glance at my Evo tells me all I need to know also.
obviously android aren't for everyone (otherwise EVERYONE would have one..) hopefully you will see just how buggy that blackberry OS can get ( try deleting 4000 texts at once) and come running back, otherwise have fun in APP WORLD!!!

masterfuel said:
lol, i was just too lazy to change it when I registered.. and honestly, I haven't thought about it until you brought it up.. I will go do that now! Adios.
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Haha Yay! We now have colour to this thread
On another note... My PC is telling me I'm spelling Colour wrong

MacaronyMax said:
Haha Yay! We now have colour to this thread
On another note... My PC is telling me I'm spelling Colour wrong
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That's because you did
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

twitch153 said:
That's because you did
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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Color/colour. Same diff. Just depends on where you live
Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"

Ever tried using a HTC?

sakai4eva said:
Ever tried using a HTC?
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Yep. Had a MyTouch when they came out. The core functionality of the phone was pretty good, albeit a bit slow. I commend HTC/T-Mobile for updating such an old phone to Froyo.
What it boils down to for me is that despite Android being a much larger, more supported platform, it just isn't intuitive. Having to install a different rom every week to see if I can squeeze out a FULL day of use or get my GPS working just isn't fun anymore.
To me, Android has become exactly what a lot of people complained about the iPhone - a toy. The novelty (at least for me) has worn off and I'm back at square one wondering why I feel the need to own such a device. Aside from browse the web and play games, what can Android do that a Blackberry can't? I don't need to play Angry Birds or watch Youtube in HD - I have other devices to handle that. What I want to do is bang out messages and answer phone calls efficiently.
This was never intended as a thread to bash Android or XDA/Developers. I've noticed an enormous difference between stock 2.2 and some of the ROMs out there for the Vibrant. It was simply my observations on some (IMHO) big shortcomings in the platform that haven't been fully addressed.

Well, good luck on your endeavours, even though I think that HTC can solve your problems... maybe you could give the newer HTCs a shot, but hey, who am I to force you?

I think that you can still get your messages and calls out on android efficiently or at least I've managed to but it didn't take too much on my behalf; in the whole time that I've had my phone, I've only flashed 2 ROMs and my phone can pull about 48-51 hrs per charge with moderate use.
Sent from my Bionix-V 1.2 powered Vibrant.

Oniyuri said:
I think that you can still get your messages and calls out on android efficiently or at least I've managed to but it didn't take too much on my behalf; in the whole time that I've had my phone, I've only flashed 2 ROMs and my phone can pull about 48-51 hrs per charge with moderate use.
Sent from my Bionix-V 1.2 powered Vibrant.
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Wow, I like the sound of those numbers. I am getting a little tired of my 8-9 hours of battery life. Flashing new roms seems to be making things worse too. Stock I was getting 9-10.
Sent from my SilverBullet "HTCDesireZ running CM7"

Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you.

I'd do the same as you, only I can't live without widgets and homescreens anymore. I've tried WP7 but just couldn't use it because the lack of customization. GL with your future phones. Atleast you're not going to the darkest side (Apple).

External Monitor App?

I was curious and thought this would be kind of a neat app. Is there an app that I can use to turn my GTab into an external/second monitor for my laptop? If so is it Linux compatible or just Windows? Is it USB or WIFI?

I've been trying to find something like this also.

You could try a remote access app. There are a few to choose from in the market. There are also a few threads here about some of the different options.

Looks like the iPad has one ... wonder if they will work on an Android version:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maxivista/id380146095?mt=8

Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652

jpmi23 said:
Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652
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Too bad too, I like maxivista.
Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
(BTW, I mean the PC version, I have never drunk the apple/itunes koolaid)

nunjabusiness said:
Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
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Lol. I'll second that. Aren't we the "hackers" always looking to do something cool with our open source gadgets? They are as naive as it gets.
I was just thinking of something like this aswell. Is it possible to re-engineer the hdmi-out to take hdmi-in? I'd love to plug my cable box into my tab while i play xbox on the TV (or vice versa) I know there has been no positive progress on hdmi-in with HTC's mini-HDMI implementation. Maybe viewsonic (being a monitor company) has a better possibility? Any dev's feel like taking a crack at it?

iDisplay is available in the android market. works just like the iOS version.

Anyone tried iDisplay on the gtab?
I thought I'd buy it but there are only two bad reviews on their webpage and eleswhere I've read that they do no give refunds. There is no trial version on their site, but their terms of service says that customers are expected to run trial versions before they buy . . .
I sent them a kind message asking them if they truly expect anyone to give them money for basically nothing. But I tried to be nice, and to encourage them to post a trial so I could buy and give them a positive review. Five bucks ain't much, but darned if I'll give it away to shmucks . . .
Anyway, if the app works well, they deserve our support.
My gtab is running vegan5 and I use the HP mini wireless keyboard with both of the office suites available. The gtab is taking place of my laptop and doing a great job of it. To be able to also use it to augment the laptop by giving me more screen real estate would be icing on the cake.
Thanks for posting this thread. I never would have thought if it.

iDisplay working
I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.

matthai5 said:
I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll purchase the app. I loaded the XP application and it appears that a virtual server is created which could be the reason for the slowdown.
It would be nice if some of these application developers provided just a wee bit of info that could be used to determine if an app is appropriate or not. I think that the apple market has set a kind of precedent for wishy-washy frivolity that is going to carry over into the android market unless google demands a higher degree of responsibility. The time is now, before the market matures as android tabs and notebooks take over most of our computing tasks, as I think they will.
The apps written for the old Palm devices were held to a much higher standard than a lot of iPhone apps I've seen. But then the Palm devices were oriented towards business productivity and not so much as toy/entertainment oriented as iPhones and iPads. I spent part of the day with my hands on the Xoom tab, and talking to several Motorola reps and Verizon sales people. I must have sounded like an evangalist for the android OS.
If google is listening I'd like to tell them to take their work seriously right now because they could be taking over the entire personal computing market in the near future. Computing, regardless of platform, is not all about entertainment. We in engineering and science have needs that also require more versatile hardware and software. The tegra3 is just around the corner . . . then what? How will all those extra processing cores be made truly useful? I want an android powered tricorder.
My evangelical proclivities are simply gushing forth . . . (in all the wrong places)
Thanks again to the OP for initiating this thread.

I tried iDisplay today. I like it! It is a bit laggy, but works great other than that!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc

[Q] nextbook next2 upgrade

playing around with girlfriends nextbook next2 android 1.5...there has got to be away to upgrade this toy isnt there?

Google it!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

have already done that as well as many other things just figured if anyone would know it would be someone here and you i can see have no clue but thanks for wasting my time

If you're gonna pout like a baby because someone didn't give you an answer and suggested doing something MOST people don't do before they ask a question then I am glad I could waste your time. Enjoy having some more of your time wasted by reading this post.
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

wow dude thank god there are pros on this site like you

I know right? Haha
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

really guys? to answer the question: apparently it is rooted and using universal anroot? it also runs the archos OS? this is what ive gathered so far...

not much info yet...
Before being rude, maybe some folks should take their own advice and 'google it' to see if there is actually any useful information available.
All I've found after weeks of extensive searching (and I even used a few sources other than the great god google, imagine that!) is that (a) it can be rooted with newer versions of 'universal androot' and (b) someone has suggested that it may be similar enough to one version of the Archos tablet to use that firmware although no one has reported that they've tried and succeeded, and (c) much unverified talk that the hardware isn't sufficient to run anything better than 1.5,
Also interesting and somewhat funny is that if you check the nextbook's website in the download section with Firefox you see only see a couple of software package upgrades, but check it with Internet Explorer and you get more info to the effect that upgrades are "Coming Soon!!!". "Soon' in this case being at least >= about 4 weeks.
An update to even Android 1.6 would be a big help. Unfortunately, with my very limited knowledge of Android/tablets/etc. I'm not ready to try it myself without reports of success from others. It's too useful as is to turn into a brick since there is a lot of software that does work on it (you just have to invest the time to look and try a lot of it to find the right stuff). You might even want to try 'google' to find slightly older (but working) versions of some apps.
Cheers, and good luck!

twitch153 said:
I know right? Haha
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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Simply, Lol

I just bought this device for $89 from Big Lots and I have been googling for the past hour. There's not much about this tablet or any of of the Nextbook products. For that reason also it's probably going back next week. My box says it comes with 2.1 so I assume there is at least an upgrade available from the site. I'd love to be able to reflash this and de-ebook it and have a general android tablet to self customize. It's got a dual core 600mhz.

Chances are if you can't find the info by a quick Google search then you are s**t outta luck. XDA isn't a place where you can magically find the solution to every tech issue you will ever encounter.
One rule of thumb i have when buying a device is whether it is popular enough to have good support from the dev community. If you buy without checking first it becomes a crap-shoot. If you owned a HD2 you would be in luck...but some random device, what are the odds?
Everything has a shelf-life and even the more popular devices will stop being supported eventually. Rather than adapting the device to suit your needs, why not adapt your needs to suit the device? It doesn't need to be running the latest and greatest software to be functional after all. People have converted old Win 98 PC's to be media servers, hardware firewalls, etc.

i also got one from biglots, and for $89 it does e-books, mp3 and video, web browsing with wifi and i can take my sd card out of my camera on vacation and view my photos and upload to facebook.
what more can you ask for for the price? it would be nice to root it and have a working .apk of market to install on it though

Nextbook 2 root and Market
I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob

robbratton said:
I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob
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I also bought from BigLots. I would be happy to learn how you used the freeware tools that you mentioned. Like others, I have searched for many days but can not find out even how to root it temporarily, let alone flash a new ROM. the tools seem to be out there, but how do you put them on the device?
Button combinations at power-on? Put the software on SD? I have done this with other devices, but they tell you how to go into recovery mode.

did a search and found NEXT2 Rom =)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988740
is this not what you are looking for? I am wanting to buy the same thing, but know nothing about rooting a device so I came here looking for information. The above link is what I came across. Please respond if this is what works for the next2. Thanks!

Like others, I got one from Big Lots. $89! Oh, and it has android 2.1 on it!. I had also found the previously mentioned thread before this one. It has 86 pages of posts and most are NOT about the next2 (next3 and a few nearly identical devices with other names). Most of the ROMs posted there are for those other devices with a larger screen and therefore not useable on the next2. It does have some info on how to modify those for use with the next2.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to identify exactly what is in the rom on page one of that thread. If anyone does load it, please id the os version, if it is fully rooted, and if it has the market app in it please. Probably a good thing to load if you have android 1.5 on your next2.
Oh, I haven't read even a third of the posts, but when I read more, if I find something useful, I will report back here.
Oh, and twitch351, if you don't want to help someone because you don't think they have put in time already, researching it, why don't you just ignore them rather than being a butthead about it? I HAVE been doing the research, and you were wasting my time too.

[Beta][4.2+] Android Auto re-imagined for phones and tablets

Ever since Android Auto was announced at Google I/O last year, I really wanted to have it in my car. Unfortunately, I am not in the market for a new car, or even a $800 car stereo that supports Android Auto.
With that in mind, I set out to make an app called AutoMate that gives a similar experience to Android Auto. After five months of work, I am close to releasing a beta version. I am very excited to share some early screen shots with you guys today.
Would you see yourself using something like this? I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions! I can't give an exact release date just yet, but I am hoping for the end of March.
I also created a g+ community that I will be using when the app is ready for beta testing. Please feel free to join to get updates about development.
I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Tnx broo
Congrats men, look very similar to android auto, is a very good option, i test your app and report, and also tell to my friends

Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test

AMAZING!

Sign me right up!

Great work man ! it looks very promising, I surely would like to install it on my galaxy Note 1 running CM12 !
if the app can be triggered by connecting a Bluetooth device or a car-mount (Driving mode) that would be perfect !
keep up the good work, best luck

Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.

Can't wait to try this out in my car install. Would be more than happy to test it for you if needed. Keep up the good work!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113259
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Correct, it's a regular app. Sorry if I was not clear. It's not affiliated with AA or compatible with AA in any way. The reason I posted it here was because some users expressed frustrations with not being able to run the AA UI on their phones, and this app provides an alternative.
mikereidis said:
Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
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Why is this tagged as Beta? it's not available to download. This is at most a teaser, in which I don't see the point. Post when you actually have something to share.

I'm willing to be a tester. I love what you are doing. I have a pioneer AVH-X4700BS so I'd love to see what your app looks like on my 7inch touchscreen. Congrats man

Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!

HiWhatsUpNothin said:
Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.

billydroid said:
Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
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Yep.. I saw that when I just got the notification that someone replied.... Hahaha

Gator Brah said:
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
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This looks awesome, can't wait to test the beta.

I have been using the beta with my in-dash Nexus 7 for a few days and I like it, I like it a lot, it is well designed and easy to navigation however it is a real shame (due to Android / Google play service limitations) that turn by turn directions will leave the app.
I suppose paying for the premium features and having it as the home screen is a good workaround.

Check out the OP's Google+ page. There's a link to download the APK to test it out.

So would this app replace the launcher on my android head unit in my car or is it meant for the phone side of it?

Random text on the screen

Updated the Android auto app today, now it looks like this
Anyone else having this issue?

Yeah I see the same thing on my Headunit app.
LOL. Android Auto is not yet ready for prime-time.
Talk about distracting...

Cheers Good to know its not just me then.
Looks like they took a massive step back not forward with this update
Nice work on the Headunit app btw

Actually, it's not entirely random, for me at least.
I see my email on the screen.
This version is marked "dogfood" instead of "release".
"Dogfood" means that Google employees are testing their own software in their real life probably in their cars. Some expression about "eating your own dogfood".
Google screwed up I think. Maybe this version is "water-marked" so that if an employee leaks pictures they can be identified. But such a version should never end up on Play for everyone.
Same comments on Play and another site; I think everyone with the update is seeing this.