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I'm normally a silent - and thankful - observer here at xda. Just posted this in the Android General section as it applies to all 4.2 devices, but I'm on a Nexus 4 and would like to share it with you here. Mods please beat me if this is a no-no.
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So... want to cache your radio stations on that shiny new Nexus 4? No workie.
If I want to know how to fix something, I come to XDA. I rarely contact actual product support for... anything. But I want an ETA for a fix to this. So I just chatted up Frank S at Slacker and got.. "answers". Transcript follows:
Frank S.: Hi, my name is Frank S.. How may I help you?
ME: When will the Android app be updated for JB 4.2 compatibility? Caching is broken on Nexus 4
Frank S.: This is a known issue with Android 4.2. We expect this to be fixed in a future version of the Android OS. You can avoid this issue by downgrading to the previous version of Android until a fix is released by Google. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
ME: A downgrade is not possible on this device - ships with 4.2. Can you elaborate on the "Android" issue?
Frank S.: Caching does not work on devices running Android 4.2 due to bugs and changes included in that version of Android. This issue does not appear in previous versions of Android, so we are awaiting a fix from Google in the next version.
ME: Just so I'm clear on this... Slacker will absolutely not be updating the app? Have you any information that indicates Google is going to retrofit their new OS to work with your app?
Frank S.: Google has already announced that there are several major bugs included with Android 4.2, and expect to have these fixed in a future update. Since the issue only appears with this version of the OS and since nothing with the Slacker app has changed as a result of updating to 4.2, we expect to see what changes Google plans before attempting to update the app to work around OS bugs.
ME: Well then... Caching is the sole reason I use Slacker over other services. I will attempt to find a workaround today, but if I fail I will need to cancel the remainder of my subscription
Frank S.: I do apologize for the inconvenience. Since your device is unable to downgrade to 4.1, you should be able to access cached content from your previous device until an update is available.
ME: Previous device? Not in the habit of keeping old devices
Frank S.: THat would be the only solutionwe are able to offer at this time.
ME: Are you saying a pro-rated refund is off the table here?
Frank S.: Slacker does not offer any refunds on purchased subscriptions.
ME: ....nor app updates for compatibility with new platforms? What you're saying is outrageous
Frank S.: Slacker never guarantees that all subscriptions services will be compatible with all phones and all versions of operating systems. While we will always try to make sure our app is available for use for most phones and that as many subscription features are available, some updates may take time to receive, especially on devices that are updated first.
ME: You just got done saying that Slacker would not be updating the app for 4.2 - Do I have that wrong?
Frank S.: We are waiting for Google to release what changes they are making to 4.2 before attempting to update the app to work around OS bugs.
Frank S.: Once we have that information, we will act accordingly.
ME: What "bugs" would you be referring to? Updates to OS framework and functions perhaps? Either Slacker has plans to update for 4.2 compatibility or it doesn't. How does the "OS bug" argument apply here? What is the bug??
Frank S.: I don't have any specific information on the exact issue, only that it is a known issue with Slacker on Android 4.2 and we are currently investigating and awaiting more information from Google before further action is taken
Frank S.: At some point in the future, I would expect the Slacker app to be compatible with Android 4.2, but I don't have any information on when that would be.
ME: Okay.. how about a simple "We're working on the issue...", instead of "Google is the devil and they broke our app!" Thanks
I hope this was a rogue agent... Is "Blame Google!" actually Slacker's stance on this?
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Well, they are called Slacker Radio...
Sucks...
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Dam, cut the guy some slack. He tried explaining. I knew what he was saying right off but you grilled the hell out of him.
Done, their all is not yet compatibke with 4.2 due to a caching issue..supposedly. Either way you guys are out for blood here.
I am sure they will have the app fixed soon.
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Richieboy67 said:
Dam, cut the guy some slack. He tried explaining. I knew what he was saying right off but you grilled the hell out of him.
Done, their all is not yet compatibke with 4.2 due to a caching issue..supposedly. Either way you guys are out for blood here.
I am sure they will have the app fixed soon.
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Wow, thank you for your input. I just re-read the transcript and you are absolutely right but... where was it exactly that he didn't say they were going to sit on it until Google fixes the "major bugs" in 4.2 that break Slacker? Near the end I suppose. Read the transcript again (if you can). :silly:
It's unreasonable to expect that Slacker is updated right this second.
It is absolutely unacceptable for a paid subscription service to broom a paying customer with BS like this - again, if this is actually the company line. Anyone (hopefully) have a more encouraging exchange with a Slacker rep?
Evidently they don't have a huge subscriber base moving to Android 4.2, but FYI I tried Slacker chat again just now, different rep. They're not willing to look at this issue at all.
According to them, Android 4.2 is absolutely "riddled with bugs.."
Sad.
The Slacker app hasn't been "bug free" in the 2 years I've subscribed to the service, but I've not complained until now. They have my $$$ for 4 more months of service that I can't use - and will force me to involve the CC company rather than simply pro-rate a refund. Shameful.
Anyone caching music with Rhapsody on your N4?
I'd be surprised if your card company does anything. It's not Slacker's fault you moved from your supported device to an unsupported one.
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I'd be surprised if your card company does anything. It's not Slacker's fault you moved from your supported device to an unsupported one.
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Really?
From Slacker.com 11/26/2012: http://support.slacker.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/67
"The Slacker Radio application is only supported on Android phones and devices running any version of the Android Os 2.x or higher."
I missed the part where it says "..If you ever upgrade to a current generation device (past Android 4.1), Eff you. We appreciate the free cash".
Slacker subscribers beware
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Wow, thank you for your input. I just re-read the transcript and you are absolutely right but... where was it exactly that he didn't say they were going to sit on it until Google fixes the "major bugs" in 4.2 that break Slacker? Near the end I suppose. Read the transcript again (if you can). :silly:
It's unreasonable to expect that Slacker is updated right this second.
It is absolutely unacceptable for a paid subscription service to broom a paying customer with BS like this - again, if this is actually the company line. Anyone (hopefully) have a more encouraging exchange with a Slacker rep?
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I am just saying that the guy you were yelling at only works there. I agree that they are wronging you. They owe you a refund at least.
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Well after insisting just yesterday they didn't intend to address this issue at all, Slacker has updated their app. Nice... since I purchased Rhapsody earlier today
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A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
Apparently Google Now will get even smarter than it currently is, with the voice-based assistant getting some sort of answering back features. Furthermore, Google Now will be able to search apps and launch them to perform tasks and show more Google Now cards based on the user’s location:
But the stuff Google says is coming November 13 is the real gravy, and it’s a shame it isn’t already ladled on. One of those things is the ability to ask you questions — so you might say “text Jennifer” and it will reply “which Jennifer,” and then ask you to dictate the message. It’s also going to get the ability to search inside applications, and launch them to complete tasks for you. So, you might search for a restaurant, and an option in the results shows up for OpenTable, which you’ll be able to fire up and make a reservation. It’s also going to use location cues to drop cards into Google Now, even more so than it does currently. At Yellowstone it will show you geyser times, for example. Sadly, none of this stuff was lit up yet, so I wasn’t able to test it. I’m not dinging the phone for that (and it’s not getting any extra credit), but given how interesting these features are, it’s kind of crazy the phone launched without them.
Mathew Honan
Wired
As we have recently learned, the Nexus 5 is more about Google Search services (Google Now included) than any other Nexus before it, not that it’s a bad thing, especially for Android users looking forward to such an Android experience. However, some of those Google Search feature – essentially the new launcher – will be a Nexus 5 exclusive for now, at least officially, so it’ll be interesting to see whether these new Google Now features will be available for everyone else or not.
However, we’re certainly not surprised to hear that Google Now is getting smarter. We’ll be waiting to see Google’s announcement next week to tell you more details about this apparently imminent Google Now update.
Wired has also learned that the Nexus 5 will get a camera update that will fix existing issues with it – check out these posts for camera comparisons with the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5S.
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nothing here yet
Nothing here yet either!
I really hope that the next update will fix the current software issues too...
hmmm nothing here yet
just checked (at 11.12) and nothing
Oh boy, another rumor thread!
I will be shocked if Google fixes the camera issues this quickly. If it such an easy fix I do not understand why they would release the camera software the way it is currently.
Google just needs to by Kodak or some other company they can fix up. I am sure they can afford to purchase them and better camera's and software in phones is the future right now.
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Google didn't announce a Nexus 5 update like they with the the 4, 7 & 10 yesterday. I doubt it's coming this week.
ratedr75 said:
A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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Maybe I am a little slow but I do not get the connection.....
Anyway, the new rumor is that Nexus 5 will be released on November 28th because Kit-Kat posted a picture of a Turkey weighing 28lbs! That is the release date and I am sticking to it!
I will be very surprised if we get an update today or even this month.
I'm obviously a newbie, but since I"m using a Nexus 7 (with Autodroid currently) as the head unit for my car, I'm wondering if it's possible to use (or adapt?) Auto, when it comes out, to the Nexus 7? I'm sure it's possible, but what might be involved? Is it practicle?
I have some programming experience, but it's been a long time. Nevertheless, it might be fun to try if it's not too involved.
Thanks to all who contribute to these forums!
I'm pretty sure it comes built in with cars so unless your willing to buy the hardware idk...
I might be wrong though. xx
~Kate xoxo
Check out AutoMate!
Im also running a nexus 7 as my head unit. Came back this forum with the same question..... would android auto be ported to a tablet? Im pretty happy with my my nexus running pure android but you know curiosity killed the cat....
AutoMate? That looks very interesting.
Maybe I don't know where to click, but I don't see much about it other than it's "Android Auto, re-imagined for phones and tablets". It's a horrible search name, since the search noise makes it impossible to search for.
I can't see it on Google Play. I joined the community, but there's no news from anywhere or anyone that I can see about it, only unanswered comments from other people who have joined. What am I missing? Can I download this somewhere?
Thanks!
The g+ community has a small description section explaining what AutoMate is, along with some screen shots. It's currently under development with a target for early April.
Kman9 said:
AutoMate? That looks very interesting.
Maybe I don't know where to click, but I don't see much about it other than it's "Android Auto, re-imagined for phones and tablets". It's a horrible search name, since the search noise makes it impossible to search for.
I can't see it on Google Play. I joined the community, but there's no news from anywhere or anyone that I can see about it, only unanswered comments from other people who have joined. What am I missing? Can I download this somewhere?
Thanks!
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Thanks for that. I see it now.
I'll be very interested in how this plays out. Currently I've got my Nexus 7 running pretty well as a head unit, but it could always be better!
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Im also running a nexus 7 as my head unit. Came back this forum with the same question..... would android auto be ported to a tablet?
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I think this will be figured out.
But Google is likely to resist and may not allow apps that help on Google Play.
Who cares, there is a lot of apps available only on xda, it will be one of it !
http://storage.googleapis.com/andro...developers_backstage/ADB 23 Reincarnation.mp3
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Everything Is just processing and everything just happens on phone, video is just sent to head car unit and displayed on screen, it's 100% sure that there is a way to baypass this and just use phone screen as head unit screen, that's it
brainscollector said:
Everything Is just processing and everything just happens on phone, video is just sent to head car unit and displayed on screen, it's 100% sure that there is a way to baypass this and just use phone screen as head unit screen, that's it
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From Google's perspective, to some extent, yes.
But head units can add "external" features, like Pioneer's AM/FM and HD radio.
These "external" features might even be possible to "internalize" to some extent, to avoid the hassles and UI discrepancies that mode buttons bring. (Not positive yet.)
I have noted there is a protocol between phone and head unit. It's not a simple hardware type connection like HDMI/DVI for video for example.
This is an extensible protocol of course, and future possibilities are limitless. I'll write some more of what I've found on the developer mode thread I started.
Ever since Android Auto was announced at Google I/O last year, I really wanted to have it in my car. Unfortunately, I am not in the market for a new car, or even a $800 car stereo that supports Android Auto.
With that in mind, I set out to make an app called AutoMate that gives a similar experience to Android Auto. After five months of work, I am close to releasing a beta version. I am very excited to share some early screen shots with you guys today.
Would you see yourself using something like this? I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions! I can't give an exact release date just yet, but I am hoping for the end of March.
I also created a g+ community that I will be using when the app is ready for beta testing. Please feel free to join to get updates about development.
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Tnx broo
Congrats men, look very similar to android auto, is a very good option, i test your app and report, and also tell to my friends
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
AMAZING!
Sign me right up!
Great work man ! it looks very promising, I surely would like to install it on my galaxy Note 1 running CM12 !
if the app can be triggered by connecting a Bluetooth device or a car-mount (Driving mode) that would be perfect !
keep up the good work, best luck
Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
Can't wait to try this out in my car install. Would be more than happy to test it for you if needed. Keep up the good work!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113259
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Correct, it's a regular app. Sorry if I was not clear. It's not affiliated with AA or compatible with AA in any way. The reason I posted it here was because some users expressed frustrations with not being able to run the AA UI on their phones, and this app provides an alternative.
mikereidis said:
Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
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Why is this tagged as Beta? it's not available to download. This is at most a teaser, in which I don't see the point. Post when you actually have something to share.
I'm willing to be a tester. I love what you are doing. I have a pioneer AVH-X4700BS so I'd love to see what your app looks like on my 7inch touchscreen. Congrats man
Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
billydroid said:
Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
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Yep.. I saw that when I just got the notification that someone replied.... Hahaha
Gator Brah said:
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
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This looks awesome, can't wait to test the beta.
I have been using the beta with my in-dash Nexus 7 for a few days and I like it, I like it a lot, it is well designed and easy to navigation however it is a real shame (due to Android / Google play service limitations) that turn by turn directions will leave the app.
I suppose paying for the premium features and having it as the home screen is a good workaround.
Check out the OP's Google+ page. There's a link to download the APK to test it out.
So would this app replace the launcher on my android head unit in my car or is it meant for the phone side of it?
I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
Imadroider said:
I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
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I am enrolled in the beta program... Running Pure Nexus... 2-15...
I clean flashes the other day after thinking about switching Roms... And for the first time I did not have to revert the build.prop line to train the assistant...
Google App 6.14.12.21.arm
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Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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Thanks for the reply. Kind of strange that a weekend ago Google announced it wound start hitting capable phone starting last week in the US first yet it seems no one has received the update.
I'm on a Nexus 6P, never rooted, in the Beta program with 7.1.2. I'm also in the Google Play Services beta program. I have installed the Pixel Launcher from APK but otherwise stock. So far no Assistant. Live in the US.
Still no assistant here either. Are we missing something, or has Google not actually released the update like they said they would? I don't know of anyone that has actually received it to this point.
It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Someone in the FB group received Assistant about an hour after installing the latest Google App beta APK. I just tried it. Probably a coincidence, but at least someone has reported getting Assistant.
Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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You have to have the correct Play Services but Google still has to "turn it on" on their end. That seems to be what is taking so long. As long as your Play Services are up to date you should be good. I entered the beta program for that as well. Still no Assistant though.
Mine was activated yesterday, right around the time I updated to the 7.1.1 March security patch. Don't know if there's a direct relation though.
I just got it today, I had everything updated and it showed up on its own.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Yay:victory:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Looks like we're very slowly but surely on our way. Still no GA love for the 2 stock 6P's in my house yet.
Edit: P.S. I didn't start this thread to complain, I was just wondering if I was the only one not receiving the GA update. I can only imagine what a mind blowing amount of mega giga google flops of computing power it must take for what must be thousands (if not tens of thousands) of questions per second via voice, interpret it, then send the answer back. All within a second or 2. For the thousands or tens or thousands of users asking/interacting at the same time. Mind boggling. It's probably a very slow rollout to be able to keep up and ramp up for the onslaught until they get a full picture of what the new computing/server farm needs will be.
My Nexus 6 has it, my wife's 6p does not.
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Just got it guys. Running LOs, Google app ver. 6.13.25.21, and Google Play Services ver. 10.2.99, location Kosovo. It feels great not to do so many workarounds just to have it
East coast rolled out 32GB.
Still Waiting as well
I am still waiting as well. February 5 Security Patch, Google(Beta) 6.14.14.21.arm and Play Services 10.2.98.
Like so many others I signed up for Play Services Beta, but unlike the others I never got a bump up (update), and Still have not received the March Security Update.
But I swear if I don't side load most things from Google I am the last to get them.