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Porting Android Auto to existing Windows CE car headunits

Hey folks. Apologies if this is in the wrong area. Now that Android Auto is announced (http://www.android.com/auto/), I know there are lots of folks with Windows CE-based car headunits. I'm wondering if we could start a conversation about getting Android Auto set up on those head units. I have no idea what would be involved, but I want to see if it's a possibility for discussion.

I would also be interested in this if it is possible to port it to other windows or Microsoft based systems.

Yeah I'm bumping this for sure - I've got Microsoft Sync in mine, but it's the non-touch version, so I'm not sure if Android Auto could be configured for that hardware...

You can pretty much forget about this idea right now guys. Even the most advanced and most recent CE head units use hardware that is so outdated that even 1st gen android phones look cutting edge in comparsion (typically 400-800mhz single core processors and 128-256mb of ram). Even if it was somehow done it would be a serious pain in the behind to use.

Simply put no it will not happen
99.9 percent of windows ce devices are armv6
Only first gen android runs on that and android 5.0 requires atleast armv7
Ot would require a complete rewrite of android from the ground up and thats 2-3 yrs work if you can find a team of about 30 devs all willing to give up their day jobs to do it for free
90 percent of all android head units available already will not see auto at all just like all the android watches that will mever receive wear
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silent_bob52637 said:
Simply put no it will not happen
99.9 percent of windows ce devices are armv6
Only first gen android runs on that and android 5.0 requires atleast armv7
Ot would require a complete rewrite of android from the ground up and thats 2-3 yrs work if you can find a team of about 30 devs all willing to give up their day jobs to do it for free
90 percent of all android head units available already will not see auto at all just like all the android watches that will mever receive wear
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That's assuming that Android Auto is running full-blown Android. My understanding is that the phone is doing all of the heavy lifting and the head unit is effectively a "dumb display" similar to MirrorLink. If that's the case, then the head unit doesn't need to do much and they are probably using some pretty low-spec hardware already. Now, if you're trying to get Android 5.0 on these systems so you can run Android Auto without a separate phone, then I agree - most headunits will not be able to handle that with their low specs
Anybody have any info on what the head unit is actually running on an Android Auto system? Does Google provide anything as an example, or is it strictly APIs and left unto the car/HU manufacturers to figure it out?

tbkdan said:
That's assuming that Android Auto is running full-blown Android. My understanding is that the phone is doing all of the heavy lifting and the head unit is effectively a "dumb display" similar to MirrorLink. If that's the case, then the head unit doesn't need to do much and they are probably using some pretty low-spec hardware already. Now, if you're trying to get Android 5.0 on these systems so you can run Android Auto without a separate phone, then I agree - most headunits will not be able to handle that with their low specs
Anybody have any info on what the head unit is actually running on an Android Auto system? Does Google provide anything as an example, or is it strictly APIs and left unto the car/HU manufacturers to figure it out?
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Android 5.0
Android wear
And android auto are all the same os
Need the same type of specs just look at the moto 360 and lg watch
Way to powerful to have on a windows ce device
The watches are also nothing more then a notification mirror on a digital watch with specs of over 1ghz cpu and 512mb ram the most powerdul windows ce device is the htc hd2
Which runs a 1ghz cpu and 512 mb of ram in the eu model
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silent_bob52637 said:
Android 5.0
Android wear
And android auto are all the same os
Need the same type of specs just look at the moto 360 and lg watch
Way to powerful to have on a windows ce device
The watches are also nothing more then a notification mirror on a digital watch with specs of over 1ghz cpu and 512mb ram the most powerdul windows ce device is the htc hd2
Which runs a 1ghz cpu and 512 mb of ram in the eu model
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www . androidcentral . com/all-you-need-know-about-android-auto
This one's important to remember. Android Auto is on your phone, not embedded into the car. This is the same approach Apple took with CarPlay and is probably the best way to go about it. The auto manufacturers build support for the platform into their own systems – many built on top of the BlackBerry owned QNX OS – and then Android Auto becomes visible to you when you connect your phone.
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The head unit is not running Android (although I suppose it could). The head unit is running whatever OS the manufacturer wants and interacts with the phone, acting as somewhat of a dumb terminal to display information from the phone. The phone is running the meat and potatoes of the Android Auto solution.

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Does anyone know of a car infotainment system that has been rooted? I am thinking of installing one in my 2005 Subaru Outback and am hoping to have something that I can install my preferred apps on. I know I can use my Nexus 7 to do it but I'd prefer more of a 'drop in' unit.

bbc0 said:
Does anyone know of a car infotainment system that has been rooted? I am thinking of installing one in my 2005 Subaru Outback and am hoping to have something that I can install my preferred apps on. I know I can use my Nexus 7 to do it but I'd prefer more of a 'drop in' unit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662

That's not android auto for Windows CE, but this app Easyconnected allows you to mirror everything from your Android phone through usb cable. Just activate usb debugging on developer options.
I know it's in Chinese, but nothing that Google translator couldn't help.
http://www.carbit.cn/

rvbeppler said:
http://www.carbit.cn/
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Good link. Now if someone could get it running on their own HU

rewen said:
Good link. Now if someone could get it running on their own HU
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I've got to run it on my Hyundai OEM navigation, made by Motrex. It works perfectly, but I had to use an old version to change the language to English, hacking the zip file with languages, I've exchanged the file name with English phrases to the Chinese file name.
In the newer versions, this zip file has a password and I didn't find another way to exchange the language from Chinese.

Can you elaborate on how you got it working? I've got a 2013 Santa Fe Sport (Limited; nav) and would kill for this. I've been searching junkyards for 2017 head units lol

I've used total commander disguised as an update (renamed it as update.exe inside the folder update) on a flash drive, and the my head unit recognize it as an update.
When I go to settings - > update, total commander opens and after it I can run whenever program I want.
P.S. only works in Motrex headunits which are used by Hyundai in Russia and Latin America. European, Korean and American cars use another head units.
Source: http://www.santa3.ru/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1736
http://sorento.kia-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=32135
(Used Google chrome to translate it)
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rvbeppler said:
P.S. only works in Motrex headunits which are used by Hyundai in Russia and Latin America. European, Korean and American cars use another head units.
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What a shame.. I wonder if I can find anything for the North American head unit..

Hi guys. I install the application from carbit.cn , it is a good software, I was able to mirroring my Android phones (Samsung S4 and S6 edge also S4 mini ) to WinCe 6.0 , but I want to have this app in English , not in Chinese , I tried to rename the file from zip archive languages, res_Lang_CHN.xml to res_Lang_EN.xml , because in app the isn't a option to change language, but the program remain in chinese language, I saw just a few words are translated , the zip file has a password, I can't extract the xml file to be able to change it , have you any idea how I can do this ? Also there is an android app called CarMan.apk , witch is also in chinese , how I can skip not to install ?
Regards,
Emil

I am directly send mail to carbit. They don't share pass or language package​ but customer service send another program to me now I am using Turkish.
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hzr34 said:
I am directly send mail to carbit. They don't share pass or language package​ but customer service send another program to me now I am using Turkish.
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What's that another program? Can you share it with us?
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[Q] Android auto for tablets?

I'm obviously a newbie, but since I"m using a Nexus 7 (with Autodroid currently) as the head unit for my car, I'm wondering if it's possible to use (or adapt?) Auto, when it comes out, to the Nexus 7? I'm sure it's possible, but what might be involved? Is it practicle?
I have some programming experience, but it's been a long time. Nevertheless, it might be fun to try if it's not too involved.
Thanks to all who contribute to these forums!

I'm pretty sure it comes built in with cars so unless your willing to buy the hardware idk...
I might be wrong though. xx
~Kate xoxo

Check out AutoMate!

Im also running a nexus 7 as my head unit. Came back this forum with the same question..... would android auto be ported to a tablet? Im pretty happy with my my nexus running pure android but you know curiosity killed the cat....

AutoMate? That looks very interesting.
Maybe I don't know where to click, but I don't see much about it other than it's "Android Auto, re-imagined for phones and tablets". It's a horrible search name, since the search noise makes it impossible to search for.
I can't see it on Google Play. I joined the community, but there's no news from anywhere or anyone that I can see about it, only unanswered comments from other people who have joined. What am I missing? Can I download this somewhere?
Thanks!

The g+ community has a small description section explaining what AutoMate is, along with some screen shots. It's currently under development with a target for early April.
Kman9 said:
AutoMate? That looks very interesting.
Maybe I don't know where to click, but I don't see much about it other than it's "Android Auto, re-imagined for phones and tablets". It's a horrible search name, since the search noise makes it impossible to search for.
I can't see it on Google Play. I joined the community, but there's no news from anywhere or anyone that I can see about it, only unanswered comments from other people who have joined. What am I missing? Can I download this somewhere?
Thanks!
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Thanks for that. I see it now.
I'll be very interested in how this plays out. Currently I've got my Nexus 7 running pretty well as a head unit, but it could always be better!

Gator Brah said:
Im also running a nexus 7 as my head unit. Came back this forum with the same question..... would android auto be ported to a tablet?
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I think this will be figured out.
But Google is likely to resist and may not allow apps that help on Google Play.

Who cares, there is a lot of apps available only on xda, it will be one of it !
http://storage.googleapis.com/andro...developers_backstage/ADB 23 Reincarnation.mp3
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Everything Is just processing and everything just happens on phone, video is just sent to head car unit and displayed on screen, it's 100% sure that there is a way to baypass this and just use phone screen as head unit screen, that's it

brainscollector said:
Everything Is just processing and everything just happens on phone, video is just sent to head car unit and displayed on screen, it's 100% sure that there is a way to baypass this and just use phone screen as head unit screen, that's it
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From Google's perspective, to some extent, yes.
But head units can add "external" features, like Pioneer's AM/FM and HD radio.
These "external" features might even be possible to "internalize" to some extent, to avoid the hassles and UI discrepancies that mode buttons bring. (Not positive yet.)
I have noted there is a protocol between phone and head unit. It's not a simple hardware type connection like HDMI/DVI for video for example.
This is an extensible protocol of course, and future possibilities are limitless. I'll write some more of what I've found on the developer mode thread I started.

[Q] Have you seen Android Auto?

It's still pretty new but I was wondering what if anybody has seen Android Auto?
What do you think of it?
Do you think it's better/worse than Apple's CarPlay?
It seems pretty cool from a developer's standpoint - you can actually create apps to use in the car!

I've seen demonstrations of both at the Chicago Auto Show. To me, I don't see why you would compare one to the other. I think early adopters that are going to want this at this point in time are well established in the ecosystem of their choice and they are going to pick the one that matches their ecosystem.

Well i just have to say it... The design of carplay is catastrophic compared to auto... There i had to put that out

I haven't seen it in person, but it looks pretty good in my opinion.
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jkcarp94 said:
I've seen demonstrations of both at the Chicago Auto Show. To me, I don't see why you would compare one to the other. I think early adopters that are going to want this at this point in time are well established in the ecosystem of their choice and they are going to pick the one that matches their ecosystem.
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I agree that people who are well established in their ecosystems will pick one over there other -- but is that really good for innovation? It seems like we aren't really pushing to develop new interactions but rather trying to shove the same ideas into a car ecosystem... just a thought

Good

The pioneer AVH-4100NE is shipping right now for... 700$...

Someone know when will Google put this app to store?
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DiTubex said:
Someone know when will Google put this app to store?
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The app is available in the store.

Seen it. Bought it.
jarahsames said:
It's still pretty new but I was wondering what if anybody has seen Android Auto?
What do you think of it?
Do you think it's better/worse than Apple's CarPlay?
It seems pretty cool from a developer's standpoint - you can actually create apps to use in the car!
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The pioneer head unit supports fully both AA and Carplay. Either way, it's a win, win for me. I've been using sync up until now, and unfortunately many of my mobile/auto apps do not work as expected with the new lollipop. So far I am impressed. How developers will use this should be interesting. My phone as always been part of my car so most things are already out there for use, but who knows what other great features have been overlooked and are waiting for creative development.

killa2009 said:
The app is available in the store.
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How is it call? Can you give me a link?
Or it built in maps? I can't find it...
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How is it call? Can you give me a link?
Or it built in maps? I can't find it...
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Its called android auto

killa2009 said:
Its called android auto
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Look at that, this play store throws..
Please, give me a link.
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DiTubex said:
Look at that, this play store throws..
Please, give me a link.
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Check out "Android Auto" - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead

Required Android 5.0+
Thx mate!

[Beta][4.2+] Android Auto re-imagined for phones and tablets

Ever since Android Auto was announced at Google I/O last year, I really wanted to have it in my car. Unfortunately, I am not in the market for a new car, or even a $800 car stereo that supports Android Auto.
With that in mind, I set out to make an app called AutoMate that gives a similar experience to Android Auto. After five months of work, I am close to releasing a beta version. I am very excited to share some early screen shots with you guys today.
Would you see yourself using something like this? I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions! I can't give an exact release date just yet, but I am hoping for the end of March.
I also created a g+ community that I will be using when the app is ready for beta testing. Please feel free to join to get updates about development.
I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Tnx broo
Congrats men, look very similar to android auto, is a very good option, i test your app and report, and also tell to my friends

Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test

AMAZING!

Sign me right up!

Great work man ! it looks very promising, I surely would like to install it on my galaxy Note 1 running CM12 !
if the app can be triggered by connecting a Bluetooth device or a car-mount (Driving mode) that would be perfect !
keep up the good work, best luck

Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.

Can't wait to try this out in my car install. Would be more than happy to test it for you if needed. Keep up the good work!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113259
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Correct, it's a regular app. Sorry if I was not clear. It's not affiliated with AA or compatible with AA in any way. The reason I posted it here was because some users expressed frustrations with not being able to run the AA UI on their phones, and this app provides an alternative.
mikereidis said:
Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
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Why is this tagged as Beta? it's not available to download. This is at most a teaser, in which I don't see the point. Post when you actually have something to share.

I'm willing to be a tester. I love what you are doing. I have a pioneer AVH-X4700BS so I'd love to see what your app looks like on my 7inch touchscreen. Congrats man

Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!

HiWhatsUpNothin said:
Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.

billydroid said:
Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
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Yep.. I saw that when I just got the notification that someone replied.... Hahaha

Gator Brah said:
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
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This looks awesome, can't wait to test the beta.

I have been using the beta with my in-dash Nexus 7 for a few days and I like it, I like it a lot, it is well designed and easy to navigation however it is a real shame (due to Android / Google play service limitations) that turn by turn directions will leave the app.
I suppose paying for the premium features and having it as the home screen is a good workaround.

Check out the OP's Google+ page. There's a link to download the APK to test it out.

So would this app replace the launcher on my android head unit in my car or is it meant for the phone side of it?

Android Auto/CarHome Ultra

I like Android Auto on my 2018 Hyudnai SFSAWD. However, I have another app on my Note 8 (not Rooted) that is called CarHome Ultra and have used it for years. It is much cleaner and has many more options that just Android Auto.
My question is there anyone who is familiar with CarHome Ultra and knows of a way to display/use that when in Android Auto?
My Note 8 is big, but the Display on the car is much bigger and better for driving.
CarHome is on Google Play and has so many options.
Here is a video on the apk and what it does. Much cleaner and more capability than just Android Auto.
Any comments/suggestions appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATHzb5HSPRQ

asctony said:
I like Android Auto on my 2018 Hyudnai SFSAWD. However, I have another app on my Note 8 (not Rooted) that is called CarHome Ultra and have used it for years. It is much cleaner and has many more options that just Android Auto.
My question is there anyone who is familiar with CarHome Ultra and knows of a way to display/use that when in Android Auto?
My Note 8 is big, but the Display on the car is much bigger and better for driving.
CarHome is on Google Play and has so many options.
Here is a video on the apk and what it does. Much cleaner and more capability than just Android Auto.
Any comments/suggestions appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATHzb5HSPRQ
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I guess it is Mirror Link application. It's different (than AA) standard that need to be supported by your car audio and your smartphone.
The apps have to use valid certificates and then Mirror Link can be used with CarHome app.
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I guess it is Mirror Link application. It's different (than AA) standard that need to be supported by your car audio and your smartphone.
The apps have to use valid certificates and then Mirror Link can be used with CarHome app.
Regards.
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Thanks for your info. I guess there is no way for this to happen. I would really like to see something like this incorporated into AA. So much functionality.

In case it is a standalone car dashboard application, you can use AA Mirror to mirror it to your Android Auto head unit.

Download will try later and let everyone know.

Tried this apk today in the WiFi and USB modes to no success. See Attch. The apk works on my phone but only has options for:
1. Mirror to PC
2. Mirror to Phone
I do require some clarification. What do you mean by:
1. Standalone car dashboard app? (I assume that CarHome Ultra is that since I can use that in my car(s) and get all functionality on the Note 8 screen.)
2. Android Auto head unit? ( I assume that is my Hyundai AV Display on my dash.)
Thanks for your time and info. I do appreciate it greatly.

Please check this link to get an idea of mirroring your screen to your AndroidAuto head unit:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...irror-screen-android-auto-disucssion-t3734180
Please check this thread for a simplified guide to set it up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GolfGTI/comments/9f07de/howto_mirror_your_phone_screen_with_android_auto/
It is fairly simple to get it running and you should be able to view(mirror) and control the CarHome Ultra app from your phone to your car display (provided it supports Android Auto).

Hateislove said:
Please check this link to get an idea of mirroring your screen to your AndroidAuto head unit:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...irror-screen-android-auto-disucssion-t3734180
Please check this thread for a simplified guide to set it up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GolfGTI/comments/9f07de/howto_mirror_your_phone_screen_with_android_auto/
It is fairly simple to get it running and you should be able to view(mirror) and control the CarHome Ultra app from your phone to your car display (provided it supports Android Auto).
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Thank you very much for the help and info you have provided. I'm sure others will also find this very valuable.
I do have a Note 8, not rooted. My 2018 Hyundai SF Sports AWD does have Android Auto and it is really great.
The only thing that I don't like about the Hyundai AA is that it does not indicate Speed, Compass, and is somewhat limited on the apps that you can use in AA.
I would have assumed that if AA was running Android it would have allowed all Android APKs to be run just like a phone. JMHO!
However, I do understand that their are limitations on all software. If only CarHome Ultra was certified to run on AA, that would really solve the problem. I did write CarHome Ultra Support and asked if they could do something to make this app compatible with AA. Still have not heard back from them.
Again, Thank you for all the help and info. People like you make this forum a valuable asset to all who visit this site.

You're welcome, my friend.
Sadly, Android Auto has very limited capabilities and many, many restrictions with regard to its usage and modifications at this point. Please note that Android Auto is not the same as Android. If your car unit supports only AA, your experience will be very limited. However, there are many members who are trying to make the best of it and developing new ways of tweaking it (AA Mirror mentioned above is an example).
IMHO, you're better off with a head unit that has its own processor and runs complete Android by itself. The possibilities with these head units are endless as they feature a complete Android environment unlike Android Auto.
Hope you have a great weekend.

Hateislove said:
You're welcome, my friend. IMHO, you're better off with a head unit that has its own processor and runs complete Android by itself. The possibilities with these head units are endless as they feature a complete Android environment unlike Android Auto.
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Still have not found a solution since I do not want to ROOT my phone. What head unit has its own processor and runs complete Android by itself?
Thank you again my friend for your time and help!!!!

asctony said:
Still have not found a solution since I do not want to ROOT my phone. What head unit has its own processor and runs complete Android by itself?
Thank you again my friend for your time and help!!!!
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There are many available online. You can also ask your local car accessories shop. Its better to invest in something with good specs though it might be a little pricey.
Let me know if you need any further help.

Hateislove said:
There are many available online. You can also ask your local car accessories shop. Its better to invest in something with good specs though it might be a little pricey. Let me know if you need any further help.
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Totally confused with your reply. Don't know what a local car accessories shop can provide with me trying to mirror CarHome on my AA. I just think that AA is good, but very limited in using Android Apks unless you are looking for all the news Apks. JMHO!
I do say Thank you! You really try to help. I greatly appreciate it.

asctony said:
Still have not found a solution since I do not want to ROOT my phone. What head unit has its own processor and runs complete Android by itself?
Thank you again my friend for your time and help!!!!
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asctony said:
Totally confused with your reply. Don't know what a local car accessories shop can provide with me trying to mirror CarHome on my AA. I just think that AA is good, but very limited in using Android Apks unless you are looking for all the news Apks. JMHO!
I do say Thank you! You really try to help. I greatly appreciate it.
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You asked which head unit runs Android by itself. My answer was for that.
If you want to run APKs or mirror your screen to your head unit, you will have to root your phone, I guess.