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Hi All,
Can someone PLEASE explain me howcome the Exynos variant's bootloader is unlockable while his Snapdragon counterpart is not? was it made in purpose from Samsung's side?
Is this bootloader unlocking of the Snapdragon variant is "dead end" 100% and he who wants custom recovery (TWRP) on Note 8 should obtain ONLY the Exynos variant ?
Thank you very much
Yes its dead it wont happen
pbedard said:
Yes its dead it wont happen
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Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
I'm changing to htc
rpz79 said:
Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
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So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
rpz79 said:
Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Yeah that's the best thing you could do. Honestly rooting and roms dien breed unfortunately. It hurts me to say that I am a die hard fan of it. I knew my model didn't have the best for root before I bought. Phone has the most sought after features.
I mean look at apple even copying a lot of samsung. That says something. I got my model because my carrier offered a more affordable payment plan then samsung. Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
Nick216ohio said:
Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
ultramag69 said:
Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
Nick216ohio said:
Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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That is definitely true. I remember having galaxy 1,2,3 and it was Rom heaven. I don't see One Plus going that route though. They started from the gate with Rom openness and listening.
I definitely think it's wrong how all the big phone makers turned there back on Rom community. Most of the great features phones have now days is because of developers. Then constraint that wtf?
No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
Im happy without root. Since we can do so many tweaks woth ADB and we also have apps. Like disconnet pro or adhell which only works on samsung phones to remove ads on apps. (Hate those vpn software like blokada adguard etc). Other things like getting spotify apps free ads. Youtube app free ads can all be found here if u look for it. Not sure why i would need root now.
rpz79 said:
No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
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Has a lot to do with Carriers and Manufacturers.
Greed-
Choking innovation-
Little bit of security-
They know Roms can prolong the life of a phone and have features that the next device has. Of course they want you to buy over priced products every year.
Basically Androids turning into Apple. Google this if you will. Apple charges $1k for iphone x, yet only costs them $357 to make. That's incredible greedy returns.
Most of us at XDA know all this, but what can we do? We just say screw it and buy atleast the best android phone. You want root/rom? Stick to international/manufactured versions. Also make sure that international version has bootloader Unlock. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Stick to international/manufactured versions. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Gotta find which version is bootloader unlocked 1st. Because you get screwed like you did. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Limeybastard said:
Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Roms have come a long way since Note 3 lol. Not try sound like a smart AO to you. But when was last time used a Rom? Bro for example Res remix is breathtaking with the features. My last phone had that Rom. Made stock look like a welfare case.
Not going to lie Samsung does have best stock IMO out of other stock androids.
Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?
pretty sure all US variants will get a s9 with a locked down, just like the S8 and S7.
Reminds me of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/galaxy-s8-unlocked-s-bootloader-t3563973
Yup there was a similar thread for te Note 8 also. Probably just another case of confusion of sim unlock vs unlock bootloader. Most consumers don't even know what a bootloader is. It's not likely that Samsung will train low level reps about bootloaders, there's no reason to. When a rep hears unlocked they probably refer to sim lock. Many low level reps probably don't know what bootloaders are either.
kevinrocksman said:
Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?
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You must be new here, welcome to xda...
peachpuff said:
You must be new here, welcome to xda...
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I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9
Why would she "highly recommend against it" if she was just talking about a sim unlock though. Not saying I think it's unlockable or believe what she says.
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Look, can we just take a second to remember that the Samsung reps have NO F-ING CLUE what they're talking about? When I had issues with my Note 5, they recommended I take off the back and pull the battery to get it to reboot.
So... Yeah. Don't get your hopes up here.
Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
kevinrocksman said:
I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9
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The odds that this lady knows what a bootloader is is slim to none, when you said unlocked bootloader she probably thought of the phone being carrier unlocked. We've been through this a few times and its always locked on snapdragon phones.
TheMadScientist said:
Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
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That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.
kevinrocksman said:
That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.
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Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.
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Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
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peachpuff said:
Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.
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Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then
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Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then
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Exynos is the answer
peachpuff said:
Exynos is the answer
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Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.
kevinrocksman said:
Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.
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You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.
nrage23 said:
You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.
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why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.
kevinrocksman said:
why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.
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It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887
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It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887
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are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9
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are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9
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The first link is from June of last year so it does not matter. The quote you miss from Anandtech.
"Indeed the Exynos 9810’s new modem supports CDMA. Samsung’s licensing dispute with Qualcomm and their recent reconciliation points out to issues beyond “simple” technical matters."
Even if it has the radios it cannot use them in the US without paying Qualcomm. Hence the reason they only sell the Snapdragon model in the US.
Is there a point to rooting the snapdragon versions? I can only find 1 rom for it and I don't really see any benefit to doing it does anyone have advice on why they do it? Or what can be done with it?
Veid71 said:
Is there a point to rooting the snapdragon versions? I can only find 1 rom for it and I don't really see any benefit to doing it does anyone have advice on why they do it? Or what can be done with it?
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As of a couple years ago the OS got mature enough (ie., not buggy) and the phones so much faster - really no need,!
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Well, the people that root their devices, do it because they need it to especifically get/acquire the possibility to mod or install something they want, if you dont need something that requires root, I dont think you should root
winol said:
Well, the people that root their devices, do it because they need it to especifically get/acquire the possibility to mod or install something they want, if you dont need something that requires root, I dont think you should root
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typically i root for the ability to install xposed and mods but i dont see too many mods here that couldnt be installed w/o root and there arent any roms for snapdragon for some reason i was just wondering if theres anything in specific that i could do with the rooted phone that i couldnt with a non rooted one?
Saafir said:
Boot loader is locked. That is why us with SD devices get boned.
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i know lol it really sucks. if i knew how to make roms i would be helping add to the development but i dont :/ does anyone know why qualcom and snapdragon do their damndest to lock BL and block root?
Qualcom does not release their source codes, that is why
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Well, the people that root their devices, do it because they need it to especifically get/acquire the possibility to mod or install something they want, if you dont need something that requires root, I dont think you should root
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winol said:
Qualcom does not release their source codes, that is why
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is that to lessen competition/protect company secrets or is it strictly to stop people from rooting?
winol said:
Qualcom does not release their source codes, that is why
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is that to lessen competition/protect company secrets or is it strictly to stop people from rooting?
Saafir said:
It's nothing to do with Qualcomn or Samsung. It's all carrier sided. Pay off your phone and they will unlock bootloader. Until then, gg
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I bought the unlocked version and paid it all off, if I call Sprint they will unlock the bootloader???
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It's nothing to do with Qualcomn or Samsung. It's all carrier sided. Pay off your phone and they will unlock bootloader. Until then, gg
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No, they won't. They will carrier unlock it, but we can already do that.
If you think you need to root so desperately, then either buy an Exnos version, buy a Pixel, or a One plus, but whining on XDA about BL lock snapdragon Samsung phones is like peeing into the wind..nothing will come of it, except your face will get wet..
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If you think you need to root so desperately, then either buy an Exnos version, buy a Pixel, or a One plus, but whining on XDA about BL lock snapdragon Samsung phones is like peeing into the wind..nothing will come of it, except your face will get wet..
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Exactly
wase4711 said:
If you think you need to root so desperately, then either buy an Exnos version, buy a Pixel, or a One plus, but whining on XDA about BL lock snapdragon Samsung phones is like peeing into the wind..nothing will come of it, except your face will get wet..
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I'm not whining about it xD I'm asking what's possible to do with it, and I did buy an exynos version but exynos doesn't work on sprints network because they're only designed for gsm bands and not cdma, one plus screen is kinda terrible and that's a big thing for me and I have a pixel but with the pixel 3 coming out so soon it's kind of pointless to get a 2
so, you've basically answered your own question; the note 8, on your carrier, can't be effectively rooted to do what you want it to
Sell it on swappa
Saafir said:
It's nothing to do with Qualcomn or Samsung. It's all carrier sided. Pay off your phone and they will unlock bootloader. Until then, gg
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LOL...UMM, No Sir, carriers cannot unlock your bootloader of the Note 8. You are thinking of Carrier Unlocking.
Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?
S4IK0S4N said:
Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?
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All USA models are bootloader locked.
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Limeybastard said:
All USA models are bootloader locked.
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Probably stay that way...
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Probably stay that way...
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Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !
Raz12 said:
Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !
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Well yes but or isn't looking to bright. Idk if I will root it if it ever comes.
Raz12 said:
Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !
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No, it will NEVER happen.
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Well yes but or isn't looking to bright. Idk if I will root it if it ever comes.
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Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
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No, it will NEVER happen.
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Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance
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Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance
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Talking about BL unlock.
Raz12 said:
Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance
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I thought the root was a partial root and not a full blown one?
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Talking about BL unlock.
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ohhh lol yeah you might be right about that one. BL hasn't been unlocked for a LONG TIME.
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I thought the root was a partial root and not a full blown one?
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i mean it rooted and stayed on root, even when you shut it down. It never went away unless you go back to stock
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Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?
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samsung or any carrier will ever advertise a phone as being unlocked other than meaning sim/region. you screwed your self in thinking it meant bootloader.
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
bober10113 said:
i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.
Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL
Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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kgptzac said:
I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.