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Unlocked S5?

So, I am wanting to get the S5, but I am tired of all the AT7T bloatware that comes on these phones. Plus, being in the military, prefer unlocked phones. So, what are my choices here. Where can I get an unlocked S5 that will fully work on the AT7T network?

dustintinsley said:
So, I am wanting to get the S5, but I am tired of all the AT7T bloatware that comes on these phones. Plus, being in the military, prefer unlocked phones. So, what are my choices here. Where can I get an unlocked S5 that will fully work on the AT7T network?
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The closest you could get is a TMO branded S5 which ships BL Unlocked (at least initial shipments) a few bands may not work though depending on the TMO radio. Also you would need to sim unlock the TMO S5 and buy it outright which I believe is 660.

djkinetic said:
The closest you could get is a TMO branded S5 which ships BL Unlocked (at least initial shipments) a few bands may not work though depending on the TMO radio. Also you would need to sim unlock the TMO S5 and buy it outright which I believe is 660.
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I was wondering about that. Heard the TMO boot loader is unlocked. Just wasn't sure all bands would work on AT&T.

Att LTE should work hspa+ not sure I haven't looked at tmo specs at length
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Just called Tmobile, and the phones do not come unlocked if I buy at full price? How would I unlock it so it would work with AT&T?

dustintinsley said:
Just called Tmobile, and the phones do not come unlocked if I buy at full price? How would I unlock it so it would work with AT&T?
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pay a third party site, I've always used cellunlocker.net

djkinetic said:
pay a third party site, I've always used cellunlocker.net
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can i just go into a tmobile store a buy a s5 at full price if i do not have service with them?

dustintinsley said:
can i just go into a tmobile store a buy a s5 at full price if i do not have service with them?
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yes just say you want to buy it out right with no plan....you might get a rep who doesnt want to sell it though since they get commission on activations...if so just goto another store.

will give it a try tomorrow. thanks.

djkinetic said:
yes just say you want to buy it out right with no plan....you might get a rep who doesnt want to sell it though since they get commission on activations...if so just goto another store.
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looking on the site you gave me, it stated that all samsung devices would need to be activated on original carrier first or the phone would be region locked. is this correct?

dustintinsley said:
looking on the site you gave me, it stated that all samsung devices would need to be activated on original carrier first or the phone would be region locked. is this correct?
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ack im not sure, i thought that was a European specific thing, if anything find a friend that has Tmo and stick their sim in it when u get the phone. then unlock it.

djkinetic said:
ack im not sure, i thought that was a European specific thing, if anything find a friend that has Tmo and stick their sim in it when u get the phone. then unlock it.
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Samsung has gone "full retard" with their region locking on the S5
http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-region-locking/

osetivo said:
Samsung has gone "full retard" with their region locking on the S5
http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-region-locking/
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Makes no mention of NA Regions though, and the ATT Box doesnt have the sticker on it.

djkinetic said:
Makes no mention of NA Regions though, and the ATT Box doesnt have the sticker on it.
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Ah, yes, it's my American perspective, as I would like to import, but Samsung is trying to stop such behavior.

osetivo said:
Ah, yes, it's my American perspective, as I would like to import, but Samsung is trying to stop such behavior.
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The expectation is that all American models are region-locked as well. Here is an example of a N. America model with the region-lock warning on it: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s5-region-lock-367402/
FYI, I bought an AT&T S5, unlocked it and am using it now on Straight Talk and with other local SIMs as I travel. Check out my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714535

US Unlocked Model SM-N960U1

Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?

S4IK0S4N said:
Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?
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All USA models are bootloader locked.
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Limeybastard said:
All USA models are bootloader locked.
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Probably stay that way...

badger101 said:
Probably stay that way...
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Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !

Raz12 said:
Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !
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Well yes but or isn't looking to bright. Idk if I will root it if it ever comes.

Raz12 said:
Come on bro don't say that lol. Anything is possible !
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No, it will NEVER happen.

badger101 said:
Well yes but or isn't looking to bright. Idk if I will root it if it ever comes.
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Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
suzook said:
No, it will NEVER happen.
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Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance

Raz12 said:
Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance
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Talking about BL unlock.

Raz12 said:
Right man definitely depends on what you want. I've rooted every phone I had. They all have been USA, thanks to the devs here.
Not so sure about that, people say that all the time but then in the upcoming months root happens. The note 8 got root. And so did the other varients. So why wouldn't this one? Just gotta have faith, this phone is popular and I'm sure alot of people will be on this phone. It just dropped on Friday! Give it a chance
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I thought the root was a partial root and not a full blown one?

suzook said:
Talking about BL unlock.
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ohhh lol yeah you might be right about that one. BL hasn't been unlocked for a LONG TIME.
badger101 said:
I thought the root was a partial root and not a full blown one?
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i mean it rooted and stayed on root, even when you shut it down. It never went away unless you go back to stock

S4IK0S4N said:
Hello, first post here. I usually just lurk. I recently bought the US Unlocked version of the note 9, model SM-N960U1. I see posts about only the Exonys units being the only ones with unlocked bootloaders. Will the carrier unlocked Snapdragon model have a locked bootloader?
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samsung or any carrier will ever advertise a phone as being unlocked other than meaning sim/region. you screwed your self in thinking it meant bootloader.

SM-N960W

Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..

You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?

AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.

AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.

Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days

Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features

bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks

bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.

Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams

bober10113 said:
i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.

Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though

elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL

Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked

Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.

Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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kgptzac said:
I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.

DAGr8 said:
Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.

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B1itzy said:
I currently have an S10 with a Snapdragon processor. Therefore I can not turn on OEM Unlocking.
Is there anyway I can root my Samsung without OEM Unlocking?
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As of now no and unless something changes in the future probably not. Its the reason I personally went out of my way to buy an exynos model.

Joe333x said:
As of now no and unless something changes in the future probably not. Its the reason I personally went out of my way to buy an exynos model.
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Is this still the case? I got this phone as a free hand me down since i owe sprint a f*ck ton and can't use my roote V40...

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Is this still the case? I got this phone as a free hand me down since i owe sprint a f*ck ton and can't use my roote V40...
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Yeah unfortunately US snapdragons never seen root anymore, u need to buy an exynos version. I always research if a device can be rooted before buying.

Rooting Verizon Pixel 5

I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.

i4m5up3rm4n said:
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
joshspicer.com
It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry

xunholyx said:
You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.

you need to unlock the bootloader to use magisk v22+

Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.

ProjectAlly said:
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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That could be slightly deceiving. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked that's it. It does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. So technically you would need an unlockable bootloader device not merely an unlocked phone. You can buy an unlocked Verizon phone with no way of unlocking the bl as witnessed by the OP.

True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.

i4m5up3rm4n said:
Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
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no

ProjectAlly said:
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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It wasn't really meant to be critical of you, I'm sure you know all that. I've just seen too many horror stories of buying an unlocked device and not being able to bl unlock due to restrictions the carriers put on. Some have been lucky and paid off the device, begged tech support to allow bl unlock and succeeded in that request. And then there are those devices that are carrier unlocked and will never be bl unlocked like the Verizon models. So as you say, ask questions and make sure you know exactly what you are buying.

xunholyx said:
You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.

JCBiznatch said:
Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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You can't just say that with no proof and think anyone will take it seriously. So prove it, we're all ears.

Hell, if that were true, I would ONLY buy Verizon phones

JCBiznatch said:
Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Provide instructions then. You just saying it can be done without providing them is a moot comment.

JCBiznatch said:
Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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JCBiznatch said:
Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.

l7777 said:
Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update. You can think this and that is impossible, but you are sadly wrong. You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!

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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
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You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".

It's sad how things like this can become so twisted and turned and convoluted. It doesn't do any good does it? None that I can see.
I'm guessing, but anyone talking about a vzw being unlockable is probably referring to someone who got a vzw 'in the box', unopened and never activated.
I just got a pix3 in that condition, and yes, remove vzw sim, boot up minimal except connect wifi, enable dev and turn on oem unlock... it does work.
But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
cheers

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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.

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But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
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Nothing about that statement is correct, sorry. It's been proved time and time again.

JCBiznatch said:
If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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What's your definition of "hack"?
If you really can do this, why don't you offer to do it for people? I'm sure more than a few would be happy to throw you some $$ to get their Verizon devices unlocked. I did this back in the days of the HTC devices when a Java card was the only bootloader unlock method. You'd also get less blowback than effectively saying "Nah nah I know how to do this but I'm not going to tell you."