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Unlocked bootloader

Hi All,
Can someone PLEASE explain me howcome the Exynos variant's bootloader is unlockable while his Snapdragon counterpart is not? was it made in purpose from Samsung's side?
Is this bootloader unlocking of the Snapdragon variant is "dead end" 100% and he who wants custom recovery (TWRP) on Note 8 should obtain ONLY the Exynos variant ?
Thank you very much

Yes its dead it wont happen

pbedard said:
Yes its dead it wont happen
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Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?

I'm changing to htc

rpz79 said:
Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
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So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?

myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.

rpz79 said:
Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Yeah that's the best thing you could do. Honestly rooting and roms dien breed unfortunately. It hurts me to say that I am a die hard fan of it. I knew my model didn't have the best for root before I bought. Phone has the most sought after features.
I mean look at apple even copying a lot of samsung. That says something. I got my model because my carrier offered a more affordable payment plan then samsung. Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.

Nick216ohio said:
Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....

ultramag69 said:
Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.

Nick216ohio said:
Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...

ultramag69 said:
Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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That is definitely true. I remember having galaxy 1,2,3 and it was Rom heaven. I don't see One Plus going that route though. They started from the gate with Rom openness and listening.
I definitely think it's wrong how all the big phone makers turned there back on Rom community. Most of the great features phones have now days is because of developers. Then constraint that wtf?

No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?

Im happy without root. Since we can do so many tweaks woth ADB and we also have apps. Like disconnet pro or adhell which only works on samsung phones to remove ads on apps. (Hate those vpn software like blokada adguard etc). Other things like getting spotify apps free ads. Youtube app free ads can all be found here if u look for it. Not sure why i would need root now.

rpz79 said:
No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
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Has a lot to do with Carriers and Manufacturers.
Greed-
Choking innovation-
Little bit of security-
They know Roms can prolong the life of a phone and have features that the next device has. Of course they want you to buy over priced products every year.
Basically Androids turning into Apple. Google this if you will. Apple charges $1k for iphone x, yet only costs them $357 to make. That's incredible greedy returns.
Most of us at XDA know all this, but what can we do? We just say screw it and buy atleast the best android phone. You want root/rom? Stick to international/manufactured versions. Also make sure that international version has bootloader Unlock. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.

Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?

Nick216ohio said:
Stick to international/manufactured versions. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.

Limeybastard said:
Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
rpz79 said:
I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Gotta find which version is bootloader unlocked 1st. Because you get screwed like you did. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.

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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Limeybastard said:
Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Roms have come a long way since Note 3 lol. Not try sound like a smart AO to you. But when was last time used a Rom? Bro for example Res remix is breathtaking with the features. My last phone had that Rom. Made stock look like a welfare case.
Not going to lie Samsung does have best stock IMO out of other stock androids.

Unlockable Snapdragon proccessor

Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?

pretty sure all US variants will get a s9 with a locked down, just like the S8 and S7.

Reminds me of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/galaxy-s8-unlocked-s-bootloader-t3563973

Yup there was a similar thread for te Note 8 also. Probably just another case of confusion of sim unlock vs unlock bootloader. Most consumers don't even know what a bootloader is. It's not likely that Samsung will train low level reps about bootloaders, there's no reason to. When a rep hears unlocked they probably refer to sim lock. Many low level reps probably don't know what bootloaders are either.

kevinrocksman said:
Now I take everything samsung says with a grain of salt and some hot sauce but the lady I just talked to (I recorded it) said that the snapdragon verizon s9+ had a unlockable bootloader (but she highly recommended against it). Has anyone else called samsung and asked them?
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You must be new here, welcome to xda...

peachpuff said:
You must be new here, welcome to xda...
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I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9

Why would she "highly recommend against it" if she was just talking about a sim unlock though. Not saying I think it's unlockable or believe what she says.
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Look, can we just take a second to remember that the Samsung reps have NO F-ING CLUE what they're talking about? When I had issues with my Note 5, they recommended I take off the back and pull the battery to get it to reboot.
So... Yeah. Don't get your hopes up here.

Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others

kevinrocksman said:
I use to be a RC... that is until samsung started locking thier stuff down. I'm hoping that what the lady said was right.. if not then I might go with the zx2, only issue is it doesnt have 4k @60fps. Irritates me they turned off 4k hdr on the s9
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The odds that this lady knows what a bootloader is is slim to none, when you said unlocked bootloader she probably thought of the phone being carrier unlocked. We've been through this a few times and its always locked on snapdragon phones.

TheMadScientist said:
Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
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That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.

kevinrocksman said:
That's what I thought but when she said "this will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader", that's what makes me wonder.
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Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.

TheMadScientist said:
Yes more than likely the woman confused bootloader with sim unlock
There is no way sammy is going to unlock the bl on the snap...
I miss how they at least used to make developer editions at least for verizon and several others
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peachpuff said:
Just stop wondering, it'll be easier, assume its locked.
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Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then

kevinrocksman said:
Makes me wonder what the point of buying another Samsung is then
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Exynos is the answer

peachpuff said:
Exynos is the answer
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Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.

kevinrocksman said:
Question is where do I get it and will it work in the US on verizon.
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You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.

nrage23 said:
You can order one and get it shipped to the US but you will not get it to work on Verizon.
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why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.

kevinrocksman said:
why wouldn't it work on version? From what I read the exynos version is capable of the same radio band Verizon uses.
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It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887

nrage23 said:
It has no CDMA bands so it will not work on Verizon.
http://www.phonemore.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-sm-g965f/specs/3887
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are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9

kevinrocksman said:
are you sure?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/rumor-galaxy-s9-feature-exynos-9810-cdma-support.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12460/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s9
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The first link is from June of last year so it does not matter. The quote you miss from Anandtech.
"Indeed the Exynos 9810’s new modem supports CDMA. Samsung’s licensing dispute with Qualcomm and their recent reconciliation points out to issues beyond “simple” technical matters."
Even if it has the radios it cannot use them in the US without paying Qualcomm. Hence the reason they only sell the Snapdragon model in the US.

How do I unlock the OEM on the SM-N960U T-MOBILE Samsung Galaxy note 9?

I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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Return it, and buy an unlockable device.

If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.

j101399j said:
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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I got it from T-Mobile

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model

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If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock

TechOut said:
He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
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My mistake, thank you for clarifying.

TechOut said:
You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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Is that just for now or a certainty?

quantum88 said:
Is that just for now or a certainty.
Well it didnt happen on the s9 that i know of so.....
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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force70 said:
quantum88 said:
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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Your BL is locked, there is nothing for you to gain be enabling OEM unlock. The people with unlockable devices have to enable OEM to flash twrp...you cannot therefore it is pointless.
Well at least in my point of view, why do you want to enable it?
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t mobile sm-n960u unlock ???
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available

The simple answer is that you can't unlock the bootloader on the US market phone. You haven't been able to do so since the Galaxy S7. I think it likely has a lot to do with KNOX integration for security reasons. The complicated answer is that there were ways to root the S7 by flashing a developer bootloader (engboot or something like that). The catch is that while you could root it, the phone would run like crap, overheat, bad battery life, etc. Some claimed to have decent success with it though. Likely something similar will happen with the Note 9 as well as. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked, meaning you can activate it on any supported carrier. It has nothing to do with the bootloader.
Long story short, no, you can't unlock the bootloader, no, you can't flash twrp, and you'll find actual development for the US market phone to be essentially non-existent. If that is important to you, return this phone. Coming from rooting and flashing all of my phones prior to the S7, I honestly don't miss it. IMO, there's nothing to be gained, and it's a huge time suck. Life is too short and I'm too busy to spend an evening setting things up for the 5th time, troubleshooting battery life issues, etc. Not to mention that my job related security apps aren't going to work on a rooted phone.
Now, as far as "junk apps" not sure what you mean. These phones are now pretty clean actually, and most things can be uninstalled or disabled from within stock android. And as I found out many times in the past, if something is unable to be disabled, it's probably for good reason.
As far as ads, also not sure what you mean. Web browser ads can be blocked through extensions that Samsung browser supports. In app ads can be eliminated by paying for the app. Really, if you can't afford $3 for an app that you frequently use, I'd question how you can afford a $1000 phone.

MerlinTT said:
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
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That's incorrect. The unlocked version is fully compatible with T-Mobile.
MerlinTT said:
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
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Samsung has been locking bootloaders since the S7? It's been a few years. Even when someone found a way to beat it, it was severely limiting to your device. You said you're not new here. This is pretty common knowledge with Samsung devices.
MerlinTT said:
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
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Uh, what ads? That's not a samsung thing, I think you just installed some ****ty apps.
MerlinTT said:
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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Hoooo boy. You might want to look into HTC phones before you buy one.
MerlinTT said:
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
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Yes. And they've been working on the S9 too, which still can't be beaten. And a proper way to unlock the S8, without limiting your battery to 80%.
And why exactly is T-Mobile "junk"? Maybe you need a different carrier.

I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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If a color is challenging your sexuality, you have deeper problems than an unrootable phone.

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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I think your problems go well beyond the color of your boot screen. Seek help. The kind of help you need we're not qualified to provide here. How often do you see the boot logo screen anyway?

MerlinTT said:
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
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There are two types of "unlocked": carrier and bootloader. BestBuy meant carrier unlocked, or the N960U1. The hardware is equivalent to the carrier version (N960U; there's only one model now for all the carriers), and the only software difference is that it doesn't come with the carrier bloat. Same hardware and firmware means it supports B71. However, it cannot be bootloader unlocked.
You have two options if you want a bootloader unlock: the N9600 or the N960F. Neither supports B71, but both do support B66. Remember, B71 isn't all that important yet. It's only been rolled out in a few places and TMO is concentrating more on 5G right now.
The N960F has a mod you can flash to enable TMO WiFi Calling and VoLTE and the other carrier features. I'm running it now and it works fine. It did sort of convert my phone to a Chinese variant, which meant I was stuck with the super aggressive Smart Manager instead of Device Manager, but I modified it to let me use Device Manager again. I might be posting the modified version if I can get permission.
The fact is that, yes, Samsung kind of beat the rooters. However, anyone who really wants to root usually just gets the F or 0 variant, and those who can live without make do with the plethora of non-root tweaks. There are actually quite a few adblockers and package disablers designed for TouchWiz that work without root, such as DNS66 or notSABS.
I don't know anything about flashing modified TouchWiz ROMs on the U variant, but it might be possible. It won't have root though.
Really, if you want a rootable Samsung, go with the N960F. You can get it on Amazon new with Prime for under $900 (without Prime it's $800). It has TWRP and Magisk works fine. If you want WFC PM me so I can share my modified mod (heh). I'll also be working on a set of other miscellaneous modifications to TouchWiz.

SM-N960U
So in old slow world of us phone dummies that try to keep up with all the brain power that this site has been good for in unlocking phones over the years, oh ya and when you all talk that doctors language and write it
to where us dummies have to read and reread over and over again and again to unlock are phones after you all figured it out!!
So what you are saying in the current Samsung world rooting is a thing of the past! Samsung won the hacking war!!! and us pe-ons are mostly stuck with carrier banded phones or unlocked that loses carrier bands and options!
Unless we pay some merc to kidnap you and have some doctor transfer your brain power into are brains so we have the brain power to hack and mod are locked phones then if we are kind have that brain power transferred back to your brains!!!!
I should have stayed with my note 4
oh ya my man hood is just fine they hang lower then yours but that happens with old age how low??
it is great with the younger ladies big is a big deal today
like older ladies with big you know what age affects them to and the younger guys can not stop looking
just do not like pink
Grumpy

SM-N960W

Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..

You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?

AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.

AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.

Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days

Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features

bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks

bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.

Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams

bober10113 said:
i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.

Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.

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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though

elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL

Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked

Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.

Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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kgptzac said:
I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.

DAGr8 said:
Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.

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B1itzy said:
I currently have an S10 with a Snapdragon processor. Therefore I can not turn on OEM Unlocking.
Is there anyway I can root my Samsung without OEM Unlocking?
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As of now no and unless something changes in the future probably not. Its the reason I personally went out of my way to buy an exynos model.

Joe333x said:
As of now no and unless something changes in the future probably not. Its the reason I personally went out of my way to buy an exynos model.
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Is this still the case? I got this phone as a free hand me down since i owe sprint a f*ck ton and can't use my roote V40...

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Is this still the case? I got this phone as a free hand me down since i owe sprint a f*ck ton and can't use my roote V40...
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Yeah unfortunately US snapdragons never seen root anymore, u need to buy an exynos version. I always research if a device can be rooted before buying.