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Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock
Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.
You can add lock to the home screen
first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard
Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.
nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.
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When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
rzanology said:
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
JonRick said:
Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike
hard reset and try again.
i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.
well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
dscline said:
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.
So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks
I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.
I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419
Hi, I cleaned the screen of my HTC Diamond with a bit of alcohol and a pice of tissue and it seems that the alcohol got inside of the Power button. Now, every time I try to turn the screen on by touching the power button, it turns the screen on but it dispays a message that says: "Warning: Power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?"
If I click YES, it reboots the phone, If I click NO, then its ok. That is fine, but the problem is when I want to turn the phone off. It's impossible. It will keep trying to reboot.
Does anybody know what can I do? I am really worried.
One solution could be to make some other button from the phone to act as the power button (like the Home button that is rarely used). How can I do that?
Please help!!!!
Thank you
Hi,
I have the same problem.
Did you already find an answer ?
No, I didnt find the solution. I tried to fix the hardware but didnt succeed. So, I created a dummy file to emulate the poweroffwarning.exe that pops up when you long press the power button.
Solution
Hello, I have one AT&T TITL 8925 that upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.5
After the new software was loaded I saw same behavior on my phone.
When the phone is ON and I pressed the power button sometimes it do not respond, and others I received the warning message "power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them..." My first tought was that it is because the processor is slow to this new software release, or maybe my phone is damaged. I was working perfectly with previous (light version) release so my final guess is that this sw requires more uses of the processos.
Anyways what I have been doing is before turing it off I press the red button or hang up button, and after this if I press the power button it works fine (No more warnings). I have some theories but I will keep doing the same
Hope this partial solution helps you as it does for me.
Regards
Jerry
this is not working for me :| the problem is i can't use my power button not even to open my display when it goes to sleep :|:| i don't know what to do guys please help me
You can use the Stylus to awake the phone, instead of using the power button. You can also use TouchLockPro, to suspend the device, so you do not need the power button for that too.
Also you can set the phone to awake on pressing any key (Windows Mobile Setting), but be sure to have a good locking tool, which makes sure you do not have bogus calls and it goes to sleep again fast enough, otherwise it will drain battery.
I have the same problem.
Anyone solved this one?
I have the same issue and this is not a hardware problem. Strange since even updates/changes of the rom do not correct the issue. Did anybody find a solution for this...?
Well.. ive had this problem just ones.. I was walking downtown with my diamond in the frontpocket of my jeans (face down), after about 3min. of walk, it started to rain (big drops), and my clothes got completely wet, i turned around emidietly, to walk back to home. When i got home after 3 more min. i layed the phone on the table, and then i could hear there were somethibg wrong.. The "turn off" sound came, and the notification kept on coming up, even though i pressed No, as if i were just holding the power button down.. Then i began to press the power button continuesly for about a 100 times, and to my surprise then it stopped and have functioned perfectly for about 2 month now.. Something tells me theres some serius promlem with the smallest kind of moisture near the power button on this phone..
Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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Hi! on one of my diamond, the power button off from the board. So the black little board with the button itself is not part of the complete circuit anymore... if someone know the hw testpoint for that it would great please.... i see a few TP around, but if i just start sorting them i just going to kill it...I use to flash phones with TP so is not new for me , but i find nothing for diamond.
I have a similar issue. Mine seems like it is almost stuck on, so it wakes its self up all the time, meaning a full charge lasts an hour or two. Then when it runs out of battery it tries to switch itself back on, so goes through a continuous cycle of vibrating and beeping until the battery is removed. The gf finds it very annoying at 3am lol.
Don't recall mine getting wet, but it's possible it could have got damp at some point, but it's been doing this now for about 3 weeks.
Tried a hard reset with no luck.
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Yes this is hardware related.
If you take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button.
If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "Do you want to turn off your device" message.
But, if water gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
In this way you'll get that message.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
I think that could also be a reason why you constantly get that message.
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I can see that how to remove the power button from the video showing how to replace the screen. Any idea if once removed the button can be fixed, if not can you get replacements?
2004mark said:
I can see that how to remove the power button from the video showing how to replace the screen. Any idea if once removed the button can be fixed, if not can you get replacements?
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I think I should send it to HTC, and ask them to do it. Or go to a repair centre. But I should not try it myself, because it can be dangerous for the diamond.
Also try searching on ebay, there might be the parts you could use.
Good luck!
is there a way to remap the power button?
my diamond face same problem since this afternoon, arrrrgghhhh!!!
- blocking hwbutton1, hwbutton2, hwbutton3, hwbutton4, hwbutton5, hwbutton6, hwbutton7 >>>> NO LUCK
- hard reset >>> NO LUCK
guys, any of you solved the problem yet
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SEQ6AUFOI
My Sony X1 have some strange problems with the power button. When it goes into sleep mode, I can not wake it up with the power button, all I can do is to soft reset. Sometimes it does not go into sleep mode either , it just "wake up" all the time. I don't know what's wrong with it, tried Hard reset but no use .
ANyone had this problems before?
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The only way to solve this is to leave the phone near your laptop heat vent ( fan) . hot air from it might help you to get the power button up and running. But if that to doesn't work then i'm afraid thats bad.
Current sol :
1. download SU2U ( search threads )
2. go to the settings and make the " lock when stylus inserted" option ON
3. Change the screen turn off time to 5 secs..
So , to unlock , remove stylus , to lock -> insert it back ( its turns off the back light within 5 sec )
Less annoying
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thanks for this link, i accidentally tear off my power button flex. now i could turn it on again. Thanks elektros
Hi there. I often pull out my battery or just remove my SIM chip when the phone is on. Not because I like causing harm to my phone, but because my soft reset button doesnt work. I think its jammed because I tried with a stylus and a lead pencil.
So two questions:
(1) Is there an alternate way to soft reset, i.e reassign to another button?
(2) How bad is it to stop the kaiser randomly while its on by pulling out the battery/SIM card?
why aren't you using the power button to turn it off? (long press)
carpediem said:
Hi there. I often pull out my battery or just remove my SIM chip when the phone is on. Not because I like causing harm to my phone, but because my soft reset button doesnt work. I think its jammed because I tried with a stylus and a lead pencil.
So two questions:
(1) Is there an alternate way to soft reset, i.e reassign to another button?
(2) How bad is it to stop the kaiser randomly while its on by pulling out the battery/SIM card?
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1. There are soft reset applications. L26 M2D rom has one built in. I don't know where you'd get it, but I bet searching will yield results.
2.When you pop the sim holder, your phone should shut off regardless. I've never noticed any adverse reactions to ganking the battery, but I'm not willing to bet anything on it. I'd avoid it. Take the advice of the previous poster or get the SoftReset application.
Hy,
the program "spb pocket plus" has a warm start icon, may this helps....
Get it here - Raiisak's Cabs Corner - 2nd one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398050
next time also use SEARCH
my bad, I should've mentioned that I do this when the phone hangs or the menus/shortcuts (such as Raiisak`s Soft Reset) are inaccessible. Even holding down the power button does not work.
I agree that by re-installing to a different ROM (I am always experimenting with new ones) there will be less freezes , but sometimes soft-resets have to be done.
Although I don't think that yanking the battery out will destroy the device, it could have the potential to corrupt files in use, so don't do it unless you have to, and you should probably try to find a more permanent solution.
Dave
just another one, i change sim cards quite frequently, does opening the sim door do a proper shutdown i.e., close all open files? ive not had any probs so far. i dont always remember to hold the power button
Hi guys,
I've been trying without succeeding to make it that they phone locks when I put the phone into sleep mode (short tap of power button).
I used the SPB mobile shell so I've tried mapping either the left or right softkey to applications such as "LockAndOff" and "DeviceLock" however as soon as I navigate around on SPB, the soft keys revert to the SPB defaults. I've also tried "Advanced Config" to do the same but somehow SPB over-rode the settings.
I was using Slide2Unlock for a while, which did exactly what I wanted it to do apart from it wasn't very stable on my X1 and I occasionally has issues answering the phone or waking it up from sleeping, so I've now removed it.
How can I either:
a) Keep SPB from re-mapping the soft keys - so that I can assign one of the keys to one of the programs I've got
b) Remap the power button to run one of these programs at a short touch
c) Improve the stabiliy of S2U - does anyone else have this problem.
Plz let me knpw,
Si
***BUMP***
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hello,
I've tried searching for an answer on this, but no sucess until now.
My Diamond 2 turns on its screen when it looses and get radio signal back. That is a good feature but the annoying thing is if I enter in a lift with the cell phone in my pocket, it will loose signal, turn screen on and the contact with my pocket will give it "crazy" commands that will mess it up or even call someone.
Is there a way (maybe via Registry Editing) to force it to never turn on the screen unless I press the power button? At least, an option to do nothing in case of signal loss?
Thank you.
Robert
I've just done a few experiements and if I lose signal and it returns, nothing happens. However, perhaps it would help you if you get into the habit of locking your phone before you press power. To do this hold the home button down for a second or so. The phone will buzz and it'll be locked.
Thank you. That's what I will do whenever I put the phone in my pocket. It is still not the best solution, even because I use my D2 to receive emails from work so I am forced to type a password to unlock it after sliding to unlock.
I know there is a Registry key to auto lock, but I prefer doing that manually as you said.
Which ROM are you using? In both original HTC English and now TOM's 2.02.1 it always turn screen on when looses and get signal back.
Thanks.
I'm using the original HTC. I've tried it again, I go to a place where I know I'll lose signal, wait until it does, then press power off. I go back into signal and nothing happens on the device. Only when I press power on does it come back on and show that I have signal. If I do it the other way, press off before I go out of signal, then the behaviour is the same (though I have to just wait and assume signal has been lost, since I can't see it!). Is it perhaps that the phone is set to light up when it receives a certain bit of data (such as a push email), which it's more prone to getting when it comes back into signal? Incidentally, it's 'lose', not 'loose'
I get similar behaviour after setting the phone to stream internet radio and then turning it off and putting in my pocket. Sometimes, after signal loss, I get it out and notice it's turned on and random things have happened due to screen contact.
Funny thing is, I've tried locking the phone too, and exactly the same thing happens. what's the point of a phone lock if it doesn't (lock)!
I've not associated it with a particular event except signal loss. But, when it's not lost the signal, I don't take it out of my pocket, so perhaps it's happening other times without me noticing.
Anybody with an idea to completely lock the phone will be my hero.
And, whilst we're on the subject of annoying traits, is there a way to get rid of the wretched WM "cannot connect with current settings" dialogue which appears after a few failed attempts to reconnect to a 3G network? I find this *really* annoying when all it takes is a few more attempts...
Hi
When the signal is lost or regained the phone is triggered to turn on, but in "unattended" mode. The phone will be on and applications will run however unattended mode is just that, and so no user input is accepted and the screen is not turned on, and the owner will have no idea the phone has switched on. After a short period of time the phone will enter sleep again. In fact many times a day the phone will be turning on in unattended mode without you knowing for one reason or another.
The problem with the phone awaking fully is going to be due to an application or feature you are using. The application will start running when the phone enters unattended mode and is for some reason raising the power state to fully on, this is due to bad programming as it isn't suppose to do this unless it has an alert and needs to show the screen and wait for a response, even then it should give the option for this to be disabled.
Incidently a lot battery problems where the battery doesn't seem to last very long can be due to applications keeping the phone running in unattended mode, so while the phone looks off the processor is still on allowing applications to run, this very quickly drains the battery.
You need to find the application causing the problem then get in touch with the author.
Regards
Phil
Thanks for that, Phil. Understanding is the first step to sorting a problem out. I wasn't aware there was an "inbetween" state.