I have just got a Rikaline 6010 GPS unit, and make a cable that go's from the Ps/2 Connector to the XDA connector.. the GPS powers on, but Tomtom doesn't appear to be getting any data, on the GPS screen the little Satellite - - - PDA area is not showing any data being sent/received.
The PDA works fine, as I have it hooked up to my Digitraveler (Rikaline is for my dad)
I have tried selecting TomTom GPS Receiver, Rikaline 6010, NMEA 4800 from the GPS menu but none of them work
Rikaline have the Pinout in their manual: http://www.rikaline.com/download/GPS-6010-Manual-E.pdf
I have the RS232 TX & RX connected to Pin 8 & 10 on the XDA connector.
GND is on Pin 5 of the XDA connector, and +5 is taken from cigarette lighter.
Is this correct ?
Should I be using the TTL connections instead ? where would they go on the XDA ?
Many Thanks
Neil
Have you tried reversing the tx/rx connections, worth a try? How are you powering the gps?
GPS is being powered from ciggy lighter in the car, I've just made a PC cable and tried using some diagnostic software to read the raw data from the GPS and nothing
I think the unit may be knackered...
Well..... what do ya know! I thought what the hell.. i'll swap the data leads round and see if it makes any difference even though both cables were wired EXACTLY as is shown in the GPS manual. But IT WORKS!!
The unit can seem to hold a lock though, I will get one in about 20 secs if I unplug it and then plug back in, but after a minute or so it drops and never gets a lock again.
Could it be that the ciggy lighter (one supposed to be used to charge XDA) is not powerfull enough to do the XDA and GPS (the GPS doesn't appear to actually turn off when its losing the lock)
Cheers
Neil
Is it possible for you just to feed the gps with power using that adaptor? You could switch off power management on the xda temporarily so it stays on while experimenting.
Ok it doesn't appear to be a power thing, as the GPS does exactly the same thing when using my laptop, it will get a lock and hold the lock for exactly 2 minutes then the unit appears to power cycle as it loses all signal.
Certainly sounds like a component failure, can you return it or is it cannibalised?
Sent it back this afternoon, the unit has not been touched. Just made the XDA > Male PS/2 Connector, so hopefully it will work when the new one comes
ive also got the same uit and struggling to get it working i have tried to swapp the pins around too but nothing gps powers up and works fine but its not senidng data to the xda
looking at the datasheet i have connected the Rx RS-232 and Tx RS-232 to the pins 8 and 10 are they the right RX/TX's? as there are Rx TTL and Tx TTL too?
lmk cheers :\
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works ok with only one cobination but it shows the dots going to the pda on the gps screen but it stops after about 4-6 little dots then doesnt do nothing
HEEELLLP!!!! lol dont tell me i brought yet another bluddy gps and it dont want to work with my xda
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L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois
FVH said:
L.S.
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a Haicon GPS203e to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA connector and can figure out the RX TX GND and V+ myself.
What i am looking for is special connections for DCD, CTS, RTS and DTR. Do I need to connect them to e.g. eachother or gound to activate transmission??
Greetz Francois
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I do not know about the Haicom but you should not need to connect these.
Most GPS transmit constant NMEA signal while it is turned on (power on and with satellite lock). The biggest problem for you is how to power the GPS.
Thanks for your reply,
Power should not be an issue, i will connect to the XDA carkit which has a regulated supply for the XDA that should work for the GPS.
What I have seen in the past is that some of the additional RS-232 control lines have to be connected either to each other or ground to activate communication. I am wondering if somebody has a layout of the XDA cable for Haicom (three-way cable : lighterplug/gps/xda)
Francois
You do NOT need to connect or short any of the other lines to make this work. I've done the same with a Pharos GPS and custom car kit, and only connected the data and ground lines.
Tom Tom and Haicon GPS need extra line!
Today I tried to hook up the GPS to the XDA carkit as suggested (only GND TX and RX) but Tom Tom will generate an error saying it cannot connect to com1:
I noticed a difference in behaviour when using the orginal cable: when connecting the XDA it opens active sync immediatly.
Did some reverse engineering and found you need to connect the DCD to +5 volts. After that it works as designed.
Got the XDA carkit running with a Haicon GPS!
Francois
Newbie help
i would like to use my GPS Heicom 203 that i have purchaased for iPAQ 3870, can you help me with the connections to avoid damages in my XDA ? I am a newbie of this kind of works, so i wouldn't make disasters.
TIA
ConteMax
Reverse engineered XDA Carkit
Not sure is this is what you're looking for but a guy from the Netherlands did some reverse enginering on the XDA carkit...
Check out http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/content.php?id=1275
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
Cheers...
Mike
Some additional info from the guy in the Netherlands.
L.S.
It´s funny to see that I have originally started this topic and now are beeing refered back to my own information!!
If you need some additional info have a look at www.vanhemert.biz or drop me a mail.
Francois
connect GPS to XDA
Do you have connected Heicon GPS to XDA ? If so, can you post me the pinout connection to use Heicon with XDA ? Many thanks in advance.
P.S. Sorry, i don't want to make disasters.
Thanks again
ConteMax
ConteMax I have received your message to my e-mail adres last week and have sent you a reply to your questions. If you need the layout, please have a look at the following website: http://www.vanhemert.biz/Car_Kit_GPS_Connection.htm This page describes how to connect a Haicon 203e GPS mouse to the O2 carkit.
If you do not have a carkit, have a look at the connector page at : http://www.xda-developers.com/connectors/ it describes the layout of the XDA connector.
The only thing you have to do is connect the GND, RX, TX, VCC and DCD line to get the thing up and running.
Francois
XDA/MDA Connector GPS
You need information about connector GPS.Please send me an e-mail
([email protected]) and i send you a Fax with original colors of cables.
You can use all GPS-Mouse with PS2 and serial-Connector.
Connector for XDA/MDA without the carkit look:www.holux.de
JL
Can some body help me to the pinlayout for a cable that connects a GPS ( rs232 ) receiver to a XDA.
I have the layout for the GPS and XDA
We need to powered GPS and XDA ( GND and +5V ) and after :
GPS TX must be connected on pin 10 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
GPS RX must be connected on pin 8 ( RX RS232 ) XDA connector
Is it right ?
JLuc
I would be interested to know if the new XDA IIs has the same pinout as the earlier XDA's.
It's all in the cause fo getting the XDA IIs to accept a serial connection from my garmin GPS V.
Currently i get an error indicating COM 1 is unavailable
Any other suggestions welcome
Guest, check under setting/connections, make sure that beams is unchecked, this will release com 1, also if you have an external keyboard driver loaded you will need to deactivate this also.
Sorry to bother this forum whith even more questions about my car kit and TomTom GPS
I am trying to conect my TomTom GPS Mouse to my O2 CarKit.
I have found the pin configuration from another post on this site for the O2 Carkit connector.
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
(I hope this is correct)
But what the pin configuration for the TomTom GPS Receivers RJ11 connector is - I have no idea.
Please help anybody who knows which pins connect with which.
Thanks...
Yeah this one took me a while too....
Ok this is how to do it:
This is how to install a Leadtek GPS-mouse on the original O2 Carkit.
(The mouse shipped with Tom Tom Navigator is a Leadtek)
First of all you only need the cable with the RJ11 plug and the gps mouse on it. The 12V adapterplug you don't need anymore.
Preparation:
On the Carkit is a weird looking black connector for the gps.
Cut that off...
Now connect a connection block(I don't know the english word for it, but i mean the white blocks with screws in them so you can connect wires with other wires) to the following wires:
Brown
Black
Orange
Green
Now you can start:
Now you can choose to connect the mouse directly of you can make a removable connection. When I installed my carkit I used a fixed connection, but when I helped a friend out installing his carkit I used a standard phone connection box. You need a box where you can plug in a RJ11 connector. This is a better option because jou can easely unplug the gps mouse en use it again with the 12V adapter. This may come in handy if you want to be able to navigate in an other car too (Rental car on vacation).
I will explain how to make a fixed connection, so mounting a box in between will be fairly easy.
1) Cut off the RJ11 plug from the mouse
2) Strip the wires
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Note: The color codes of Leadtek mouse change all the time!
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In my case it where the following colors:
[Red](VCC +5)
[Wit] (RX)
[Black] (TX)
[No isolation] (Aarde)
3) Connect [Red] with (Brown)
4) Connect [White] met (Green)
5) Connect [Black] met (Orange)
6) Connect [No isolation] met (Black)
This should work!
PS
It may be wise to mount a switch between the radio-mute cable, because it mutes when you start TomTom.
You might want to listen to music when driving and navigating long distances.
do you know the pin numbers on the rj11 connector incase my wires are different colours...
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
You're welcom, by the way....
Thanks for your help - my sat nav is now working through the xda car kit.
I was a bit nervous when i pluged it in for the first time - but nothing blew up and it is now all working - i would recomend this setup to anybody.
It took me a few minutes to juggle all the volume settings around untill i found a combination that had phone calls and sat nav voice prompts all at the same level but once that was done everything is fine.
maxlw said:
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
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Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
Thxs in advance,
rene from holland
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
The connections should be as follows...
A1 to Black
A2 to Orange
A3 to Green
A4 to Brown
Hope this helps...
roycruse said:
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
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I just heard from another member. The solution is simple: if i turn out the irda port it should be ok.
I'm gonna trye first thing tomorrow.
thxs,
rene
I am having a problem with the xda not charging properly in ther O2 cradle whilst the GPS mouse is connected - its almost as if the GPS mouse is using most of the available current.
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
Does anybody else have any experience with this... what value resistor should I use...
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
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Don't do that!!!!
It should work fine without...
Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
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IF COM1 can't be found you have installed it correctly!
Hook everything up like before and then disable beam connection in [settings],[connections],[Beam]
This is a known problem with navigating on a pda!
After that you will see that it works.
Just don't don't add anything yourself you'll probably mess up your hardware!!!
Here are the instructions in Dutch....
http://forum.pocketpc-club.nl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12421&goto=nextoldest
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has successfully hooked up a Garmin E-Trex to an XDA. It should be possible using the serial connector from both (null-modem!?!). If so what software was being used on the XDA.
Cheers
Jeff
Garmin eTrex - XDA
The eTrex and XDA make a great combination even with Pocket Streets: the eTrex gives you the vector to your destination and the XDA shows you where you are on the map at zilch cost. The draw back is that you can find your target destination on PStreets but there doesn't seem to be a way of extracting the coordinates to feed into your eTrex.
So I got the TomTom Citymap of London to try that out and after a poor user experience when the supplied gps driver locked the XDA up and I had to download another, plus no explanations of various 2.06 driver features plus finding that parts of the M25 London orbital were chopped off, I have the best of both worlds. It only cost me 10UKP.
Oh yes, connections. You can buy a TomTom power/gps cable for the XDA that is meant to take the TomTom gps mouse via a 4 connector phone type socket. So all you have to do is come up with a 4 connector phone type plug leading off to you eTrex. If you have the eTrex car cable for power and RS232, which you might want to use with a laptop, you will not want to cut this. So get a cheap RS232 cable and chop the appropriate end off for your phone type connection. Marry everything up, ignore the wife's complaints about wires and delayed departures while you fiddle with the eTrex and XDA, and you are off.
The TomTom cable phone socket housing can be taken apart briefly to check which are the Common, TX and Rx wires, and the tiny circuit board even tells you which is which. If you want I can give you the pin outs but at the risk of misinterpretation.
Etrex GPS
Managed to get it to work with Navigator and am well impressed.
Got a cable from http://pc-mobile.net/gps.htm. However had a few problems to start off with. The XDA ground to a halt (I have updated the ROM to the latest O2 release and apprently TomTom 1.4 has a problem with later version). Updated TomTom to 1.51 and still no joy. Change the interface from Garmin to IMEA 4800 baud on both GPS and TomTom and had a great weekend driving up and down the motorway and country roads in Derbyshire.
Jeff
Jeff,
Cool, isn't it! Perhaps you can enlighten me about Navigator. Not knowing much about TomTom I rather expected voice prompts on the citymap thingy I downloaded. Question: what do you have to do to get the voice prompts invoked (spend more money probably) and can you hear them from the XDA? :?:
Ken
Navigator Talking
I have Navigator 1.51 installed (downloaded from Tom Tom site) only you need at least a previous version as otherwise there are no maps.
When you do a route plan (rather than just have it in map mode), it does the "300 yards turn right......turn right.....find the next convenient place and turn round"
Not sure what happens with previous versions as I had 1.4ish on before and that interfered with Windows as I had upgraded PPC2002 to a newer version and it odesn't like that too well.
Cheers
Jeff
Hi guys, do you know if the connector for the Garmin Geko 201 is the same as the Etrex? I was looking at buying the Geko and the cable from the site listed above but they don't say specifically for the Geko. I put an email question in to the cable guys but you never know how long it will take to get an answer. It's definitely a flat connector and not a round pin type. Thanks - Jim
Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy
You have to turn off the IR port.
Muddy said:
Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy
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disable your infra red port under setting, connections/beam, it will then work. A point about cables to work with gps, if you get a serial xda cable, and you also have a pc serial cable that links to your gps, all you need to do is get a 9 pin male to 9 pin male null modem adaptor, or make one, you need to join pin 2 on one to pin 3 on the other, pin 3 to pin 2 and pin 5 to pin 5, plug your xda lead one end, gps lead the other, and away you go.
hi all i brought a usb GPS receiver from off ebay (£38) for use with computer it is a NaviLock GPS which is suitable for PC, PDA and serial....
i have tried to get this to work but nothing
the model is: http://www.navilock.de/produkte/usb_gps.html BU-303
i have had a look at the xda connector place and am trying ti wire it up to a XDA car charger....
so far i have done....
RED wire - pin 21 (+5V) (on usb its +5V)
BLACK wire - pin 5 (GND) (on usb its GND)
GREEN wire - pin 8 (RS232_TXD) (on usb its DATA+)
WHITE wire - pin 10 (RS232_RXD) (on usb its DATA-)
could someone please help me as im totally confused why it will patch a signal but it wonr show on tomtom on serial 1 running v4.01.00 ppc2003 with baud rate of 4800 and nemea v2 or what ever it is
help me please
thx in advance
gaz
Looks like a usb only receiver to me.
um... but the serial and pda models are exactly the same as this but different conectors works fine on windows 98 but doesnt on xp :\ though its supposed to. pics up signal in like 10seconds much more powerfu lthen my old haicom 203e
but i want this on my xda badly dunno why it isnt working...
also i seem to have so many serial pports on my xda 1 lol its got:
com 9:
com 1:
com 2: (makes ppc go slow and freeze half the time)
usb on serial
ive tried them all but no luck :\ i swear for sure its connected up all ok :\
hellllp! lol
Try reversing the tx rx lines, it worked for swifty on his gps even though he wired it as per instructions.
tried everything :\ i rewired it back to usb to try out on my windows partition to make sure it wasnt a duff gps and it works exellent on windows 98 cant get it to work on xp nor how ever i hook it up on the xda doesnt work either the gps starts to flash to show it has a patch and thats like in my house its a hell of a powerful gps shame i cant get it on my xda
ah well waste of £40 damn gotta try flog it now
Hi,
I have installed nexus gen 1 in my Polo R6 and its working pretty well right now. When I put the key in the tablet starts and turns airplain mod off and wifi on. And when I take the key out and its not putted in again in 15secs the airplain mode goes on, wifi off and force shutdown spotify and Google maps.
There is no acc in vw so to get the tablet on when key is in I have the positiv cabel it via the fusebox. There was one fuse wich has power when I put the key in the lock.
The audio is via a aux connected to Pioneer MVH-X560BT with a rear aux input so I get a clean look.
I have just one problem and would need some ideas, the nexus gps has some problem to the get singnal. So how would you recommend to get better gps singnal?
N!KE26 said:
Hi,
I have installed nexus gen 1 in my Polo R6 and its working pretty well right now. When I put the key in the tablet starts and turns airplain mod off and wifi on. And when I take the key out and its not putted in again in 15secs the airplain mode goes on, wifi off and force shutdown spotify and Google maps.
There is no acc in vw so to get the tablet on when key is in I have the positiv cabel it via the fusebox. There was one fuse wich has power when I put the key in the lock.
The audio is via a aux connected to Pioneer MVH-X560BT with a rear aux input so I get a clean look.
I have just one problem and would need some ideas, the nexus gps has some problem to the get singnal. So how would you recommend to get better gps singnal?
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i have mine in the dash and have no gps issues at all. try gps fix or similar app first if it doesnt fix you could pull the antenna off the back of the case run it behind the rear view mirror then solder wires from the pins on the mother board to the pins of the antenna.it is pretty simple to do. or buy a bluetooth gps unit like 10-20 usd and pair it to the device via a app..
Pretty much the same as b3ltazar if you do move the GPS antenna though make sure you use quality shielded cable to avoid interference.
Sent from one of my 47 iPads running android C3P0
b3ltazar said:
i have mine in the dash and have no gps issues at all. try gps fix or similar app first if it doesnt fix you could pull the antenna off the back of the case run it behind the rear view mirror then solder wires from the pins on the mother board to the pins of the antenna.it is pretty simple to do. or buy a bluetooth gps unit like 10-20 usd and pair it to the device via a app..
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Do you think it is possible to buy one gps antenna and solder the wires of that to the mother board pins of the nexus? If not were is the nexus antenna in the backcover and will the antenna still work if I put cabel like 1m between it and the nexus?(sorry for asking but my is in the car and the car is not at home) Thnax for answers!
I guess the only way to find out is to try it might work then again what's on the case may only be a small part of the GPS unit the circuitry being on the motherboard I know external WiFi antennas have been fitted with some quite spectacular results search for nexus 7 Magic mile to see what I mean.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Captain Sweatpants said:
I guess the only way to find out is to try it might work then again what's on the case may only be a small part of the GPS unit the circuitry being on the motherboard I know external WiFi antennas have been fitted with some quite spectacular results search for nexus 7 Magic mile to see what I mean.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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I got the gps working now by soldering wires between the nexus motherboard and the gps antenna. The antenna is now next to nexus but still behind the dash. Works like a dream!:highfive:
I'm guessing your back cover was not on all the way, and the pins were not making contact to the antenna on the cover. But you fixed it. Great job, happy it worked out for you.
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Wicked50 said:
I'm guessing your back cover was not on all the way, and the pins were not making contact to the antenna on the cover. But you fixed it. Great job, happy it worked out for you.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using xda app-developers app
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im having the same issues guys but i cant locate the gps antena any help please have no gps at all