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O2 Carkit + TomTom GPS Mouse

Sorry to bother this forum whith even more questions about my car kit and TomTom GPS
I am trying to conect my TomTom GPS Mouse to my O2 CarKit.
I have found the pin configuration from another post on this site for the O2 Carkit connector.
RTS - Purple
DCD - Red
DTR - Blue
CTS - Yellow
RXD - Green
TXD - Orange
GND - Black
+5.5 V - Brown
(I hope this is correct)
But what the pin configuration for the TomTom GPS Receivers RJ11 connector is - I have no idea.
Please help anybody who knows which pins connect with which.
Thanks...

Yeah this one took me a while too....
Ok this is how to do it:
This is how to install a Leadtek GPS-mouse on the original O2 Carkit.
(The mouse shipped with Tom Tom Navigator is a Leadtek)
First of all you only need the cable with the RJ11 plug and the gps mouse on it. The 12V adapterplug you don't need anymore.
Preparation:
On the Carkit is a weird looking black connector for the gps.
Cut that off...
Now connect a connection block(I don't know the english word for it, but i mean the white blocks with screws in them so you can connect wires with other wires) to the following wires:
Brown
Black
Orange
Green
Now you can start:
Now you can choose to connect the mouse directly of you can make a removable connection. When I installed my carkit I used a fixed connection, but when I helped a friend out installing his carkit I used a standard phone connection box. You need a box where you can plug in a RJ11 connector. This is a better option because jou can easely unplug the gps mouse en use it again with the 12V adapter. This may come in handy if you want to be able to navigate in an other car too (Rental car on vacation).
I will explain how to make a fixed connection, so mounting a box in between will be fairly easy.
1) Cut off the RJ11 plug from the mouse
2) Strip the wires
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Note: The color codes of Leadtek mouse change all the time!
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In my case it where the following colors:
[Red](VCC +5)
[Wit] (RX)
[Black] (TX)
[No isolation] (Aarde)
3) Connect [Red] with (Brown)
4) Connect [White] met (Green)
5) Connect [Black] met (Orange)
6) Connect [No isolation] met (Black)
This should work!
PS
It may be wise to mount a switch between the radio-mute cable, because it mutes when you start TomTom.
You might want to listen to music when driving and navigating long distances.

do you know the pin numbers on the rj11 connector incase my wires are different colours...

No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4

You're welcom, by the way....

Thanks for your help - my sat nav is now working through the xda car kit.
I was a bit nervous when i pluged it in for the first time - but nothing blew up and it is now all working - i would recomend this setup to anybody.
It took me a few minutes to juggle all the volume settings around untill i found a combination that had phone calls and sat nav voice prompts all at the same level but once that was done everything is fine.

maxlw said:
No but you can see the wire witch no isolation as Pin 4
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Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
Thxs in advance,
rene from holland

Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.

The connections should be as follows...
A1 to Black
A2 to Orange
A3 to Green
A4 to Brown
Hope this helps...

roycruse said:
Im sorry - i cant help - when i connected it all up it just worked first time - i had no error messages so have no experience in sorting them out...
check here http://www.pdashop.nl/support/1732/79 for a pin diagram for the rj11 connector for the leadtek gps mouse and check your wiring is the only thing i can suggest.
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I just heard from another member. The solution is simple: if i turn out the irda port it should be ok.
I'm gonna trye first thing tomorrow.
thxs,
rene

I am having a problem with the xda not charging properly in ther O2 cradle whilst the GPS mouse is connected - its almost as if the GPS mouse is using most of the available current.
Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
Does anybody else have any experience with this... what value resistor should I use...

Im thinking of adding a resistor in series with the +Ve feed to the GPS mouse to limit the current it can take hoping this will leave more for charging the xda.
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Don't do that!!!!
It should work fine without...
Can you help me please????
when i connect the adaptercable from my gps system the xda stells me that the com1 port can't be found.
The tomtom software works, but the gps mouse is not recognised.
What can i do??
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IF COM1 can't be found you have installed it correctly!
Hook everything up like before and then disable beam connection in [settings],[connections],[Beam]
This is a known problem with navigating on a pda!
After that you will see that it works.
Just don't don't add anything yourself you'll probably mess up your hardware!!!
Here are the instructions in Dutch....
http://forum.pocketpc-club.nl/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12421&goto=nextoldest

Garmin e-Trex GPS -> XDA

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has successfully hooked up a Garmin E-Trex to an XDA. It should be possible using the serial connector from both (null-modem!?!). If so what software was being used on the XDA.
Cheers
Jeff

Garmin eTrex - XDA
The eTrex and XDA make a great combination even with Pocket Streets: the eTrex gives you the vector to your destination and the XDA shows you where you are on the map at zilch cost. The draw back is that you can find your target destination on PStreets but there doesn't seem to be a way of extracting the coordinates to feed into your eTrex.
So I got the TomTom Citymap of London to try that out and after a poor user experience when the supplied gps driver locked the XDA up and I had to download another, plus no explanations of various 2.06 driver features plus finding that parts of the M25 London orbital were chopped off, I have the best of both worlds. It only cost me 10UKP.
Oh yes, connections. You can buy a TomTom power/gps cable for the XDA that is meant to take the TomTom gps mouse via a 4 connector phone type socket. So all you have to do is come up with a 4 connector phone type plug leading off to you eTrex. If you have the eTrex car cable for power and RS232, which you might want to use with a laptop, you will not want to cut this. So get a cheap RS232 cable and chop the appropriate end off for your phone type connection. Marry everything up, ignore the wife's complaints about wires and delayed departures while you fiddle with the eTrex and XDA, and you are off.
The TomTom cable phone socket housing can be taken apart briefly to check which are the Common, TX and Rx wires, and the tiny circuit board even tells you which is which. If you want I can give you the pin outs but at the risk of misinterpretation.

Etrex GPS
Managed to get it to work with Navigator and am well impressed.
Got a cable from http://pc-mobile.net/gps.htm. However had a few problems to start off with. The XDA ground to a halt (I have updated the ROM to the latest O2 release and apprently TomTom 1.4 has a problem with later version). Updated TomTom to 1.51 and still no joy. Change the interface from Garmin to IMEA 4800 baud on both GPS and TomTom and had a great weekend driving up and down the motorway and country roads in Derbyshire.
Jeff

Jeff,
Cool, isn't it! Perhaps you can enlighten me about Navigator. Not knowing much about TomTom I rather expected voice prompts on the citymap thingy I downloaded. Question: what do you have to do to get the voice prompts invoked (spend more money probably) and can you hear them from the XDA? :?:
Ken

Navigator Talking
I have Navigator 1.51 installed (downloaded from Tom Tom site) only you need at least a previous version as otherwise there are no maps.
When you do a route plan (rather than just have it in map mode), it does the "300 yards turn right......turn right.....find the next convenient place and turn round"
Not sure what happens with previous versions as I had 1.4ish on before and that interfered with Windows as I had upgraded PPC2002 to a newer version and it odesn't like that too well.
Cheers
Jeff

Hi guys, do you know if the connector for the Garmin Geko 201 is the same as the Etrex? I was looking at buying the Geko and the cable from the site listed above but they don't say specifically for the Geko. I put an email question in to the cable guys but you never know how long it will take to get an answer. It's definitely a flat connector and not a round pin type. Thanks - Jim

Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy

You have to turn off the IR port.
Muddy said:
Hi,
I've bought a Fortuna U2 GPS receiver with an O2 XDA lead.
I've downloaded some software (GPSeasyCE), but when I try and connect to the GPS unit, I get "unable to open COM1".
Any suggestoins please?
I have tuned my keyboard driver to IR & serial, and I think I'm using the correct com port settings (4800bps, NMEA 0183).
I'd really like to just check that the hardware is working.
Can I download some free demo software that will do that?
What's best?
Thanks in advance, for any help anyone can offer,
Muddy
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disable your infra red port under setting, connections/beam, it will then work. A point about cables to work with gps, if you get a serial xda cable, and you also have a pc serial cable that links to your gps, all you need to do is get a 9 pin male to 9 pin male null modem adaptor, or make one, you need to join pin 2 on one to pin 3 on the other, pin 3 to pin 2 and pin 5 to pin 5, plug your xda lead one end, gps lead the other, and away you go.

GPS Receiver won't work :( Please help!

I have just got a Rikaline 6010 GPS unit, and make a cable that go's from the Ps/2 Connector to the XDA connector.. the GPS powers on, but Tomtom doesn't appear to be getting any data, on the GPS screen the little Satellite - - - PDA area is not showing any data being sent/received.
The PDA works fine, as I have it hooked up to my Digitraveler (Rikaline is for my dad)
I have tried selecting TomTom GPS Receiver, Rikaline 6010, NMEA 4800 from the GPS menu but none of them work
Rikaline have the Pinout in their manual: http://www.rikaline.com/download/GPS-6010-Manual-E.pdf
I have the RS232 TX & RX connected to Pin 8 & 10 on the XDA connector.
GND is on Pin 5 of the XDA connector, and +5 is taken from cigarette lighter.
Is this correct ?
Should I be using the TTL connections instead ? where would they go on the XDA ?
Many Thanks
Neil

Have you tried reversing the tx/rx connections, worth a try? How are you powering the gps?

GPS is being powered from ciggy lighter in the car, I've just made a PC cable and tried using some diagnostic software to read the raw data from the GPS and nothing
I think the unit may be knackered...

Well..... what do ya know! I thought what the hell.. i'll swap the data leads round and see if it makes any difference even though both cables were wired EXACTLY as is shown in the GPS manual. But IT WORKS!!
The unit can seem to hold a lock though, I will get one in about 20 secs if I unplug it and then plug back in, but after a minute or so it drops and never gets a lock again.
Could it be that the ciggy lighter (one supposed to be used to charge XDA) is not powerfull enough to do the XDA and GPS (the GPS doesn't appear to actually turn off when its losing the lock)
Cheers
Neil

Is it possible for you just to feed the gps with power using that adaptor? You could switch off power management on the xda temporarily so it stays on while experimenting.

Ok it doesn't appear to be a power thing, as the GPS does exactly the same thing when using my laptop, it will get a lock and hold the lock for exactly 2 minutes then the unit appears to power cycle as it loses all signal.

Certainly sounds like a component failure, can you return it or is it cannibalised?

Sent it back this afternoon, the unit has not been touched. Just made the XDA > Male PS/2 Connector, so hopefully it will work when the new one comes

ive also got the same uit and struggling to get it working i have tried to swapp the pins around too but nothing gps powers up and works fine but its not senidng data to the xda
looking at the datasheet i have connected the Rx RS-232 and Tx RS-232 to the pins 8 and 10 are they the right RX/TX's? as there are Rx TTL and Tx TTL too?
lmk cheers :\
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works ok with only one cobination but it shows the dots going to the pda on the gps screen but it stops after about 4-6 little dots then doesnt do nothing
HEEELLLP!!!! lol dont tell me i brought yet another bluddy gps and it dont want to work with my xda

"USB Device Not Recognised"

My Xda II connects fine to my laptop (HP dv1000 running on XP) using the USB plug from the cradle. I just got a Xda IIi on ebay that runs fine but won't connect! When I put it in the same cradle a message says "USB Device Not Recognised", Device Manager shows "Unknown device" and Activesync can't find it. The battery charges so the physical connection must be OK. I can't believe that the Xda II cradle doesn't also work for the Xda IIi. Any suggestions?

From what I understand, the physical wiring of the USB section of docking connector differs between the XDA2i and the XDA2, so you're straight outta luck (unless you fancy doing some nifty resoldering to your XDA2 dock... But then you wouldn't be able to use your XDA2).
I might be wrong, but my (crap) memory seems to remember that the wiring differs (something I thought very odd, too).

try to nistall the driver from the CD
I've rid of all of those problem after I insert the CD after the wizard faound new hardware.

AlbertWT said:
try to nistall the driver from the CD
I've rid of all of those problem after I insert the CD after the wizard faound new hardware.
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Can somebody upload this driver, for WIN98?!

Serial Port Profile for GPS2Blue

Hi,
I'm trying to get GPS2Blue to work and managed to get a connection between my Kaiser and my desktop (with a dongle using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack) by creating an outgoing port on the Kaiser (start-settings-connections-bluetooth-com ports-new outgoing port-DESKTOP-next).
I am successfully paired with a Lenovo T61 using the internal bluetooth with a broadcom stack (Vista Bunsiness x64), but while the Desktop advertises 'Serial Port' and 'ActiveSync' as bluetooth services, the T61 stack only advertises 'ActiveSync' 'Wireless Stereo' and 'Headset'. As a result, I can't add an outgoing port to the laptop and GPS2Blue doesn't work.
Does anyone know how to tell the broadcom stack to tell the kaiser that it has SPP (Serial Port Profile) available for it? Using GPS2Blue over TCP/IP is not an option because the virtual com port driver currently doesn't support Vista x64.
This has been bugging me for a loooong time, I'd really appreciate any help with this. Thanks!
Lncdoc

OK, 2 things.
Firstly, GPS2Blue doesn't need an Outgoing port on the Kaiser, but an Incoming one. Then, you discover services on the phone, from the PC, and you'll have a serial port you should connect to. Not the other way around like you were saying. Now, WM6/6.1 don't let the user set an incoming port from the BT configuration page anymore, so a manual registry edit is necessary. Attached is a .reg file that will set an incoming port on COM6.
Apply this, soft reset. Then run GPS2Blue, set it to use COM6, discover services from the PC, connect to the serial port, and connect to whatever serial port the stack maps it on the PC with your GPS program.
Secondly (but now unrelated!), if from the phone you'd like to see a serial port on the PC, there are 2 solutions. Firstly look for an "add new seral port" option in your BT stack on the PC, some support multiple ones.
If there's none, you should open activesync connection page, disable serial connection. On the Phone the Arcivesync entry will now revert to serial port. To have AS again, reenable the COM port connection in AS.

Thanks a lot! That worked like a charm. After Vista with the Broadcom stack forced the use of COM9, I changed it manually to COM5 in the device manager (For reference of other people wanting to do this: Device Manager / Ports (COM & LPT) / Standard Serial over Bluetooth link (COMn) / Right Click / Properties / Port Settings / Advanced / COM Port Number), since some software (like MeHere) only supports up to COM8.
Now everything works like a charm on my laptop.
Note that this weirdly enough also works with an Outgoing port on the Kaiser if you have a stack (on your PC) which broadcasts the availability of an incoming serial port (in which case the Kaiser initiates the connection, not the PC, and the COM Port sends regardless of whether something is connected or not...). Not that I'm recommending this route to anyone, but I got this working on the Toshiba stack.
Anyway, thanks a lot again, it's finally working perfectly with OziExplorer, MeHere, Google Earth.... you name it.
Lncdoc

Arrrrgggg! I am so close. The incoming BT port bit helped me to get connected but, although GPS2Blue is gettting a lock, and I appear to be connected to EarthBridge/PC, the GPS data doesn't appear to be transmitted to Earthbridge/PC. Google Earth keeps putting me off the coast of Africa instead of south Florida.
I'm about ready to go pickup a copy of Streets & Trips with GPS.

GPS2Blue 1.9
I allready got .reg file on my computer.
The only thing i don't understand is how to get the incomming port on my laptop....
Greetz
Peter

Loaded the appropriate reg values...nothing. Still doesn't work. I can't see the port on the PC or Handheld under "Bluetooth Services".

Thanks kilrah
Your solutions works great for me and i have tested this with my i900 and two different notebooks running Windows 7 and Windows XP
Works in both notebooks
I was using Garmin Mobile PC Version 5
Thanks again for your great help

thx kilrah
'elpetah1984' you must import registry value to PDA windows not PC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8429209#post8429209

F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!

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F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!
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That'd be great!
Did you get it to work with many apps? I remember one time I managed to get it set (don't know how, can't reproduce my semi-success) so I could share the ActiveSync port and in Windows I could open the COM port on PuTTY to see the NEMA output but only a couple apps recognized that there was a GPS there -- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
I'd definately be interested if you came up with a reliable way to make it work.

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-- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
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I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start

iRiKi said:
I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start
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Good luck, XP is out of the question for me because HP doesn't provide Bluetooth drivers back to before Vista. Maybe I can find a way to forward the COM port and a USB WiFi adapter through VirtualBox and use XP that way...though I've been unsuccessful with either of those so far.

Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack I don't think you can forward COM ports tho, but if you have an external USB bluetooth adapter you can also forward it into XP!! Will try that asap!
Thing is, I wanted to use the onboard wireless because it's way more sensitive than the external USB adapter, but it's not possible to forward it inside a virtualbox.
Ahhh computer issues.. always bugging me since 1993 XD

iRiKi said:
Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack
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I got bad news and good news.
Bad news:
The USB forwarding of my wireless card works under Linux but FAILS under a XP VM!!! %$#*@#!"#
Good news:
Downloaded Franson GpsGate trial and now inSSIDer is working !!!!