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blue tooth activesync and cingular 8125

Need help. Trying to set up blue tooth on cingular 8125. Just bought new kensington bt and it set up serial com as com 4 and 5. The phone only gives u the option of com 6 and com 7. Any ideas? The BT does connect to phone but activesync cant find phone. Tried activsync 4.1 and 4.2. Thanks in advance for help.

I'm having the same trouble. i scoured this and other forums but can't find any info on this problem. I think we may need to upgrade the rom on our phones. I'm still running the stock rom and i think if we upgrade that might correct the problem.

I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.

bob_beringer said:
I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.
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This is the simpliest method to fix the problem.
I had many bad rounds of this and finally did a reinstall of the bluetooth and then Active"stink" (crappy program for many reasons).
You have to make sure that you can identify the port that you 8125 establishes a bluetooth session with beforee you try to sync with. This port number is used in Activesync to know which port to talk through.
Please make sure that in the connections of Activesync that you choose the port for which you identified as bluetooth connected to your device.
THEN try to re-establish a bluetooth Activesync connection from your 8125 (pair it if you need to) and "bing" there should the option for Activesync.

ktwildchild said:
bob_beringer said:
I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.
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This is the simpliest method to fix the problem.
I had many bad rounds of this and finally did a reinstall of the bluetooth and then Active"stink" (crappy program for many reasons).
You have to make sure that you can identify the port that you 8125 establishes a bluetooth session with beforee you try to sync with. This port number is used in Activesync to know which port to talk through.
Please make sure that in the connections of Activesync that you choose the port for which you identified as bluetooth connected to your device.
THEN try to re-establish a bluetooth Activesync connection from your 8125 (pair it if you need to) and "bing" there should the option for Activesync.
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If you guys still have problems with this after let me know. I played with this for a few hours about a month ago and could retrace my steps. A couple of phone reboots after setting up the ports helped

Just to add, I noticed that once I upgraded the ROM to Summiter's 2.25 I was able to walk out of BT range and when I returned re-sync via ActiveSync without doing a soft-reset of the phone.
As SK7575 said, be sure to post there are plenty of folks using this connectivty option and it does work....

And I had this working - nicely syncing between my cingular 8125 and laptop via BT!!
But then I tried to get my 8125 to connect to my new wireless network - which did not work - and in the process of trying everything I must have broken something, because now after trying everything imaginable I just never see that activesync service on my 8125 any more.
The last I tried was to remove all the BT serial ports from device manager after deleting them from the HP bluetooth neighborhood (I have a bigger HP laptop with built in BT).
Then rebootet and four new BT ports were found and installed. Then I told the HP software to make a new incoming port (they call it service) and got COM 5. Then I told activesync on the PC to use COM5 for syncing.
Made sure all pairing was removed. booted both the HTC and PC - paired the two - bang - no 'activesync' service.
Now I am running out of options especially as I don't know how to un- and reinstall the HP software that comes with the laptop.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Gunter

I also have the HP BT stack on my laptop and ActiveStink does not sync with my MDA.
Any answers here, may help get me synced via BT.
Is the trick to see which USB port comes alive when I connect MDA via USB?
and use that on my PC for ActiveSync to listen to via BT on my laptop?
Thanks
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NB

I'd be glad to hear if someone has the Belkin F8T012 USB dongle and that they have that working with bluetooth ActiveStink.
'Cause everything I've tried, I never ever see the "Activesync" profile appear on my device when pairing, I only see an available Serial Port.
Does anyone know the details of how that active sync profile is cretaed on the 'puter? If I could troubleshoot from that angle, I bet I'd have it working...
-Chuck

The Bluetooth and Windows Mobile Device Center Dilemma

Hey everyone!!
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
It works with cable but not Bluetooth (BL).
I appreciate comments.
Thanks

A.Bagatov said:
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
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It worked pretty easy on my S730. Make sure you enable BT on the phone and your computer. Pair the PC with the S730 and start ActiveSync on your mobile. Select the option 'Connect via Bluetooth' and that was it (for me).

you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices

A.Bagatov said:
you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices
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I use Windows Vista Business (32-bit) and I needed to upgrade Mobile Device Center. It works without any problems afterwards. The only disadvantage is that I need to manually connect on my phone, before it starts synchronizing. I would rather have it syncronized whenever it is near my laptop.

it doesnt work for me. bluetooth is turned on in both devices.
does anyone have any suggestions?
i have the toshiba bluetooth stack software, do you use that too??

I had the same problem. Open you WMDC and go into Mobile Device Settings and select Connection Settings. Under Allow connection to one of the following: change the selection from Bluetooth to COM7.
Then open your device and set up your bluetooth connection again. You should see Activesync now.
You are most likely using the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack instead of WIDCOMM.

IT IS NOT WORKING
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
this is so STUPID
when i try to set up on my phone then it says "you have no partner for activeysnc, get one?"
i say YES and choose my computer
then i can select a port a one point and i CANT select 7
whats the solution!=?!

From your response I think you are trying to set the COM port on your device but you should be changing it in Windows Mobile Device Center.
I'll go step by step in case I was not clear.
1- Disconnect your Wing from your computer.
2- Open Windows Mobile Device Center
3- The only option should be "Mobile Device Settings"
4- In Mobile Device Settings you should have two option Connection Settings and End a partnership, select Connection Settings.
5- Under the second check box "Allow connection to one of the following" there is a drop-down box which should currently read "Bluetooth". In the drop-down box change that selection to COM7.
Note: If COM7 is not available, then I suggest you uninstall your Bluetooth device drivers and then reinstall them.
6- Close Windows Mobile Device Center
Now return to your device.
Delete any existing Bluetooth connections to your computer. and reestablish your Bluetooth connection. You don't need to change any COM settings on your device. Just establish your connection and you should have the Activesync option once it is reconnected.
This is under the assumption that you are running the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack on your computer. If you are and it doesn't work, I'm all out of ideas.

I should have specified that as of Step 2 above, this is all done on your computer not your smartphone, i.e. HTC Wings.
Your problem with Bluetooth is on the computer not the device, most likely.

this doesnt work... i did all the things like u told me on the computer.
then i go to my phone and try to connect from activesync via bluetooth and it says that no computer with a partnership could be found?? even though i actually made bluetooth partnership with my pc. when i added my pc to my bluetooth devices list on my HTC it told me that my pc supported 2 services: stereo audio and com port. i ticked com port... it doesnt seem to help.
on my pc, when i open the bluetooth stack software from toshiba i can see my phone has a partnership with my pc. but it has a network symbol on it.. is this supposed to be like that? ah this is so frustrating? any suggestions?

The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.

Something currious happened with my device when I was reestablishing my Bluetooth connection, which may be of interest to you.
I erased my original Bluetooth connection and while reestablishing it my device was also connected to my computer with the USB cable. When I paired the device, there was no option for ActiveSync. I disconnected my device and then started the Bluetooth pairing over and this time ActiveSync was available.
Does this help?

Any of you guys who have sucessfully pairedd WDMC in Vista with S730 over bluetooth use original MS out-of-box bluetooth drivers?

I've only used the Toshiba and Widcomm Bluetooth Stacks and have been able to sync with both on Vista.

dagobert_29 said:
The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.
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there is the problem: "You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection."
because as soon as i enter the bluetooth password on my phone and computer, there appears a bluetooth connection in the manager from toshiba. this connection has a "network" symbol and the services offered are com port and stereo audio. thats not much is it? and also when i click "connect" an error comes up.. connection couldnt be established or something.
i hate this. how can be a SIMPLE task so problematic?
toshiba drivers are working fine. send and receive works. and my phone is fine too. the wmdc work fine as well via USB. i also installed the wmdc UPDATE..... wtf right?!

Hey A.Bagatov,
I'm at a complete loss to understand why you can't get WMDC to work with your phone over BT. You've done everything I've done but unlike you I was able toe stablish the connection.
The only other thing I can think of is to download the latest BT drivers from Toshiba. But before you install them, make a copy of the TosBtChk.dll file and once you've completed the installation of your new BT drivers, replace the new TosBtChk.dll with the one you saved. This will stop you from receiving the trial period notification.
If that doesn't work, then maybe replace your Toshiba BT stack with the Widcomm stack. You'll need to locate a version compatible with your computer.

i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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I've also got a Sony Vaio, SZ45, and on the Notebook Review forum, there is a thread that discusses replacing the Toshiba BT stack with Widcomm, which you can get free of charge. The thread offers a modified file which should be sufficient to enable Widcommon your laptop. Here's a link to the general forum http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

mpattonm said:
You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS
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Microsoft are not the developers of the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack, it's owned by Broadcom. It can be obtained for free, however, you're right in saying it may not work with non-Broadcom hardware. In A.Bagatov's case, the issue is with Toshiba not Microsoft. They are the one's who developed a driver that is not always compatible with non-Toshiba products.
According to other posts I've, the Microsoft generic Bluetooth drivers would appear to work just fine with Windows Mobile devices, however, I was unable to get it working and did not pursue the matter any further once I was able to get the Toshiba BT Stack to function.
I can sympathize with your frustration, but your post does not help him solve his problem.

Bluetooth Sync- Please help

Hi all:
After hours of searching and trying, and failing, I have given in, and decided to go ahead and ask. Please be gentle, I know how much everyone hates when people ask already answered questions, but I have honestly spent hours trying to solve this problem.
I am unable to get bluetooth sync to work (Windows XP).
I kept getting too high a COM port number, and was not able to select it on ppc.
After many searches both here and Google, I was finally able to get a COM port which was low enough for my Tilt to recognize (COM port 9). I Added new device to Tilt, and FINALLY I had ActiveSync as an option.
It indicated I should select COM port 9 to sync. I have also gone into my bluetooth place on PC, and verified that it shows COM 9 as My Serial Port. I have also checked, and my PC does show up on ppc bluetooth devices. I have double checked that ppc is discoverable. I also added 9 under COM ports on phone.
However, ActiveSync on PC does not list COM port 9 as an option.
Also, when I try to add Tilt to My bluetooth places (on PC), it tells me no available COM ports on ppc.
If I go to Activesync on phone, and click connect via bluetooth, it says opening port, then connecting to host, and a pop-up on pc states that ppc is connected to blueooth serial port on PC (COM 9). After this, all activity stops, and active sync does not ever connect.
Please help me
Thanks!

You don't need to set a COM port on the PPC itself. Delete it as well as the pairing with your PC.
On the PC, check the Serial Port service is enabled in the BT settings. I'd then make sure the COM port number is between 1-8. Now where this is done depends on the BT software stack you have on the PC, it can be in the BT settings, or you might have to go in the device manager, COM ports, find the Bluetooth COM port and change its number here in the advanced properties.
Open Activesync connection settings, check the COM port tick and select the port in the dropdown. If you can't see the port here and select it it won't work, so theres no chance your current setup will work.
Then on the phone add new device, select the PC, type same passwords on both sides to create the pairing. In the next service window you should have Activesync, tick it, finish. This should now work, at least I've always done that way for years now with different PCs and PPCs. Activesync is crap though, and on some configurations I needed to kill the activesync process and relaunch it everytime before connecting or it wouldn't work, or open the connection settings, remove the COM port tick and dismiss, then open again and put it back.
Also, when you connect on the PPC, some PC bluetooth stacks will ask you everytime if you want to allow the connection, but the prompt doesn't appear unless you go manually click in the BT tray icon. That was on my last PC.
There are often small issues but I always got it to work somehow

Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.
I deleted the COM port on phone, as you instructed.I also deleted pairing.
I wasn't able to set COM port to a lower number than 9. There was no advanced properties for the COM ports in device manager. I even enabled show hidden devices, and show non present devices. Still nothing. I have no idea what is trying up the lower numbered COM ports.
Somewhere along the line, ActiveSync started showing COM port 9 as an option. After selecting it, it now works perfectly.
I am however mad, and frustrated as I don't know which of the MANY steps I took fixed it. I wish I did, so I could post it here, and hopefully help someone else who is about to pull their hair out trying to get their Kaiser to sync via bluetooth. Not to mention if I ever have to set it up again for myself, I have no clue what got it working
Thanks again for your help!!

In the future:
Turn on bluetooth on phone/PC
Right click 'My Computer'/Manage/Device Manager
Check what COM Port your Bluetooth on PC is using
Start Active Sync/File/Connections/Allow Connections from the following (select COM here)
Hit OK then Sync.

Hi Nufsaid:
Thanks for the steps, but believe me, I had tried that dozens of times. My problem wasn't with setting up pairing or anything like that. All the COM ports assigned to bluetooth were way too high for ppc to recognize. Eventually after much effort I got the serial COM port down to COM port 9 (which the phone now was able to use, before it had been 16, 17, 18). Active Sync refused to recognize that COM port. Anyway (as I mentioned in my previous post), after hours of trying, COM port 9 magically showed up as an option in Active Sync. Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.

cincy1020 said:
Sadly I am not sure which of the many steps I took fixed the issue.
Thanks anyway.
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Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well

kilrah said:
Don't worry, the first time I tried to sync a PPC via BT I had the exact same kind of problem and never found out how I got it to work. But since then the steps above have worked well
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LOL
That is funny, but great to hear!
Thanks!

Okay, this is really becoming RIDICULOUS!
I had it syncing perfectly last night. All I did, was go to bed. Turned off bluetooth on phone, and turned off PC.
Today when I went to sync again, COM port 9 is no longer listed in ActiveSync.
And of course, it will not sync. I have tried everything to get COM post 9 to show up again, and it will not. My bluetooth serial post is still listed as COM port 9, and when I establish a connection, it connects, It just won't connect to ActiveSync. I tried deleting the pairing, and re-pairing, but now ActiveSync is not longer listed as an option on phone after pairing.
Any ideas, or suggestions would REALLY be appreciated. And believe me, I have searched, and searched, and then searched some more, I just can't fix this.
Thanks!

Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example

kilrah said:
Install another Bluetooth stack (one that works ) on your PC? Widcomm for example
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Hi:
Thanks for your reply.
I actually am already using Widcomm. Is it possible Widcomm is not working well with my PC? Should I try another? Any suggestions.
Again, thanks for your help. While I am not new to PCs or PPCs, I am VERY new to bluetooth and all that jazz, lol.
Thanks
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Actually, I should have said I have the Widcomm stack installed. I am not however sure how to verify that it is being used.

i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.

I'm using Widcomm (actually the one that is bundled with my Logitech MX5000 desktop bluetooth keyboard/mouse) and it works perfectly fine. On my laptop I have a Toshiba stack and it works well too. Maybe you have an old version that is bogus? I have had trouble to get the widcomm stack to work at the beginning, Windows default crappy stack would always take the BT hardware over preventing the Widcomm stack from using it.

AthenaLod said:
i once read that it works with BlueSoliel, not Widcomm. Try that. BlueSoliel worked for me, but not Widcomm.
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Just got a new mini dongle I'm trying to use BlueSoliel, but am having trouble, I can push to my phone, listen to music via stereo bluetooth, but can't serial. BlueSoliel gives an option in tools/configuration/quick connect to assign com ports, but the ones shown won't show on my phone as an outgoing/incoming port...have you figured this out? All I want to do is Activesync via Bluetooth.

You don't need any port to appear on the phone for sync. What matters is the COM port number on the PC. You need to know it, set activesync to use it, then do a pairing preferably from the phone, and select on the phone to use the PC's "ActiveSync" service that should appear in the list if the PC configuration is OK.
Basically there's nothing to configure on the phone. If something's wrong it's 95% chance that it's on the PC.

In Built GPS using with laptop

Hello
I have some gps software on my laptop. i was wondering if anyone has used the gps unit on the tytn/touch pro wiht a laptop. ie configure the gps on com4 as a outgoing port to use with laptop/computer.
thanks
s

saleemarshad said:
Hello
I have some gps software on my laptop. i was wondering if anyone has used the gps unit on the tytn/touch pro wiht a laptop. ie configure the gps on com4 as a outgoing port to use with laptop/computer.
thanks
s
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Try http://franson.com/gpsgate/
This is not free, but I guess you can try the trial version. In the windows mobile client you can use activesync as output and connect your phone to your computer. gpsgate should work on your computer after some configuration, I don't have full details but you can read at the above link.
I use gpsgate on my phone but I did not try on my computer.

I actually ordered a usb GPS 'dongle' and it's about the size of a USB flash drive or a BT dongle. I originally planned on taking it apart and hardwiring it into the motherboard of my laptop, but I think i'm going to hold off on it. Might make a good alternative to using the BT on your phone for GPS though.

There is a free app called GPS2BLUE (I think) that can send GPS data to your laptop through BT. I never test it, but as I remember, this was what it was made for.

Bluetooth

Hi,
I just bought a Bluetooth dongle for my PC. (Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M)
The main reasons for buying this was so I could sync without using one of my very spare USB ports.
Another big reason was that I really want to try SideShow.
So, I hooked the thing up, installed it. Works like a charm for most services (files etc). It just doesn't work for two things: ActiveSync (on the phone)/Windows Device Center (on my PC) and Windows SideShow. Yay.
Could you please help me out?
To summarize:
PC with Vista Home Premium,
Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M,
HTC S730.
Not working for ActiveSync nor SideShow.
x5x_tim
PS: I installed something called "X86-PC Drivers.cab" I found in some thread. That's supposed to be the drivers for the SideShow service on the PC. (I think I installed them, I did not get an error from Rundll32...)
EDIT: what might be of use: I can't get the devices to pair if I use the PC to initiate that. The PC does not find the phone untill I pair them using to phone to initiate.

I don't know about SideShow but I managed once to ActiveSync my Wings through Bluetooth. Just be sure to remove any security restricition on your Bluetooth settings on your device. Like Secure Connection etc... Also, setup a serial port when you connect with your PC and then, at PC ActiveSync settings, at connection settings -> Allow Connections To One Of The Following (Com 4 or whatever). And then, at ActiveSync on your mobile, connect through Bluetooth. Try it and come again if it doesn't work.

Yes! Thank you. It's syncing as I type. That COM4 did the trick!

In the same way, you can have Internet on your mobile through Bluetooth's activesync connection. It is helpful if you don't have wifi on your mobile.