I recently purchased and modified an old RS Digitraveler and modified it for my MDA with the instructions here. Works great ... Thanks to Yorch and Cellfreak. Now I am wondering if anyone tried a better mapping software that will go with it. I would be very interested especially in creating my own maps for countries outside US for travels.
Also does anyone have a solution for SD 802.11b network card without SDIO port maybe using the usb connection etc on the craddle connector?
Cheers.
HB
I have attempted many direct cable and USB W-Fi solutions ( with Wireless Acess points from CISCO, Lynksis and others).
The biggest challenge is finding a unit that is self powered( does not draw power from the USB port itself) and for the device to recognize it.
I managed to get the device to recognize a WAP connected to a powered USB hub...but it was tricky and it defies the purpose of wireless connectivity because it is plugged in...
I open to ideas...
There is a thread called WIFI for the XDA with more details.
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They have GPS receivers that work through the bottom cradle connection for IPAQs they also have other devieces like keyboards that work like this.
Would it be possible to develop a 80211 dongle that could click into the
cradle port? is anyone working on this? is there anyone that would have
enough knowledge to beging working on this i could contact. I would love to get 802.11 for this baby.
Dan said:
Would it be possible to develop a 80211 dongle that could click into the cradle port? is anyone working on this? is there anyone that would have enough knowledge to beging working on this i could contact. I would love to get 802.11 for this baby.
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No, sorry. The XDA connector on the bottom supports USB and serial. However, the USB will only do 'Slave Mode', i.e. act as a USB device towards a computer. There are USB 802.11 devices, but they work as devices as well, and thus need a 'Master' to talk to. And there's no serial 802.11b transceivers out that we know of.
You could conceiveably build a USB device that plays the master role and feeds the IP through just like ActiveSync does, but nobody has done that yet. For the manufacturers this shouldn't be that hard, given the amount of spare processing power on these 802.11 tranceivers. (And while we're at it, we might as well incorporate a GPS connected to the serial port...)
hmm
so this won't be something that a little hacking group such as XDA developers would be capable of?
Hi
In a short time a wireless lan card will be available which you can plug into you SD Slot. See http://www.sychip.com/wlan-module.html
See ya
Mick
Helllo.
I don´t think, that the wireless lan card will work in the XDA. In the technical PDF there is a picture that shows a SDIO-Interface.
XDA still do NOT have a SDIO-Interface.
Regards
Stefan
hold on, why do u need a wireless lan card? I thought the xda was a wireless device, surely it ought to have wireless connectivity built into it? If you had a corporate wireless network, cant it just be configured to connect?
Of course it has wireless support, using GSM and/or GPRS and infrared. But WLAN support is something entirely different, and that is definitely not included.
Shouldn't be too hard to design a WLAN adapter acting as an USB master though. With the pass-through functionality built into the activesync software it has definitely been shown that the USB connection can be used for network access.
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Shouldn't be too hard to design a WLAN adapter acting as an USB master though. With the pass-through functionality built into the activesync software it has definitely been shown that the USB connection can be used for network access.
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Yo bamse,
Ever want to be very, very popular ? You would make hero of the month on our charts, that's for sure...
What about these guys:
http://www.datahunter.com
I know it's RS232 and not USB, but apart from that the Liberator should do the trick almost straight away, and they also advertise a module that could be built into a sleaker package:
OEM 802.11 WLAN Mini-Modules
OEM and ODM manufacturers can incorporate FCC ?Modular? pre-certified 802.11b mini-modules into their products. The Data Hunter 802.11 mini-modules have the Operating System Wireless LAN software drivers built-in. Interface options are the ones Engineers need, including high-speed async logic-level or RS232, SPI processor interface, USB and full Ethernet TCP/IP. No additional FCC certification required for the modular 802.11 data radios. Start shipping integrated WLAN immediately. Includes single antenna for bulkhead mount or dual diversity antennas
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What about these guys [...]
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I could be wrong, but from their site I get the strong impression none of it is done, and they'll start work on it the minute someone orders a few thousand.
Also: they base everything on the Compact Flash 802.11 cards with some extra hardware, which is unlikely to pretend it's a PC running ActiveSync straight out of the box, so some extra work is in order.
What we need is a CF 802.11 card that comes with an SDK for adding your own code. No need for extra parts and power consumption: the card should have enough spare cycles to pretend it's ActiveSync on Windows plus the USB. (Or serial at 115.200 if that's somehow easier). Then all we need after the two manmonths of coding is a nice plastic stick-one case and we're done...
Ok, how about this then:
http://www.tuanistechnology.com/products/avaya/converter/
Or this:
http://www.autodnc.de/ctwlani.htm
You'll find a whole bunch of them out there, all serial and 115200bps, but none of the companies seem to have identified the PDA-owners a market for their produkts.
I'd say most of these products use way to much power for PDA use.
Really, let's not build stuff that's already on the PC or CF card to begin with.
Anyone found a way to access 802.11b yet? I see that Linksys has the WCF12 (The Wireless CompactFlash Card installs directly into your Pocket PC using a CompactFlash Type I or Type II slot). I think that fits the IPaq. I need one for the SX56.
I saw some creative ideas above. Anybody try matching the pin-outs yet??
:roll: Sigh. Read my lips. It won't work. It's not a matter of "pin-outs." It's far, far deeper than that on both hardware and software.
And really, would you want to access an ethernet network at 115k??? What for?
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Helllo.
I don´t think, that the wireless lan card will work in the XDA. In the technical PDF there is a picture that shows a SDIO-Interface.
XDA still do NOT have a SDIO-Interface.
Regards
Stefan
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While I doubt that anyone will, it ought to be a small task to design a Bluetooth interface that will work with SDIO or SD either as a polled device or memory mapped I/O. For Bluetooth this should produce acceptable results --- for 802.11b clearly it would not.
It won't work. It's not a matter of "pin-outs." It's far, far deeper than that on both hardware and software.
And really, would you want to access an ethernet network at 115k??? What for?
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It certainly seems doable. What is the limitation on the SX56 that does not exist on iPaq? And since I struggled through years and years of 36K dialup before DSL, for the limited data access needed for a PDA, 115K seems like heaven. Noone is going to treat it like a workstation. But access to remote data has a wide range of applications.
The iPaq has an expansion port, the XDA does not.
Carlos:
If you have a quick look at one of the links I have provided above you should find that there are a couple of solutions available for anyone who would like to connect a 802.11 device to a serial port. They may be a little bulky and power hungry, but that can surely be taken care of.
There will be 256MB SDIO card with built-in 801.11, right? What about a 256MB SDRW card with built-in SDIO and USB-host? With the USB/serial/power/peripheral connector of the Qtek sitting next to the SD-slot you could easily build a device that connects to both "ports". Wouldn't it be nice?
wi-fi stuffs for Qtek
Hi Bamse,
Could you tell me what exactly that I would need to purchased
to have my Qtek works with wi-fi? Thank you.
None of it exists today. Everything posted so far is theoretical. It will never exist. There's no market for it.
Anyone have/know of a solution to use USB instead of Serial for the wireless modem fetures?
The Laptop systems I build are too small and dont offer LPT or Serial ports.
Thanx
Todd
-- I do have a USB to Serial adapter kit from Belkin but would rather not have to use that.
I know how to do it: there's just no freakin' time!
Could someone please do the following:
- Create a virtual serial port on the PC. (This is the only non-trivial part, especially if it must work under 98/ME as well as under NT/2000/XP.)
- Verify presence of special DLL upon ActiveSync, transfer DLL if it's not there.
- When COM port on host PC is opened, signal is sent to DLL, which proceeds to suspend TAPI and talk to the the modem. (See XDAunlock.exe source for details)
- Use the documented method for transferring streaming data via ActiveSync, from the virtual comm port, via the DLL, to the modem. And vice versa, ofcourse. Comm port can be at any speed, modem is 115k2.
- Revert to normal when virtual COM port is closed.
If someone has code for a virtual com-port lying around, the rest isn't hard, and it would make a lot of people very happy.
well i guess ill do this instead for now
here is a nice small adapter i found w a virtual port - similar to the Belkin i already have but smaller in size (and this is important)
http://www.iogear.com/products/product.php?Item=GUC232A
Hey can i please get a pole from the members on who is using the wireless modem - the quality they are getting and the provider (ie ATT, Tmobile...) they are using please?
WiFi anyone??
well here is an application im planning on emulating w the Wireless modem of the XDA. Currently Im using Wifi which is great but when i cant "stumble" on an open AP id like to use the wireless modem in the XDA
http://www.jonadams.com/pages/wifi/wifi_setup.htm
I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
The Tilt has Ethernet support native. Go to settings, select Wifi & switch to NE2000 Compatible Ethernet Driver.
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I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
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1. welcome to xda-devs
2. there is no memory card- or USB-based Ethernet interface for the Kaiser, sorry. Ethernet cards have only been produced as CF cards.
You could use something like a Linksys (or any brand, for that matter) WiFi router to do the trick and then connect to it.
You may run into an issue, though, because most hotels have an entry page where you have to accept their terms of service (yes, even the free ones do this) before getting out to the internet. It is possible that your router will not forward that properly to your phone, or that PIE won't render it properly and you won't be able to finish the signup.
Also note that unless you have something like a WRT54G Linksys router with custom firmware (like DD-WRT), you will be double-NATted, which may, in itself, cause problems.
@GSLEON3 - sure, the IP stack in the Tilt supports Ethernet, but you have to get Layer 1 out of the way first - the physical layer. If you can't physically connect an ethernet cable to the phone, how are you gonna get to the internet?
A lot of hotels have WiFi bridges so that you can use wireless-only devices on their network. Maybe they have one available? Then again, now that I think about it, maybe not. I'm thinking of the other way around where you don't have WiFi in your laptop and they only have WiFi, not ethernet connections. Nevermind. It's late...
I *think* this might work.....
Eithernet-to-USB cable
(http://www.ipenabled.com/netusb.html)
Then patch to a female-female USB coupler (http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_1_AA1582.html)
Then connect that to your normal PC sync cable.
Eithernet at one end, microUSB at the other.
The USB on the Kaiser doesn't work that way. It can act like a client (think ext. hard drive) but not a host (your PC). It's the same reason you can't connect an external hard drive to your phone.
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I have a Tilt and expect to stay in a hotel that has Internet access via Ethernet, but no WiFi.
Any ideas on how to best connect my Tilt to their Ethernet?
First idea is maybe a WiFi travel router or AP like the DWL-6730AP, but I hate the idea of carrying along extra equipment when the whole point of the Tilt is to avoid bringing my laptop.
Is there some sort of Ethernet-to-USB dongle?
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I use the 3COM Travel Router (3CRTV10075/WL-534) as its a small portable router with NAT and Firewall (stops others in the hotel from seeing your devices). It can be configured as Router, AP or Client so that in AP mode it will connect directly to the Ethernet connection in a hotel room and you have access for both your phone and laptop.
Thanks for the welcome and the ideas, everybody!
It's a shame the USB port won't work for an Internet connection. Has anyone ever tried just in case?
I guess it's a travel router then, I'll go with the 3Com unless anyone can confirm they have used the tiny Netgear WGR101 successfully.
Is the microSD conector I/O capable?? If so, we can plug there normal ethernet card....
okay
so i plug in my tilt into the cradle, or the mini usb cable connection that i have, and in either case, the orange light comes up and the phone does indeed charge...however, the computer does not pick it up at all, i've tried on several computers already, and i tried it with pdacorner 16 and 18, both of which worked fine up until recently when this started happening...
so my question is, is it possible for the mini usb port on my tilt to have gotten messed up to the point where it still charges, but the connection to the computer doesn't work...
if so, what can i do about it?
the main reason i want to connect to the computer is to be able to use the 3g internet on my laptop/desktop, is there another way to do this?
The answer to the first question to the best of my knowledge is yes. The second question, you can send it to HTC or another repair company to get it repaired. I assume you have already tried a hard reset though. You can still tether your computer to your modem using your device's Wi-Fi and a program like WMWifiRouter. It isn't free, but it has many useful features including the ability to use your device's data connection over Wi-Fi. And FYI, if your computer has built in bluetooth (or you have a USB bluetooth USB key like I do), I think you can also tether over bluetooth without WMWifiRouter. I hope that answers your questions
Dave
*crossposted from the general Q&A forum*
Hi everyone,
As mentioned in the title, I have a G1 running cyanogen 4.2.9.1, and I'm using the wired USB tether to connect my PC to my wifi connection as, unfortunately, a semi-permanent solution. I knocked out the bus on 3 of my 4 available PCI slots, so it was a tough choice between my audigy 4 and my wireless card.
My phone acts as a pretty viable surrogate for a wireless card, with 1 notable exception: It doesn't forward ports properly. Gaming can be finicky, particularly hosting games, and BitTorrent can give me a hard time, so I was wondering if there was any way I could correct these problems using IPtables or some other built in tool.
I know my router's config is fine because I was able to do all of these things absolutely fine with my legit PCI wireless card.
Thanks again.
no love on this?
I started to wonder the same thing earlier....
But for a completely different reason!
I was trying to setup remote desktop on my tp2..... to connect to my desktop which is connected to the internet through my g1 usb tether! Now the only issue is the port forwarding... how would I gain access to that setup?
not to be mean but, why not use the latest stable rom 4.2.15.1?