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Did any Americans on this forum vote for the bush?

Personally I hope not......

wonder how many recounts they do this time around ?
and maybe a trail ?
read about there being very many activists trying to keep people from voting this time
flyers saying the election had been moved to the day after
and
people comming round to peoples doors saying that the election place they were to go to had been shutdown and they could just write their vote in and give it to them
pretty crazy well suppose some people care more about who win then the democratic process

I'm sure there are some.
The fact that the rest of the world was hoping Kerry would win, has little influence to the us-citizens. Like we should care what America thinks of who we should vote for.
I just hope that this victory, doesn't give Bush a carte-blanche on his foreign policy. The fact that he no longer has to worry about getting re-elected won't help his diplomatic powers. He also doesn't have to care anymore about men coming home in body bags. These men believing they fought for freedom, democracy and the glory of the US, but in fact only went to defend the intrest of some multinationals.

Jupiter said:
Did any Americans on this forum vote for the bush?
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Statistically, one out of two.
Not sure your question is really inocent though :roll:
I think you like hot & touchy thread

The fact that the rest of the world was hoping Kerry would win, has little influence to the us-citizens. Like we should care what America thinks of who we should vote for.
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yeah it could even have the opposite effect a lot of people would get stubbern and do the opposite then what some snotnosed rest of the world person would advice
I just hope that this victory, doesn't give Bush a carte-blanche on his foreign policy. The fact that he no longer has to worry about getting re-elected won't help his diplomatic powers. He also doesn't have to care anymore about men coming home in body bags. These men believing they fought for freedom, democracy and the glory of the US, but in fact only went to defend the intrest of some multinationals.
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but how that he dont have to worry about reelection he may begin to worry about how he looks in the history books and be less confrontational agenst the rest of the world when it comes to deplomatics
here a big news papir had a pole
32000 people voted
kerry got 79%
nater got 8%
nobody got 7%
bush got 6%
so one might say that if that pole had been reality bush lost to nobody

Guys,
Please give me 5 specific reason why Kerry should have been elected, concrete issues/reasons, not just buzz words.
Thanks,

paulmc
imho then kerry was less religous in his motivs when it came to politics thinking stemcell research and giving gay people the rights of marriage in some form or another
imho then kerry was less likely to offend and alienate allies and other countries in the world
imho then kerry would not have a prison camp on cuba where the internaitiol laws conserning prisoners of war were not enforced
maybe the kerry administation would have had less % of people being investergated for insider deals and corruption
and finaly then imho then it keeps a better balance if the house of rep
and the senetors and president is not in the hands of a single party
it's more moderated
just a few things i could come up with on the top of my head
of cause there are surely people who differ in openion

Please give me 5 specific reason why Kerry should have been elected, concrete issues/reasons, not just buzz words
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Who said I wanted Kerry to be elected. Its a case of Predator vs Alien. Whoever wins, we lose!

Not sure your question is really inocent though
I think you like hot & touchy thread
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Who, me?

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Not sure your question is really inocent though
I think you like hot & touchy thread
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Who, me?
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Yes

paulmc said:
Guys,
Please give me 5 specific reason why Kerry should have been elected, concrete issues/reasons, not just buzz words.
Thanks,
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I'll give you my personal opinion, conceptual more than practical as I do not live in the US, nor be concerned with elements such as "he voted that" or "he said this".
I think Bush is a dangerous religious totalitarist. I have no reason to vote for Kerry, but plenty to wish that Bush be moved aside from active international politics.
To me this man should not be re-elected as he should be forced into in LaHaye and charged with the 5 following elements against him:
1. Invading a sovereign country in complete violation of all international law, without UN approval, under very suspicious reasons, obviously telling lies about AMD and supposed connection with Ben Ladden
2. When forced to admit the is no connection between Sadam Hussein, Ben Ladden and AMD, thus no reason to invade this country, not even admitting he was wrong or worst, he got cheated or even worse of all, he deliberately lied to his people, to the nations concerned and to the rest of the world.
3. Establishing concentration camp for Afghanistan prisoners in complete violation of international law, and principles, and international treaty without having those prisoners charged of anything, and allowing no international control of what is happening in this camp
4. Sending his army to perpetuated atrocity and humiliation to irakee prisoners who have not even been charged of anything. (Keep in mind that all the US commanding officers in Irak saw before leaving, the French film "The Battle of Alger" showing what France did during the battle of Algeria, were we did exactly what you are doing presently in Iraq because we were facing the same problem). Let's call it what it is Atrocity. And we know what we are talking about for we did it too!
5. Legitimating the exclusive right for the US to strike any nations they think be a potential threat to their interest and freedom, and denying any one else the right to do so. This is to me the worst of all as establishing this principle is like opening the box of Pandora. It is open to excess, abuse and one-sided interpretation.
I've put a lot of strong word in my post. Take a moment and think about it
- Why does most of the earth citizen desired that this guy be not elected?
- Why did France, which is one of the FEW developed nations that NEVER started a war against your country and which stood many times with your people to fight all along your history, decided to stand-up and shout so loud.
- Why did my small country (France), which has relative small influence, little to offer and many to loose, be backed up by so many countries in its protest?
The US cannot be right against the rest of the world; else this is not democracy any more.
This is to me the 5 reasons why Kerry should be elected.
What would be 5 reasons to elect Bush?

- Why did France, which is one of the FEW developed nations that NEVER started a war against your country
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so that mean that there are pretty few developed nations since when i think i can mention
briten / canada
mexico
germany
japan
vietnam
koera
who were at war with us

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mexico
germany
japan
vietnam
koera
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Sorry I did not get this ? What is you point ?
If you talk about nations who were officially at war with the US, you can add UK, Italy, Spain, Philippine, Laos. Buy my post was more about Western European nations

i were just wondering which countries had been to war with US since they were formed and you helped me by adding some that i dident remember

IMHO, for me it's kind of obvious why Bush will win... (not that I like to see him win), but remember that ever since Bush started his presidential period, the US where attacked in their own territory, so basically all Bush has done is to govern based on terror, and in the other hand all Kerry has done is negate the terror threat and threaten to reduce the weapons and national security budgets. Ok, it might be true that the terror threat is not that great, but tell that to the American people and I bet they rather not take chances.
So, I think that for the American people, which basically has lived in terror for more than three years, it's imperative that Bush takes care of business, you know, fight for "freedom" in his own selfish pathetic way :evil:
Like the old sayng goes "better safe than sorry"... :roll:
[thought]I wonder why Al Gore didn't run this time? [/thought]

i believe it's rare that a loosing party put the same guy up more then once
popular vote showed that people dident like him too much last time
that he were to unanimated for their taste

Anyone into politics?

Made a site ... based off Jim Brousarrd (if you don't know who he is or what he did, check out the main site before heading to the forums).
http://www.therealpatriot.net
If you have already seen the video... would love to have you come in and join our discussion.... Direct link-->http://therealpatriot.net/cgi/forum
Thanks guys! Hope to see ya around!

Wow... honestly thought that what he did was pretty controversial. I mean.. even if you don't join the site... would love to hear what you guys think

Into politics? Are you kidding? I got kicked off the at&t forums... how's THAT for 'into politics'?
(didn't mean to hijack your thread... but could not resist the bait!)

FoneJunkie said:
Into politics? Are you kidding? I got kicked off the at&t forums... how's THAT for 'into politics'?
(didn't mean to hijack your thread... but could not resist the bait!)
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LOL.... well don't have AT&T, but have heard some of the horror stories and saw something on the news that if you "talk bad" about them, they will drop you as a customer or something? That's hilarious in my book.

momentarylapseofreason said:
LOL.... well don't have AT&T, but have heard some of the horror stories and saw something on the news that if you "talk bad" about them, they will drop you as a customer or something? That's hilarious in my book.
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That would be Sprint>>>
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/SprintDumpingCustomers.aspx
AT&T just has over sensitive forum moderators with inadequacy issues. FoneJunkie and myself were banned because of "political correctness". Our crime was we objected to having a Spanish language forum. I have nothing against the language or culture. All cultures and people to me are interesting, fun to be around, and find something to learn from. I just want people who choose to LIVE in the USA to learn to speak the language so we can communicate. That's not to much to ask is it?
Anyway, enough of political correctness and on to politics.
ME FOR PRESIDENT!!!

GWelker62 said:
That would be Sprint>>>
I just want people who choose to LIVE in the USA to learn to speak the language so we can communicate. That's not to much to ask is it?
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From Wikipedia, indigenous languages
North America is notable for its linguistic diversity, especially in California where it alone has 18 genetic units consisting of 74 languages (compare to the mere 4 genetic units in all of Europe: Basque, Indo-European, Uralic, and Turkic). Another area of considerable diversity appears to have been the Southeast; however, many of these languages became extinct from European contact and as a result they are, for the most part, absent from historical record. This diversity has been and continues to be very influential in the development of linguistic thought in the U.S.
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From Wikipedia, USA:
English is the de facto language of American government; Spanish is the second most common. English, Spanish, French, and Hawaiian are officially recognized by various states.
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the United States has no official language at the federal level
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Some Americans advocate making English the country's official language
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If you do so, please make it "real" English, the Queen's English.
Professor Henry Higgins: There even are places where English completely disappears; in America they haven't used it for years.
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Back on topic (therealpatriot.net):
One of the first phrases on that website, the first that jumps into my eye:
"The Land of the Free"...
There are over 16,000,000,000 people, about 250,000,000 live in the USA, so the rest of us, 15,750,000,000 are the poor souls living in the lands of the unfree? the oppressed? Don't you see that that phrase "the land of the free" is very insulting to the rest of the world, ignorant, short sighted, denying our rich histories, cultures and political systems?

Maggy said:
If you do so, please make it "real" English, the Queen's English.
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ROFL... I second that. An English comedian (can't remember his name) was talking about how everybody says he has an accent. He says since he speaks the Queen's English, it's everybody else has an accent. I have to agree.
Maggy said:
Back on topic (therealpatriot.net):
One of the first phrases on that website, the first that jumps into my eye:
"The Land of the Free"...
There are over 16,000,000,000 people, about 250,000,000 live in the USA, so the rest of us, 15,750,000,000 are the poor souls living in the lands of the unfree? the oppressed? Don't you see that that phrase "the land of the free" is very insulting to the rest of the world, ignorant, short sighted, denying our rich histories, cultures and political systems?
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Your insulted because you are adding a word into that line that isn't there.
It is "The Land of the Free"....
NOT "The only Land of the Free".
And speaking of indigenous languages, neither English or Spanish is indigenous of the Americas. From Mexico (and slowly moving north) on down, Spanish is the language of their conquerors. Most of the culture is influenced by a country thousands of miles away. And of course most should know the history of the English speaking people and their relationship to Native Americans. And you French guys... all you got was some of Canada and south Louisiana.

Your insulted because you are adding a word into that line that isn't there.
It is "The Land of the Free"....
NOT "The only Land of the Free".
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I did not, I did not, you did, you did. The phrase is unfortunately not :
"A land of some of the free"
I just ate A big apple, that's something else than THE Big Apple
(I hope, if not, then my tummy is about to explode)
And you French guys...
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Moi, je ne suis ni Français(e) ni guy. I'm a Dutch girl.

Maggy said:
The phrase is unfortunately not :
"A land of some of the free"
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That might be a better way to put it.
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Moi, je ne suis ni Français(e) ni guy. I'm a Dutch girl.
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Dutch girl??? I've heard some stories about you Dutch girls.
And of course "you French guys" was directed at.... well... French guys.

I'm Dutch and Irish myself. But here lies the problem with your argument. The term "Land of the Free" isn't arrogant. It's the truth (though that is being taken away more and more everyday). We have more rights then *most* other countries right now. You are playing with semantics.
How many other countries have what we have? We, as America do have our problems. Education is crap, many other countries have better health care than us, and we have this terrible habit of messing with other countries when we need to focus more on our own.
Even though we do have our shortfalls, the world is looking on us for those and not for all the good we do. We pass out more money to other countries than anyone else, we DO take in an unprecedented number of new citizens, and we are trying to work on our shortcomings.
So... with all the problems we currently face, do I love my country? Yes I do. I wouldn't have joined the military in order to risk my life to defend it if I didn't. My site isn't designed to belittle other countries. My site is designed around patriotism. It is also there as a open forum to discuss people that disagree with me.

momentarylapseofreason..... I like the way you think.
I want to add something to it too. I think we (USA) have the best form of government out of any country. But it has one major flaw, if I can call it a flaw. It is the fact it requires men and women of integrity and honesty to run it. And well, we are in short supply of that.

is that why you are in prison?

Rudegar said:
is that why you are in prison?
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I am in prison (aka marriage) because of stupidity.

a politician in germany is working on a fix
http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t77380.html
"“A marriage should terminate automatically after seven years”, she told attending journalists."

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The term "Land of the Free" isn't arrogant.
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Not "Land of the Free" but "THE Land of the Free" is the point of discussion
We have more rights then *most* other countries right now.
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That's very hard to judge. But lets look at some examples:
I do not have the right to carry a fire arm and I'm very glad with that situation. If I face a situation of inhumane physical suffering, I do have the right to die and doctors do have the right to help me with that last wish. I have the right to grow, buy, smoke cannabis. Every 4 years I have the right to vote for 2eKamer (compare to US Senate, more or less), I can choose from hundreds of candidates throughout the entire political spectrum, even a party for animals is actually represented in parliament. I FEEL much more free than if I would have to live in the US. But probably much less free than lots of people in Africa, Asia, South America, Australia who can walk their whole life without crossing roads, without even being able to imagine a traffic jam, who can build their hut wherever they please, who can eat whatever they can grab.
You are playing with semantics.
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Yes, great game
We pass out more money to other countries than anyone else,
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not at all true per capita, nor in % of gross national product
quote from Wikipedia, official development assistance:
The United States is the world's largest contributor of ODA in absolute terms ($15.7 billion, 2003), but the smallest among developed countries as a percentage of its GDP (0.14% in 2003).
we DO take in an unprecedented number of new citizens,
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Some quotes from Wikipedia, Immigration
The EU, in 2005, had an overall net gain from international migration of +1.8 million people. This accounts for almost 85% of Europe's total population growth in 2005
After 2000, legal immigrants to the United States numbered approximately 1,000,000 per year.
Canada has the highest per capita immigration rate in the world

democracy chart
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/DEMOCRACY_INDEX_2007_v3.pdf
giving food to the poor countries chart
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp?p=1

best city to live in
http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html
most expensive city to live in
http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html

Have to love people that quote Wikipedia like it's the damned bible. It's written by people like you and I.
Oh.. and one other thing. Why don't you find THIS on Wikipedia; You say Spanish is the second most spoken language in America. It is now!? Because all of the illegal sons of a *****es come here and expect hand outs.
Wow, you have the ability to smoke cannibas? That's your argument? ROFLMAO. Answer me this.... If your country is so much better than America, so much easier... Why aren't people from European nations moving there instead of here? Our Polish/Russian/Serbian immigration is staggering lately.
Gwelker, the reason that we are having troubles with our government is because it is black & white. When was the last time you read about what the green party, constitution, independent or libertarian party stood for (much less voted for one).
MARK MY WORDS:
"Until Americans realize that this is not a 2 party system, we are ****ed"
End of story.....
So... wanna bring this over to my forum?

Rudegar said:
best city to live in
http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html
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I love Switzerland... but if you look at cost of living in any of the cities up top, it's outrageous. I have several friends high up at Siemens that I visit in Germany all of the time. I would take that or Switzerland over the Netherlands any day. However, it is still expensive. Taxes are outrageous in comparison.

GWelker62 said:
That would be Sprint>>>
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/SprintDumpingCustomers.aspx
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Didn't have the time to look it up earlier... but http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Censors-Customers-Negative-Opinions-88010
Sprint only drops users calling X number of times a day to customer service... AT&T is actually dropping customers that just talk bad about them

No more Santa saying Ho Ho Ho in Australia

This is a load of bull IMO!!!!
Full Story

well, IMO, the story is a load of bull. The last couple of lines...
Westaff national operations manager Greg Jansz said it was "misleading" to say the company had banned Santa's traditional greeting and it was being left up to the discretion of Santa himself.
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give the lie to it..
news.com.au...I don't suppose that's a Murdoch rag perchance?
Every year we get this in the Murdoch papers in the UK;
"The political correct lefties banned christmas as it's offensive to
Jews/Muslims/Atheists/one armed lesbian trade union representatives!*"
(*delete as appropriate)
....and it is always either blown out of all proportion or misrepresented
Santas across Sydney are rebelling...
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Two Santa hopefuls reportedly quit the course because of the hullabaloo of the ho, ho, ho.
One would-be Santa has told The Daily Telegraph he was taught not to use "ho, ho, ho" because it was too close to the American slang for prostitute. He also quit.
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...but they couldn't find even one would-be Santa to say anything on record?...I smell a rat.

XDA-Developer's Grand Eyeball Party!!!

I'm wondering if it is possible in the near future to held a grand eyeball for all xda-dev members? lol Now we get to see in person those who cooked ROMs for us, those senior members who bully us when we used to be a noob, those sarcastic members, those kind ones..hehe...and our French guys will be our host and it will be in France and it will flood with wine..beers..pasta..american dishes, asian dishes, all the dishes there is...and I get to see xplode, sun_dream, helmi_c, greatbal, egzthunder1, oldsap, and all my idols here and we get to show off our HTC phones..wehehehe hahaha lol...hmmmmm I will definitely attend that party no matter what. Before I get old and forget about everything I want to meet you guys..heheh..lol..oh man!

This actually would be a great great idea!
hard to acomplish because distances, work, and money issues
But that would be AN UNPRECEDENT EVENT IN THE WHOLE WWW!!!
First point to discuss:
1.- Where?
I have some miles acumulated on my JAL account and willing to use them for this cause!
If ever gets real...

Yep, this might be hard to accomplish and might take years before it happens. But you'll never know. I want to see xplode in person before he explodes!!! LOL I want to see sun_dream before M$ put him behind bars (LOL sun, just jokin, peace bro! You know I luv ya...) And this would be one of a heck grand as in GRAND eyeball! Some from US, some from UK, some from Philippines, from Bulgaria, from mexico from Australia, from China, from Malaysia, from India, from Japan (hey bring some sushi..) from Italy, from Germany, from around the world in one place.
First point to discuss:
1.- Where?
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Can't vote Philipines. Can't assure you guys your safety. Abu Sayaff is everywhere. LOL. Joke.
hmmmmm... What about in France or in Miami..hehe but f course everything will be expensive but if we will go in Philippines or China or Malaysia, money will worth double that means double the fun. Or we can just go to xplode's house
What about your place orb?

red_hanks said:
Yep, this might be hard to accomplish and might take years before it happens. But you'll never know. I want to see xplode in person before he explodes!!! LOL I want to see sun_dream before M$ put him behind bars (LOL sun, just jokin, peace bro! You know I luv ya...) And this would be one of a heck grand as in GRAND eyeball! Some from US, some from UK, some from Philippines, from Bulgaria, from mexico from Australia, from China, from Malaysia, from India, from Japan (hey bring some sushi..) from Italy, from Germany, from around the world in one place.
Can't vote Philipines. Can't assure you guys your safety. Abu Sayaff is everywhere. LOL. Joke.
hmmmmm... What about in France or in Miami..hehe but f course everything will be expensive but if we will go in Philippines or China or Malaysia, money will worth double that means double the fun. Or we can just go to xplode's house
What about your place orb?
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Mexico would be fantastic! and we have nice places!
we are not an expensive country, and lees if most people comes form UK & USA!
1 british pound is = 18 mexican pesos
1 us dollar = 14 pesos

orb3000 said:
This actually would be a great great idea!
hard to acomplish because distances, work, and money issues
But that would be AN UNPRECEDENT EVENT IN THE WHOLE WWW!!!
First point to discuss:
1.- Where?
I have some miles acumulated on my JAL account and willing to use them for this cause!
If ever gets real...
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Amsterdam of course...
Legal Drugs, Hookers... er, I mean, that's where xda all started
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Amsterdam of course...
Legal Drugs, Hookers... er, I mean, that's where xda all started
Dave
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Wow!
I think with those atractives nobody will refuse to go Amsterdam! (Never been there)
An oh..of course that was the creation place, so now number 2 on the list:
2. When?

When? That my friend we don't know...

Hello all,
I am in the hospitality business and organise events for a number of blue chips – in short my company is the best in the business.
I get good rates on hotels, restaurants and have excellent connections for all things conference throughout Europe. So if Italy, Spain, Portugal, South Africa, Uk or Ireland is a possible venue for the proposed event, I will be happy to get involved. I am a big fan of XDA.
Work is on going on our website just now so I am aware that a number of pages need updating... its in the hands of the HTML engineer... link in my signature if ya wanna have a look at what we do.
Best,
J

This would be pretty cool however i've never seen it work out in any other forum. I think the best thing to do would be to create a poll and see where most people are located. Say there's a bundle in California, then we could have one in LA or some place close to all Californians. Same thing for other states, countries, even cities, etc. We could then all share our experiences. As for me, i'm in Southern California, hence the reason i used it

More or less this event might take place in the US or somewhere in Europe...only few asian are here...

It is a nice idea. Make it a convention and invite some guest speakers to show off the future of mobile devices, have reps from HTC and others perhaps like Sony, Motorola, Nokia, Jabra, etc... showing off newest gadgets and gear - Workshop seminars and stuff like that. It could be a fun time to meet some of our members in person, talk, show off our devices and envy the other person's device and a good learning opportunity as well.

invite some guest speakers to show off the future of mobile devices, have reps from HTC and others perhaps like Sony, Motorola, Nokia, Jabra, etc... showing off newest gadgets and gear -
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it won't be an eyeball anymore. It will look like a convention, a meeting, etc. And that will be boring because everyone should be formal. Just an "ORDINARY' but "GRANDacious" eyeball.. exclusively fro XDA-DEV members and if you like we can invite M$ as our guest speaker..LOL
Just a regular GRAND EYEBALL, just to meet each and everyone here at XDA-DEV. No paper works, no signing up just beer and phones and girls too...

kareem9nba said:
This would be pretty cool however i've never seen it work out in any other forum. I think the best thing to do would be to create a poll and see where most people are located. Say there's a bundle in California, then we could have one in LA or some place close to all Californians. Same thing for other states, countries, even cities, etc. We could then all share our experiences. As for me, i'm in Southern California, hence the reason i used it
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Agree with the poll
Starting form there we can see how many would like to attend and where most people is located
But I must say that I agree with Daveshaw that the best place should be where all this started: Amsterdam!
So who is going to create the poll?

Yeah, Amsterdam would be great! And there will be raffle promos and HTC Devices giveaways courtesy of all xda-dev's moderators and admins... Come one let's make this happen.

Great poll!
LOL
Last option looks pretty cool!

hehehe if that last option wins...you got to pay my expenses going to your place!

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Can't vote Philipines. Can't assure you guys your safety. Abu Sayaff is everywhere. LOL. Joke.
hmmmmm... What about in France or in Miami..hehe but f course everything will be expensive but if we will go in Philippines or China or Malaysia, money will worth double that means double the fun. Or we can just go to xplode's house
What about your place orb?
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just a cent from a newbee, i hope this great idea will happen sooner...
i agree however that safety, next of course to resources, is definitely the issue needed to be considered by anyone else. but who's safe nowadays? i dont think there's a better place than our own abode (just be sure our better half is out.. lol)..
a little clarification though about Philippines vis a vis Abu Sayaff (ASG). ASG concentrates mostly in northern part of Mindanao and now being relentlessly pursued. on the otherhand, there are great places in the Philippines particularly in Luzon & Visayas, although as i've said cant be considered safer that our homes. But on the brighter side, your 1$ to Php47.++ is quite noteworthy of consideration.... more than double the fun i guess
Btw, considering the "safety" issue as quoted, i voted for the last option (peace orb...)
cheers...

hotrod101 said:
It is a nice idea. Make it a convention and invite some guest speakers to show off the future of mobile devices, have reps from HTC and others perhaps like Sony, Motorola, Nokia, Jabra, etc... showing off newest gadgets and gear - Workshop seminars and stuff like that. It could be a fun time to meet some of our members in person, talk, show off our devices and envy the other person's device and a good learning opportunity as well.
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and Microsoft too.... for moratorium on infringement

@phezthie
yeah, your dollar worth a lot here in the philippines...now everybody knows *darn* lol
Of course there are lots of great places here...it's a 7,100 island country..pick your choice.
Hey Orb... 2 votes for you now..jejeje...

red_hanks said:
@phezthie
yeah, your dollar worth a lot here in the philippines...now everybody knows *darn* lol
Of course there are lots of great places here...it's a 7,100 island country..pick your choice.
Hey Orb... 2 votes for you now..jejeje...
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yep, I´m watching!!
Ready for Tequila?
3. The host city (Members) use their money to provide a place for the eyeball party and lots drinks of course!!!

French fighter jets deployed over Libya

So, the west is finally in Libya helping the rebels over there.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=T1
I believe this is great, as long as air support is the only thing we're supporting with. I know, we are not the world's police, but when such a genocide is taking place I believe it's right to help the people of Libya.

Yeah I think it's about time the UN/US/UK/France did something about this. Colonel Gudaffi (spelling?) is totally messed up in the head. Does he honestly think that attacking even more now is going to help the situation? And more does he think that Pro-Gudaffi people take on the western world? Let's hope it ends well with little or no deaths to be had to those risking their lives going over to help the Libyan people.

I'm shocked at this.
I mean;
France going to war!?!
What universe did I wake up in!?

DanWilson said:
I'm shocked at this.
I mean;
France going to war!?!
What universe did I wake up in!?
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France has for long been a very powerful country when it comes to their army. It's also one of the five members of the United Nations Security Council.
France and UK are leading the operation.
US ships fires against Libya:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=T1

DanWilson said:
I'm shocked at this.
I mean;
France going to war!?!
What universe did I wake up in!?
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You do know that France has one of the strongest Army in the world with the French Foreign Legion army?

sindrefyrn said:
France has for long been a very powerful country when it comes to their army. It's also one of the five members of the United Nations Security Council.
France and UK are leading the operation.
US ships fires against Libya:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=T1
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France? Powerful? Don't make me lol.
I'm surprised they've not painted their flags white by now.

Dude jokes old man
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muerteman said:
Dude jokes old man
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France are still rather weak.

DanWilson said:
France? Powerful? Don't make me lol.
I'm surprised they've not painted their flags white by now.
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France is ranked 6th here.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/

Total hypocracy.

DanWilson said:
I'm shocked at this.
I mean;
France going to war!?!
What universe did I wake up in!?
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Heh i knew i wouldn't be first.. I jumped at this thread the second i saw french and fighter lol

I find it interesting that France is actually getting involved considering they didn't want to have anything to do with the US' involvement in Iraq...maybe they have some interests of their own in Libya?

No politics.
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