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Tilt Bluetooth audio works on AVIC D3 but not BT phone

having trouble getting my Pioneer AVIC D3 to connect with the bluetooth on my Tilt; the bluetooth audio works just fine, but i cannot make or recieve calls on the Navi system and its pissing me off. i already made sure the device is visible and bluetooth sharing is turned on (idk if i need it on but trying this anyways)
anyone else have a similar problem or a suggestion?

ugh, i want an AVIC so bad. but my truck is only 1.5 din. wold require a custom install

My silly thoughts:
1. Your Tilt doesn't need to be discoverable, you AVIC does.
2. If the AVIC doesn't show under settings-connections-bluetooth, then you haven't created a proper partnership.
3. If it does show there, then you should tap & hold that entry and see if you get "Set Headset" or "Set Handsfree". If you don't then the device isn't reporting a BT profile for phone use to the Tilt.
If you go through all of that and it doesn't work, I'd check with Pioneer for software/firmware upgrades for the AVIC. It may be an issue that they've fixed with updated code.

bump, tried the above with no luck. my sony S710a works fine and this is REALLY pissing me off; i spent almost $500 on the phone and another 1,000 on the damn navi system, if this doesnt work out soon im selling the Tilt and going back to the Sony

It is more of a problem with the pioneer unit rather then the phone. I have the tilt (flashed to htc) and have a problem of auto pairing. Everytime I get in the car I have to turn bluetooth off/on to get the deck (9800bt) to see the phone. This is something pioneer knows about a realesd a patch for the avic z2 (is that right) to fix the problem.
check this place out for more info (sorry don't have a direct link)
http://www.avic411.com/

blackcracker said:
It is more of a problem with the pioneer unit rather then the phone. I have the tilt (flashed to htc) and have a problem of auto pairing. Everytime I get in the car I have to turn bluetooth off/on to get the deck (9800bt) to see the phone. This is something pioneer knows about a realesd a patch for the avic z2 (is that right) to fix the problem.
check this place out for more info (sorry don't have a direct link)
http://www.avic411.com/
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thanks im a member at avic411 as well as here and have had no success thus far; looks like SIM swapping with my Sony S710a is the best i can do. too bad because skipping songs or going thru my playlists via bluetooth is freakin sweet.

yah, i have the avic-d3 and the att/tilt, im so almost about to take the phone back. Even my crappy iphone paired withno issue. Please post if you figure it out.

Sad to see there has been no progress. I just got my new Kaiser, and I can only use it for bluetooth music and not as hands free with Avic D3. What a piss offf!!!!!!!!!!

I believe its a conflict with WM. I have the Pioneer 6800DVD and bt adapter and the same issue with my Treo 750 and Tilt.
I was able to get it to work on my treo using a bt program called jetware. I haven't tried it on my tilt yet. but it might work

I can confirm that the Jetware patch works great with my Tilt! You MUST uncheck bluetooth stereo (on your tilt) and only use the handsfree feature.

Bluetooth Stack problem on Kaiser - automatically re-establishing pair

Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam

adamcullen said:
Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam
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Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx

There is a know problem with the Parrot kit and you will find a thread in this forum where a member has contacted Parrrot who replied that they are addressing the issue.
This one my be usefull.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340908&highlight=parrot

NuShrike said:
Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
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Hi, thanks for that pointer ... most of what is described in that MSDN library isn't in my registry.
Im going to manually insert them all and see what happens.
A

Still no luck
I tried updating the Reg with the tweeks as suggest ... but still no luck. All i get is still the initial pair, but on disconnection, no automatic re-pairing of the device to the car kit.
Im doomed at this stage.

You're not alone. I have the same problem with my Motorola S9 headphones and Microsoft SYNC in my 2008 Ford Edge. Sometimes I have to turn BT on and off a couple of times for it to connect.

agreed
Turning the BT on and off a few times has also be part of my "solution" package.
This really isn't acceptable though. This device should automatically pair up, just like every other BT device does. BT is a protocol that should be adhered to and just work.
I have also tried this on my other WM device. It pairs a little better, but is not great. I've tried compairing the registry values of that device to my Kaiser, but I just dont understand the functionality of the reg settings enough to work out what to change.
Is there some developer out there who can help? This type of problem was experienced by us all back in the early days of the Hermes and this community sorted it out.
Can any developer out there help, like working out a port of the Widcomm BT stack for Kaiser?
a

Interesting. I have a Nokia CK-7W bluetooth car kit and the Tyn II has re-connected/connected to the kit every time. Actually more reliable than my SE K800i. Sorry that it doesn't help you.

Hey Juzzman,
nah, that doesnt help ... but does increase the frustration level!
Seems like you need to have a Nokia component in there somewhere for it to work ;-)
Anyhow, Im still convinced it is a bluetooth stack problem in the Kaiser. I'm going to try flashing one of the AT&T based roms and the other radio version and see what happens.
Cheers
Adam

I've had BT issues with all of my HTC devices, it's very frustrating.
Currently I've got a Kaiser (Orange), E650 (Orange) and a new S730, none of which work on my Pioneer headunit without Jetware.
The Kaiser with Jetware pairs up ok, but the sound is really tinny.
The E650 with Jetware sounds fine, but I can only send 150 contacts to the headunit.
The S730 doesn't pair, haven't put Jetware on it yet.
In the past I've had BT issues with M3100, C600, C500 etc etc.
Why the hell doesn't MS sort out their bloody BT stack!!!

Bluetooth problems
I am having the same problem with my JVC bluetooth unit BT1000. It will pair ok first time, allows me to make 2 calls. Will not the reestablish a connection/pairing. JVC worked fine with my sony erricson and nokia phones. Anyone found a cure to this?

Same problem with the stock AT&T rom (1.27.12.11) with the H700 headset.
Turn bluetooth on it normally sees the headset. If not turn it off and on again to get it to work. Once working it normal looses the connection after an hour or so.

Could it be a BT 2.0 Compliant issue?
I have posted this same problem earlier in xda-deveopers, on htc wiki and aximsite. Many people have viewed and are experiencing this same problem, but no one has posted any solution specific to my problem either. I hope a developer can solve this one for us. Is it a BT stack problem, or a BT 2.0 compliant problem, or a need for an updated ATT ROM to solve this issue? (I currently am using the stock ATT ROM 1.57.. that shipped with my Tilt.)
When I use my Motorola H700 with the Tilt the BT works fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing from the Tilt. Once I use the voice speed dialing directly on the Tilt, the Motorola H700 will no longer connect. I have to do a soft reset or go through the pairing process again. Once I re-establish pairing again, the H700 will continue to work fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing on the Tilt. Then we're back to having to do a soft reset to again establish H700 connection with the Tilt.
NOW, I just received a call back from an HTC tech who told me the problem is likely due to the Motorola H700 being only BT 1.2 compliant. He recommended that I try the Motorola H12, which is BT 2.0 compliant, but he could not absolutely guarantee this would solve my problem.
Does anyone know for SURE that the Motorola H12, being BT 2.0 compliant, will solve my problem? Or is there another solution?
Note: I have tried MS Voice Command 1.6 (full version), but the above problem still occurs. I have also tried Jetware, but again, no go. I am not sure that there is going to be an updated AT&T ROM to solve this issue either.
Additional Note: I have also tried other BT devices, such as the Jawbone, and the Plantronics Voyager. All do exactly the same thing as above.
Anyone have any solution? If the Motorola H12 is the solution, that would be great...
Thanks in advance.

I'm having the same problem with my new carkit. Did anyone ever find a solution to this??

Connecting to bluetooth car kit takes very long!

Hi,
my Diamond works ok with my Parrot bluetooth car kit. The only thing that is really anoying me, it takes veeeery long until the Diamond has established the connection to the car kit. I have to drive for several minutes! until the Diamond connects. Before I had a Sony Ericcson phone where I did not have this problem.
Any ideas? Is this just because the Diamond is a WM phone?? Or is there a way to improve this?
Thanks

I use my diamond with a Parrot CK3300 - not sure if that is the same as yours. I only use it for handsfree since I use the Diamond's own GPS receiver. I don't have this problem - it picks up and pairs within seconds.
Have you flashed the Parrot with the latest software? I found that improved performance considerably - automatic update of contacts, user name on screen rather than phone name etc.

I use the Parrot CK3100 and the pick is almost instant; I've barely got in the car and started it up and the Parrot has picked up my Diamond. It was just as quick on my Hermes device too.

I also have a CK3100 and here's somewhat the same problem.
It connects in a few seconds, and it's usable.
But the synchronisation takes forever.....
That doesn't bother me, becouse I'm quite long in my car when driving to work...
But:
The phonebook in my CK3100 starts with the numbers wich are saved on the SIMcard.
All my friends are saved on the internal memory of the TD.
So if i want to call 'Anouk': I press 'A' on the CK3100.
It starts with the 'A' from the SIMcard.
Then I have to use the turning wheel, to scroll BACKwards to "anouk'!
So this takes a lot of time.... and is very, very unpracticle.
Someone a solution for this?

As I said before flashing the latest software onto my Parrot made it much better for syncing contacts. But I only need do it once - after that it only checks for changes. It should not be syncing each time because the Parrot should store the contacts itself.

Yep, just check the Parrot website to see what the latest update is for your particular BT device and try applying it. Saying that, I've not updated my one from factory.

Unfortunately I was not able to update my Parrot so far. I have only a CK3000 Evolution, Firmware version 5.08C. I guess I would need this special serial flash cable...

@ swissly
i have the same problems fw months ago. you have to delete the partnership's on your CK3000. press the red and the green button for more the 3 sec. (Erasing in progress) if this is done you can create a new partnership. hope that helps.
\\yoshi

swissly said:
Hi,
my Diamond works ok with my Parrot bluetooth car kit. The only thing that is really anoying me, it takes veeeery long until the Diamond has established the connection to the car kit. I have to drive for several minutes! until the Diamond connects. Before I had a Sony Ericcson phone where I did not have this problem.
Any ideas? Is this just because the Diamond is a WM phone?? Or is there a way to improve this?
Thanks
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Hello
For all of you who have a Parrot Bluetooth car kit listen up:
When you use any phone with any Parrot Bluetooth car kits please go to the Parrot support website to flash your car kit - http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/onlinehelpguides
This will update the device with the latest firmware and as Parrot continuly add new phones to their list it is must. I did it as soon as my HTC Diamond arrived and finds it pairs/syncs within 1 - 3 seconds of switching the car on. FYI I have a Parrot MK6100 device, which supports A2DP Bluetooth audio and is mint. Previous to this I had an SPV M700 and a Parrot CK3100-something, but same thing - update it and you will find it solves the problem(s).
- PLEASE HOWEVER READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON FLASHING - IT AIN'T HARD BUT READ IT ANYWAY!!! -

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I still think I CANNOT UPDATE my Parrot CK3000 Evolution WITHOUT THE PARROT SERIAL CABLE!

swissly said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I still think I CANNOT UPDATE my Parrot CK3000 Evolution WITHOUT THE PARROT SERIAL CABLE!
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You are correct AFAIK. Most other Parrots can be updated easily using bluetooth, but not that one. Probably why it was cheaper than the others.

[Q] Bluetooth Carkit Issues :(

Please only repond to this if you have solved carkit issues.
I have a JVC AVX33 headunit with bluetooth, worked perfect on my old SE K800i, however on my diamond it keeps "booting" the bluetooth connection.
Connects for 30 seconds, looses connection, and connects again.
Is there a possible fix for this?
New Bluetooth Stack?
Tweak?
Or an explanation to why this is happening?
It Renders my Diamond useless in my car setup, and this would meen the world to me to have fixed.
Would purchasing a PARROT bluetooth carkit solve the problem?

Do you search the carkit with the phone or vice versa let the carkit search the phone?
I would recommend to test both setups. Do not forget to make your phone visible for the carkit when you want to pair it. Are you able to enter the bluetooth pair code on the phone when requested?

Hi, i have a Pioneer deh-p9800bt with bluetooth handsfree function and the only way to use it with wm6 and 6.1 (Htc Jamin, Gsmart i120 and Gsmart T600) has been to install Jetware HandsFree Extension. With the Gsmarts the Pioneer connects automatically and all works perfectly, with the Diamond the connection must be started every time from the Pioneer, but, then, all works (also battery and signal level): i think that a registry tweak has to be made in order to have an automatic connection.. i will try to see the differences between the registry settings of the i120 and the Diamond..

Yes i tried pairing both ways phone -> headunit and visa versa, and i am able to pair the two devices with code. However it keeps booting the bluetooth, looses connection and then getting it again. About every 30 seconds.
And i tried JETware yesterday without any change, however i am going through the different JETware config add-ons today to see if the result is better.
I think that its when the phone is trying to update the contact list to the headunit, it crashes the bluetooth. Anybody know if it is possible to change the bluetooth stack driver with another? on the HTC Touch Dual i had previous the bluetooth worked just fine.

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Pairing the Bluetooth with Jabrasp700?

Hi All,
I just got a Jabra SP700 after pairing it with my Kaiser everything works fine ( making a call, receiving a call, Playing music through FM radio and TT navi. through the radio). The problem is when I disconnect the devices and turn them both on they will reconnect automatically but I can't hear anything through the SP700 ( FM Radio ). I will have to delete the device from the phone and pair it again in order to make it work.
Is there a better software for managing the bluetooth connections?
Open to any suggestions.
Thanks.

Edris said:
Hi All,
I just got a Jabra SP700 after pairing it with my Kaiser everything works fine ( making a call, receiving a call, Playing music through FM radio and TT navi. through the radio). The problem is when I disconnect the devices and turn them both on they will reconnect automatically but I can't hear anything through the SP700 ( FM Radio ). I will have to delete the device from the phone and pair it again in order to make it work.
Is there a better software for managing the bluetooth connections?
Open to any suggestions.
Thanks.
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I have the same problem with my SP700 and my Tritton BT stereo headset.Phone calls work almost all the time through the SP700 speaker, but playing music or through the FM radio seems to be a problem. I can get them to pair up sometimes by only checking the Wireless Stereo box. It works for a few times, but then I have to delete and re-pair again.
I've searched for all over for answers, but nothing seems to be a permanent fix. It's very frustrating to use my devices for anything else but phone calls.

Just to add a bit of info, I do not have any problems with my old Motorola HS820. Of course, I'm not using SP700.
Hope that helps your troubleshooting.

I have exactly the same problem with hte SP700 connecting to a Touch HD.
I notice there is a software upgrade for the SP700 on the Jabra site but I can't get to apply it because I lack a driver to allow the PC to recognise the JAbra SP 700.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mal

Possible solution
Hi
I have had similar problems with the SP700. I was using the Hyperdragon III before the current ROM (in signature). With my old ROM I found that the following method worked:
1) Turn on the SP700
2) Wait for it to make one low tone
3) Turn bluetooth onto discoverable mode on the phone
4) The device then automatically connects over both Hands Free and Wireless Stereo protocols
5) Turn discoverable off
Now that I have the Hyperdragon IV ROM I notice slightly different behaviour:
1) Turn on the SP700
2) Wait for it to make one low tone
3) Turn bluetooth onto discoverable on the phone
4) The device then automatically connects over hands free protocol
5) Go into bluetooth settings on the phone then the devices tab and manually connect by selecting "Set as Wireless Stereo" from the pop up context menu- this connects over the wireless stereo protocol
6) Turn discoverable off
One thing I do find very annoying about the SP700 is that it disconnects from the Wireless Stereo protocol after a phone call is ended. When this happens I have to manually re-connect it by pushing the button on the SP700 until it peeps.
I too would value a software upgrade for the SP700. I just get the feeling that it has somehow shipped with a beta or incomplete firmware. If anybody knows how to do the firmware upgrade please share this.
Thanks
andrew-in-woking

Found a solution that works for me!
First of all thanks guys for the suggestions !
I think SP700 works fine ( GREAT! ) but the issue is with the A2DP. I found out that A2DP turns on the first time after pairing the devices but it does not turn off. So the next time you pair the devices it is turned on and won't accept the new connection. So what I tried to do was after connecting I turned off A2DP and turned it back on and it works fine.
Suggestion
Search for A2DP Toggle, install it and after pairing the devices if it doesn't work just turn A2DP off and back on.
I assigned the 6th hardware button on my Kaiser (PTT Button) to A2DP Toggle that way I can have access to it all the time.
Works great.

Edris said:
Found a solution that works for me!
First of all thanks guys for the suggestions !
I think SP700 works fine ( GREAT! ) but the issue is with the A2DP. I found out that A2DP turns on the first time after pairing the devices but it does not turn off. So the next time you pair the devices it is turned on and won't accept the new connection. So what I tried to do was after connecting I turned off A2DP and turned it back on and it works fine.
Suggestion
Search for A2DP Toggle, install it and after pairing the devices if it doesn't work just turn A2DP off and back on.
I assigned the 6th hardware button on my Kaiser (PTT Button) to A2DP Toggle that way I can have access to it all the time.
Works great.
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Thanks! Nice App! Tried it with my Tritton BT stereo headset and it works! Had to install to my device instead of Storage card, then had to delete and re-pair, but it so far I can toggle between on and off Stereo Headphones without any problem. Will try on my SP700 shortly.
I attached the Cab if anyone else wants it.
Thank you!
Works with SP 700!!!!!

Mal Bridgeman said:
I have exactly the same problem with hte SP700 connecting to a Touch HD.
I notice there is a software upgrade for the SP700 on the Jabra site but I can't get to apply it because I lack a driver to allow the PC to recognise the JAbra SP 700.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mal
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When the software loads, follow the instructions, do not install with any of the microsoft wizards that pop up, it will install itself. I couldn't find anything that lists what changes that were made.

SP700 Firmware
FYI,
I too had the same issues and downloaded the sp700 firmware update. I thought the same thing about the drivers, but called Jabra and they told me the firmware update has the drivers embedded in it. When you start the install you cannot plug it in till it tells you to. After you plug it in it installs the drivers. But BEWARE I have not been able to complete the upgrade, it stopped halfway and bricked. I called support and they said there is nothing to do, but luckily I bought it from Costco and they returned it. So being not so bright I tried it again but on a different computer (thinking that there might be a conflict) and it didn't even load and bricked it again. So I returned it yet again. So then I gave up on Jabra support and found A2DP toggle. It works good enough, so I am leaving it at that....
Take Care
David
Tilt WM6.1

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi
I have had similar problems with the SP700. I was using the Hyperdragon III before the current ROM (in signature). With my old ROM I found that the following method worked:
1) Turn on the SP700
2) Wait for it to make one low tone
3) Turn bluetooth onto discoverable mode on the phone
4) The device then automatically connects over both Hands Free and Wireless Stereo protocols
5) Turn discoverable off
Now that I have the Hyperdragon IV ROM I notice slightly different behaviour:
1) Turn on the SP700
2) Wait for it to make one low tone
3) Turn bluetooth onto discoverable on the phone
4) The device then automatically connects over hands free protocol
5) Go into bluetooth settings on the phone then the devices tab and manually connect by selecting "Set as Wireless Stereo" from the pop up context menu- this connects over the wireless stereo protocol
6) Turn discoverable off
One thing I do find very annoying about the SP700 is that it disconnects from the Wireless Stereo protocol after a phone call is ended. When this happens I have to manually re-connect it by pushing the button on the SP700 until it peeps.
I too would value a software upgrade for the SP700. I just get the feeling that it has somehow shipped with a beta or incomplete firmware. If anybody knows how to do the firmware upgrade please share this.
Thanks
andrew-in-woking
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I have the exact problem that you are having with the new, Hyperdragon IV, ROM.
Is this A2DP Toggle really the only way - I mean what's the difference between pressing a button on my Kaiser to reconnect and pressing the button on the SP700 ??
I have tried using Mortscript as shown http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382172&highlight=a2dp&page=2 Although I edited the end out because it kills the player after ending a call. This hasn't helped either
I am off to see if the same problems occur with my lady's N96. If not and no good solution can be found for this I may have got her a new present.
Aren't I nice ?!

Found another possible solution, it,s called zoA2DP. So far it works flawlessly between my SP700 & stereo headset without having to toggle anything or change any settings. When you install it, delete your original pairings and add them again, make sure that hands free & wireless stereo are checked in advanced options on you BT settings. I believe this is a registry mod, there are no icons or any noticeable applications running in the backround.
The thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279127
Cab file attached