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Morning XDA world,
just thought I would report on the official XDA2 car kit sold by Tmobile in Germany.
Picked it up last week for 175 Euro's while I was over there.
Fitted it this weekend and it fantastic. As well as the usual connection of power/aerial/microphone, there is also two speaker outputs that can drive external units. A typical carphone speaker came with it so I have connected that and an exisitng one I had in the car.
I can now get my MP3 and TomTom voice commands in Stereo. The mini amp that is in the car kit is only about 12w but I have had to turn the volume down to 25% on the XDA otherwise it is too loud for normal driving. There is also a mute connection for the radio if it is required.
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
thanks in advance.
i ordered mine a few days ago, i hope i have it today for 176 euro
and 6 euro shipping..
here are fotos of the original carkit
http://www.pbase.com/paiko/ppc3
(not mine)
thanks to paiko
Thanks for the pics, I'm looking for a XDA2 car mount and I have to say that this one is the best i've seen so far
SD card slot is blok? have you found that unpractical or you don't change SD cards to often?
anyone know where to source one of these (I am in the UK) ?
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
Hi
Looks very simular to the one that O2 are going to sell in the Q2 04
http://www.xda-2.co.uk/accessories/peripherals.html
I have just ordered this one to use with my soon to arrive TomTom 3, its got extra wire that are not need with blue tooth but would pesume that it does not mater
http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx
steve
Looking for a Car Kit with a Cradle for the Siemens SX56.
I have seen most of the posts for the car kits and they look awesome. They blow away anything else I have found on the net or on EBAY by any means. Now my question is where can I get this same type of car kit for my Siemens SX56 in the USA, ideally Illinois. It seems that everyone that has an awesome car kit is in another country. Any help is appreciated.
Ideally the car kit would have a drop in fitting for the PDA. It should allow a clean fitted installation, which wouldn’t show any wiring and also allow me to integrate my PDA through my car speakers. It should have an external microphone that I can add in a clean fashion so I can use it to make calls and received them. Ideally the same kit like the car kits for standard cell phones only for a Siemens SX56 PDA.
You help is greatly appreciated!
akira said:
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
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Sorry I cannot read German and I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link to the actual page for the unit?
Ed
This looks really interesting, but I'm afraid my German is not too good. I guess that those of you who've bought one of these can understand the language better than me - so could someone please explain the difference between these:
Car BasicSet für MDA II [€170]
CarKit II [€200] (this appears to be the one in the photos above)
Navigate StarterSet für MDA II [€170]
NaviGate Car Kit Pro MDA II [€250]
I guess that the NaviGate kits include T-Mobile's (proprietary?) navigation solution, but it is interesting that the CarKit II also appears to include a connection for NaviGate. I presume, therefore, that all of the above kits present some sort of interface that any GPS receiver could connect to - but it would be greatly appreciated if someone could confirm what the interface is (RS232, PS/2, etc.)? I suppose detailed photos or installation guides would be helpful here.
Basically, I would like a cradle for my XDA2 that:
- outputs all audio through the car's speakers, muting the radio;
- provides for an external antenna; and
- connects to a (wired) GPS receiver suitable for use with TomTom3.
Maybe I'm too demanding! Is this asking for the world on a plate? I would've thought it was a fairly standard set of requirements... :?
Okay, so maybe I'm not being so demanding after all... according to http://www.my-xda.com/carkit.html :
"the Xda II carkit supports direct connection of a GPS unit - such as that provide [sic] by TomTom Navigator" (as far as I can tell, this implies that there is an RJ45 connector carrying both data and power; for the real techies, does anyone know whether the power is at 5V or 12V?)
I imagine that the kit they're referring to is identical to the T-Mobile CarKit II, which seems to be what you guys bought from Germany - in which case, is there really a spare RJ45 socket lying around for a GPS receiver? I can't get anyone at O2 to understand what I'm talking about (they don't even seem to be aware that such a car kit exists).
Exciting stuff. :?
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
Ed
ednap said:
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
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Well, the third paragraph says: "These carkit's are especially designed to fit Xda and Xda II respectively", which implies a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
nickety said:
a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
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I've just spoken to O2 - they're expecting it to be available from about 2-3 weeks' time, and it will be priced at £189. I've just pre-ordered one over the telephone (0800 389 4516).
Expansys like Carkit
Hi all,
just to tell you all it will be available at the end of May (I hope) here in Portugal a complete Carkit for the XDA2 (Carkit Pro) just like the one at expansys.com for around 155€ directly from the national distributor.
I'll tell you more as soon as i get more info on this.
Expensive from O2
I just spoke to the people in the two O2 shops in nottingham and both of them told me that the XDA II Car kit is available, but they have to order it in. They said the cost is £150 plus £99 fitting charge, and they'll only let you have one if they can fit it. Has anyone else found this or is it just O2 Nottingham being greedy?
The O2 accessories phone line told me that the kit required fitting, but that I'd have to arrange that myself.
Oh
OK. Seems like O2. hey're a bit poo for information here in Notts.
Has anyone, looked into making a cable to connect the XDA/XDA II to a car stereo? I've not got a stereo at the moment to test with but I assume that they have a standard layout of pins on the ack or something for phone inputs?
Anyone who knows a fair bit about car stereos and fitting phones to them can you leave me some extra info?
Also, with regards to the XDA I and II, do they have any reason why the same cable wouldn't want to be used for the two different phones? I've got a I and am thinking of getting a II but don't want to faff about with a cable for one and then find it's useless when I upgrade.
Will
That's the way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4348&highlight=connectors
Bit of searching and I found this. Any extra info still welcome.
Hello again all,
Pegasus said:
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
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I am by no means an audio expert, but have had a little Google around since this is exactly what I would like to do myself.
I found a reply to someone else's similar question about connecting two different audio sources/amps in their bedroom to the same speakers. It seems that it's not a good idea.
I then found an automatic selector switch which runs on 12VDC. I think that you can connect your radio speaker outputs to the "AMP A" input and the Xda II carkit to "AMP B", thereby giving priority to the Xda II whenever it's trying to do something. Chop the mains plug off and you should be able to hook it up to the car's switched/accessory power supply.
I hope that helps.
Whilst I'm posting in this thread (again :wink, can someone please confirm what this carkit provides for connecting to GPS receivers? This photo that akira posted is very helpful, but it doesn't show clearly enough what type of connector #13 is... hopefully it's an RJ11 that will directly work with the TomTom wired receiver - can anyone confirm? If not, is there any chance of an exact description, or close-up photo with pinouts (perhaps this is in the accompanying documentation)?
Thanks!
The connection on the Car kit Akira mentioned is RJ11 for the GPS reciever. Unfortunately my GPS reciever is PS2.
I looking for an cable adapter from PS2 to RJ11. Any one can help?
Hi all
I bought my phone yesterday and it arrived at 8:50am this morning!
very happy with it so far (although having problems with wifi internet access) :evil:
Anyhow, I don't want to break any forum rules (so if you're an admin and this IS breaking the rules, please remove it and I'll find out that way).
I looked around for a good deal and the above was VERY good compared to everywhere else.
Not sure if this is old news to everyone on here but if it's not and you want the details (and it's not againt forum rules) let me know and I'll post the details of where I got it from.
Please note that I am a CUSTOMER and am in now way affiliated with the company from whome I bought the phone...or the network either!
Cheers
Wayne
That sounds like buymobilephones.net to me. They've go the same good offer too.
Although if your a very light user this is tosh at GBP439.99 a year inc phone.
Where as O2's O2 leisure time plus with 100 texts + Promo 12mths for GBP20 a month and GBP99.99 for the phone is alot cheaper option for GBP339.99
Guess what i went for and I'm still using my old Genie SIM.
yep, that's where I got it.
Not sure where u got ya figures from though...as I'll be downgrading my tarriff asap - and I didn't have to shell out £99 for the handset
Each to their own though
Cheers
Wayne
If you look on their site you'll see other tarriff's where the cost of the phone increases when your monthly bill decreases.
35(line rental) x 12(months) = 420 + 19.99(phone) = 439.99(TOTAL)
or
20(line rental) x 12(months) = 240 + 99.99(phone) = 339.99(TOTAL)
You have to be careful as some tarriff's can not be downgraded no matter how much pleading you do.
Not this tarriff.
Take a read on the FAQ section followed by the TnC's for both BuyMobilePhones.net and O2
Cheers
Wayne
This may sound like a stupid question but is there any diff between QTEC 2020i and XDA IIi? Spec wise they look identical is it just branding?
Also the Himalaya forum description suggests that the O2 XDA IIi is an updated Himalya called Andes however the Alpine forum description also suggests the XDA IIi is an alpine. Which is accurate and is the XDA IIi seen as an improved Himalya? If so is it a matter of time before the Alpine will have WM 2005?
Sorry to bombard you with questions I am just in the middle of deciding what to buy and the QTEC is favourite if the spec is the same as O2 XDA IIi.
TIA,
JamieT
The QTEK 2020i is the XDA IIi, the only different being the firmware, which you can change to the XDA IIi or I-mate PDA2 versions.
If you get the Qtek 2020i I do recommend you to upgrade it ASAP.
Other than that the only noticeable difference is the writing on the unit and the leather pouch.
Hope that helps you JamieT.
symondavis said:
The QTEK 2020i is the XDA IIi, the only different being the firmware, which you can change to the XDA IIi or I-mate PDA2 versions.
If you get the Qtek 2020i I do recommend you to upgrade it ASAP.
Other than that the only noticeable difference is the writing on the unit and the leather pouch.
Hope that helps you JamieT.
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Why upgrade it?
I've been running on the standard firmware since I got the phone a week ago and I've had no noticeable problems with calls, general functions or BT (using Sony Ericsson HTH-600 headset).
Apart from that, I would know where to start with upgrading...roms, radios...it's all gobble-di-gook to me
Cheers
Wayne
I found mine to be unstable, but then again mine is a month and a half or so older than yours so they may have updated yours at production.
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll be ordering a QTEC. WRT upgrading I noticed that buymobilephones.net had posted some qtec rom upgrades as free to all, do you mean that typw of flash upgrade?
Just another quick question? Is the QTEC / XDA IIi seen as an upgrade to the Himalaya (XDA II) as the sales guy (and O2 website) says it is better spec. But when asking about upgrading an XDA IIi to WM2005 using th Himalaya instructions one reply back implied the XDA IIi is inferior (the comment went along the lines of putting a Lambourghini engine - WM 2005 into a Jaguar).
Does anyone know if someone is working on a WM 2005 rom upgrade for the XDA IIi QTEC 2020i. I guess I should wait until it is out of warranty before I attempt this anyway so I can probably wait a while.
TIA,
JamieT
As far as I know WM'05 is not possible yet for XDAIIi/2020i/PDA2
jamiet said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll be ordering a QTEC. WRT upgrading I noticed that buymobilephones.net had posted some qtec rom upgrades as free to all, do you mean that typw of flash upgrade?
Just another quick question? Is the QTEC / XDA IIi seen as an upgrade to the Himalaya (XDA II) as the sales guy (and O2 website) says it is better spec. But when asking about upgrading an XDA IIi to WM2005 using th Himalaya instructions one reply back implied the XDA IIi is inferior (the comment went along the lines of putting a Lambourghini engine - WM 2005 into a Jaguar).
Does anyone know if someone is working on a WM 2005 rom upgrade for the XDA IIi QTEC 2020i. I guess I should wait until it is out of warranty before I attempt this anyway so I can probably wait a while.
TIA,
JamieT
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Can anyone tell me WHERE I can get the QTek ROM upgrades from? I bought my 2020i from buymobilephones.net but can't find a link to the upgrades anywhere
Cheers
Wayne
i was looking around the net for info regarding the Windows Mobile 2005 on the XDA2i - PDA2 etc.
As i have a XDA2i i emailed O2 asking them if the have any plans for Windows 2005 for their XDA2i ...here is what they wrote back
Hello,
Thank you for your email,
O2 are not planning to release WM 2005 for the XDA 2i or under, only newer devices such as the XDA Exec and future models.
If you did change the operating system of the XDA 2i this would void the warranty with O2.
Regards,
Paul
O2 Data Support UK
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:shock: :?: :shock: :?:
What do people think?????
RE: Letter from 02
The usual crappy answer from 02. I just send them an email every now and again to ask for wm2005 upgrade, never get an answer. Thats probably because 02 are money grabbing idiots who don't know anything about looking after the customers. Their support is terrible need I go on.............. Maybe if they get some decent management this will change, don't hold your breath! :lol:
yeah i got the same reply
as far as i'm concerned they should at lest supply us with a decent rom upgrade
I emailed them a while ago with some stats from the petition i setup and i still have not recived any reply from them either way.
I know companies have to make money but i really think the XDA2i should have a WM2005 operating system, but such is life ... will be the last contract i take out with O2 not just for the ROM situ but i dont think their signal is as god as Vodaphone ....
Hi;
I have been searching for a good pda to buy but haven't decided which one to buy yet.
I was more likely to buy a xda2i but then I read some of the posts here and got the feeling that most of the users are not satisfied with the xda2i.
Do you recommend me buy a xda2i or do you think imate pda2k is better?
Since xda2i and imate pda2k are very expensive in Turkey ,I really would like to hear your objective suggestions&comments on both xda2i and imate pda2k.
I really need that info before deciding which yo choose.
Thx
Melih Cavli
I just purchased an SPV M1500. Is this the same as the XDA IIi? I bought it already unlocked. Are there any differences in the ROM besides splash screens / logos? Is there a way to put the O2 XDA IIi ROM on this device?
Last question... I bought it from someone in the UK, and I live in the US, I currently subscribe to Cingular Wireless. Has anyone had issues with this?
Any reply would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brock
Same device, slightly different looks.
All Alpine ROMs will work and the splash images etc can all be changed, at ROM upgrade or later. Find a ROM you want and follow instructions.
The device is tri-band so long as you live in an area where you don't need quad band you'll be OK.
Any more questions, there are plenty of people here to ask, just don't ask the dreaded WM5 question, the answer will be NO.
Good luck.
LOL!! I got that loud and clear. I thought people were supposed to be reading through the forum for their answer before posting stupid/redundant questions??? NO WM5, at least yet. I don't have a desire for that right now anyways. What would be the benefit?
The earth is so small. You know what, you have bought the phone from me on ebay, Brock Miller. Have you received the phone yet? I could give you help on upgrading the phone, if you needed it. At the moment, if you wanted the latest rom, then it is imate PDA2 ROM.
Nam? Oh my gosh!!! I can't believe you frequent this site as well? Wow... Thats cool. It is indeed a small world. No I haven't received the SPV-1500 yet, I was just asking a few questions about it before hand. I can't wait to get it though. I'll drop you an e-mail when it comes in. Have a good one!
It's nice to meet you here as well. The phone will arrive very soon. Keep the eyes on your work place, you will need to sign for it. Give me a sound when you need helps and have fun with the phone.
Yes! It was.
Will I personally have to sign for it? Or can my shipping department sign for it?
Also, what phone do you have now?
as long as you could arrange someone to sign for it, then that's fine. I think I just buy a cheap phone for now, untill the new HTC Muse comes out. This would be the best phone ever.
Except for the 4GB of storage, and the camera it looks like the HTC Universal has better specs. Why the muse? I really would have liked to have bought an HTC Universal, but I couldn't find any that were reasonably priced, .
Simply, because it is very compact, has everything that I wanted. I originally had the VPA compact which is HTC Magician, but it doesn't have wifi built in that why I sold it. I also did have HTC Universal ( SPV M5000 ) once and I do not advice you to get one. No only because of the price ( I got it for £250 ), it is also very very slow ( before buy it, I thought it would be very fast, but it's not, even slower than HTC wizard ) and bloody massive. I had it for one day and sold it the next day, you can imagine how dissapointed I was.
The only good thing about the HTC Universal is the infrared transfer speed ( 4mb/s ) and range ( 7 metres ) which is good for TV remote control softwares. However, that is not good enough for the price.
Wow, that would be very diappointing. What did you not like about the HTC Alpine? Too bulky also?
The HTC Alpine is not as big as the HTC Universal and HTC Blue Angle ( actually it is quite compact for such a powerful device ), has wifi built in, powerful processor ( don't be confused with the Intel PXA 270 520MHZ of HTC Universal, it is Intel PXA 272 520MHZ ) and better bluetooth than other HTC device ( support file transfer service and more ). The only thing that I do not like about it is that the infared range is too short ( 70 cm ) for Remote control programs which is the same on other HTC devices, except for the HTC Universal ( 7 metres ) and HTC magian ( 3 metres ) ( that's why I sold it ). But if you can live with it, then the HTC Alpine is the best Mobile Phone/Pocket PC to have at the moment in term of features and price.
I just received the SPV M1500!! Even though you tried, the power adapters that you sent were the wrong kind. The U.S. uses 110 V. Also, all looks ok, but it showed more wear than I thought it would. There was a scratch on the screen, a tiny crack just above the "joystick" hole, and the external antenna port hole cap is missing (not a huge deal, just doesn't look as good with out it). Do you know if TomTom has a US map available to buy?
As my description the phone is used. I am so sorry, if it dissapointed you. TOMTOM and USA map are already included on the DVD, just follow the installation guide that is also in the in the box. Let me know anything that I could help you with. I will try to find the cover at the back for you, if I could not find it, then I would refund you some money, so you could get a new silicon case for it. Really sorry.
No way!! No this is fine. Its still a very nice phone. If you can find the cover, that would be nice, but I don't expect a refund by any means. I still got a good price. I need to find an AC adapter for this cradle though. I imagine that won't be too hard to come by, I just hope it doesn't cost too terribly much. Thanks again for the phone. I am overall pleased. It is so much better than my Wallaby. Also, I can charge it in the wallaby cradle for now. I was lucky, it fits, not quite right, but good enough. Thanks again. Also, I see where there is indeed USA maps with TomTom included. Sorry about that.
Brock
Or can I just send you some softwares in return? Just name the softwares, I will find them for you. I am now selling some softwares for pocket pc on ebay, just take a look, if you like them, let me know I will send them to you. Also I just find out that if you installed Imate PDA2 ROM UPDATE, the infrared range will be incresed to about 3 metres. If you was not so sure how to install ROM UPDATE, let me know, I will give you the web link with installation guide.
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
All HTC Alpine devices have the same hardwares. Therefore, it is possible to change ROM between different made like Imate, Qtek, Orange, etc. However, you must follow some steps to avoid Country ID error.