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T-Mobile UK Blackberry and Radio Upgrades

Has anyone with the current T-Mobile Shipped Rom, using the BB client updated to a higher radio/bluetooth version. If so, has it had an effect upon the BB client? If I recall correctly the BB client was shipped with 1.06 in Germany?
I would like to upgrade to 1.12 &3900 but afraid to do so.
Any help appreciated. Thanks

I called T-mobile and they sent me a disk with a ROM update that included Blackberry (Instant e-mail).
I installed the update, which ends with a hard re-set.
then I restored the MDA from a full Active sync backup. this of course overwrote the Blackberry app!
Then I unlocked the extended ROM using tools from this site. Then I ran the auto installer in extended rom and the Blackberry stuff was re-installed.
Then rang t-mobile and added Instant e-mail for £10 a month. Works well.

Got the T-Mobile BB upgrade, and got my account activated 4 weeks ago (radio is version 1.0, BT is 3500).
Got the BB service up and running, but when I tried to upgrade the radio stack to 1.10, everything worked fine on the phone side, but BB stopped working.
Contacted T-Mobile CS who tried to help me get it work, said everything was fine their end and even tried many options to make it work - In this particular instance I can honestly say that I have never had better customer service. At the start of the call, they offered to call me back right away (which they actually did) and the call lasted over an hour. Eventually we concluded that it must be a problem with the radio stack.
I re-installed from the T-Mobile 'upgrade' back down to radio 1.0 and everything worked fine 'straight out of the box'.
All the BB settings and data are stored in the storage area on the MDAIII, so hard resets do not mean loss of data and you don't have to reconfigure the BB client at all.
I haven't had the time to try any other radio stacks yet, but would be interested to hear anyone else's experiences.

Has anyone managed to extract the BB client from the T-Mobile UK ROM yet? If so, would someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction?
Also, has anyone managed to get it working with another operator (specifically Vodafone)
Thanks!!

T - Mobile Blackbery and Radio 1.06
Xda-Rocks
Did you manage to try BB with the 1.06 Rom on the FTP site. I am making an assumption that it should work as Germany released BB client with 1.06, but we all know what assuming does....
I am hoping that someone more expert than me will act as guinea pig :?:
Thanks J

The version I am using is
MDA3_TMUK_v106160_SHIP0307.exe
It works fine for me. I am using the t-mobile instant email account and it is also polling my standard pop3 account. I don't have a BES.

T-Mobile BB with Radio ROM 1.06 and upwards
OOPs apologies I wasn't very clear in my last post. What I was referring to is whether you have upgraded the Radio ROM from version 1.0 which is the one contained within the 1.06 BB Rom.
I am running BB fine on my device as well with the updated ROM. The problem, as ever, is the bluetooth range and quality. I believe that 1.06 is supposed to be a significant improvement over 1.0, even if 1.08/1.10 or 1.12 cannot be used.

Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for the tip. I'll upgrade to 106 asap and give it a try.

Jiggy - Sorry I took so long to reply, but I've been busy. Finally got round to installing 1.06 Rom on the FTP site and BB works. Thanks for the suggestion.

BB with Radio 1.06 and BT3900??
XDA Rocks - thanks for the response now I will give it a try
Have you upgraded the stack to 3900 in addition to the 1.06 upgrade?
I just wondered whether this will affect the BB.
Thanks J

T-mobile Blackberry
Gentlemen - many thanks for all the feedback and especially MDAIIIUSER for all the guidance.
Got slightly carried away and went the whole hog!
MDA III on UK T-mobile
Flashed with 1.40 ROM, 1.12 Radio and BA_ERK_13 (from 1.22 kitchen)
+BT 3900
Everything worked well and the bluetooth may have been marginally better.
However could not get the blackberry client to work. Using instant email - the system would log on and then drop out without registering. (Similar probs in other threads). Again Tmobile customer service were exemplary and we tried everything - finally resetting back down to 1.06 ROM, 1.00 Radio and 1.06 Ext ROM. Now it all works again!
Therefore I'm assuming it's the radio that's the problem and that 1.12 does not work with BB. When feelinfg brave again will upgrade the radio to 1.06 and the Ext ROM to BA_ERK_13. Is the consensus opinion that this is sensible and should I be able to get away with the main ROM upgrade to 1.40? Anyone else tried any other combinations that allow BB to work?
regards
sanjay_gasman

sanjay_gasman
Not sure if I read what you wrote correct or if you obmited some info.
Anyway If you used the ERK_122_013, in its full then you also upgraded patches like BT that are part of the 1.40.
You need to only use the customizing files and the ERK_140_Base files
As for the BB, you need to read the thread on that, think it went along the lines that only the 1.06 radio worked.

Re: BB with Radio 1.06 and BT3900??
Jiggy said:
XDA Rocks - thanks for the response now I will give it a try
Have you upgraded the stack to 3900 in addition to the 1.06 upgrade?
I just wondered whether this will affect the BB.
Thanks J
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Yes, upgraded to 3900 and BB works fine - BT still crackles though.

Radio 1.06
xda
Sorry to be a pain but could you PM me with the link or send me the 1.06 radio upgrade file. I couldn't find it on wiki (lowest I could find was 1.08).
Do you think it is worthwhile upgrading in terms of the quality and range of the bt (I note your comment that it is still crackling :evil: ). Hopefully you have noticed some improvement?
Thanks again
Jase

Jiggy,
I found the radio rom on the ftp site in
/BlueAngel/Radio_Roms
I have upgraded to 1.06 and BT3900 and personally haven't noticed any improvement using Jabra 200 and Bluespoon AX headsets

T-mobile Blackberry
MDAIIIUSER
Many thanks again.
Just confirming but if I understand correctly - the best that we can hope for on our UK MDA IIIs at present is: (with Blackberry working)
ROM 1.06
Radio 1.06
Ext ROM 1.40 cooked (customised as required)
Is this correct?
regards
sanjay_gasman

What is the best ROm for Qtek 9100/K-JAM

Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.

esfjrg1 said:
Hello everybody,
Could you please tell me what is the best ROM for my qtek 9100? I am crazy !!!!! I am not able to know it?
Thank you in advance.
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Define "best" for us and I'm sure you'll get many suggestions.
If you are looking for Direct Push mail, either of the released AKU2 ROMs will work fine. Who's your carrier?

The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.

indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
Anup

araje said:
indiekiduk said:
The new i-mate one works great for me!
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4983.html
Note I havnt tried the new Qtek one yet:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/5026.html
I believe only Qtek and I-mate have released the new push email roms.
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Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
Anup
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.

huangyz said:
araje said:
Great, I have been waiting for this link for ever. However, I have one question. If I flash to the updated ROM on Qtek9100 or Kjam for that matter, how easy/difficult/impossible it is to go back to the previous ROM.
Is there a way to create a one file EXE of the original ROM like the updated ROM ?
I am just throwing shots here. Can someone give me some info please.
Anup
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it's a long story to tell.
i suggest you search "rom backup" herein and collect all that you need.
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Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks

araje said:
Thanks huangyz for your reply. My question was very generic since I was still in the deciding stage at that time. I have just finalized my order for Qtek 9100 today. Are you using the updated PushEmail ROM for Qtek ? Hows your experience on the stability. When I spoke to the store guys, 2 of them told me that this version is still unstable. Hows your experience been.
Thanks
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yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
as a reference, i

hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.

Just to endorse Huangyz comments, I'm running the new QTEK 2.17.7.2 ROM as well and it's very very stable (I use the OMAP at 240 as well). Am using the SPB Pocket Plus on it with no issues - can't remember the last time it was hanging needing soft reset. For some odd reason I also no longer have issues with Activesync failing every few synchs but that may be unrelated.

you are probably right with it being unrelated. for me I haven't been having AS issues even with the dopod shipped ROM or the Qtek Test ROM. Can you shed some light on performance without Overclocking or would you say that overclocking is a must [I am not sure if I am ready to trade off the device's uptime for a slight increase in performance]. With the Test ROM when I listen to MP3s using BT A2DP and then try to do something else [i.e. compose an sms or type a short note/document]... the device becomes slow as a snail and it is very annoying...

huangyz said:
yes,im using the newest 2.17.7.2wwe rom,it's really stable and fast , even with the omapclock set to 240MHz. my Qtek9100 has been running for several days without a restart . think this would be the contribution of the AKU2 thing.
i don't use pushemail, so, no suggest about it.
another thing i must say is that by now i have only the SPB-GPRS-Monitor plugging installed, no other Today-Addons. 'cause i need to confirm which PPC utilities would have a conflict against this new rom. I am planning to install Resco-Explorer this weekend.
Hope this could help you.
as a reference, i
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Hi,
I have heard alot about omapclock and about overclocking the device. I know that it shouldnt be overclocked beyond a specific limit as it may make the device unstable. But, forgive me, I had a very basic question here. What does this omapclock do ? I know it can speed up the device but it will always be at the cost of something isnt it ? So whats the trade-off here.

Hi to all, here goes my First post
Greetings from sunny Europe..
That be one..
As far as Omap. It does exactly to Wizard what overclocking front bus to CPU in PC.
Increases clock frequency that controls the cpu/ and possibly memory.
I am not programmer of this software (omap), but usually a several settings are connected together, like speed of cpu, memory, and possibly of some other subsystem like GPU (graphic card in wizard)
BTW Thanks to guys that made omap, great piece.. i am succesfully using it and clock of 240 is where i start
My current machine(wizard) is SPV M3000 From Orange on latest official Qteq rom.
i have all kinds of observations about it, (both phone and rom) but for now i'll keep it to myself as they ALL (i guess) come from my craze od d/l stuff and installing on my wizard with no brains at all
Thus far (getting back to tradeoffs and performance..)
O/C with omap is a necessity if u want to listen to high quality mp3 and be able to use anything else on wizard.
my experienc is that using pocket music (great mp3 player) with high bit rate mp3 heavy eq applied, completely freezes any action and reaction on wiz. and even turning down volume can take about 5 to 10 seconds after pressing touchscreen..
with omap applied cpu usage drops to around 70% and it behaves ok.
As far as uptime.. i have noticed no difference even with HEAVY overclock.
most battery consuming i think is: 1. WiFi, 2. loud music with high bitrate mp3 and built in speakers, 3. BT, or brightness turned on all the time(no screen saver) .. whatever the rest may be..
So if i am not mistaken cpu in wizard have 2 cores, one for DSP and phone processing, the other one for OS WM5. now i am thinking.. dynamic allocation of unused phone core to main processing power..for the os.?
Mmm 400 mhz for my wizard.. Me likin' it
..that's as far as my dreams go..
Greetings to all and i hope this place stays as cool and essential for all of us.. 4evA

bnycastro said:
hi there huangyz!
Did you ever try the Qtek Test ROM 2.8.7.1 WWE before going to 2.17.7.2 ? Would you say 2.17 performs better [without Overclocking] than 2.8? I loaded 2.8 because I wanted A2DP for BT and as I understand it 2.17 does not have A2DP, I won't be using Push E-Mail. So I am deciding if I should flash to 2.17 or stay with 2.8 and wait for another ROM.
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sure, i try 2.8.7.1WWE-Test for nearly 2weeks. I took no advantage of A2DP because i rarely listen mp3s using my qtek.
i have no impression on this test rom now, except that i had to reset at least once per day.

Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I go with the 2.17 ROM can I downgrade to 2.8.7.1?

Ivan Speed with Radio Downgrade

Hello everyone!
I wanted to let everyone know that I definately appreciate the effort put forth to get Blue Angels to run W2K5.
Ivan 4.0 thus far had the best results for my Siemens SX66 w/ out camera. I was running Ivan with Radio 1.15.
I have kept up with Mamaich's updates and decided to downgrade my radio back to 1.12 to see if there would be any sounds improvements. I noticed right away that the speed of the device improved dramatically especially regarding actual rings from when callers call me. When callers call me, it doesn't just sit there and show me and ring on the third ring but it really does ring on the first time the call routes through. NO DELAY!
Also, when placing calls and answering calls, i noticed a dramatic upgrade in speed.
I wanted to also thank everyone involved in making a base rom.
I had a request to really find out how to integrate my software into the rom directly thus improving the available space on my phone. Extended rom is showing but I didn't know how to use it.
I also installed items into the SD card without any problems but if there is a link of something i can read to learn how to preinstall certain cab files and software, i would appreciate it.
Thanks everyone! Let me know if other radio editions improve call handling!

Hi there!
For the last few days, I keep on saying the same thing: radio version 1.15 has problems with WM5. See post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48215&start=75 so I have downgraded to radio version 1.13. Have you tried radio version 1.13 vs 1.12? I haven't seen any difference between 1.12 and 1.13 (using European networks). I'd like to have your report if possible. Thank you.

well ive been using radio 1.13 since ever..never upgraded..my OS , details are in my signature...but yes ive got the call delay..around 2-3 seconds..
otherwise calling too is decent..not too fast as baeshin has said..maybe i will try downgrading to 1.12 and see the difference

i also use sx66, can you tell me where i could get 1.12 radio rom? thx!

I guess I would like this older Radio too... could not hurt to much to try it out.

the files should be on the ftp. i tried to downgrade to 1.13 but i don't think it was meant for siemens sx66. i recall reading somewhere that it was for another device.

1.12 radio rom can be found in 1.40 WM2003SE ROM

Newbie......want most stable 2003SE for QTEK 9090

At the moment I hate my 1 week old QTEK 9090.
To enable GPRS I normally have to reboot.
Sometimes to get Wifi and BT working I have to reboot.
GPRS drops out during a phone call
Sometimes I have to reboot when there is no sound at all on the device. Just no sound at all.
I have had it a week. Probably had to reboot it at least 3 times a day and the reboot is LONG!
Wow such a good concept let down by a HUGE number of bugs

What version rom and radio does your 9090 use? (start menu>settings>device information)
check here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
for latest official rom release by your phones manufacturer. Possibly an upgrade is beneficial! Either that, or your phone may have hardware issues. Check your service provider for repair/rma services.
Good luck!

Thanks for that.
I will check. One issue I have a work around for....
I only lose sound when I close down Windows Media Player before I stop the music. Stop it first and then close and all is fine. That is a start.
I wish the ROM upgrades were simpler like on my Treo 650.....upgrade does a backup, flashes the new ROM and then brings back the data....

I found my device and rom on that link ta. So does that mean I have the latets for my device....
This is exactly my 9090:
Qtek WWE OP ID 1.40.00 1.40.147 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
So I must have the latest ROM for my device...ripper.

Rom
Yeah you have the latest rom. when i 1st got my qtek i had some strange issues as well. what i ended up doing was to install a different rom (downgrade) and then install back to my rom (latest version). Hey presto my pda was running much smother.
Take your time to read all the info on the forum and most of all read wiki!! It takes some time to get used to wm2003se if your switching from palm. Have fun!!!

Thanks.
I have used many PPC devices as well. Last one was AXIM X50V. Before that was IPAQ 2210, IPAQ 1930.......
From the 2210 onwards everything was nice and stable.
Just this device.....!!
If I could get it to reliably start up GPRS and wireless every time I would be fine. BT is not such an issue.
Now I have solved my sound problem that is excellent.

good bye wm2003se
I will be really honest with you!!! when i was using my pda with wm2003se i had to soft reset my device 5-6 times a day....wifi being the biggest problem. needles to say it was critical to have a good backup software (Sprite). after being really frustrated i found this site....(thanks god)....know i use wm5 and guess what after 8 weeks i have not had to soft reset my device once. wm5 at the moment is not perfect but for me its stable and quick enough.

Cool....so moving my QTEK 9090 to WM5 what should I look out for? What are the issues? Will I get anything else? Lose anything?
Stability is 100% key for, but in terms of features, WM2003SE has everything i need. It just doesn't work all of the time.
What WM5 ROM do you recommend?

Oops I see Ivan....got a link?
So what is the best procedure to do the backup?
Can I easily go back to the original ROM?

Ivan 4.3
it really depends how you use your pda and what kind of functionality you want. for me speed and stability are essential. i dont use blue tooth to much just to transfer data...(no headset). as all users of wm5 will tell you there are pros and cons with each wm5 rom. my advice is to read the forums and pick a version that best suits your needs. in any case you will have to do some hacks to really bring the best out of your device on wm5. see my sig for what i have installed.
forgot to answer your question. to downgrade your device is much easier than to upgrade. before you go down this road please READ wiki carefully!!!

AKU 3.2 Molski / Faria Missed Call Problem Fixed

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Originally Posted by vippie
Had the problem too with 2.25.11 and 2.47.11 on T-Mobile NL. However my problem disappeared when I downgraded my radio rom to 2.19.11 that came from the T-Mobile dutch site. Running for more than 3 weeks without a missed call.
I've uploaded the radio rom only file here
Thanks - I've gone down to 02.19.11 from 2.47.11 because of the missed call problem. Will test for a week or so and let everyone know how it works out.

Finally a fix for U.S. users
The underlying problem was the newer radio stacks. The 2.19 Radio is on the FTP site under wizard rom;s tmobile. I can't take credit as see previous post, but thought it deserved it's own thread.
I can confirm it fixed the missed call problem U.S. Cingular 8125 on Cingular network. Overclock to 240 mhz and voicecommand 1.6 and wow smoking fast phone and bluetooth headset seems to work better!

I can't install that Radio Rom. It is in Italian and gives me some sort of error. Got an English or WWE copy by any chance? THanks for the tip!

vettejock99 said:
I can't install that Radio Rom. It is in Italian and gives me some sort of error. Got an English or WWE copy by any chance? THanks for the tip!
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How about sharing the source of the English version?????

The version I posted works on G3 and G4. Don't think there's an English installer yet for G4 devices. Just click avanti (next) until it flashes the radio rom.
Nice to see that 2.19.11 also works for the Cingular users!
A link to the file here!

This is VERY interesting! I had to drop Faria's 3.2 ROM because of this issue, even though it's been my favorite ROM so far. Has it had any affect on the battery drain? That was one of the other issues I contended with, however not near as big a concern as the calls/msgs not getting through. I'm looking forward to giving this another try.

FWIW, that is the Radio ROM I had, and this morning it installed fine. Maybe it had to do a couple of soft resets first. Anyway, I am hoping you nailed this one because I too like the Faria ROM best (and I also had the battery drain issue with it).

English Installer for the Dutch 2.19.11 Radio Rom.
Guys, i repackaged the Dutch T-mobile 2.19.11 Radio Rom with an English Installer. Go to this thread:
Wizard Radio Rom Only Updaters
It should work with both G3 and G4 chipsets as I used the same installer that is included in the other packages.
Enjoy...

Thanks, Kyphur - I'm right in the middle of reinstalling Faria's 3.2. This will make the radio update even easier.

Thanks, Kyphur! Now will one of you guys with Faria's 3.2 send it to me, because I can't find my copy and it has been pulled...argh....

vettejock99 said:
Thanks, Kyphur! Now will one of you guys with Faria's 3.2 send it to me, because I can't find my copy and it has been pulled...argh....
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Ok, now I can confirm no more missed calls Molski and faria 3.2 is now a definite go. So Molski, fario please put your 3.2 roms back but with radio 2.19
Thanks folks

How is the signal with this Radio? The whole reason I went to the 2.47.11 is for better reception in areas where I had little to none. Has anyone really noticed a difference?

This was a great find, thanks. Now I can go back to the 3.2 roms I had to swear off because...well...if the phone doesn't work for phone calls, it's a doorstop.

peraltah said:
How is the signal with this Radio? The whole reason I went to the 2.47.11 is for better reception in areas where I had little to none. Has anyone really noticed a difference?
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Excellent, dont even notice any difference. I wonder what all these versions about.

mda reception
I just installed the aku3.2 rom and i notice 1 stripe more in reception.
before i had the 2.26 from T-mobile US and this one RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3. they both have 1 stripe reception where the 2.47 radio rom has 2-3 stripes.

I am going to say that it MAY have fixed or at least lessened the problem of the fast battery drain I was seeing with faria's ROM, too, and it is my favorite. This is most excellent.

It Works
Tried on molski with both cingular and Tmo, battery lasts longer and I have not missed any calls or had the phone require a reset!

YES....It works..!!
Thanks for the fix....!!!
Finally took time out to upgrade back to Faria's AKU 3.2 12mb and everything is working. Bluetooth is working better also, before...people could not hear me but I could here them (Motorola H700).
Dialpad works also....with & without Bluetooth...no more soft resetting.
I didn't say anything new....just confirming what's been said about the fix.....for USA T-Mobile users.

I installed the rom and downgraded to the Tmobile 02.19.11 UK radio rom (from the ftp). However, I am unable to make calls as it cannot connect to the network. There is an exclamation mark where the signal bars should be. I am O2 customer so I tried adding the network manually, but no joys.
Am I doing something wrong? Do I need a O2 2.19.11 uk rom?
Cheers
Chris

there is nothing different about this radio roms but the version number it has..
try the 2.25 t mobile rom this works also fine