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2003SE versus 2005

Hi,
I ran my Qtek9090 now hapily with KPN140 version, BT3900 and Unidirectional patch (since that long-awaited came out!).
I allready searched the forum but could not really make out why and if I should upgrade to 2005 version.
Is there allready a list of what is better and what is worse?
Maybe just simple list like:
(example!) - Wifi better 2003SE
(example!) - Bluetooth better 2005

Hi pvanhaaren;
I have had problems with my Qtek 9090 when it was flashed with windows 2003 SE version 1.40, Radio 1.12 and 1.13.
Soft reset an average of 2 times per day, trying to keep the GSM connection online, so that I can be available, reachable for the ones who were trying to call me.
Well this Problem has disappeared in Windows 2005 version with Radio 1.13, but some applications in 2005 are very slow in opening and sometimes freezes about 5 to 20 seconds. If you press the hang-up key (to End a Call) and place your phone into standby mode, you can hear a voice that this button was pressed in about 3 to 5 minutes after standby, very strange.
Actually there is a new ROM version 1.42 which is included in the T-Mobile Image, and flashed my device with this version, facing no problems till now, very fast and stable, and forgot when it was the last time I soft reset.
Current Device Info:
Rom Version 1.42.00 WWE
Rom Date 09/05/05
Radio Version 1.13.00
Protocol Version 1337.42
Ext Rom 1.42.115
Didn't install all the files of the Ext Rom (ex: T-Mobile Skins, Registry Settings, etc...), picked some applications from T-Mobile such as Caller ID, Arc Soft MMS and Camera to be able to use the MMS.

8125 w/ 2.16.9.101: looking for feedback on stability

Any of you 8125 owners who installed the imate 2.16.9.101 release have any new feedback on how it's going? Are there still issues with the connection icons or wifi connectivity?
I'm eager to get push mail working and have not been able to get a straight answer from a dozen different folks at Cingular on when their release will come out...so I might give the imate release a shot.
What about going back to the shipping Cingular version after installing the imate update - is it easy/possible? Any problems with extended ROM?
thx

I never even used the phone with the original cingular firmware, I went directly to the Q-tek Test rom. From that rom to this rom, the radios seem a little better (getting better signal, edge seems slightly faster, wifi picks up network much faster) and for some reason the whole feel is "snappier" seems like the menus and such load faster. I haven't had any stability issues, and push is working perfect.

I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.

Great thanks for the feedback yall. So once I do the upgrade, how hard will it be to go back to the shipped version if I ever need to? I have everything backed up using awizard, but I understand there could be problems trying to go to a previous version. I think downgrading via the bootloader mode requires executable rom images, but there isn't one available for the shipping version.

You can still downgrade to an old imate ROM and then use aWizard to restore your cingular ROM.

I have installed it on my Qtek 9100.
I hanged 5 times in 2 days.
What is more annoying is when it hangs and
someone tries to call me at the same time, the
other party hears my phone ringing, but my
Qtek is dead silent.

ethorn said:
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
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Is your wifi working OK? If so, did you install any of the cingular exrom customizations?
Just curious, because I installed the released imate rom and everything is working like a champ except wifi. I installed some of the original customizations from the cingular exrom and I wonder if one of those cabs did something to the wifi config...

What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?

nickcerda said:
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
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It won't turn on.. =)
I thought perhaps it was one of the cingular customization cabs I installed from the original exrom, but now I'm not so sure. I looked at all the cabs and the only one that relates to wifi is the cab that sets the key to enable talking to 802.11g APs.
In comm manager, if I click the wifi icon, it appears to attempt to start wifi, but then goes back to an "x" over the wifi button. The wifi radio doesn't start and the left LED that blinks when wifi is on does not come on.
I wish there were some logs to look at on this thing to see why it's failing to start wifi..

Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)

I have a Dopod 838 (identical to 8125, I suppose). The new ROM has worked awesome for me. Better in every way. Even the infamous Activesyn problem went away

I am getting ready to take the plunge...just in case...
does anyone have the original 8125 ROM?
I use SPB backup can restore a backup after I upgrade?

I installed this rom on my 9100, and it is much better than it was with any of the other roms including the original shipped rom!
The radio is much clearer and the wifi hooks up faster and runs better, and I have had absolutely NO lock ups at all.
Later

I am thinking of installing it on an 8125...
Without a backup 'known good' ROM to revert back to I am cautious

summiter said:
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
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I added the extROM files one by one to see which one caused the wifi issue and it was Signed-gprsstall_128.sa.cab...so far. It was only the third one in a series of 17. I'll see what happens when I add the rest. This cab file moves a radio.dll file around.

I've installed this ROM on 2 8125's. Much better and faster than Cingular's ROM. The only thing I did was to install the Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab, Microsoft Voice and TRE Pocket PC registry editor and remove all traces of the Voice Command. WiFi connects to my secured access point flawlessly (though I never use WiFi) and the AKU2 push email typically has my emails coming in in about 8-10 seconds from my Exchange 2003 server. Very infrequent lockups, much less than any other ROM I've installed.
Just my two cents worth ...
Steven
ROM version: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio version: 02.07.10
Protocol version: 413.1.03
ExtROM version: 2.16.9.101

Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?

nickcerda said:
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
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the one thing I see is it sets up the GPRS settings for data connection ... you do not need it to make phone calls or use Wifi

Step by step to 2.16
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!

Re: Step by step to 2.16
dmelton75 said:
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
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Interesting you say you're no stranger to flashing ROMs but then ask for a step by step.
It's laid out quite well in several topics, but basically:
-Use awizard and enable rapi
-Use awizard and CID unlock
-Use awizard to back up Extrom, radio, splash, os
-Run the executable RUU installer for the imate
-On first boot, as soon as you get prompted to choose a carrier, do a soft reset to prevent the imate ext rom stuff from loading
-Install desired customization items from your backed up cingular ext rom. Any of them can be installed EXCPET the gprsstall cab - it will kill your wifi.
There is currently no way to unlock the ext rom in the lates imate upgrade, so you're stuck with what's in there, but you don't have to let it install.

Newbie......want most stable 2003SE for QTEK 9090

At the moment I hate my 1 week old QTEK 9090.
To enable GPRS I normally have to reboot.
Sometimes to get Wifi and BT working I have to reboot.
GPRS drops out during a phone call
Sometimes I have to reboot when there is no sound at all on the device. Just no sound at all.
I have had it a week. Probably had to reboot it at least 3 times a day and the reboot is LONG!
Wow such a good concept let down by a HUGE number of bugs

What version rom and radio does your 9090 use? (start menu>settings>device information)
check here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
for latest official rom release by your phones manufacturer. Possibly an upgrade is beneficial! Either that, or your phone may have hardware issues. Check your service provider for repair/rma services.
Good luck!

Thanks for that.
I will check. One issue I have a work around for....
I only lose sound when I close down Windows Media Player before I stop the music. Stop it first and then close and all is fine. That is a start.
I wish the ROM upgrades were simpler like on my Treo 650.....upgrade does a backup, flashes the new ROM and then brings back the data....

I found my device and rom on that link ta. So does that mean I have the latets for my device....
This is exactly my 9090:
Qtek WWE OP ID 1.40.00 1.40.147 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
So I must have the latest ROM for my device...ripper.

Rom
Yeah you have the latest rom. when i 1st got my qtek i had some strange issues as well. what i ended up doing was to install a different rom (downgrade) and then install back to my rom (latest version). Hey presto my pda was running much smother.
Take your time to read all the info on the forum and most of all read wiki!! It takes some time to get used to wm2003se if your switching from palm. Have fun!!!

Thanks.
I have used many PPC devices as well. Last one was AXIM X50V. Before that was IPAQ 2210, IPAQ 1930.......
From the 2210 onwards everything was nice and stable.
Just this device.....!!
If I could get it to reliably start up GPRS and wireless every time I would be fine. BT is not such an issue.
Now I have solved my sound problem that is excellent.

good bye wm2003se
I will be really honest with you!!! when i was using my pda with wm2003se i had to soft reset my device 5-6 times a day....wifi being the biggest problem. needles to say it was critical to have a good backup software (Sprite). after being really frustrated i found this site....(thanks god)....know i use wm5 and guess what after 8 weeks i have not had to soft reset my device once. wm5 at the moment is not perfect but for me its stable and quick enough.

Cool....so moving my QTEK 9090 to WM5 what should I look out for? What are the issues? Will I get anything else? Lose anything?
Stability is 100% key for, but in terms of features, WM2003SE has everything i need. It just doesn't work all of the time.
What WM5 ROM do you recommend?

Oops I see Ivan....got a link?
So what is the best procedure to do the backup?
Can I easily go back to the original ROM?

Ivan 4.3
it really depends how you use your pda and what kind of functionality you want. for me speed and stability are essential. i dont use blue tooth to much just to transfer data...(no headset). as all users of wm5 will tell you there are pros and cons with each wm5 rom. my advice is to read the forums and pick a version that best suits your needs. in any case you will have to do some hacks to really bring the best out of your device on wm5. see my sig for what i have installed.
forgot to answer your question. to downgrade your device is much easier than to upgrade. before you go down this road please READ wiki carefully!!!

New T-mobile rom for uk users

Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?

i am uploading it to the ftp site

has anyone installed it yet?

Guys let us all know your findings with this rom please

I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)

t-mobile rom
it look like dopod and tmobille are using same rom and radio .

summiter said:
I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)
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Oh well it shouldn't come as much of a surprise really, but it would of be nice to get something different.

deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Looks like the same ROM that was leaked a few days ago. This contains the same Ext ROM that I used to create the Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 T-Mobile UK ROM.

I've not yet tried upgrading the ROM on my UK Vario, but I guess now is the time to think about it. I want to keep my stored SMS and MMS messages, but everything else on the machine I'll probably clean-install and re-tweak as necessary once I get the new ROM flashed. I've got a good idea of what I do and don't want in my Vario after 5 months use, and I guess now would be a great time to get rid of all the junk that's probably clogging up the registry by now.
A couple of questions:
I know I can make a backup copy of the current ROM onto a clean SD card, but can I back it up onto a partially used card (i.e. using the file system, rather than raw data blocks).
I backup my Vario regularly using SPB Backup. Can the SPB Restore utility restore just my SMS/MMS messages (including user-created folders) without reinstalling anything else, so I can keep a nice clean machine?
The UK T-Mobile release is 2.0, whereas "Mr Clean ROM" is 2.3. I'm guessing 2.3 is better, but what am I likely to lose (if anything) that's on the T-Mobile ROM? Is the stereo bluetooth headset facility on both? I've already removed most of the obvious T-Mobile pink stuff, and put in a better dialler skin, etc. In fact, I don't really want T-Mobile's dialler skin at all, as I've been trying to get rid of their modified history & speeddial icons for ages!
Finally, what about reinstalling things like TomTom - will doing so remove my user-defined favourite place settings, etc? (my maps are stored on SD card)
Thanks for any advice, I'm a little nervous here...
Andre

^^^ Same questions and concerns for me.
Also, I flashed my T-Mobile UK MDA from original ROM to Qtek 2.17 ROM a month ago. I SIM & CID unlocked it in the process using Lokiwiz 0.2b - do I need to prep the phone with Lokiwiz 0.3 before flashing the MDA to keep it unlocked?
Cheers in advance.

deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Things I've noticed so far:
1)
The Comms screen has been radically changed, adding a "push" button (deactivated on my uk t-mobile vario for some reason) and another button that looks like a ppc to ppc connection.
2)
The battery icon has moved from the bottom right corner to the top right corner, on the top panel, (where the time used to be) and has turned an ugly shade of green. I presume it goes yellow -> red when on low power.
3)
In the programs, something called "SAP Settings" has been added.
It's used for remote sim access apparently.
4)
"Running Programs" is now a program and can be seen on the start menu
6)
"Comm manager is now a program that appears on the "running programs" list.
5)
When starting up, it displays the t-mobile screen followed by the WINDOWS MOBILE screen instead of just the t-mobile screen.
Finally, this could because of a cleaner registry and stuff, but it does feel somewhat more efficient.

So would the early adopters say it is better or worse than the mighty summiter/Mr Clean (Uk) versions
Bhayani

Right now I like the Mr Clean version better, but I only had that on for a weekend and the new one has only been on for an hour or so.

Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom

Hi can someone post up the MMS settings as I didn't note them down when I updated the rom - doh! UK of course.

arf said:
Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom
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Thats interesting.... Im using a Qtek 2.17 ROM at the moment and am considering upgrading, but Im holding back at the moment. What dont you like?

Bad news here. I've been running the Mr Clean Comes to London ROM for a few days with no problems at all and before that one of the Qtek ones and the unit never reset itself which it had ben doing with the T-Mobile ROM from the start of the year. I am happy with the performance of the new T-Mobile ROM after installing it yesterday but overnight it went back to soft resetting itself as all of my open programs were shut down this morning. Also when I turned it on the screen wasn't responding so I ended up doing another reset.
I'll leave it over the weekend but it looks like the spontaneous reset problem hasn't been resolved. Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!

leigho said:
Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!
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Of course it could be something T-Mobile has put in that's causing it. I'm thinking Mr Clean is the way to go...
Andre

quick rom question

Hi,
I've been using this forum for a while but think this is my first ever post!
I've been having problems with the search function today so decided its going to be quicker if someone can help me out.
I've never updated the rom on my wizard (which was on o2 but i unlocked and usign t-mobile uk sim now) though as im using push email the not vibrating when on standby thing is starting to piss me off.
Question is which rom do i need to fix that standby problem?
currently mine is on
rom version: 2.21.4.1 WWE
date 3/9/06
radio version 02.07.10
protocol version 413.1.03
extrom version 2.21.4.101
bit of a begginer with this so not sure if its g3 or g4 :S
thanks for any help

You can use my Molski.Biz roms.
Never heard that someone that uses my Rom has the same problem like you.
Regards,
Molski

have you tried going to settings, sounds and notifications, then tick the notifications tab at the bottom, under Event choose Messaging: New Email message then tick the option for vibrate?
dont know if this works while in standby or not, but know the option is there and turned off by default

yeah its set to make a sound and vibrate etc... which it does when its on, just in stand by it doesnt do it.
Heard about the problem before tbh which is how i know its a romproblem.
Just downloaded the t-mobile usa rom which imgonna give a blast, nothing to loose i guess

ahh had a go late last night and learned a few more things which if id spent longer reading the forum id have found out lol.
Right my phones a G4 and was an o2 uk phone.
First problem was it seems impossible to update a rom in vista as when it goes into bootloader mode vista disconnects from the phone. had a go with xp and got further.
Next problem is seems I can only use o2 uk roms presumably due to it being CID locked which am i right in thinking you have to pay to unlock?
Sooo if I want a nice new rom am I right in thinking im buggered? lol