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Upgrading Radio Rom ONLY

Is that possible? Everything I've read involving upgrading the ROM; I'm not interested in loosing all my settings etc, I just want a better radio ROM since mine looses EDGE/GPRS connection periodically. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.

This is possible to do. The files are in the usual place, and remember to unlock your CID first.
Be aware that it may claim that it will change your OS Rom version and/ir it may overestimate the time required--this is normal. Your OS Rom will stay the same and it should take only a minute or two.

I upgraded mine the night before last. I didn't use CID unlock or anything. I just d/l'd the file Wizard_GSM_11210.exe from the ftp and double clicked on it. It does tell you that you will lose everything and your OS is being upgraded, but that did not happen, it was just compiled with that installer, that's all, so don't worry.
My signal is stronger and my speakerphone works great now. I lost nothing and nothing else was changed.
Good luck.

Yep - done on my T-Mobile MDA. The stock radio ROM sucked bananas.

Will it adversely affect my Cingular 8125 in any way?

works!
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I installed the Wiz radio rom from the FTP site and it worked. EDGE and even Wifi seemed mroe stable and faster now. And all my data's still there!
As for the 8125, my friend got one of them and I'll ask him to try updating his radio rom with this same file and see if it breaks it.

Wow! It really does make a tremendous difference, thanks fellas!

which is the last version of the RADIO ROM ?
I got 01.13.10 inside the last WWE qtek wizard upgrade (1.6.7.1)

That's probably it. My phone came with 1.09 and the ROM I just applied is 1.12.

Would upgrading my MDA's Radio ROM to 1.13.10 adversely effect my battery life?

Well, if you get signals where you had none before, you might use the phone a lot more, so that would use more energy.
Seriously, I haven't noticed any difference in my battery's state of charge or rate of discharge.

So is it safe to say that the Radio ROM upgrades (1.12/1.13) are better than the stock US TMo MDA Radio ROM? I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to wind up with worse reception and/or a void warranty. Suggestions?

you could always use aWizard and backup your radio so if you need to return the unit for any reason, you could restore the old rom. i backed all of my stuff up and its sittin on in a folder hidden away

Thanks for the suggestion blazin...I'll have to start the process of learning about aWizard and how to use it.

Settings and whatnot
I have been trying to figure out the pluses to tampering, and this is one of the first threads where I have actually found a real positive. I am kinda simple though I have been weighing the options of flashing the ROM to reclaim some storage. I LIKE the voice dial on it right now. I could care less about the pdf viewer. I can download adobe and install it to SD. What other cabs in the extended ROM can I do without, how much storage can I reclaim, and how stable is the ROM I obtain. How difficult will it be to get the settings right to make good calls. I don't use edge or gprs for data. I do use wifi at home and around town. Is there a "for dummies" primer on how to do this. I am not a complete rookie with PPC, but I have no programming knowledge whatsoever. These threads rapidly leave me in the dust. I feel like a mule looking at a new gate quite often. :lol:

Cingular 8125 rom upgraded to rom 2.16.9.101 successfully

I have installed the 1.12.10 GSM on it after making backups with aWizard. I am happy to report that it does work and that it does speed up the initial connection. Before (with 1.09.11 I beleive) I could log into (enter my PIN) and would still have some time before I would connect and get signal bars. It also seemed to increase refresh rates of the bars. Now the signal is usually found before I even finish entering my PIN muchless the today screen loading.
These tests were made in my basement at my house where I typically have been getting 1-3 bars. now to test 1.13.10 and 2.8 OS to see if it works.
I will say I thought it broke at first because I couldn't get my PC to talk to it after it reloaded, then I did another soft reset and the boot screen the second time didn't list the GSM version, even though the OS did see and use GSM. I re-ran the CID unlock procedure again since I could talk to the phone again. Reset again and GSM ver was on the boot screen again.
I also swapped out the boot screen for a bmp and that worked wonderfully. my only question is if there is a way to swap out the booting screen of the OS and not just the IPL Rom.
cheers,
ET

I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.

I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?

ok, i updated my 8125 to the new rom and am having two issues atm. first, the phone signal icon and the battery icon on the today screen is cut off so i only see the edge icon. secondly, i cannot start wifi at all, no matter what i do :\ (it looks like it's thinking but doesn't actually turn on ) now i did apply the cingular extended rom to this so i dont know if that caused both issues or not. as for edge performance, i'm in an area with bad signal so i couldnt exactly test it. i'm going to be clearing storage tonight and see if that fixes both issues or not. i haven't tested push e-mail as clubimates servers AREN'T supporting direct push (ie they don't have SP2 installed or have it enabled on exchange).

Locked up
Well I am noticing that it is locking up if I let it sit for a while to where I can't bring it back up. I have disabled the lock code to see if that fixes it.
I would have a feeling that the problems you are having are because of the enhanced rom difference. it won't hurt to try it as is like I did since you are having problems with it.

were can I fine install
I look for the rom in the ftp but there is no RUU install of 2.16.9.101 can you please tell me where can I fin this rom
thank you

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638
Scroll down to HTTP server link.
Cheers

thanks
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET

Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?

after the upgrade i cant find the GPS ICON
even i try to delete the redirect string in the registry like i used to do before
still i cant see the icon on my setting page
please anyone noticed this problem ?
tx

exchguy said:
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
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i finally fixed the signal strength icon (but don't ask me how), but wifi is still borked

no more problems, lock ups or otherwise
My guess with my problems were related to Battery Pack Pro demo. Even on the original rom I couldn't get it to work right with the assignable hard keys.
Anyway, I did not modify the original EXE one bit like darkjedi said he did. He seems to be much more advanced as I don't know how to do what he did and not that familier with its registry settings yet. But I naver had any problems with Wifi nor with icon placement.
My home wifi does use WPS-PSK TKIP using a Netgear WG302. Battery life seems good, but I do get a little crackle every now and then on my end of the bluetooth handsfree. People I talk to haven't said they hear anything other than perfect clarity. I would have been told if they heard anything since part of my reason to spend the money now rather than later was my voice and signal quality on my old Nokia was getting to be bad and they wouldn't waste a second ragging me if voice and signal problems were re-appearing. But mostly the crackle is few and far between and usually when my headset is on the other side of my body or I am a few feet away from my phone.

i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.

i dnt see the rush to upgrade if u have a cingular 8125 since there goa offer rom upgrades for the unit. with all the bugs i rather just get a ad2 bt plugin (wish they made it) and just do that

what roms do they offer? On my past phones I have had to have major problems before they would flash a new version of the Rom (my last 2 symbian phones).

darkjedi said:
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
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ok... the only cab I installed for Cingular was the one I mentioned earlier. I have since installed spb power plus and their weather app and I am still stable. Not one failuer and my bluetooth is actually acting better from some reason. I was working on my car today with teh phone in the car and I was about 10 feet away without any noise or other problems.

Re: thanks
ethorn said:
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
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Is there any settings to configure edge? I only see GPRS in the connections section.
This version appears quite stable but's only my second day since upgrading my 8125 from the QTECH 2.8.7.102. I really like the Comm manager and the Push Email icon works great.
Thanks!

name of account
the only thing that I have notice so far is that the name of my celular company (I could see before upgrade) now i only see numbers.

exchguy said:
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
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On the new imate ROM I'm getting between 65 and 110 kbps on edge. Latency is still crap at about 1.5 seconds on average, but that's what it's always been for me.
Direct push is great. Assuming you have Exch SP2 installed, push works without any other changes. I'm averaging between 7 and 10 seconds for an entry to push out after it gets to Exchange. I haven't installed the device management tools yet, but I'll do that soon and let you know how well they work.
I just noticed wifi isn't working. If I enable it in comm manager, the button is ringed in green as if it's on, but the left green led does not blink and it does not detect my open, unsecured access point. I did install the cabs from my original cingular extended rom, and one of those appears realted to wifi, but not sure what it does. I'll mess around some more and see what I can do. I'm not totally heartbroken that wifi is messed up, but it does bug me that I don't know why it aint working.

Need Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab file
ethorn said:
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
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Where did you get the "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" file? I have searched everywhere and cannot find it! Help?

HELP,HELP needed to Downgrade from the new ROM 2.8.7.1?

Sorry guys to bug you but i need your help.How can i revert back to
Qtek_9100 old rom 1.6.7.1 after upgrading to 2.8.7.102?I downloaded a new 1.6.7.1 ROM, tried that several times and it kept on telling me that I'm using a newer ROM therefore an upgrade is not possible.Could you outline to me or point me to a detailed info for downgrading cause the new ROM is not stable on my device(Qtek 9100).It keeps on rebooting even during a call and when i'm running other applications.
I'd appreciate your kind help.Thanks a mil.

I have a similar problem. Except I need to go back to my original tmobile MDA ROM. A2DP works fine, but nothing else is working for me. How can I go back?

davidbessler said:
I have a similar problem. Except I need to go back to my original tmobile MDA ROM. A2DP works fine, but nothing else is working for me. How can I go back?
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Did you backup your original rom? Also is aWizard not letting you go back to your previous rom? I have posted the production T-Mobile USA ROM in a different post on the board if you don't have your old ROM.
I am also curious what the issues are you are having as I have been wondering about trying the test ROM on a USA unit for T-Mobile going from 1.x to 2.x as you did.

I could use a link to the TMO USA MDA ROM just in case I need to exchange the machine. That said, I am having absolutely NO problems with the QTEK TEST ROM. However, I did lvlolvlo's trick and after I had flashed the new ROM, when it said that in 3 seconds it would install the extended ROM, I quickly soft-reset, and then installed the extended ROM stuff from TMobile. This automatically set up my internet, and made the email triggers a snap. I can now use my Motorola STEREO bluetooth headset (even has a mic for the phone). As an added bonus, with the TMO ROM, I was unable to have both MortButtons and MS VoiceCommand installed simultaneously (something about the startup folder), but with the QTEK ROM they both work.
You know, I came from the 6315, and this machine is FLAWLESS ... really a top-notch device, with the QTEK ROM, it is even better.
If you would like me to test out any functionality with this configuration, let me know, I'd be happy to test it out.
Can you get me that link to the original TMO ROM just in case?

I posted this not too long ago. It has the main rom and a link to the extended rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42130&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
The reason I ask about your functionality is that you said your bluetooth stereo profile was working now but nothing else was? I am tempted to switch to the newer rom but not without some assurance it works semi decently. I am mainly interested in the Radio rom upgrade as mine seems to take a while to re-obtain a signal once it is lost and it ocassionally appears to not accept calls (going to voicemail) even though it has signal strength.

Newbie......want most stable 2003SE for QTEK 9090

At the moment I hate my 1 week old QTEK 9090.
To enable GPRS I normally have to reboot.
Sometimes to get Wifi and BT working I have to reboot.
GPRS drops out during a phone call
Sometimes I have to reboot when there is no sound at all on the device. Just no sound at all.
I have had it a week. Probably had to reboot it at least 3 times a day and the reboot is LONG!
Wow such a good concept let down by a HUGE number of bugs

What version rom and radio does your 9090 use? (start menu>settings>device information)
check here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
for latest official rom release by your phones manufacturer. Possibly an upgrade is beneficial! Either that, or your phone may have hardware issues. Check your service provider for repair/rma services.
Good luck!

Thanks for that.
I will check. One issue I have a work around for....
I only lose sound when I close down Windows Media Player before I stop the music. Stop it first and then close and all is fine. That is a start.
I wish the ROM upgrades were simpler like on my Treo 650.....upgrade does a backup, flashes the new ROM and then brings back the data....

I found my device and rom on that link ta. So does that mean I have the latets for my device....
This is exactly my 9090:
Qtek WWE OP ID 1.40.00 1.40.147 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
So I must have the latest ROM for my device...ripper.

Rom
Yeah you have the latest rom. when i 1st got my qtek i had some strange issues as well. what i ended up doing was to install a different rom (downgrade) and then install back to my rom (latest version). Hey presto my pda was running much smother.
Take your time to read all the info on the forum and most of all read wiki!! It takes some time to get used to wm2003se if your switching from palm. Have fun!!!

Thanks.
I have used many PPC devices as well. Last one was AXIM X50V. Before that was IPAQ 2210, IPAQ 1930.......
From the 2210 onwards everything was nice and stable.
Just this device.....!!
If I could get it to reliably start up GPRS and wireless every time I would be fine. BT is not such an issue.
Now I have solved my sound problem that is excellent.

good bye wm2003se
I will be really honest with you!!! when i was using my pda with wm2003se i had to soft reset my device 5-6 times a day....wifi being the biggest problem. needles to say it was critical to have a good backup software (Sprite). after being really frustrated i found this site....(thanks god)....know i use wm5 and guess what after 8 weeks i have not had to soft reset my device once. wm5 at the moment is not perfect but for me its stable and quick enough.

Cool....so moving my QTEK 9090 to WM5 what should I look out for? What are the issues? Will I get anything else? Lose anything?
Stability is 100% key for, but in terms of features, WM2003SE has everything i need. It just doesn't work all of the time.
What WM5 ROM do you recommend?

Oops I see Ivan....got a link?
So what is the best procedure to do the backup?
Can I easily go back to the original ROM?

Ivan 4.3
it really depends how you use your pda and what kind of functionality you want. for me speed and stability are essential. i dont use blue tooth to much just to transfer data...(no headset). as all users of wm5 will tell you there are pros and cons with each wm5 rom. my advice is to read the forums and pick a version that best suits your needs. in any case you will have to do some hacks to really bring the best out of your device on wm5. see my sig for what i have installed.
forgot to answer your question. to downgrade your device is much easier than to upgrade. before you go down this road please READ wiki carefully!!!

New T-mobile rom for uk users

Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?

i am uploading it to the ftp site

has anyone installed it yet?

Guys let us all know your findings with this rom please

I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)

t-mobile rom
it look like dopod and tmobille are using same rom and radio .

summiter said:
I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)
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Oh well it shouldn't come as much of a surprise really, but it would of be nice to get something different.

deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Looks like the same ROM that was leaked a few days ago. This contains the same Ext ROM that I used to create the Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 T-Mobile UK ROM.

I've not yet tried upgrading the ROM on my UK Vario, but I guess now is the time to think about it. I want to keep my stored SMS and MMS messages, but everything else on the machine I'll probably clean-install and re-tweak as necessary once I get the new ROM flashed. I've got a good idea of what I do and don't want in my Vario after 5 months use, and I guess now would be a great time to get rid of all the junk that's probably clogging up the registry by now.
A couple of questions:
I know I can make a backup copy of the current ROM onto a clean SD card, but can I back it up onto a partially used card (i.e. using the file system, rather than raw data blocks).
I backup my Vario regularly using SPB Backup. Can the SPB Restore utility restore just my SMS/MMS messages (including user-created folders) without reinstalling anything else, so I can keep a nice clean machine?
The UK T-Mobile release is 2.0, whereas "Mr Clean ROM" is 2.3. I'm guessing 2.3 is better, but what am I likely to lose (if anything) that's on the T-Mobile ROM? Is the stereo bluetooth headset facility on both? I've already removed most of the obvious T-Mobile pink stuff, and put in a better dialler skin, etc. In fact, I don't really want T-Mobile's dialler skin at all, as I've been trying to get rid of their modified history & speeddial icons for ages!
Finally, what about reinstalling things like TomTom - will doing so remove my user-defined favourite place settings, etc? (my maps are stored on SD card)
Thanks for any advice, I'm a little nervous here...
Andre

^^^ Same questions and concerns for me.
Also, I flashed my T-Mobile UK MDA from original ROM to Qtek 2.17 ROM a month ago. I SIM & CID unlocked it in the process using Lokiwiz 0.2b - do I need to prep the phone with Lokiwiz 0.3 before flashing the MDA to keep it unlocked?
Cheers in advance.

deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Things I've noticed so far:
1)
The Comms screen has been radically changed, adding a "push" button (deactivated on my uk t-mobile vario for some reason) and another button that looks like a ppc to ppc connection.
2)
The battery icon has moved from the bottom right corner to the top right corner, on the top panel, (where the time used to be) and has turned an ugly shade of green. I presume it goes yellow -> red when on low power.
3)
In the programs, something called "SAP Settings" has been added.
It's used for remote sim access apparently.
4)
"Running Programs" is now a program and can be seen on the start menu
6)
"Comm manager is now a program that appears on the "running programs" list.
5)
When starting up, it displays the t-mobile screen followed by the WINDOWS MOBILE screen instead of just the t-mobile screen.
Finally, this could because of a cleaner registry and stuff, but it does feel somewhat more efficient.

So would the early adopters say it is better or worse than the mighty summiter/Mr Clean (Uk) versions
Bhayani

Right now I like the Mr Clean version better, but I only had that on for a weekend and the new one has only been on for an hour or so.

Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom

Hi can someone post up the MMS settings as I didn't note them down when I updated the rom - doh! UK of course.

arf said:
Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom
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Thats interesting.... Im using a Qtek 2.17 ROM at the moment and am considering upgrading, but Im holding back at the moment. What dont you like?

Bad news here. I've been running the Mr Clean Comes to London ROM for a few days with no problems at all and before that one of the Qtek ones and the unit never reset itself which it had ben doing with the T-Mobile ROM from the start of the year. I am happy with the performance of the new T-Mobile ROM after installing it yesterday but overnight it went back to soft resetting itself as all of my open programs were shut down this morning. Also when I turned it on the screen wasn't responding so I ended up doing another reset.
I'll leave it over the weekend but it looks like the spontaneous reset problem hasn't been resolved. Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!

leigho said:
Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!
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Of course it could be something T-Mobile has put in that's causing it. I'm thinking Mr Clean is the way to go...
Andre