Is that possible? Everything I've read involving upgrading the ROM; I'm not interested in loosing all my settings etc, I just want a better radio ROM since mine looses EDGE/GPRS connection periodically. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.
This is possible to do. The files are in the usual place, and remember to unlock your CID first.
Be aware that it may claim that it will change your OS Rom version and/ir it may overestimate the time required--this is normal. Your OS Rom will stay the same and it should take only a minute or two.
I upgraded mine the night before last. I didn't use CID unlock or anything. I just d/l'd the file Wizard_GSM_11210.exe from the ftp and double clicked on it. It does tell you that you will lose everything and your OS is being upgraded, but that did not happen, it was just compiled with that installer, that's all, so don't worry.
My signal is stronger and my speakerphone works great now. I lost nothing and nothing else was changed.
Good luck.
Yep - done on my T-Mobile MDA. The stock radio ROM sucked bananas.
Will it adversely affect my Cingular 8125 in any way?
works!
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I installed the Wiz radio rom from the FTP site and it worked. EDGE and even Wifi seemed mroe stable and faster now. And all my data's still there!
As for the 8125, my friend got one of them and I'll ask him to try updating his radio rom with this same file and see if it breaks it.
Wow! It really does make a tremendous difference, thanks fellas!
which is the last version of the RADIO ROM ?
I got 01.13.10 inside the last WWE qtek wizard upgrade (1.6.7.1)
That's probably it. My phone came with 1.09 and the ROM I just applied is 1.12.
Would upgrading my MDA's Radio ROM to 1.13.10 adversely effect my battery life?
Well, if you get signals where you had none before, you might use the phone a lot more, so that would use more energy.
Seriously, I haven't noticed any difference in my battery's state of charge or rate of discharge.
So is it safe to say that the Radio ROM upgrades (1.12/1.13) are better than the stock US TMo MDA Radio ROM? I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to wind up with worse reception and/or a void warranty. Suggestions?
you could always use aWizard and backup your radio so if you need to return the unit for any reason, you could restore the old rom. i backed all of my stuff up and its sittin on in a folder hidden away
Thanks for the suggestion blazin...I'll have to start the process of learning about aWizard and how to use it.
Settings and whatnot
I have been trying to figure out the pluses to tampering, and this is one of the first threads where I have actually found a real positive. I am kinda simple though I have been weighing the options of flashing the ROM to reclaim some storage. I LIKE the voice dial on it right now. I could care less about the pdf viewer. I can download adobe and install it to SD. What other cabs in the extended ROM can I do without, how much storage can I reclaim, and how stable is the ROM I obtain. How difficult will it be to get the settings right to make good calls. I don't use edge or gprs for data. I do use wifi at home and around town. Is there a "for dummies" primer on how to do this. I am not a complete rookie with PPC, but I have no programming knowledge whatsoever. These threads rapidly leave me in the dust. I feel like a mule looking at a new gate quite often. :lol:
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Any of you 8125 owners who installed the imate 2.16.9.101 release have any new feedback on how it's going? Are there still issues with the connection icons or wifi connectivity?
I'm eager to get push mail working and have not been able to get a straight answer from a dozen different folks at Cingular on when their release will come out...so I might give the imate release a shot.
What about going back to the shipping Cingular version after installing the imate update - is it easy/possible? Any problems with extended ROM?
thx
I never even used the phone with the original cingular firmware, I went directly to the Q-tek Test rom. From that rom to this rom, the radios seem a little better (getting better signal, edge seems slightly faster, wifi picks up network much faster) and for some reason the whole feel is "snappier" seems like the menus and such load faster. I haven't had any stability issues, and push is working perfect.
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
Great thanks for the feedback yall. So once I do the upgrade, how hard will it be to go back to the shipped version if I ever need to? I have everything backed up using awizard, but I understand there could be problems trying to go to a previous version. I think downgrading via the bootloader mode requires executable rom images, but there isn't one available for the shipping version.
You can still downgrade to an old imate ROM and then use aWizard to restore your cingular ROM.
I have installed it on my Qtek 9100.
I hanged 5 times in 2 days.
What is more annoying is when it hangs and
someone tries to call me at the same time, the
other party hears my phone ringing, but my
Qtek is dead silent.
ethorn said:
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
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Is your wifi working OK? If so, did you install any of the cingular exrom customizations?
Just curious, because I installed the released imate rom and everything is working like a champ except wifi. I installed some of the original customizations from the cingular exrom and I wonder if one of those cabs did something to the wifi config...
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
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What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
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It won't turn on.. =)
I thought perhaps it was one of the cingular customization cabs I installed from the original exrom, but now I'm not so sure. I looked at all the cabs and the only one that relates to wifi is the cab that sets the key to enable talking to 802.11g APs.
In comm manager, if I click the wifi icon, it appears to attempt to start wifi, but then goes back to an "x" over the wifi button. The wifi radio doesn't start and the left LED that blinks when wifi is on does not come on.
I wish there were some logs to look at on this thing to see why it's failing to start wifi..
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
I have a Dopod 838 (identical to 8125, I suppose). The new ROM has worked awesome for me. Better in every way. Even the infamous Activesyn problem went away
I am getting ready to take the plunge...just in case...
does anyone have the original 8125 ROM?
I use SPB backup can restore a backup after I upgrade?
I installed this rom on my 9100, and it is much better than it was with any of the other roms including the original shipped rom!
The radio is much clearer and the wifi hooks up faster and runs better, and I have had absolutely NO lock ups at all.
Later
I am thinking of installing it on an 8125...
Without a backup 'known good' ROM to revert back to I am cautious
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Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
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I added the extROM files one by one to see which one caused the wifi issue and it was Signed-gprsstall_128.sa.cab...so far. It was only the third one in a series of 17. I'll see what happens when I add the rest. This cab file moves a radio.dll file around.
I've installed this ROM on 2 8125's. Much better and faster than Cingular's ROM. The only thing I did was to install the Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab, Microsoft Voice and TRE Pocket PC registry editor and remove all traces of the Voice Command. WiFi connects to my secured access point flawlessly (though I never use WiFi) and the AKU2 push email typically has my emails coming in in about 8-10 seconds from my Exchange 2003 server. Very infrequent lockups, much less than any other ROM I've installed.
Just my two cents worth ...
Steven
ROM version: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio version: 02.07.10
Protocol version: 413.1.03
ExtROM version: 2.16.9.101
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
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Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
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the one thing I see is it sets up the GPRS settings for data connection ... you do not need it to make phone calls or use Wifi
Step by step to 2.16
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
Re: Step by step to 2.16
dmelton75 said:
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
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Interesting you say you're no stranger to flashing ROMs but then ask for a step by step.
It's laid out quite well in several topics, but basically:
-Use awizard and enable rapi
-Use awizard and CID unlock
-Use awizard to back up Extrom, radio, splash, os
-Run the executable RUU installer for the imate
-On first boot, as soon as you get prompted to choose a carrier, do a soft reset to prevent the imate ext rom stuff from loading
-Install desired customization items from your backed up cingular ext rom. Any of them can be installed EXCPET the gprsstall cab - it will kill your wifi.
There is currently no way to unlock the ext rom in the lates imate upgrade, so you're stuck with what's in there, but you don't have to let it install.
I am interested in upgrading from 2003SE. I have a PDA2K with the versions specified in my signature. Here's what I do with my device in order of importance:
1. Phone
2. Bluetooth headset for phone usage (Motorola HS850)
3. PDA sync with Windows/Outlook for calendar, email, etc
4. GPRS for IMAP email reading, downloading of pocket weather info, etc.
5. TomTom with a Bluetooth GPS
6. Solitaire / games
My current device is fairly stable and does not require a reboot more than about once a week. The phone functionality works well and I can hear the other person, they can hear me, etc. Bluetooth isn't great, but I don't think anyone with this device can say it is great.
I am an experienced user/upgrader and can perform all upgrade steps, I just don't want to have to muck with it on a regular basis once it's upgraded. I'd like to stick to every-six-months type of upgrade cycles.
That being said, what is currently the best upgrade ROM in terms of speed, functionality, and most importantly stability? I have read many posts and can tell which is the NEWEST, but not necessarily which is the most stable.
Thanks in advance.
-RJB
I think that the best rom for you is T-Mobile 1.42
For the things you want to do the fastest speeds you can gain with 2003 SE, WM5 does not meet your requrements for OS
You can always choose difrend rom from here
T-Mobile 1.42
the T-Mobile 1.42 ROM does it have to be a stateside pda? or can it work on my unlocked QTEK9090 that i bought here in italy. And will it work when i got back to the states in a few years?
It will work everywhere, only problem with uprading that you may have is that you may have to flash the rom using MaUpgradeUt_NOID, which disables the check for an operator
Interesting
Interesting, so you think an upgrade to the T-Mobile W2K3 ROM is better than moving to a WM5-based system, such as TuMa 1.4? I was hoping the WM5 stuff was stable enough to use on a daily basis.
I'll check out the T-Mobile and a radio upgrade since I have fallen behind in that area. I'd like to hear more thoughts about WM5 and the various versions out there.
Thanks for the responses.
The T-Mobile 1.42 ROM is from t-mobile.nl, so it loads in dutch on first start up but is written in WWE so you just go into the regional settings and choose whatever language you want.
I have found it to be very stable, I do a soft reset maybe once a week and that is usually just to regain the sd slot, it tends to say empty even though there is a 1gb card in it.
Only problems I seem to have with this are the BT doesn't like to turn on, you get the insufficient memory error, so I leave BT on all the time, and the wifi usually requires a soft reset to enable, which for me is ok because I do not use it that often.
I have not had to do a hard reset since upgrading to this ROM, it has been so reliable for me that I am very hesitant to upgrade to WM5. I just don't think I would gain anything from upgrading. though I am sure i will eventually.
Hey everyone,
I was here back in March on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45474&highlight= when I tried to upgrade from the ROM my phone came with. I managed to get that working with your help (thank you all again), but its now time for a new ROM. There are some things about this ROM I didn't like (such as the phone skin being the ugly tmobile white and pink, even after changing the rest of the device to the Windows Default skin). Lately, my phone has also been acting up more frequently, to the point that it will no longer Sync using Activesync, let me download any kind of file from the Internet, or install any kind of software.
I know I could probably just hard reset to fix some of these problems, but considering that there are new ROMs out there, it makes sense to upgrade anyway. The problem, as always, is deciding which ROM to upgrade to. Additionally, I don't want to repeat the nightmare I had before, so I've come to you guys for help preemptively of needing it. I'll be rereading the old thread from my last upgrade, so I shouldn't have some of the simpler problems again.
As for my main concern of finding a new ROM, I need some advice. I'm inclined to install the latest Qtek ROM (I own a Qtek 9100) rather than a custom ROM, but I'm sure there are some nice new ROMs available. I've read about the Mr. Clean ROM, but don't know if its for me.
My top priority in the new ROM is stability as well as call quality. Other features, such as 802.11G support, are important, but since I can just install that patch over any ROM it isn't as big a deal.
If any of you (especially those kind souls who helped me originally) have recommendations for new ROMs that you've used, I'd appreciate it. I've been on the FTP trying to figure out which ROM is the newest/best, but must defer to your better judgement.
Thanks again.
I don't know... It seems to me that the 2.17 ROM was the last stable ROM made. I've had problems with everything that came after this and had to downgrade each time...
Maybe a hard reset and clearing out whats causing the problems...
It sounds like you just need to turn off the phone dialer skin.
There is a registry tweak for it, search the forums. I think the Wiki with WM5 Registry Hacks & Tweaks includes it. This will return you to the default WM5 dialer skin.
Thanks guys. Thanks kyphur in particular for the registry advice. I'll probably do a hard reset then and when I get back online install Total Commander to get into my registry.
enjoy....
regards
faria
ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/faria-roms/radio2.40.11.zip
The link doesnt work for me faria. I just went to the ftp site and manually downloaded the rom.
I cant access the FTP site. It keeps asking me my usnername or something so I figure the xda login name right, but it doesnt work. Can someone upload it somewhere thanks
Thanks
Download works fine for me. Just put xda in for the password. I'll check it out and see if its a reasonable alternative for the 2.19.11 rom and my Cingular service!
Regards,
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Download works fine for me. Just put xda in for the password. I'll check it out and see if its a reasonable alternative for the 2.19.11 rom and my Cingular service!
Regards,
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Thanks, I finally was able to download it. One question before I upgrade. Maybe Faria can give his input. I am a T-mobile user currently on the 2.19.11 radio rom. This seems to be the best one overall for me since it allows both data and voice calls at the same time, there are no missed calls. But reception/signal is somewhat not good. Does this new radio give better reception for T-Mobile as well as allowing both data and voice?
Thanks
Great radio rom but isn't 2.69.11 newer then 2.40.11?
Well, right, it is newer most likely. The thing is, newer isn't necessarily better for each person's circumstance. Radios are tuned for particular providers in particular places and are usually matched with particular roms. However, in my case for example, with Cingular US service, and WM6 roms, my experience and that of many others is that the 2.19.11 T-mobile UK rom is the best. The others were inconsistent in alerting me to incoming calls and pending voicemails. However the data and sound was better with the newer radios. For me not missing calls was most important, so I stick with the older rom. But, this is a new one for me, and hope springs eternal, so I'll probably give it a try and see if I can have the best of both worlds like those T-Mobile guys.
Regards,
working well on farias "the real thing"?
raiden said:
Great radio rom but isn't 2.69.11 newer then 2.40.11?
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From what I understand, 2.69.11 is the latest released German Radio rom, but 2.40.11 is a US released rom. So this may work better for US customers. I hope we can use 2.40.11 with WM6!
testing
in the midwest US of A baby.. smoke you!
Just installed it! I will post back my results.
Since I finally experienced the awful delay in SMS receiving on the 2.69 radio ROM (after several weeks of success, I missed 4 important text messages in an hour's timeframe), I'm game for this. Downloading now...
So far my signal seems to be much better than 2.19 radio. but only time will tell.
bigrob119 said:
Since I finally experienced the awful delay in SMS receiving on the 2.69 radio ROM (after several weeks of success, I missed 4 important text messages in an hour's timeframe), I'm game for this. Downloading now...
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I too am now noticing a delay\lack of SMS\Voicemail Msg after WEEKS of 2.69 working like a charm. I thought I was one of the lucking ones but now I am not so sure. Who knows how long this has been happening. Anyway, downloaded and installing right now.
Working great on WM2005 .
thanx Faria .
by the way...this is a US radio.....sorry i cant name the carrier at the moment.
I've installed this on my Cingular 8125 on the Cingular network last night. I received a test sms and another SMS from a friend in a timely manner. All test calls I've put through have worked so far. I was even downloading a webpage with Opera and phoned in and the call came through. So far so good... Tomorrow (Monday) will be the real test when I'm back to work, but I'll try to give it a workout today.
thanks for the info so far and please continue to post information on this rom and its working with wm6
P.S.-Sorry for not being able to also post information but in what i do missing a call/calls or missing a sms/sms' would cost me alot of $$$$$...(so thanks for being guinea pigs...poor pigs lol)
First timer dumb question
Hi. I am running Nottoosmart's system with radio 2.19. Things have been pretty stable, but there are times when I've had to reboot in order to reacquire the phone carrier after sleep (e.g. softreset). Also, subjectively I believe I have some signal problems when in places where there is already a weak signal.
So, bottom, line, I am considering trying this radio.
But, I have never flashed a radio before and I'd like to avoid having this become a "federal project." So a few questions:
1. I can flash the radio back and forth (e.g. ->2.40, ->2.19) *without* touching the OS (e.g. wm6 rom/ram), is that correct?
2. There are several executables in the zip: EnterBootloader.exe, romupdateutility.exe, RUUGetInfo.exe; I realize there are tutorials ad infinitum posted here, but can someone help me save some time by letting me know how to install the radio, do I just run "romupdateutility" over activesync, or is there more to do?
Please don't flame. I am an engineer, just not experienced in burning radios to MDA's. I assume the radio goes into a portion of rom that is dedicated to the phone processor of the OMAP chip?
perm said:
Hi. I am running Nottoosmart's system with radio 2.19. Things have been pretty stable, but there are times when I've had to reboot in order to reacquire the phone carrier after sleep (e.g. softreset). Also, subjectively I believe I have some signal problems when in places where there is already a weak signal.
So, bottom, line, I am considering trying this radio.
But, I have never flashed a radio before and I'd like to avoid having this become a "federal project." So a few questions:
1. I can flash the radio back and forth (e.g. ->2.40, ->2.19) *without* touching the OS (e.g. wm6 rom/ram), is that correct?
2. There are several executables in the zip: EnterBootloader.exe, romupdateutility.exe, RUUGetInfo.exe; I realize there are tutorials ad infinitum posted here, but can someone help me save some time by letting me know how to install the radio, do I just run "romupdateutility" over activesync, or is there more to do?
Please don't flame. I am an engineer, just not experienced in burning radios to MDA's. I assume the radio goes into a portion of rom that is dedicated to the phone processor of the OMAP chip?
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Hello,
1) You can flash the Radio rom without messing with the OS. All of your settings and files will not be affected. It does not require a hard reset.
2) Just run the romupdateutility.exe. It works the same when you flash a new os rom, it just takes a fraction of the time due to the fact you are only flashing the radio. I just connect via USB and let activesync do its thing then run romupdateutility.exe, the program will kill activesync itself.
I hope this helps.
Dear developers..
Is there a possibility that I can downgrade my radio firmware from 1.54.30.10 to let's say 1.54.01.00 or whatsoever?
I tried dozens of methods but non worked, spend 10+ hours on this forum.. none worked.
My specs:
Treo 750 unlocked
Windows Mobile 6 (previously 6.1 normal version)
Radio: 1.54.30.10 (Hermes one)
IPL 0.20
SPL 1.40
Netherlands / T-Mobile
And is it possible to rollback to the official Palm Bootloader? In case I have to send it in for repair.
Many many thanks in advance
Bump Im Stuck With This ****ty Radio!!help!!!tried Everything!!
I guess nobody knows (so far) how to downgrade from Hermes radio. I guess the only way is to directly flash via JTAG - if you can find the right pins in your Treo. I.e. something like the one discussed for Hermes in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391047
There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
tmknight said:
There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM
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What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.
Merlyn_3D said:
What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.
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with ATT here in NYC, i had issues with 1.54.30.10-- it would drop the signal and a reboot would be needed to get it back. or if you went underground, and came back up, it would not grab a signal for a few minutes, i would have to turn the radio off then back on to get reception.
the problem went away with 1.54.07.00
hi
NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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couple of questions:
bi differance from your old radio to the new one? where are you located on the at&t network?
if much better, can you give me a detailed step by step, with the right links?
thank you
NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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That's crap! 2.27 ROW Radio version is 1.54.01.00
NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00...
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Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!
tmknight said:
Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!
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i had flashed the different radio version via sd card. i actually bought a new treo when i realized i couldnt get it to revert down to an older version, and 1.54.30.10 was horrible with ATT in NYC. i would get on an elevator and lose service and have to cycle the radio to get service again
i wanted to sell the one of the treo 750s, but didnt want to stick the buyer with the crappy radio version. i tried the method someone else posted up and it worked, i was actually very surprised.
its sold and gone, working happily on att with the rom version i posted above.
the only thing i had done before the ill fated flash was to hard spl the device and sim unlock it.
i have no reason to make it up, i can assure you i was stuck on 1.54.30.10, as i went out and bought a new treo 750 to replace it when i couldnt get the radio flashed down. it was stuck as i had tried to reflash the radio SEVERAL times, both using the hermes flasher and the sd card method. it sat on my desk for a few months gathering dust.
i dont have a stake in this, as i actually dont even use the treo i have left anymore-- the second one that i never flashed to 1.54.30.10. i'm now using a kaiser.
all i can say is, i didnt think to take screenshots because why the heck would i make this up? the radio was stuck at 1.54.30.10. i simply followed another members instructions for the hell of it (i was about to rip it apart for spare parts) and lo and behold, the radio dropped to 1.54.07.00. sold it. done.
i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
was your device hard-spl'ed before you flashed the 1.54.30.10 rom?
Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.
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Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.
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same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
anyone?
Not even sure if there is a newer hermes radio out?
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i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
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It's amazing that you still cop to this when I SPECIFICALLY stated that was not what I was getting at...why do people WANT to feel as though they're being kicked?
Anyway...
From the relevant bits of your response, I have to believe your "success" in downgrade to lower version firmware was rooted in the fact that the firmware upgrade to 1.54.30.10 actually did not succeed. Sorry mate, this one's a dead end.
Still waiting for someone familiar with the firmware coding to step-up and help us out of this jam...Bueller?
ericizzy1 said:
same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
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That's my hope too, maybe the new WM6.1 ROM that we're promised will have a newer radio that can overwrite this one.
A little input
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?
I'm stuck with it!
summiter said:
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?
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Hi Summiter
Yes, I think there are a relatively large number of people stuck with it, judging by the threads I've been following in the hope that someone finds a solution. Whether it's enough people to motivate Oli or one of the other gurus is not certain though.
My device has better BT connectivity and louder speaker volume, but dumps most of my calls whenever the signal goes below 2 bars. Very upsetting for me and frustrating those at the other end.
It'd be great to get out of this jam - serves me right for playing with 'cooked' ROMs and such - but I love what these people do on XDA-Dev, and can't help but wanting to join the party.
Anyway, for this problem I'm almost resigned to junking the 750, and getting another device - maybe an HP 914c or a Treo 850 when they come out. I love my 750, but it's getting to be a real issue for me.
From posts here and other sites there appears to be a large number of 1.54.30.10 radios on Treo's. Though there appears to be a divide in those that feel it works fine vs those who know it does have issues. With that however, I feel the new devices on the horizon will soon make this discussion moot.
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I've had a really bad time with 1.54.30.10. Lots of dropped calls, crashed radio etc.
So many times I had to turn radio off then on to make a call.
GPRS would sometimes show connected but not transfer any data and it would need to be disconnected then reconnected.
Also, battery life was worse than before (I didn't think that was possible, Treo is so bad already).
I don't have time to try all the options listed above for returning to an older Radio so instead I'm trying the new Hermes Radio ROM: 1.56.70.11
I'll give it a couple of days then report back. Other Hermes users are reporting pretty bad battery life with it - but if the radio is more stable I'll stick with it.
If you want to try it yourself, the file name is
HERM_Radinly_1.56.70.11_CustomRUU
It was rock solid (for Windows Mobile, that is) on the 1.54.07 and older Radios.
I'm on Vodafone New Zealand by the way which is a 900/1800Mhz GSM, 2100Mhz 3G HSDPA network. We should be listing network frequencies here -- some Radio ROMs might be better or worse on particular frequencies.