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Upgrading Radio Rom ONLY

Is that possible? Everything I've read involving upgrading the ROM; I'm not interested in loosing all my settings etc, I just want a better radio ROM since mine looses EDGE/GPRS connection periodically. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.

This is possible to do. The files are in the usual place, and remember to unlock your CID first.
Be aware that it may claim that it will change your OS Rom version and/ir it may overestimate the time required--this is normal. Your OS Rom will stay the same and it should take only a minute or two.

I upgraded mine the night before last. I didn't use CID unlock or anything. I just d/l'd the file Wizard_GSM_11210.exe from the ftp and double clicked on it. It does tell you that you will lose everything and your OS is being upgraded, but that did not happen, it was just compiled with that installer, that's all, so don't worry.
My signal is stronger and my speakerphone works great now. I lost nothing and nothing else was changed.
Good luck.

Yep - done on my T-Mobile MDA. The stock radio ROM sucked bananas.

Will it adversely affect my Cingular 8125 in any way?

works!
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I installed the Wiz radio rom from the FTP site and it worked. EDGE and even Wifi seemed mroe stable and faster now. And all my data's still there!
As for the 8125, my friend got one of them and I'll ask him to try updating his radio rom with this same file and see if it breaks it.

Wow! It really does make a tremendous difference, thanks fellas!

which is the last version of the RADIO ROM ?
I got 01.13.10 inside the last WWE qtek wizard upgrade (1.6.7.1)

That's probably it. My phone came with 1.09 and the ROM I just applied is 1.12.

Would upgrading my MDA's Radio ROM to 1.13.10 adversely effect my battery life?

Well, if you get signals where you had none before, you might use the phone a lot more, so that would use more energy.
Seriously, I haven't noticed any difference in my battery's state of charge or rate of discharge.

So is it safe to say that the Radio ROM upgrades (1.12/1.13) are better than the stock US TMo MDA Radio ROM? I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to wind up with worse reception and/or a void warranty. Suggestions?

you could always use aWizard and backup your radio so if you need to return the unit for any reason, you could restore the old rom. i backed all of my stuff up and its sittin on in a folder hidden away

Thanks for the suggestion blazin...I'll have to start the process of learning about aWizard and how to use it.

Settings and whatnot
I have been trying to figure out the pluses to tampering, and this is one of the first threads where I have actually found a real positive. I am kinda simple though I have been weighing the options of flashing the ROM to reclaim some storage. I LIKE the voice dial on it right now. I could care less about the pdf viewer. I can download adobe and install it to SD. What other cabs in the extended ROM can I do without, how much storage can I reclaim, and how stable is the ROM I obtain. How difficult will it be to get the settings right to make good calls. I don't use edge or gprs for data. I do use wifi at home and around town. Is there a "for dummies" primer on how to do this. I am not a complete rookie with PPC, but I have no programming knowledge whatsoever. These threads rapidly leave me in the dust. I feel like a mule looking at a new gate quite often. :lol:

Not getting some texts/calls

After upgrading to an older release of WinMo6, I haven't been getting calls and texts most of the time. I still get calls and texts, but not all go through. Also, I can make calls and texts without problem. I believe this is due to a faulty Radio, is it?
Also, what is a good radio to base a newer installation of WinMo6 in? What are your guys' preferences for WinMo6 distributions and why? I'm still deciding x3.
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I'm on Cingular

You definitely want T-Mo UK 2.19.11 radio ROM. I'm on Cingular as well, and was missing some calls on 2.25.something with WM6, but after reading the Radio Upgraders Thread (should be one of the first listed here, its sticky--thanks Kyphur!) I downgraded just the radio rom and have had no problems. Faria as well recommends the 2.19.11 Radio ROM in his WM6 Thread. Can't get any better than that. Flashing a radio rom won't change any of your other settings, so its a pretty harmless operation.

I also see a new 2.40 rom from Faria, is that ok too?
Also, my WM6 is pretty old. I would like to upgrade it. What are the better choices out there now?
Also, you're on Cingular USA, right? I just don't want any mistakes lol.

Evera said:
I also see a new 2.40 rom from Faria, is that ok too?
Also, my WM6 is pretty old. I would like to upgrade it. What are the better choices out there now?
Also, you're on Cingular USA, right? I just don't want any mistakes lol.
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Feel free to try what you want, but myself and a lot of other Cingular users on all WM6 roms have only had good luck with the T-Mobile 2.19 UK Radio (and yes thats in the US). No missed calls or SMS. I've also tried the 2.40 one and you can read my report in that thread (in a nutshell, it quits working when the phone sleeps). So load up 2.19 and enjoy WM6 on Cingular. Downside is 2.19 seems a little weaker and slower to acquire signal. But its not much different for me than when I was on the stock ROM.

mfrazzz said:
Feel free to try what you want, but myself and a lot of other Cingular users on all WM6 roms have only had good luck with the T-Mobile 2.19 UK Radio (and yes thats in the US). No missed calls or SMS. I've also tried the 2.40 one and you can read my report in that thread (in a nutshell, it quits working when the phone sleeps). So load up 2.19 and enjoy WM6 on Cingular.
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After 2 weeks of trial and error, I am happy to say that mfrazzz's advice is spot on (and worked for me, finally!).
The last couple weeks have been hellish due to missed calls and texts. As a newly single guy, I can't afford to miss phone calls (or texts), if you know what I mean.

where can i find 2.47.11 radio rom to download

i went from 2.19 to 2.61 but not any better. can someone forward me the link to download 2.47.11 radio rom cab file?
i tried to search but when i put in the search field 2.47.11 radio rom, 21 pages of related topics pop up and i can't find anything in terms of downloading this rom.
thanks, m3m3

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279380

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279380
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hey xeno,
seeing that you are senior member, i have some questions for you.
how do you like 2.69 rom? here is my situation that i am running into with my 2.19 radio rom.
i cannot receive signal in my house but as soon as i walk outside, it get 4 bars but it takes awhile to recover. i tried 2.40 before but during a call, i could not switch over with call waiting and sometimes, when i call my voicemail, i could not hang up. so, i went back to 2.19. 2 days ago, i installed 2.61 but i don't get any better signal strength than 2.19. but with 2.61, i am experiencing the same problem of not being able to hangup during a call or navigating through my voicemail box. it seems as though it doesn't recognize any button inputs or touch screen inputs.
i bought a longer lasting battery for my MDA so power drain is no issue. the main issue is reception which i will trade off with battery life.
my question to you is are you happy with 2.69 with regard to reception and recovery of lost signal?
maybe i should try 2.69...can you point me to the download?
i am running SPL 2.17/IPL 2.17 on Faria's Crossbow
thanks in advance.
-Mike

2.69 isn't bad, but I liked 2.47 a lot better. Unfortunately 2.47 has problems with 2.47. I know that there were people working on solving the problems with most of the radio versions not working with WM6 but I haven't checked those threads in a while to see if anyones has solved it or not. I know they were getting somewhere when it came to the cingular netwrok working with them but I have t-mobile so that won't help me much.
I'm not sure where the 2.69 rom is off hand and don't feel like searching for it at the moment so I'll just upload it for you. Try out 2.47 first though and see if it works well for you. The navigation problem problem through your inbox might not be a radio problem, there are a few roms that have problems with DTMS which sends the tones over an already connected call. Theres quite a few threads on here about that problem, just search DTMS and you should be able to find something on ways to solve that problem.

xeno1 said:
I know that there were people working on solving the problems with most of the radio versions not working with WM6 but I haven't checked those threads in a while to see if anyones has solved it or not. I know they were getting somewhere when it came to the cingular netwrok working with them but I have t-mobile so that won't help me much.
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I've had 2.47 radio on a G3 ever since i flashed molki's 2.26 OS and have successfully used along with WM6 (since day one). Signal has always been strong even inside my house that is covered by a hill.
The only issue i'm experiencing is with TheEquinoxe's reTouched ROM and BT that pairs devices but they can't 'see' the phone but can't say if the radio is to be blamed for this.

i've searched for DTMS but the search pulled up nothing under Wizard except for this thread. any ideas??
xeno1 said:
2.69 isn't bad, but I liked 2.47 a lot better. Unfortunately 2.47 has problems with 2.47. I know that there were people working on solving the problems with most of the radio versions not working with WM6 but I haven't checked those threads in a while to see if anyones has solved it or not. I know they were getting somewhere when it came to the cingular netwrok working with them but I have t-mobile so that won't help me much.
I'm not sure where the 2.69 rom is off hand and don't feel like searching for it at the moment so I'll just upload it for you. Try out 2.47 first though and see if it works well for you. The navigation problem problem through your inbox might not be a radio problem, there are a few roms that have problems with DTMS which sends the tones over an already connected call. Theres quite a few threads on here about that problem, just search DTMS and you should be able to find something on ways to solve that problem.
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mestrini said:
I've had 2.47 radio on a G3 ever since i flashed molki's 2.26 OS and have successfully used along with WM6 (since day one). Signal has always been strong even inside my house that is covered by a hill.
The only issue i'm experiencing is with TheEquinoxe's reTouched ROM and BT that pairs devices but they can't 'see' the phone but can't say if the radio is to be blamed for this.
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Maybe it's just the .318 WM6 versions that have been having that problem then. Using any other radio versions with it other than 2.19 or 2.69 causes you to have a lot of missed calls.
m3m3, I'll have to do a little searching and see if I can find those threads for you. It's been a while since I've seen them.

Well, I figured out part of your search problem, it's DTMF not DTMS. Sorry about that.

Looks like reinstalling your phone dialer pad should fix the problem. The only other solutions I came across all involved doing a hard reset.

lol...thats fine man. after i installed 2.69 radio rom, i missed a buttload of calls especially from my wife which wasn't too good. had to go back to 2.19 radio. hopefully, someone can program a good radio rom that doesn't miss calls and increases reception otherwise, I will have to migrate to the iphone and to cingular (att)....
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Well, I figured out part of your search problem, it's DTMF not DTMS. Sorry about that.
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Howto downgrade radio-firmware 1.54.30.10 ??

Dear developers..
Is there a possibility that I can downgrade my radio firmware from 1.54.30.10 to let's say 1.54.01.00 or whatsoever?
I tried dozens of methods but non worked, spend 10+ hours on this forum.. none worked.
My specs:
Treo 750 unlocked
Windows Mobile 6 (previously 6.1 normal version)
Radio: 1.54.30.10 (Hermes one)
IPL 0.20
SPL 1.40
Netherlands / T-Mobile
And is it possible to rollback to the official Palm Bootloader? In case I have to send it in for repair.
Many many thanks in advance

Bump Im Stuck With This ****ty Radio!!help!!!tried Everything!!

I guess nobody knows (so far) how to downgrade from Hermes radio. I guess the only way is to directly flash via JTAG - if you can find the right pins in your Treo. I.e. something like the one discussed for Hermes in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391047

There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM

i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT

tmknight said:
There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM
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What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.

Merlyn_3D said:
What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.
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with ATT here in NYC, i had issues with 1.54.30.10-- it would drop the signal and a reboot would be needed to get it back. or if you went underground, and came back up, it would not grab a signal for a few minutes, i would have to turn the radio off then back on to get reception.
the problem went away with 1.54.07.00

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NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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couple of questions:
bi differance from your old radio to the new one? where are you located on the at&t network?
if much better, can you give me a detailed step by step, with the right links?
thank you

NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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That's crap! 2.27 ROW Radio version is 1.54.01.00

NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00...
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Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!

tmknight said:
Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!
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i had flashed the different radio version via sd card. i actually bought a new treo when i realized i couldnt get it to revert down to an older version, and 1.54.30.10 was horrible with ATT in NYC. i would get on an elevator and lose service and have to cycle the radio to get service again
i wanted to sell the one of the treo 750s, but didnt want to stick the buyer with the crappy radio version. i tried the method someone else posted up and it worked, i was actually very surprised.
its sold and gone, working happily on att with the rom version i posted above.
the only thing i had done before the ill fated flash was to hard spl the device and sim unlock it.
i have no reason to make it up, i can assure you i was stuck on 1.54.30.10, as i went out and bought a new treo 750 to replace it when i couldnt get the radio flashed down. it was stuck as i had tried to reflash the radio SEVERAL times, both using the hermes flasher and the sd card method. it sat on my desk for a few months gathering dust.
i dont have a stake in this, as i actually dont even use the treo i have left anymore-- the second one that i never flashed to 1.54.30.10. i'm now using a kaiser.
all i can say is, i didnt think to take screenshots because why the heck would i make this up? the radio was stuck at 1.54.30.10. i simply followed another members instructions for the hell of it (i was about to rip it apart for spare parts) and lo and behold, the radio dropped to 1.54.07.00. sold it. done.
i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
was your device hard-spl'ed before you flashed the 1.54.30.10 rom?

Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.

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PsyberEMT said:
Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.
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same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
anyone?

Not even sure if there is a newer hermes radio out?

NYITGUY said:
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i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
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It's amazing that you still cop to this when I SPECIFICALLY stated that was not what I was getting at...why do people WANT to feel as though they're being kicked?
Anyway...
From the relevant bits of your response, I have to believe your "success" in downgrade to lower version firmware was rooted in the fact that the firmware upgrade to 1.54.30.10 actually did not succeed. Sorry mate, this one's a dead end.
Still waiting for someone familiar with the firmware coding to step-up and help us out of this jam...Bueller?

ericizzy1 said:
same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
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That's my hope too, maybe the new WM6.1 ROM that we're promised will have a newer radio that can overwrite this one.

A little input
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?

I'm stuck with it!
summiter said:
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?
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Hi Summiter
Yes, I think there are a relatively large number of people stuck with it, judging by the threads I've been following in the hope that someone finds a solution. Whether it's enough people to motivate Oli or one of the other gurus is not certain though.
My device has better BT connectivity and louder speaker volume, but dumps most of my calls whenever the signal goes below 2 bars. Very upsetting for me and frustrating those at the other end.
It'd be great to get out of this jam - serves me right for playing with 'cooked' ROMs and such - but I love what these people do on XDA-Dev, and can't help but wanting to join the party.
Anyway, for this problem I'm almost resigned to junking the 750, and getting another device - maybe an HP 914c or a Treo 850 when they come out. I love my 750, but it's getting to be a real issue for me.

From posts here and other sites there appears to be a large number of 1.54.30.10 radios on Treo's. Though there appears to be a divide in those that feel it works fine vs those who know it does have issues. With that however, I feel the new devices on the horizon will soon make this discussion moot.

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I've had a really bad time with 1.54.30.10. Lots of dropped calls, crashed radio etc.
So many times I had to turn radio off then on to make a call.
GPRS would sometimes show connected but not transfer any data and it would need to be disconnected then reconnected.
Also, battery life was worse than before (I didn't think that was possible, Treo is so bad already).
I don't have time to try all the options listed above for returning to an older Radio so instead I'm trying the new Hermes Radio ROM: 1.56.70.11
I'll give it a couple of days then report back. Other Hermes users are reporting pretty bad battery life with it - but if the radio is more stable I'll stick with it.
If you want to try it yourself, the file name is
HERM_Radinly_1.56.70.11_CustomRUU
It was rock solid (for Windows Mobile, that is) on the 1.54.07 and older Radios.
I'm on Vodafone New Zealand by the way which is a 900/1800Mhz GSM, 2100Mhz 3G HSDPA network. We should be listing network frequencies here -- some Radio ROMs might be better or worse on particular frequencies.

ATT Tilt- possible radio problems, total noob needs help

Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max

one word for your info, "WIKI"

I did look over the wiki for some time, here is my hang up. Jockyw2001 posted in an SPL thread that "SPL3.56 is part of the latest AT&T Rom which is dated June 6. 2008" So since I did the official ATT upgrade and my ROM date is 07/17/08, does that mean that I already have SPL 3.56 on my device? I can not find a post about how to determine what SPL version (if any) is installed on my device. If SPL is already installed, is there any danger in installing an older version of SPL or reinstalling one?
Thanks again
-Max

maxjenius211 said:
Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max
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So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...

SavageWolf said:
So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...
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Yup, stock radio and rom as suggested by ATT, whom their customer service now claims they do not support WM6.1. I've never used a cooked rom and really only come here for device information and applications. I did have problems before I upgraded the rom but they have much worse since. The thread you posted is similar but they mostly talk about an "H" connection. I am in the DC metro area (USA) and get 3G all the time now, I wonder if that is part of the problem, I never get an EDGE network signal anymore.

Well... I just found THIS buried over on the ATT support forums
Clp1970 01-21-2009 10:33:16 AM
I guess we just got 3G network here. I haven't been able to make/receive calls for 5 days now. Tech support supposedly looking into issue. My phone switches bewteen 3G and EDGE constantly. Anyone else having this issue? What was the resolution? I don't want a refurbished Tilt if they can't come to a resolution (why would I want the same darn phone if it doesn't work well with 3G as advertised?) I have already drove 20 minutes to the nearest store for a new SIM card..which did no good. There isn't anyway of turning off 3G network unless I install software I have seen mentioned on this forum and well, I don't know about that...I paid for this phone to do what it said, and it isn't.
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And this is the reply to it over there....
tilteduser 01-21-2009 08:42:13 PM
Common problem that can be either due to problems with the rollout or that the local towers cannot handle 3G as effectively or at a greater distance as the same tower could for Edge. These are some related threads and posts but there are a lot more. As noted in these posts if there is a local AT&T store run by AT&T then you might pop in and confirm some of the problems with them.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103583&query.id=659420#M103583
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103054&query.id=659420#M103054
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...gular&message.id=92693&query.id=660536#M92693
The tendency is to blame the phone but the reality is often different and that includes from customer support who offered to swap my phone several times but this obviously would not work because it affected many other users as well differing phone manufacturers and models.
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Timing of it is close enough to make me wonder, but I had been using HSDPA.. But I have been getting the same problems you are talking about when the phone is set to 3g as well. The other thing that is starting to make me think its something ATT did to their network is that the OP from the thread that I linked on here lives 20 mins west of my location, and I am 15-20 mins north of DC... I may go to one of the local att stores and see what they have to say (tho that means for me that I get to flash my phone back to the stock rom )