I have installed the 1.12.10 GSM on it after making backups with aWizard. I am happy to report that it does work and that it does speed up the initial connection. Before (with 1.09.11 I beleive) I could log into (enter my PIN) and would still have some time before I would connect and get signal bars. It also seemed to increase refresh rates of the bars. Now the signal is usually found before I even finish entering my PIN muchless the today screen loading.
These tests were made in my basement at my house where I typically have been getting 1-3 bars. now to test 1.13.10 and 2.8 OS to see if it works.
I will say I thought it broke at first because I couldn't get my PC to talk to it after it reloaded, then I did another soft reset and the boot screen the second time didn't list the GSM version, even though the OS did see and use GSM. I re-ran the CID unlock procedure again since I could talk to the phone again. Reset again and GSM ver was on the boot screen again.
I also swapped out the boot screen for a bmp and that worked wonderfully. my only question is if there is a way to swap out the booting screen of the OS and not just the IPL Rom.
cheers,
ET
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
ok, i updated my 8125 to the new rom and am having two issues atm. first, the phone signal icon and the battery icon on the today screen is cut off so i only see the edge icon. secondly, i cannot start wifi at all, no matter what i do :\ (it looks like it's thinking but doesn't actually turn on ) now i did apply the cingular extended rom to this so i dont know if that caused both issues or not. as for edge performance, i'm in an area with bad signal so i couldnt exactly test it. i'm going to be clearing storage tonight and see if that fixes both issues or not. i haven't tested push e-mail as clubimates servers AREN'T supporting direct push (ie they don't have SP2 installed or have it enabled on exchange).
Locked up
Well I am noticing that it is locking up if I let it sit for a while to where I can't bring it back up. I have disabled the lock code to see if that fixes it.
I would have a feeling that the problems you are having are because of the enhanced rom difference. it won't hurt to try it as is like I did since you are having problems with it.
were can I fine install
I look for the rom in the ftp but there is no RUU install of 2.16.9.101 can you please tell me where can I fin this rom
thank you
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638
Scroll down to HTTP server link.
Cheers
thanks
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
after the upgrade i cant find the GPS ICON
even i try to delete the redirect string in the registry like i used to do before
still i cant see the icon on my setting page
please anyone noticed this problem ?
tx
exchguy said:
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
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i finally fixed the signal strength icon (but don't ask me how), but wifi is still borked
no more problems, lock ups or otherwise
My guess with my problems were related to Battery Pack Pro demo. Even on the original rom I couldn't get it to work right with the assignable hard keys.
Anyway, I did not modify the original EXE one bit like darkjedi said he did. He seems to be much more advanced as I don't know how to do what he did and not that familier with its registry settings yet. But I naver had any problems with Wifi nor with icon placement.
My home wifi does use WPS-PSK TKIP using a Netgear WG302. Battery life seems good, but I do get a little crackle every now and then on my end of the bluetooth handsfree. People I talk to haven't said they hear anything other than perfect clarity. I would have been told if they heard anything since part of my reason to spend the money now rather than later was my voice and signal quality on my old Nokia was getting to be bad and they wouldn't waste a second ragging me if voice and signal problems were re-appearing. But mostly the crackle is few and far between and usually when my headset is on the other side of my body or I am a few feet away from my phone.
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
i dnt see the rush to upgrade if u have a cingular 8125 since there goa offer rom upgrades for the unit. with all the bugs i rather just get a ad2 bt plugin (wish they made it) and just do that
what roms do they offer? On my past phones I have had to have major problems before they would flash a new version of the Rom (my last 2 symbian phones).
darkjedi said:
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
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ok... the only cab I installed for Cingular was the one I mentioned earlier. I have since installed spb power plus and their weather app and I am still stable. Not one failuer and my bluetooth is actually acting better from some reason. I was working on my car today with teh phone in the car and I was about 10 feet away without any noise or other problems.
Re: thanks
ethorn said:
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
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Is there any settings to configure edge? I only see GPRS in the connections section.
This version appears quite stable but's only my second day since upgrading my 8125 from the QTECH 2.8.7.102. I really like the Comm manager and the Push Email icon works great.
Thanks!
name of account
the only thing that I have notice so far is that the name of my celular company (I could see before upgrade) now i only see numbers.
exchguy said:
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
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On the new imate ROM I'm getting between 65 and 110 kbps on edge. Latency is still crap at about 1.5 seconds on average, but that's what it's always been for me.
Direct push is great. Assuming you have Exch SP2 installed, push works without any other changes. I'm averaging between 7 and 10 seconds for an entry to push out after it gets to Exchange. I haven't installed the device management tools yet, but I'll do that soon and let you know how well they work.
I just noticed wifi isn't working. If I enable it in comm manager, the button is ringed in green as if it's on, but the left green led does not blink and it does not detect my open, unsecured access point. I did install the cabs from my original cingular extended rom, and one of those appears realted to wifi, but not sure what it does. I'll mess around some more and see what I can do. I'm not totally heartbroken that wifi is messed up, but it does bug me that I don't know why it aint working.
Need Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab file
ethorn said:
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
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Where did you get the "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" file? I have searched everywhere and cannot find it! Help?
Related
Hi
I have been playing with this for a day now, and it has introduced more bugs in the wifi functionality. If you want to use WiFi from your IIs then I would avoid this 'update' like the plauge.
What you get:
- ROM: 1.31.00 WWE (13th Dec 04) so this is 2.5 months old
- Radio 1.06.00 (1.06.02 is latest)
- ExtRom: 1.31.139 WWE (no real updates to existing progs)
Whats Better
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- The camera performs better in low light conditions (I used to get vertical lines on the screen
- Bluetooth stack build 3500. A vast improvement, but the latest is now build 3900 which some say solves the 'scratching noise' that is heard in some headsets
Whats Worse/Not Fixed
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- O2 Active V3.5. Its bloody awful - spends its life redrawing the screen, its very sluggish, and adds nothing to the today screen. I never used to use the old version, but having the O2 icon was handy for its ability to list the active connections and terminate them. Much is made of the ability to change the position of the icon (which I never found to be a problem in the first place. Tapping the new icon starts O2 Active rather than listing the active connections. To list active connections, you need to tap and hold for 5 seconds. I find that after tapping and holding, I get the menu, but that the menu then fails to respond to my 'close connection' taps. I reverted back to the old O2 active program.
- WiFi. They have completely buggered it up. It was unreliable at best beforehand. I have a network at home, which I finally pursuaded the device to connect to after multiple resets. I headed into work this morning (2 AP's) switched it on, and it just sat there searching for the network. I went into Tools-->Network cards, and see the work network listed as 'connected' (it was not connected, I had not given it the PSK yet). I soft reset the device, and it finally saw the network and prompted with the usual 'Internet/Work' dialogue. I was then asked for the pass key. At this point I noticed that there is no longer a possibility to activate the soft keyboard in order to enter the pass key (A right pain in the arse when the passkey is just a random multicase/numeric key, and all you get are ** on the dialogue). Anyway, I entered the key, and the device refused to get a valid IP address. Doing IPconfig showed that the wireless card was trying to use an old GPRS IP!!! I tried a renew (3rd party ipconfig tool). I tried stopping and starting wifi. Eventually, I soft reset (still the same), so I stopped wifi, soft reset, started wifi - and *finally* it decided to go and get itsself an IP address. (this is a bug I saw in the old firmware, but its worse than it used to be).
- WiFi still marks the wrong networks as 'available', i.e at work, 10 miles from home, my home network is marked as 'available' and my work network is marked as 'unavailable' !!! (this is an old bug)
- In Network adapters, the dialogue, 'My Work Network Connects To:' is blank, and there is no longer a possibility to select work/internet (options are blank). This is new to v1.31.139 (anyone else also missing this)
- If you select a wifi connection and change it from being a 'work' connection to an 'internet' connection then the change does not stick. This is new to v1.31.139
- In the MMS applet, it is no longer possible to select a 'modem' directly. I used to be able to select 'O2 Active'. You now have to select a profile that includes an appropriate modem. This is new to v1.31.139
- When editing a network profile in 'network management' eg: My ISP. the device still forgets to display existing modem/vpn connections. (same as old version).
Out Of Date Software / missing software
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- Photo Contacts (CallerId cab) is still version 1.17 (latest is 1.20)
- Missing O2 plus - other o2 devices include this
- Missing Intelipad
- Missing Smartdialer
- Old build of Java Midlet software
- Old build of MMS composer software
Other Thoughts
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For my money, the device feels more sluggish than it did before. Though its difficult to prove this!
O2 has spent far too much time on that O2 Active rubbish - does *anyone* actually use this [email protected]?? - and not enough time integrating/testing the latest versions of CE, drivers, and third party apps.
I'll add more to this as I find new bugs, and send it all off to O2 in a couple of weeks.
What I am now using
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I am now using v1.31.139 + Bluetooth build 3900 + PhotoContacts 1.20 + Java build 1004.
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Additions: 1/3/05
- SMS notify no longer seems to work. Anyone else suffer from this? MMS notify works fine and SMS notify is switched on. Perhaps the notify event is missing, but I have no idea how to sort this.
- VPN over wireless lan is still not possible - it tries and fails to connect. VPN over GPRS still works OK.
Additions 02/03/05
- SMS Notify problem is *not* to do with the rom update. I removed the registry key: HKLM\software\microsoft\inbox\svc\outlook since I had no need for the outlook folder in inbox. Removing this also kills off SMS notify!! I backed up, hard reset, preventing the stuff in the extended rom from installing. Installed PHM regedit, exported the outlook key, restored my backup and imported the reg key!!
- Internet/Work settings missing from Wlan setup. After restoring the backup, these had returned. Pretty strange, perhaps they were linked to the same registry key. No additional software bar the contents of the extended rom had been installed. If anyone else gets this, I suggest back, hard reset, restore might fix it.
Regards
Nigel
I have the same version with the latest radio build and cannot got the device to connect to my home Wifi what so ever.
Not exactly much use. It detects the network but refuses to connect. Either it says its connected but does not get an IP or it continously prompts for the network key.
I have also upgraded and am finding that the device often freezes when I try and switch it off, this happens about once or twice a day needing a soft reset.
I dont use the active stuff (which I never use) and am dissapointed that the O2 icon now starts O2 active rather than list the state of connections and allow you to trun them off i.e GPRS.
I agree the device does seem to be slower, I think I will be going back to the original code base and applying the BT patches, anyone know where there is a CAB installer for 3900?
check the ftp server
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/CAB_Files/Bluetooth Upgrades/
username xda
password xda
its the file that ends in 3900.
I installed 3900 over the recent O2 update (3500) and all went fine. Just do a soft reset before playing with bluetooth or it will moan about an expired stack.
Nigel
SMS Notify
Hi
Anyone else found that the SMS notify stops working once the latest O2 update is installed. MMS notify works, but SMS does not - its damned anoying!
UPDATE: Found the reason for this see end of original post
Nigel
Thanks for the comments on the update. I think I will stay with the original 1.12 ROM! Where can you get the other updates for the Camera and Java and Bluetooth etc? I'm currently running Bluetooth 3500.
Cheers
This is why you should sell you XDA IIs on ebay and buy a XDA IIi :lol:
Well that IS a concept! Thanks made me grin!
Hi since I installed the new Rom, my clock keep on freezing. The phone goes on standby > then it freeze. If I wake up the phone , it will still be frozen.
I have to click on start > Today in order to refresh it. :evil:
Any ideas ? It's still happening with no other today pluggin. :x
Would you recommend we dont bother upgrading the ROM atm then?
I upgraded also - the process was simple and took around 10 mins. This made my Bluetooth much more reliable and over a greater distance. I also find the 2s locks up frequently and requires soft resets.
Does anybody know how to remove the entire o2 software - I dont know anybody that uses it and Im sure it would speed up the whole device.
Remove entire O2 software:
You mean everything in the extended rom or just o2 active?
Hard reset, and when the message pops up about installing blah in 3 seconds (after you have done the touchscreen config) then soft reset. This gets you a plain vanilla HTC Blue Angel before the operator has installed its sh1te on it.
You can then selectively install just the bits you want, download the extended rom from the ftp site here, or unlock yr extended rom, copy out the cabs to main memory/SD etc, and then tap just the ones you want to install them.
If you just want rid of o2 active, then hard reset, and wait until the corporate/personal? message appears and then soft reset. O2 active is the last thing to be installed.
Nigel
mhanbury:
Hunt them down on the FTP site. Compare the version/build numbers with those in the new O2 extended rom.
Nigel
eskimofisherman said:
I upgraded also - the process was simple and took around 10 mins. This made my Bluetooth much more reliable and over a greater distance. I also find the 2s locks up frequently and requires soft resets.
Does anybody know how to remove the entire o2 software - I dont know anybody that uses it and Im sure it would speed up the whole device.
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Hard-reset your xda.
When the Personal/Corporate screen comes up, select corporate and enter 0506 - zero five zero six
This won't install active.
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
jeux_1 said:
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
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If you buy a new XDAIIs in the UK now you will get it with :
ROM Version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio Version: 1.06.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
ExtROM Version: 1.31.139 WWE
Ive had mine for 2 days now and ive had to soft reset about 6 times! and Hard reset once!
and this is annoying the hell out of me! can anyone tell me what im doing wrong. Why is it that whenever I do a hard reset I have to change the name of my activesync folder? If I try to keep them the same, it says I cant because there is already a device with that name!?!? :twisted: Or am I just being a noob?
irelmo said:
jeux_1 said:
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
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and this is annoying the hell out of me! can anyone tell me what im doing wrong. Why is it that whenever I do a hard reset I have to change the name of my activesync folder? If I try to keep them the same, it says I cant because there is already a device with that name!?!? :twisted: Or am I just being a noob?
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This is really wierd. My IIs works fine - doesn't lock up, doesn't need hard resets or anything so drastic. I don't have any other apps on the device though, just the standard one's O2 supplies (GPRS Monitor etc).
What other apps are people running? I'm guessing Today screen plugins are causing grief (Pocket+ etc)
yeah I did tried my phone with no today plug in but it is still crap, was working just fine with the previous rom......... what have I done :x
At least it keeps me busy....
The problem is you should have bought a XDA IIi not a XDA IIs.
Mike
Any of you 8125 owners who installed the imate 2.16.9.101 release have any new feedback on how it's going? Are there still issues with the connection icons or wifi connectivity?
I'm eager to get push mail working and have not been able to get a straight answer from a dozen different folks at Cingular on when their release will come out...so I might give the imate release a shot.
What about going back to the shipping Cingular version after installing the imate update - is it easy/possible? Any problems with extended ROM?
thx
I never even used the phone with the original cingular firmware, I went directly to the Q-tek Test rom. From that rom to this rom, the radios seem a little better (getting better signal, edge seems slightly faster, wifi picks up network much faster) and for some reason the whole feel is "snappier" seems like the menus and such load faster. I haven't had any stability issues, and push is working perfect.
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
Great thanks for the feedback yall. So once I do the upgrade, how hard will it be to go back to the shipped version if I ever need to? I have everything backed up using awizard, but I understand there could be problems trying to go to a previous version. I think downgrading via the bootloader mode requires executable rom images, but there isn't one available for the shipping version.
You can still downgrade to an old imate ROM and then use aWizard to restore your cingular ROM.
I have installed it on my Qtek 9100.
I hanged 5 times in 2 days.
What is more annoying is when it hangs and
someone tries to call me at the same time, the
other party hears my phone ringing, but my
Qtek is dead silent.
ethorn said:
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
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Is your wifi working OK? If so, did you install any of the cingular exrom customizations?
Just curious, because I installed the released imate rom and everything is working like a champ except wifi. I installed some of the original customizations from the cingular exrom and I wonder if one of those cabs did something to the wifi config...
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
nickcerda said:
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
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It won't turn on.. =)
I thought perhaps it was one of the cingular customization cabs I installed from the original exrom, but now I'm not so sure. I looked at all the cabs and the only one that relates to wifi is the cab that sets the key to enable talking to 802.11g APs.
In comm manager, if I click the wifi icon, it appears to attempt to start wifi, but then goes back to an "x" over the wifi button. The wifi radio doesn't start and the left LED that blinks when wifi is on does not come on.
I wish there were some logs to look at on this thing to see why it's failing to start wifi..
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
I have a Dopod 838 (identical to 8125, I suppose). The new ROM has worked awesome for me. Better in every way. Even the infamous Activesyn problem went away
I am getting ready to take the plunge...just in case...
does anyone have the original 8125 ROM?
I use SPB backup can restore a backup after I upgrade?
I installed this rom on my 9100, and it is much better than it was with any of the other roms including the original shipped rom!
The radio is much clearer and the wifi hooks up faster and runs better, and I have had absolutely NO lock ups at all.
Later
I am thinking of installing it on an 8125...
Without a backup 'known good' ROM to revert back to I am cautious
summiter said:
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
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I added the extROM files one by one to see which one caused the wifi issue and it was Signed-gprsstall_128.sa.cab...so far. It was only the third one in a series of 17. I'll see what happens when I add the rest. This cab file moves a radio.dll file around.
I've installed this ROM on 2 8125's. Much better and faster than Cingular's ROM. The only thing I did was to install the Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab, Microsoft Voice and TRE Pocket PC registry editor and remove all traces of the Voice Command. WiFi connects to my secured access point flawlessly (though I never use WiFi) and the AKU2 push email typically has my emails coming in in about 8-10 seconds from my Exchange 2003 server. Very infrequent lockups, much less than any other ROM I've installed.
Just my two cents worth ...
Steven
ROM version: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio version: 02.07.10
Protocol version: 413.1.03
ExtROM version: 2.16.9.101
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
nickcerda said:
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
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the one thing I see is it sets up the GPRS settings for data connection ... you do not need it to make phone calls or use Wifi
Step by step to 2.16
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
Re: Step by step to 2.16
dmelton75 said:
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
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Interesting you say you're no stranger to flashing ROMs but then ask for a step by step.
It's laid out quite well in several topics, but basically:
-Use awizard and enable rapi
-Use awizard and CID unlock
-Use awizard to back up Extrom, radio, splash, os
-Run the executable RUU installer for the imate
-On first boot, as soon as you get prompted to choose a carrier, do a soft reset to prevent the imate ext rom stuff from loading
-Install desired customization items from your backed up cingular ext rom. Any of them can be installed EXCPET the gprsstall cab - it will kill your wifi.
There is currently no way to unlock the ext rom in the lates imate upgrade, so you're stuck with what's in there, but you don't have to let it install.
I have CID Unlocked my 8125 and upgraded numerous times. In my playing around with the roms and Cingular Ext Rom cabs i found an intersting abberation. No matter what Rom I use if I the cingular 1.08 extended Rom cabs and install them on my 8125 and Run one cab in particular. it is the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. Then I flash my radio ROM twice. I then have 4 bars of reception just about anywhere i go. For example on of our stores we normally get 0-1 bars of reception, but when i do the above mentioned process I get 4 bars at the cost of a little more battery power. But when i do this I cannot use the wifi. I click on the wifi icon in the connection manager and it thinks for a little bit then goes back to the icon with the x in it. Anyone got any ideas?? Like the extra power but want to use wifi.
barrydavisjr said:
I have CID Unlocked my 8125 and upgraded numerous times. In my playing around with the roms and Cingular Ext Rom cabs i found an intersting abberation. No matter what Rom I use if I the cingular 1.08 extended Rom cabs and install them on my 8125 and Run one cab in particular. it is the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. Then I flash my radio ROM twice. I then have 4 bars of reception just about anywhere i go. For example on of our stores we normally get 0-1 bars of reception, but when i do the above mentioned process I get 4 bars at the cost of a little more battery power. But when i do this I cannot use the wifi. I click on the wifi icon in the connection manager and it thinks for a little bit then goes back to the icon with the x in it. Anyone got any ideas?? Like the extra power but want to use wifi.
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I seem to remember sumitter mentioning something about him leaving that particular cab out of his ROM's due to that WIFI issue...
Dr Puttingham said:
I seem to remember sumitter mentioning something about him leaving that particular cab out of his ROM's due to that WIFI issue...
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I have been searching for days on wifi issues. I tell you the trade off is almost worth it. I find it very interseting quirk how the wifi doesn't work but the reception of the phone is increased. I wish i knew more about it to find out why it happens like that.
I don't use Wifi at all having unlimited data tariff, and the reception where I live is absolutely terrible- most of the time no signal at all.
Is it possible to install that cab and then uninstall it somehow without the hard reset? If I need to use wifi abroad etc.
Could someone please post it here?
rottie said:
I don't use Wifi at all having unlimited data tariff, and the reception where I live is absolutely terrible- most of the time no signal at all.
Is it possible to install that cab and then uninstall it somehow without the hard reset? If I need to use wifi abroad etc.
Could someone please post it here?
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If you go to the FTP and go to wizard page and the Extended Rom. Look for the Cingular_8125_108EXTROM. download it and unzip it and look for the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. You will then have to falsh your radio twice. I reccomend Summiters 2.17 and then the wizard 2.25. I have not been able to figure out how to disable it through the registry. I don't know what settings that it is playing with. Each time i had to hard reset to remove the problem.
barrydavisjr said:
If you go to the FTP and go to wizard page and the Extended Rom. Look for the Cingular_8125_108EXTROM. download it and unzip it and look for the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. You will then have to falsh your radio twice. I reccomend Summiters 2.17 and then the wizard 2.25. I have not been able to figure out how to disable it through the registry. I don't know what settings that it is playing with. Each time i had to hard reset to remove the problem.
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Too much hassle with hard reset and reinstalling everything...Can't be bothered then, even for improved reception...
Noone calls me anyway
rottie said:
Too much hassle with hard reset and reinstalling everything...Can't be bothered then, even for improved reception...
Noone calls me anyway
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Drives me nuts. I never use wifi but i always want everything to work perfectly though.
I found the file that causes the conflict but have not been able to remove or correct it. When you install the gprsstall cab it installs a file rilgsm.dll. When i renamed it through the active sync for a brief moment the wifi appeared again until Windows automatically duplicated the file and put it back on.
Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can resolve/give suggestion for my problem.
Basically i have experience problems connecting via Wi-Fi i.e the after activating wi-fi the phone will scan for available networks and give you the list. I then try to connect to my router (bt home hub which is actually speed touch) it does connect and stays connected for some time then suddenly the connection is dropped and under wifi it says that my access point is unavailable. If i turn wifi off/on again and scan for networks it comes up with "No visible Networks detected" even though there are like 5 access points in my house and i can connect to any of them using my laptop and old nokia e60. If i wait a while it will connect again but will not keep the connection. I have tried at home, work and some public places-every time is the same story.
Things i tried:
Soft reset/hard reset (many times)
Tried disabling phone radio in case3g chip interrupts
I tried with secure networks, open networks, different types of authentication/encryption, different router (more than 10) and every its the same story. I also tried several ROMS and ALL RADIO's available with the same result.
I am currently on Duttys_Diamv2.3 WWE RADIO 1.00.25.08, its a clean flash, nothing else is installed. I also have SPL-1.40Olinex installed (not sure if that could have an impact) The phone is vodafone branded btw (i had the same issue with vodafone rom which is why i decided to try other roms). I wonder if anyone has any thoughts/suggestions and would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
The same situation happened to my Diamond. I took it to the local dealer for HTC and after several days, I am told that the main board will need replacement. I am still waiting for it to be repaired as the parts had to be braught in from another country. I was also saud if the phone was less than a month old (which it is not) they would have replaced it with a new phone.
Good luck repairing yours and keep us updated.
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The same situation happened to my Diamond. I took it to the local dealer for HTC and after several days, I am told that the main board will need replacement. I am still waiting for it to be repaired as the parts had to be braught in from another country. I was also saud if the phone was less than a month old (which it is not) they would have replaced it with a new phone.
Good luck repairing yours and keep us updated.
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Thanks Omar, I was kinda thinking that it may be hardware issue, but I don't anymore, I am trying something else actually as we speak. The only thing I haven't tried before is another hard SPL and I think that's the problem, I installed another version hspl1.34 and it seems more stable now and wifi keep connection, also with another hspl version (it was hspl 1.24) RAM under devise info>hardware showed 128, now it is 192. I will test in intensively and post my results here in case nay one else have the same issue. Hopefully I will not have to send it away for repair. Thanks for your info anyways.
In risk of sounding lame ...
Have ya tried 'Start' / 'Settings' / 'System' 'Wireless LAN'
Under Wireless LAN click 3'rd tab (strømtilstand in Danish - could be power-settings)
On that tab - pull the marker way to the left in order not to minimize the power consumption when tryng to hookup with the WiFi.
I had massive problems to get my local WiFi working at home - until I did this trick.
Best luck, Kindly
Kwasmir said:
In risk of sounding lame ...
Have ya tried 'Start' / 'Settings' / 'System' 'Wireless LAN'
Under Wireless LAN click 3'rd tab (strømtilstand in Danish - could be power-settings)
On that tab - pull the marker way to the left in order not to minimize the power consumption when tryng to hookup with the WiFi.
I had massive problems to get my local WiFi working at home - until I did this trick.
Best luck, Kindly
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Yes i have thats the first thin you do anyways . I am now more than sure that the issue was with HSPL version 1.34, as soon as i got rid of it (installed hspl 1.24) all is fine.
With my phone, i tired all Hard SPL versions and even went back to stock SPL & Rom 1.37 & 1.93 and it still didn't fix the WIFI issue. it will work for 5-15 minutes then it will not work.
Anyway, I got a replacement phone as apparently they couldn't fix it.
pufeks said:
Hi all,
I wonder if anyone can resolve/give suggestion for my problem.
Basically i have experience problems connecting via Wi-Fi i.e the after activating wi-fi the phone will scan for available networks and give you the list. I then try to connect to my router (bt home hub which is actually speed touch) it does connect and stays connected for some time then suddenly the connection is dropped and under wifi it says that my access point is unavailable. If i turn wifi off/on again and scan for networks it comes up with "No visible Networks detected" even though there are like 5 access points in my house and i can connect to any of them using my laptop and old nokia e60. If i wait a while it will connect again but will not keep the connection. I have tried at home, work and some public places-every time is the same story.
Things i tried:
Soft reset/hard reset (many times)
Tried disabling phone radio in case3g chip interrupts
I tried with secure networks, open networks, different types of authentication/encryption, different router (more than 10) and every its the same story. I also tried several ROMS and ALL RADIO's available with the same result.
I am currently on Duttys_Diamv2.3 WWE RADIO 1.00.25.08, its a clean flash, nothing else is installed. I also have SPL-1.40Olinex installed (not sure if that could have an impact) The phone is vodafone branded btw (i had the same issue with vodafone rom which is why i decided to try other roms). I wonder if anyone has any thoughts/suggestions and would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
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...I have the same problems with you
However, I think the problem may caused by different ROM versions.
My hTC version Diamond initially flashed a Chinese version ROM, and the WiFi connects well, while I changed to Dutty's most updated ROM, this problem comes and I cannot figure out why untill now.
Some friends also suggested to go to the Power Management and change WiFi to "Best Performance", I tried and failed again.
WiFi can open and connect to Routers located in library of my university, nevertheless it cannot open any pages.
I'm also waiting for any person that can solve the problem and then help us figure out why....
thanks in advance!
I got the same problem as most of the people have. and i think "Fail to turn on wifi" is a very common among guyz who got HTC TD.
I dont know what should be done, i almost tried every thing. actually my phone was locked to 3 mobile Sweden and i unlocked it but my wifi was'nt working before unlocking too but i did'nt gave attention to it. Now i noticed it.. is that any one know how to lock it again soo that i can send my mobile for repairs or, any one know what should i do.
I would recommend upgrading your radio and your rom.
Ive been rocking the setup in my sig for some weeks now and its been flawless, stable and fast.
which rom and radio you are using. can you please help me in this matter.
and i think its not a hardware problem because its showing that hardware is connected to my device as its shown in the screen shoot
Hi,
Im using AlphaZero V7 NLD,
Im have 1 wifi point in my house, downstairs.
even when im on the attic i have 80% signal strengt.
My router is a draytek 2820G router.
Wifi for me is very good. .. correctly, AZTOR V7 NLD is very good for me.
im on t-mobile network.
Radio Radio v1.00.25.05 , Radio v1.00.25.08, Radio v1.00.25.16, where all good,
now testing Radio v1.08.25.20, HDSPA signal is bit weaker atm.
my best radia atm i think, v1.00.25.08.
im betting, that the starter of this toppic, who has 5 access points in his house all have the same SSID. This is not the way.
Or make 1 big AP aera, bij connecting the AP's to each other.
of try to set every AP its own SSID, and its own Channel.
Louis
WIFI problem in HTC Diamond.........
I am trying connecting to my home wireless network. It finds the network but unable to connect to it. Any help please? Has anyone managed to get it connected to any Wifi? I ahve already set the power management to "best performace...no succes.......
(My laptop and O2 stealth does get connected to the same network and it an open wifi connection)...........PLZ Help.....
pranavsethi said:
I am trying connecting to my home wireless network. It finds the network but unable to connect to it. Any help please? Has anyone managed to get it connected to any Wifi? I ahve already set the power management to "best performace...no succes.......
(My laptop and O2 stealth does get connected to the same network and it an open wifi connection)...........PLZ Help.....
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i am also having this problem, it can find the network, and can spend a minute or 2 trying to connect, and nothing happens. you posted this in february, did you find an answer?
Wifi & Bluetooth not detected by HTC Diamond
Someone pl help. My HTC Diamond is not detecting bluetooth devices neither is detecting wifi. It was earlier doing so and working fine however I believe after installing tweak TD & t3d config it has stopped working. I have installed new ROM also but to no avail. Can someone pl help!!!!!!!!
Wintermoonlight said:
i am also having this problem, it can find the network, and can spend a minute or 2 trying to connect, and nothing happens. you posted this in february, did you find an answer?
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i also have the same problem. it detects a wifi (my router at home Aztech brand), then trying to connect to it, and then it always showed the wifi as "unavailable". i put my phone 2 mm distance from the antenna of my router it also won't connect. i have change dozens of roms, win 6.1, 6.5, 6.5.1, different cook, MTTY, all with no success.
i've looked for internet and google for answers, i seen quite a lot of forum has described this issue, but with no solution. most of the ppl suggest in various forums to pull the wireless slider to "Best Performance", ofcourse i have done that, but is just the same result.
i'm still trying searching for a solution for this, i hope is not a hardware issue because my warranty has already ended. i'm currently using Gen Y R4.1B rom
pufeks said:
Yes i have thats the first thin you do anyways . I am now more than sure that the issue was with HSPL version 1.34, as soon as i got rid of it (installed hspl 1.24) all is fine.
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Ok consider now wifi will work by re-flashing the spl.
But what is the relation between spl (os/winmo loader) with wifi?
another dang unsolved diamond wifi?
bravo.
same problem with wifi on diamond2
With Original stock WM6.1 i was unable to connect at all, after flashed official WM6.5 upgrade everything worked fine. However i decided to put cooked rom because of battery life and perfomance issues. Dutty HG6 for Topaz seems to be with glitchy radio, it works sometimes, very rare, and i'm still not up to the pattern when does it happen and why. Pretty sure it's not a hardware problem - so everybody relax, we will find the solution.
which rom and radio you are using. can you please help me in this matter.
and i think its not a hardware problem because its showing that hardware is connected to my device as its shown in the screen shoot
wjenya said:
With Original stock WM6.1 i was unable to connect at all, after flashed official WM6.5 upgrade everything worked fine. However i decided to put cooked rom because of battery life and perfomance issues. Dutty HG6 for Topaz seems to be with glitchy radio, it works sometimes, very rare, and i'm still not up to the pattern when does it happen and why. Pretty sure it's not a hardware problem - so everybody relax, we will find the solution.
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nope, i also put Gen.Y WM6.5 then the problem still arise.
i'll wait any solution until my diamond is totally wrecked
Hi everyone
my first post, I have a problem with my Diamond on Orange.
My data connection seems to lock out if I have been in an area of low coverage this results in not being able to connect to my Gmail account using the email function of the phone.
I have downloaded and installed the wm 6.1 patch for fixing corrupt email account. The workaround now though is when it still locks me out of using my data connection I have to reboot the phone.
I have also installed the official new rom from the Orange site, can't access the HTC site ROMs as my device serial code is linked to Orange
It's very frustrating having to reboot your phone 6 times a day (my office is in a low coverage area)
also since last week the phone makes no sound for SMS, MMS, calendar reminders etc. I have checked the sounds associated with these events and they play ok when you click to test them but not when an SMS etc arrives
please help, I'm locked in to this phone till next Aug
Thanks in advance
Steve
Try this...
Rather than rebooting your device, have you tried going to the settings tab on TF3D, selecting communications and tap the 'Data Connection' setting? I'm not sure about the stock Orange ROM, it may not have the option to switch the data connection on and off. If it hasn't, try turning Airplane mode on then off again. Your connection should then be re-established.
As for your sound issue... make sure you have the check box selected for 'Events'. Go to Settings / Personal / Sounds & Notifications and check the top most box
Thanks for the info Graham.
I can confirm that the box 'Events (warnings, system events)' is checked but still no sounds on sms, calendar event etc
not sure where I find the settings tab on TF3D but can try the airplane mode tomorrow at work were I have the low coverage issue.
Thanks for taking the time to give the advice.
Is there a new rom out there I could install as a permanent fix for the data issue?
Thanks
Steve
Mmmm...
Not sure whether a ROM change will cure your problems. It may just be related to your carrier (Orange). I've tried numerous ROM's and radios, but never had an issue with the data. You could try flashing a different radio. Do you know what version your device is running now?
If you look here, you'll find all the various radios available. I'd definitely start with a radio change before flashing ROM's if you're happy with your Orange ROM that is
Hi
The Radio is 1.00.25.05, (ROM is 1.93.405.1 WWE)
are these any good ones or should I update to a new Radio
Thanks again
Steve
Mmmm...
That's what I thought... both the ROM and Radio version are very old (by XDA standards!). I would certainly upgrade your radio, if not the ROM as well. Make sure you upgrade the HardSPL first though or you'll end up with a nice paper weight!
Follow this tutorial to the letter and you'll be fine. That's all I did. Most of the custom ROM's here don't include a Radio, so you'll need to upgrade that seperately. It's all in the guide. If you've already upgraded the SPL, you can go ahead and flash a ROM / Radio.
The ROM I'm using is Gen.Y D2 R4.2 which you'll find in the ROM section along with a host of others. In my opinion, it's the best by far
Thanks Graham will read all the info and give it a go
Steve
Hi
Managed to get radio 1.13.25.24 on but can't find a live link for ROM Y D2 R4.2
any chance you could post one for me
Many thanks for all the help up to now, I'm realy looking forward to my Diamond working like it should
Thanks
Steve
Link...
Hi. The download links are halfway down Post #2 of the ROM thread... CLICK HERE
Hi
Thanks for all your help. I am now running on radio 1.13.25.24 and ROM Y D2 R4.2
Early days but there is defiantly some improvement in data connection/reception but I am still getting the issue where the data connection corrupts and won't connect even when full network coverage is restored.
Thanks for the workaround suggestion re turning airplane mode on then off this does work and negates having to re-boot.
Is there any way I can overcome the basic issue re the data connection corrupting in low coverage areas?
Is a radio available that will up the coverage even more, battery life is not important to me?
Thanks again
Steve
Tip...
Another way, which may be quicker. On the settings tab in TF3D, tap connections and you should have a 'Data Connection' option. If you switch this off to disconnect your GSM data connection, the next time your device needs to connect it will re-establish the connection. This doesn't help with your issue, but it is quicker than turning Airplane mode on and off.
It might be worth posting in the Radio thread to see if anyone has experienced this on Orange and found a workaround. Like I said, I've not experienced data issues like this, so I can't really help. You've changed your ROM and your Radio, so it seems it's not ROM or Radio specific... it does seem to point to carrier??
Hi Graham
I’ve spent some time getting used to the new ROM, it seems to be a big improvement over the standard Orange one and I do occasionally get a data connection in my office which is unusual. I think what I really need is some sort of signal booster stuck to the window.
One thing I notice with the new ROM is a lack of a calculator; can I add this on in some way?
Thanks
Steve