Hi,
Just wanted to get BT working well on my PDA2k.
Did the Radio upgrade as told in wiki to 1.10 - as I saw a few comments saying 1.12 was unstable.
WEnt through fine, except now I cannot get a phone signal at all and the phone call buttons don't work.
What is the best thing to do? Should I just do the whole upgrade to 1.40. I read that the phone was locking up on this and was not confident to do the fix.
Appreciate your help.
(Going back to 1.22 for now as I have now wasted 4 hours precious work tome just trying to get the device to work as it originally should!)
Russel
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
MDAIIIUser said:
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
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MDAIIIUser, which 1.40 rom are you using? The one from the original thread "New Rom 1.40 on FTP" or the one you converted from this thread "BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship" ? There should not be any differences between roms i think, but i find there are some subtle variances. Is it possible that conversion can corrupt the final rom produced? Your converted rom seems to work better for me but still need a soft reset now and then
converted to type I qtek 147.
It could be possible that conversion is corupt but dont think so, check wiki avlible roms and see the passed with new tool. all of these roms have been confirmed to work.
Sure I have issues with this rom but they are carry over from 1.02, 1.22, 1.31 and now 1.40. Most based on alarm issues as well as remove from power were i get locked due to i-pass (i think)
I will do a hex file compare on the 1.40 ce from qtec and see if i see anything.
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
I tried to download 1.40 - but got a country error - any suggestions?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II cont'd
Thanks for the reply - sorry a bit slow here.
I get there is a difference between types according to the origin - however how is it relevant? If I am coming from 1.22.162 (Type I) ext ROM should I make sure I only install a ROM upgrade that is type I? :?
Cheers
Russel
Clear text.
Type I roms work with tool xda3nbtool.exe
Tpye II roms give you a header error when used with tool.
Thus you can only upgrade type I roms unless you know the country code fix that seems to work.
Wiki is my prefered choice for downloading roms, in the case of the 1.40 I used the thread to download the converted 1.40 to type I rom which was not hard for me as I posted it. (its the qtek 1.40.147)
Thanks
Thanks MDAIIIuser. It is clear now.
Regards
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i saw your reply in another thread after comparing the 1.40 roms. How about the first 1.40 rom posted in this file BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar on the ftp? This should be the same as all the others right? I seem to have had fewer problems with this rom than the converted to type I qtek 147. My main problem seems to be turning the phone on after being in flight mode, losing network signal and GPRS sometimes not connecting. All need a soft reset to resolve. The from BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar gave me problems when trying to turn on wifi. Im using radio 1.12.
efjay
It takes me just over an hour to download roms of this site which I know is my problem.
I dont like working with baked roms as I can't post them to wiki as they are not complete,
I can't cook the Ext Rom as it to is not original,
I can't post the ext rom in wiki
and thus the hour download is a waste of my time.
I seem to spend enough time updating wiki and finding new roms on the web so sorry the answer is no I wont check that rom untill I see a original ship.exe.
You could though
MDAIIIUser, sure i would be happy to. Im not too sure what tool i should use to do a comparison. Im reading wiki, if its there ill find it. thanks
My choice would be ultracompare
http://www.ultraedit.com/
you will notice that the header is different this is due to the file timestamp and date.
Windows media player v10
MDAIIIuser or anyone else.
I upgraded my CE ROM to 1.40, however I cannot get windows media player to pick up any of my music files as valid .wma files. It also seems to be endlessly looking for a skin.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Russel
read something about that in one of the 3 threads on the 1.40 (well I think I did)
How to fix
DId a search for WMP problems - couldn't find anything useful at a quick glance. Any ideas how to resolve it?
Cheers
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i downloaded ultracompare and can see there are differences with all the 1.40 roms but the output doesnt make sense to me. I guess ill try all the roms and if there is a difference it should show up. thanks for your help
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Ok, I will preface this by saying I am a veteran of Wallaby upgrading. I had one of those for a long time and probably used two dozen different ROMs on it. I cooked my own, and I nearly paper-weighted it or the radio stack a gillion times. I can definitely figure things out for myself.
That said, there is very little useful information as to how the upgrade process works with the Blue Angel. For those of us in the US on Cingular with the SX66, we have no update out at all, and we're very much stuck.
Things I don't get:
1. Extended ROM. Actually, I know what it is. What I don't know is, because it exists, does that mean that the base ROM is completely carrier independant? In other words, if I take an Imate or Qtek ROM and install that, but keep my carrier's Ext ROM, will things be the same? (assuming the same language, WWE) Are the base ROMs ever updated, or is it the extended ROM?
2. Where are the tools? The wiki is very out of date, and I don't know what the proper tools are to use. Do I write to an SD card, or do it over USB?
3. Is the radio stack updated by a first run program on the device itself, or is that done from the computer? Do RSU updates come with base ROM updates?
4. There seem to be new security measures taken to hinder our tinkering with the ROMs. How safe is it to change things (for purposes of "going back")? I dunno what else to ask about this...
Feel free to answer any or all of these questions, and for the love of God, don't tell me to search--I did.
Well said, but good luck getting answer around here.
I'll give it a try, but some answer could be plainly wrong, since I don't have a blueangel.
Blueangel and himalaya upgrading are very similar so this page is not so outdated:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaRomkitchen
But the mayor problem is indeed the new encryption method used :
ER2003edit or xda3nbftools don't support it (yet)
thus :
* you can't change the countrycode/language anymore
* you can't change the extended rom ms_.nbf
but the extenderomunlocker still works for Blueangel, although you have to use the Blueangel version, so after an upgrade, you can still manipulate the extended rom on your pda & hard reset.
BlueAngel Extended Rom unlocker
Blue Angel Romkitchen thread
thread about the new encryption
Answers :
1: You probably will get a country code error if you try a nk.nbf from another provider. Base roms and radio rom do get upgrades, but I don't know which one are already available for blueAngel. Base and Radio are carrier independant.
2 : Tools : see links above
3 : see himalayaRomkitchen
4 : You can make a backup on SD, but can't seem to find a link right now.
I have downloaded this, and I would like to upgrade my qtek to this release. Can I just run the BaUpgradeUT or is there additional work that I would need to do. I bought it in the UK and its SIM unlocked. I have already upgraded the Radio ROM to 1.08.
my devicedata.txt reads as follows
PH20B 0 B WWE E DANGA001 1.22.00 0 0 1.22.162 1.06.00 06.00
NOTE: This was just before the Radio 1.08 upgrade.
What I can't seem to understand is if I need to do some cooking especially considering that my device is a QTEK and is WWE
I would appreciate your responses.
Hi NinjaMan. Where did you get this update? Please let me know how I can get same update. Thank you for you help.
[email protected]
Please browse the forum, it's all here...
To the both of you, read my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18128
It's all in there...easy heh?
Frontpage, I downloaded it from the FTP site here, however there has been some problem were someone has accidentally/deliberately deleted most of the files. However I just tried uploading the file back but got an "Upload failed" error. Basically, I couldn't create a directory to upload to nor could I upload to an already created director. I wil try and figure out another way to get you the file.
HappyGoat, believe me, I have read that thread, and I have also read the wiki getting started, this is how I upgraded to the versions displayed in my signature. The reason why I asked the question is because I cannot see the answer in the WIKI getting started or in your thread. This could be because I am DIM, which I don't have a problem accepting. Nonetheless, I would appreciate some help even if it a yes or no to the question I originally posted.
If someone with more knowledge tells me if it is possible for me to just run the upgrade based on the information I have provided in my original post, the plan would be to install and give my feedback as to performance. I just don't want to do it unless I am confident it would work.
HappyGoat, if you know the answer then please share, if the answer is in the thread you posted perhaps you can point me specifically to its whereabouts in the thread. I can't see it
the complete kpn files are in the root of the ftp site
However i didn't manage to install using baupgrade.
There was a folder in extended roms with the extended rom files from kpn. With the util to unlock and unhide the extended rom directory on your pda you be able to delete the old files and replace the kpn extended rom files. After that you can do a hard reboot and you have the kpn version. However it is better to edit the extended rom files a bit if you are not using KPN telecom as provider because it has some setupfiles that auto setup to kpn as provider. GPRS and MMS.
Ok, now i need some help
I disassembled baupgrade.exe and RUU.dll
Anyone can help change it a bit so it stops checking language and provider ¿ I think only baupgrade needs to be changed because ruu.dll is th file that contain's the routines to upgrade and reboot and get pda info and place's it into bootloader mode.
Looks to me that the only real difference, is the Extended ROM version...and as you probably know, the Ext. ROM contains mostly files that are put there by the Telco's.
What is does read in the thread I gave you, is that MDAIIIuser pulled this complete package apart and we all agreed that the contents of the Ext. ROM version were not shockingly different to the one you have right now...
Additionally, you could end up with a phone with dutch settings, KPN spash, and other custom KPN/dutch things. So, in my point of view, it is not worth the trouble.
But technically, you should have no problem upgrading, as the KPN ROM is WWE as well.
Hope that helps.
And eh, what is a "DIM"...?
Thanks Vastloper and Thanks HapyGoat.
O.K if the Real difference is in the Extended ROM version, then you gusys are probably right - its not worth the trouble. I don't really have any issues with my current setup apart from some bluetooth problems.
One last question - Is it worth upgrading my bluetooth to 3900. What are your experiences with 3900
bluetooth
If your bluetooth headset is making crackling noise when it is away more then 20 cm from your device then it is worth upgrading.
You need the bt3900 upgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Bleutooth CABS/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
After installing it you also need BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3320
this is for better audio.
Also, this is covered in several threads on this forum...the jury is still out as people experience different things for some reason.
Thanks Guys, appreciate your help. I do in fact experiencing the crackling noise, but I thought it could be to do with my BT Headset which is a cheap no name model.
I will give 3900 a go.
Thanks again guys
I have a PDA2K I bought from Expansys a couple months ago and I use it in the US with TMobile. I upgraded the BT to .0035 and last night upgraded the Radio to 1.10. I'd like to upgrade the ROM from 1.22.126 to 1.?. I've read every upgrade post in here and that is where I think I went wrong. I'm really confused on what I need to upgrade to now. Too much information.
Given the above information, can someone tell me what version is best for me? I looked on the FTP site and there was too many choices for this little newbie.
Thanks,
Tom
The highest is 1.40 with radio 1.12, there are 4 threads on the 1.40 and it seems a lot of people are going back to the 1.3x manich cooked or 1.31 arabic.
Its a free world, do what you feel is best.
Since I've seen your name all over the place, accompanied by very authoritative posts, can you "recommend" which one I should use? I'd like to go with the 1.4, but I'm not sure what file(s) exactly I need. I thought I did, but as I started reading more and more threads I got more confused. It seems like there are a couple different 1.4s out there. I already upgraded my BT and Radio, but I'm not sure if I need the ROM and/or the Extended ROM. I've looked at the various files on the FTP site and I get confused....my wife says it happens often with me.
While I've seen HOW to do it, I'm not sure WHICH one I need. Might you be kind enough to point out what I need?
Thanks,
Tom
Ce rom
On wiki download the qtec 1.40 type I CE Rom only file (avalible roms)
on wiki in the radio upgrade ->download the type I upgrade files
on wiki in getting started download the ->xda3nbtool.exe as welll as -> fix bat.
Put them all in the same dir, Fix and then flash the rom as per wiki.
EXt Rom
Now you need the ext rom 1.40.147 in the kitchen availble roms
on wiki download -> unlock tool in kitchen tools
Unlock, flush old, add new, add your cust cabs, lock Hard reset.
BT 1.39 is part of 1.40 rom so DONT cook those files in your ext rom.
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
Seems to have appeared as the FINAL offical release from t-mobile for uk users.
I've not tried it yet but the number does seem to suggest it is a slightly lower version than the Dutch one
EDIT MDAIIIUser
Added to wiki
no surprises
build of 2003se identical to Dutch rom previously released:
version 4.21.1088 (build 15159.2.6.4)
Extended rom just hasth changed regional settings (english UK default)
Added to wiki
Still a lot of echo.
Can't pair my Motorola HS820, BA sees the HS820, but error on connecting.
Anyone a fix for the echo and for the BT problem?
Use 1.40 before, was less a problem compaired to 1.42
Please help.
Regards,
Max
Report Back - T-Mobile Rom.. One week or so on..
Hi All,
Wanted to feedback my impressions of the new 1.42 T-Mobile UK Spec Rom..
Well, it's been interesting.. I now have (or have had) most of the faults that everyone else is experiencing.. I never used to get them at all with the i-mate 1.40 Rom or the NL 1.42 T-Mobile Rom.. I have listed the bugs below..
1 - One Hard-reset when inserted into GPS Car holder
2 - Several occasions where I've "lost" the Storage Card (when serching for it on the device AND through Active Sync)
3 - Interesting situation where I've started TomTom5 and I've suddenly had to go through the set-up process again only to be told that there's no maps (Can only attribute this to an occasion where the Storage Card is not seen by the PPC - See above).. Solved by remove Programs, soft-reset then re-install off SD Card.. (quite annoying as I was lost at the time!)
4 - Occasional failure for BT Headset being recognised on an in-coming call (I use the Logi-Tech Pro).. Solved by Soft-reset..
5 - Sometimes, after soft-reset, get a low performance from the Device.. ie, after soft-reset and switching to phone where it takes a few seconds to "build" the phone screen..
Strange but as I mentioned above, I don't recall getting these bugs on the 1.42 NL Rom or the i-mate 1.40 Rom.. I might try a hard re-set on Monday then re-install my tomTom, etc to see if it carries on.. If it does, I MIGHT switch back to the either :shock:
That's it really.. I have had the early T-Mobile 1.06, the i-mate 1.40, T-Mobile NL 1.42 and T-Mobile GB 1.42 and finally the WM5 Roms and from what I've seen, I place them in this order of preference..
1 - i-Mate 1.40
2 - T-Mobile NL 1.42
3 - T-Mobile GB 1.42
4 - WM5
5 - T-Mobile GB 1.06
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
dazed and confused
sorry if I'm being simple but ....
I though this was the last offical rom
http://www.iris-global.com/t_mobile_download/download_manager_mda_com.html
MA_TMUK_11300_128_11200_SHIP.exe
Rather than
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
How did you maanage to find the link?
What is the diference between the builds - How can I find a change log?
What is the BA / MA?
:?:
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31360
No difference in UK and NL Rom..?
[email protected] said:
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
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Hi Max,
The Rom is exactly the same and the only difference is the changes in the extROM that makes it either UK or NL Spec (ie, MMS settings, etc)
Hi Starfish - Perhaps you need to look at this for the answers to your other questions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_For_Beginners
Oh, and BA is "Blue Angel" and MA is the "Magician" HTC Names for the devices..
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
starfish_001 said:
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
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That's ok.. We all have to start somewhere.. 8)
Now, I'm not too sure how far advanced you are in Upgrading, etc but before you do, please remember the following that I put on another post on here..
MrPhilly said:
General Tips to you (and others)..
If you do want to update or upgrade then make sure you read everything through first.. Make sure you're happy in doing it.. Perhaps use the search function to read through others comments.. I would also recommend reading others comments about trying to downgrade from WM5 to WM2003SE to see what others have encountered
You will not believe the amount of people who end up posting questions when they've not followed the instructions from Wiki that I've pasted for you here..
Finally, if you are stuck, use the search command and describe your problem in the Keywords section, select Blue Angel from the Category and read through the posts relating to it before posting questions..
Hope this helps..?
Cheers!
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How can I upgrade to a stable rom
I have tried the TMobile NL and UK version both give the Country ID eror with the extra numbers 17-17-38-38-38
How can I safely upgrade to the 1.42 version (I have read the Getting Started With The Blue Angel) .
Is that the way to go?
"I get the password error on the xda3nbftool for the nbf segment"
I would like to get rid of all the phonesound failure and systemhangs with TomTom5.10
My Qtek9090
PH20B 0 B
WWE E
DANGA001
1.40.00 0 0
1.40.556
1.13.00 13.00
Upgraded to this from the last O2 update (my BA is an O2 Xda IIs), and while for the most part it works fine, now if the device turns the screen off for power-save while out and about, the GPRS connection drops. I know the hardware is capable of keeping the GPRS connection alive in such a situation because, well, it didn't drop it under the previous two O2 ROMs I ran.
Anyone else had this problem, or know a fix? Hopefully it's something simple that I've overlooked...
I'm getting better Bluetooth support with this (whether through actual improvements in the stack or through sheer dumb luck), so I'd prefer not to downgrade if I can avoid it.
Upgrade for NON OEM/Carrier Blue Angel
I have an unlocked OEM i-mate PDA2K. Because of this I am unable to install the T-Mobile upgrade to 1.42.
Is there a way to get around this?
I tried using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, but I was unsuccessful.
Any ideas on how to upgrade a non-T-mobile branded blue angel?
Thanks
problems upgrading a non-t-mobile branded PD2K
BELOW IS THE SCREENSHOT OF THE ERROR
Did you make sure you had the MAUpdate file in the same directory as the actual upgrade had been uncompressed into? Since it's missing the RUU.DLL file that is part of that package.
Basically, get the files out of the real upgrade, then copy the MAUpdate into that directory, then run it instead.
I can not unzip or unpackaged the shipped OS
When I double click on the file, it runs the file, when you right-click and select extract, it gives you an error.
How do you unpackage the ship package?
Me, I used WinZip, I think it was.
Can not unrar or unzip setup files from exe package
the instructions states:
Unrar or unzip all files in exe or rar into a new folder. I get an error when I do that.
I also noticed that the instructions states:
First Method (Quick/Easy) (TYPE II), but there is another method Second Method (Slower/Harder) (TYPE I)
I am going to give that a try
O2 XDA IIs
Hi from Greece,
A friend bring me to Greece from Singapore one O2 XDA IIs but it has a old versions:
rom 1.31.00 wwe
rom date: 12/13/04
radio v:1.02.00
protocol version: 1337.32
ExtROM version: 1.31.920 wwe
sorry but I'm newbie here, can you tell me what (and where can i find) I must download in order to update to the latest versions.
I allready download the latest version from O2.UK for O2-XDA IIS but I do not want to lock my device to any network and that's the reason who asked you and I do not install this I allready download.
I allready see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades but I don t now what I must download.
thk u
I've been looking now on how to unlock my orange uk kasier for about 2 weeks. I'm going to use Olipro's or jockyw2001's unlocker BUT in order to do this I need the original radio version of the phone which is 1.27.14.32 I've looked everywhere for this and just cant find it and reading some threads it seems like I'm not the only one. Can some one please help.
As I see it without this radio version I cant unlock my phone and therefore cant add other roms as the phone may sim lock and as this is a works phone I doubt I'll be able to ring myself to get the unlock code and it may raise my firms eye brows when I ring them to do it if I 'balls up' and as I've only had it 2 weeks i understand orange wont provide the codes for a miniumum of 3 months
Please dont flame me, I've read hundreds of posts but just cant seem to find this ( or is there another way round this )
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
check the rom development section and the wiki, you should be able to find a list of radio only flashes including that one.
Thanks Mr B, Cosmic Blue believe me I have looked and this radio is not anywhere.
Mister B when you 'upgraded' your phone could you still get notification of answer phone messages left on your phone, I've 'upgraded' a hermes before which was on orange and never got this function back unless i put a genuine orange rom on it ?
Hard to answer that one. I had my orange answer phone canceled via orange services prior to flashing.
Your other option is to dump the rom from your device & extract the radio to use for reflash
I think you'll find the notification is in the main rom not the radio.
I remember a few people having problems after flashing cooked roms.
Had some posts on this & a cab file with the required dll to fix it.
Might be worth doing a bit of searching on this.
Mister B said:
I had the same radio ROM on my Kaiser (Orange branded)
I used Radio ROM 1.27.12.32.
All went well & the device runs fine (no sound loss issues that some people had when trying 1.27.14.09)
If you did have ROM compatability issues you could upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM after unlocking.
I think all these files are available in the wiki.
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Everything you wanted to know about radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thanks Mister B, found the orange cab by Rabdo so nearly there now
Denco7 I'd checked that one already and no 1.27.14.32 which is what I'd really like as I know it works well on my tytn ii.
guess I'll have to look into dumping it then
1.27.14.32
I have that radio version (1.27.14.32) in my Orange UK TyTN II. I've dumped the ROM but I can't figure out how to reconstruct just the radio! If someone can help me I will will upload it.
I also had the same radio 1.27.14.32 and could not find it for download but after some reading I came across the Radio Mister B mentions above 1.27.12.32 and it worked fine (including the answer phone notification) with the Dutty rom I was using I think it was the (DualTouch V3). I've since upgraded to the L26 V9 rom with radio 1.58.25.17 and its still working fine, although I haven't had the chance to check answerphone notification.