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Orange M2000 upgrading (device info)

Hello
Have read the wiki and all the information and would like to upgrade however when it states select your original shippers rom, none of them match my details
I think i must have one of the first ones though cause i received my M2000 before all the stock issues occured with orange
Rom Details:
Operator Version: 5.12.1.139
ROM Version: 1.12.22 WWE
ROM Date: 09/27/04
Radio Version: 1.04.00
Protocol Version: 1337.35
ExtROM revsion: 1.12.139 WWE
any help would be appreciated as I really think its an old old release version
Thank You in advance

Welcome to the forum.
Your rom is old and we dont have many if any new Orange roms.
So if you want to upgrade the rom your best choice is the 1.40 and radio 1.10 or 1.12. (you will have to work out which one you need based on what you read here).
How to upgrade is on wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
You might have to think about your Ext rom, unlocking it and saving the Orange related things.
Read the stuff again in the kitchen and here is what you have to work out what you want to save.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_X_112139
Have fun and yes most of your questions have answeres in wiki.

got an m2000 also. didnt read the instructions before doing a rom upgrade. the first couple of times i thought i had destroyed the phone cos it wouldnt boot up. installed the imate latest update and works like a beauty. latest everything on it.cant see any major differences from old rom that i can notice. apart from different wifi icon (prefer new one) and windows media player 10 (great). as fro expternal rom i also installed the imate one cos the orange was nothing special. dont miss any of the setting from it apart from the gprs which i barely use just latch on to wifi wherever i go. too many unsecure wifi connections in north london anyway

my upgrade to the Imate rom is complete, however i am wondering if i use XBackUp's backup or the backup i made prior to the ROM upgrade using ActiveSync, will actually just revert the roms back to how they were or will it just keep the same info and just restore my missing data??
Thank You for helping
hmm started restore anyway (thought i'd go on an adventure) then read some posts and found its not a good idea.
so my question has now changed to not if i shud restore but how do i save the txt msgs from the fone and put them back once i have reflashed the phone again?
Thank You

Can I go back to WM2003?

I've got a Cingular SX66 that I upgraded to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_5.1.1700_build_14343_Upgrade]WM 5 Build 14343 from the XDA Wiki.
Windows Mobile 5 has been running pretty crappy - not letting me answer calls, running slowly, it just isn't worth upgrading to (for me, anyway).
I really want to go back to WM2003, but I've read that the http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=91465#91465]ROM doesn't work - can anyone help me out?
Is there a way I can downgrade back to WM2003 and have everything working? If you know how to do this or (preferably) have done it yourself, I'd really appreciate at least somewhat detailed instructions. Thanks.

Excuse me but did you do ANY research at all on this before you upgraded? Every other post here states " READ THE WIKI".... A couple minutes worth of browsing the forums here and you would have had enough first hand user accounts of WM5 and then maybe you could have made an intellegent decision regarding possibly turning your device into a "brick" and positively voiding your warranty.
If you look around just a little more you'll find that the downgrade is very painless. Mamaich and others have painstakinly documented the complete downgrade procedure. It's on the same page that you dl'ed the upgrade from ... the quick link is http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
Good luck!
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00

Wow. Did I do any research? Yes, I linked to a page with a discussion about people doing the downgrade and having their Radio completely not work.
I guess you made the exact same totally intelligent decision as I did when you yourself upgraded the exact same device to WM5?
If *you* take 10 seconds to check the link that you posted, you'll see that in step #2, the only ROM available for the SX66 did not pass their tests and that, oh, what's this? The Radio doesn't work, just like the discussion I linked to.
Please don't assume I'm an idiot. Hacking handheld ROMs is not something you should get all offensive and riled up about.
Thanks for nothing. Does anyone have any other info?

hmmm... I have pda2k and I upgrade and downgrade all teh time... is the problem you are talking about specific to sx66?

FedoraPunk I never meant to call you an idiot, just curious on why you did an upgrade after discovering that many people had problems going back? Yes I have the same device. And the first time I did the downgrade, back in July, there wasn't a step 2 ... I took a big chance when Buzz, Mamaich and company started this particular forum knowing that I could very well blow up my device. I'm not riled and I apoligize if I'm offensive to you, I just didn't understand your decision to upgrade after learning the facts.
I personally have upgraded and downgraded my device at least 15 times since then, with no problems going back to WM 2003 excepting an ocassional ActiveSync issue downgrading to 3.8
What I suggest is to use Chris' SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project at http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
Replace the Standard and Extended Roms with his cooked ROM's. Any problems just ask and I'll be happy to help.
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00

I have (personally) upgrade & downgrade SX66 myself using the link provided above and did not run into any issues.
What exactly are not working after downgrading? Maybe I can check (if I decided to downgrade again)

Ok, I got the right ROM from Chris's site (I chose the 1.33.51 because it's 2003 with WMP10) but I don't know which Radio ROM to flash - can I use 1.15.00? Or is there one that 2003 likes?

I'm using 1.15 with no problems. I personally use the 1.40 but that's me.
Good luck.
Steven
btw, I just went back to WM 2003 less than an hour ago ......
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

Aright, I got 2003 back on there no sweat.
I wanna put radio 1.15, but the directions I'm getting are confusing me. I've got an SX66, unlocked. Could someone send me the deviceinfo or whatever it is? I've got the ROM and the Update app, I'm just fuzzy on what else to do.

Simply replace the radio rom file (radio.nbf) with the new radio rom and run MaUpgradeUt_noID. Being that you've already installed the Rom of choice simply rename / move that file from the install directory on your PC. I personally have never lsot any data or configuration settings by upgrading the radio this way.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

I tried that, and got the device ID error. I need some file to tell the updater what device or something?

I have the same problem with that. I used to uninstall AS 4.1 and put 3.8 back on. However now I've gone back and forth so many times with AS that 4.1 won't entirely uninstall. I have to run AS 4.1 now. I use 2nd computer, install AS 3.8, do not configure sync. Place device in bootloader mode and the run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

Hell yeah - I had to figure out which radio 1.15 file to use, but I got this thing working and signal strength does seem better.

8125 Dropping Calls -- Radio ROM Upgrade?

Hello all,
I've upgraded my Cingular 8125 device to the latest official ROM from Cingular/HTC. These are my current versions:
ROM Version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date: 5/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM Version: 2.25.11.102
However, I've noticed that at least once or twice a day when I'm on a phone call, my call is suddenly dropped! I have to wait a few seconds before I'm able to make calls again. My guess is that there is something funky going on with the radio version that I'm using. Is there a later (more stable) radio ROM that I could upgrade to? Notice that I have my device configured quite well and I wouldn't want to wipe it out entirely again (as I already did to upgrade to the latest 2.25.11.1 Cingular-approved ROM). Is it possible to just upgrade the radio ROM without having to wipe my device again? If so, which radio ROM should I upgrade to, and where is it available?
Thanks!
Ryan

Ignore all I wrote, was a bit uninformed
sorry

Look for the 2.47.11 Radio Rom in the Wizad FTP section.
Molski

For the life of me, I can't find that ROM on the Wizard FTP site. Could you please post the path? Thanks!

_Nomad_ said:
I'm afraid that there isn't any way to upgrade to a later radio ROM for the wizard, there are a few later versions embedded in various ROMs available at the forum though there's always a minority of ppl that do experience call dropouts now and again with all of these, so upgrading doesn'y guaranty a solution . Best bet would in my opinion still be to hard reset your device and start from scratch... Best of luck
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Excuse me but WTF are you talking about?
btw, the 2.47.11 is here

way to go Dr Puttingham
I sure do love it when people provide real links instead of "go check this/that".
I have a question also. I am getting my new TMobile MDA from a this seller on eBay
I want to know what I should do first? Do I need to CID unlock, Registry unlock. If so, how and in what order. I plan to use a T-Mobile SIM card so I probably don't need SIM unlock at least for now unless it is required to do some of the apparently needed OS and radio ROM modifications. I got the radio ROM you provided, so I assume I will need that.

trpenner said:
I sure do love it when people provide real links instead of "go check this/that".
I have a question also. I am getting my new TMobile MDA from a this seller on eBay
I want to know what I should do first? Do I need to CID unlock, Registry unlock. If so, how and in what order. I plan to use a T-Mobile SIM card so I probably don't need SIM unlock at least for now unless it is required to do some of the apparently needed OS and radio ROM modifications. I got the radio ROM you provided, so I assume I will need that.
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From what I gather on here, you'll need to use a CID unlock, but only if you plan on putting an unbranded or custom ROM on your MDA...otherwise it will work find out of the box. Keep in mind that not having any restrictions (CID / Registry) is always preferred

rmlecompte said:
Hello all,
I've upgraded my Cingular 8125 device to the latest official ROM from Cingular/HTC. These are my current versions:
ROM Version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date: 5/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM Version: 2.25.11.102
However, I've noticed that at least once or twice a day when I'm on a phone call, my call is suddenly dropped! I have to wait a few seconds before I'm able to make calls again. My guess is that there is something funky going on with the radio version that I'm using. Is there a later (more stable) radio ROM that I could upgrade to? Notice that I have my device configured quite well and I wouldn't want to wipe it out entirely again (as I already did to upgrade to the latest 2.25.11.1 Cingular-approved ROM). Is it possible to just upgrade the radio ROM without having to wipe my device again? If so, which radio ROM should I upgrade to, and where is it available?
Thanks!
Ryan
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I have the exact same setup, with no customizations on my 8125 and am having a terrible time with calls dropping. Did you find the radio ROM upgrade and did it work?
Thanks.

its already been solved in another thread. apparently its the data connection trying to activate 4 min into a call and dropping the call. the fix is a reg change so that data knows to remain suspended.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=995659&postcount=272

How to?
Well I downloaded the radio ROM but I have no idea what to do next. I searched the site for how to install the update but came up empty.
Any information on how to install the new radio ROM would be appreciated.
As for the registry edit for data connection I am not sure that this is the solution as the calls drop at random intervals, not 4 minutes. I don't have anything (that I know of) which would be trying to create a data connection anyway.
For the registry edit I would need Total Commander correct? Is it really safe for a Noob like myself to make these changes? I can program a vcr but I once deleted part of my operating system in an attempt to get more disk space on my computer. Now I know better but not a lot better.
Thanks

Read this thread for info about Radio Rom Only Updaters...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268031

Thank you. Looks like exactly what I need. There wasn't the 2.47.11 radio rom in the list there but I will go through those steps to reinstall the ROM that I have and see what I can learn.

I installed the 2.47.11 radio ROM and calls kept dropping. I called Cingular and they assured me it must be the device so they are sending out my 4th 8125. I complained and made a nuisance of myself so they are sending me a free 8525 in addition to the 8125 I have. in the meantime I went to the Cingular store for a loaner so I wouldn't be dropping calls all the time. Even the nokia loaner was dropping all the calls, switched to my unlocked nokia 6820, still drops. Must be the network and not the device.

How to find out my IPL/SPL

Hi guys I have a new HTC Wing phone which has some issues with the GSM radio, I was going to update the radio for my device to solve the problem but I see that it requires an SPL/IPL version equal or higher than 4
Unfortunately, the IPL/SPL version numbers are not shown when I boot this device, is there any other way to find out
Here is the info I see on the device.
ROM version 4.10.531.3 WWE
Rom date: 03/15/07
Radio version: 02.83.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM version: 4.10.531.103
One other thing I have is that I have editied the registry to be able to see the band settings, however, the band information info is blank
Thanks in advance

Also a new Wing user (got it last week), and found out my IPL/SPL yesterday
You will see IPL/SPL info in bootloader
How you get into bootloader you ask?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
Try the following links as well. Keep reading, as there's a "wealth" of information on this site. I don't claim I am an expert on Wing, but I've been "soaking" in this site the last few days, and I "think" I know what I want/need to do
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
Hope this help
From another new Wing fellow

hey pal, yeah today I figured out I would check with the bootloader option and I could see the IPL/SPL version, did the radio update to version 8.xxx which is supposed to be the one everybody is using but still can´t get signal inside my apartment, I dunno if it is a particular problem of this one I have or if it is a more general issue, maybe I will try a ROM update...
anyway, thanks again for the reply

Just flashed my wing to Open Touch 3.0 Biggy, which include a new radio: 03.07.90
If you hate TMo ROM, or wanna try something new, maybe you should look into it

I flashed it to Toich It V2 but nothing has changed regarding reception quality while a wizard I have has perfect reception, I will try to install a ruu rom image instead and see what happens, the rom i have now shows nothing under device information which is weird to say the least

Dropping calls - NOOB Alert

Hi,
I am having a dropped call problem.
I have a tilt and have upgraded to the ATT 6.1 ROM. It says CE OS 5.2.1622 Build 18128.0.4.4. The ROM version is 1.62.502.0 dated 1/17/08. The radio version is 1.27.14.09. The Protocol Version is 22.45.88.07H.
It seems that when the calls drop, the arrows under the "H" or the "E" are showing that the radio is trying to connect.
I have installed the tweak application and am using most of the "recommended" settings. I also have HTC home customizer but that's about it.
I also have a problem with emails where occasionally instead of opening the email I've tapped it goes to the last application.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Dave

Try the download from the htc site, for whatever reason, i think you may have a radio compatible with 6.0. So you could also try a newer radio.

Try Upgrading
Hello Dave,
By the device information you have provided, it sounds like you have the older ATT Tilt ROM Upgrade From January. The newest one, that upgrades your radio, CE Build, and Protocol, also upgrades you to wm6.1. I don't believe you have 6.1 based on your device information. You can find the Rom Upgrade here: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94. You can also find detailed ROM Flashing Instructions if you haven't flashed before here: http://www.htc.com/uploadedFiles/Co...lt+Detailed+ROM+Installation+Instructions.pdf . FYI, if you haven't flashed before, you should remove your SIM and storage cards and disable storage card encryption before flashing and make sure that you hard reset before you flash. This update will update your radio and other device aspects that could very well solve your dropped call issues. Good luck,
-Dave

Thank you very much