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2i KILLING SD cards??!!

Hi,
Please note that I know there is a thread at the top about SD card issues, but this post is not about locking up, this post is about 2i killing SD cards, thanks.
I have had my XDA 2i for about 3 months. When I first bought it, I bought a Viking 1GB SD card to use with it. After a month or so, the SD card died. At that time I thought I had a faulty SD card, so I bought another Viking 512MB SD card.
To my horror, it died as well today.
Can't read the cards in any of my readers.
So question is - do I have a faulty 2i? Is it a common problem at all? Or is there a design problem with 2i? Or is the 2i not compatible with Viking SD cards?
It seems like people have great success with the Transcent cards regarding the lock-up issue. So does anyone know whether it is going to solve this "murdering" problem?
Many thanks,
Wayne

I'm sure i have seen this type of post before...but to be honnest i think it might be an isolated case, perhpas its only that brand of card the XDAIIi will "Kill"
Its more than likely that what causes your XDA to kill the Viking SD cards is the same thing that only causes other SD cards to freeze.
So perhaps Viking cards are more sensative to the XDAIIi (pain in the ass) problem.

Hmm... i've had 3 SD cards die on me recently too (a PQI 1GB, a Sandisk 256MB and a Pretec 128MB)... i thought it was just a bizaare coincidence or something but now you come to mention it... :?

I've also had two viking 1gb cards die on me each within a few days of receiving them!!!! I now use a Sandisk Ultra II 2gb card which works great apart from TomTom locking up if I don't turn of the phone radio stack.

I bought a 1gb Viking Card from Ebuyer and after about 2/3 months it dided Just got my replacement so finges crossed

I've had a similar problem with my IIi I went through 2 512Mb unbranded cards from mymemory.co.uk in the space of 3 weeks. The first when screwy and reconfigured itself to be a 30Mb card. The second was completly unreadable. I put it down to me being a cheap-scate and buying unbranded products. :wink:
For the past six months I have been running without an SD related hitch (touch wood) using a Sandisk 1Gb Ultra II.

Same here.
The thing is that my 1Gb Viking card only lasted 4 days!!!!
:? :? :?
I want to get another kind of card but i´m no sure what´s the best one out there.

I think I am gonna give Transcend a go...
Viking is definitely a no-no.
Really shouldn't have just gone for the cheapest

Most SD cards have long warranty periods. Get on to either the manufacturer or the retailer and get them replaced. I once had a Sandisk card die on me and it was replaced straight away. Its replacement is still working in my digital camera now.

i too had a kingston totally die on me ,and at the same time i dropped my pda and it went skidding along the foor and was bust ,so i went back to o2 and told a small lie and so got a new 1 as it was only a week old at the time so i never found out if it was the pda or sd card ,i have now had the same sd card for a few months now no problem ...it's a transend

Those SD Card from Viking and Kingston are known faulty with XDA...
I never buy these brands of SD Card..
Try KingMax If U like, it works perfect with mine xda2 and xda2i

I had my 512 Mb Kingston SD card killed with my Alpine too
This is not a city-myth for me anymore..

Hmm... Did not heard something about broking A-Data's card. Now using one 150x 2Gb. No problems at all.

Killing SD cards
Hi
Yep same here 4 cards have been murdered by my XDA11i, a sandisk 256 and a couple of lesser sizes, all worked in my inbuilt laptop card reader till they went in the XDA. Now all i get is this card is write protected and its NOT!..Worse of all it also kills RS MMC out of my nokia 6680 so beware. These cards came brand new and played perfectly in the laptop then a couple of sessions in the XDA and bang This disk is write protected, they will be written to when in the nokia and synced by usb cable but the laptop will not write to them at all..
Getting dissapointed with the XDA11i doing this and constantly freezing looking like time to offload on ebay
Dave

OK MY Replacement Viking from Ebuyer has just died so, The Vkiings are not good for the XDA then.

hi,i popped in here after a freind pointed this out to me.
I have spent the last 3 mths checking out suppliers of sd memory for resale thru my business and most of the brands mentioned here are the ones ive come accross.
however whats not on the packet when you buy these wonders of technology is that they are modified from Rejects off the lines.
they are also modified from 128/256/512 low quality chips.
this means that compression routines have been applied to them to produce a fake formating size.
i found,purely by accident,that if you stick your sd card in a palm pda,it will read off the original manufacturers code which looks like this 0128********,0256*********,0512********* and tru 1 gig are 0000********.i personally have only just(after 3 mths)managed to secure a shipment that has been tested to be true 1 gig.thank god.
just thought this mite help you.

my sandisk died too
Bought a 1G sandisk card and ive only had it for 3months and all im getting with the 2i is a freezing screen.I soft reset at least 10 -20 times a day.Im begining to wonder if something is wrong with the 2i.Sometime the only way to start up normally is removing the card .Can someone please advice me which 1G card works best with 2i.I ve heard the transend work ok..Thanks

3 Solutions for SD cards that don't work anymore in a PDA !
1/ Try to format with your pc or other card reader (like in pc or printer).
2/ Try to format it with PocketMechanic (dowload the free trial)
There are many options : format logical, ntfs, fat, for digital
camera,pda,...
With this tool I could reformat the card and use it again
3/ Buy a Kingston Elite Pro card in future or other with LIFETIME WARANTY
I once had a card that couldn't be fixed from Kingston, it had LIFETIME
waranty! Yess KINGSTON ELITE PRO series offer that. I just posted it
internationally to London's office with RMA nr, and received a NEW SD
Card in plastic! Speaking of service!
Bought this card from an Ebay shop. I don't know how the service is
with other brands, but some have 5y waranty, you can try to return it.
Hope helping ya all!
XDAIIi still is the best, now an XDAIIi with build in GPS Antenna and we have a real all in solution

My XDAIIi might have killed Kingston 512 SD card
hi
I have a XDAIIi purchased about 4months ago.
My XDA IIi is having a lot of problems and it also may have killed my 2 months old kingston 512 MB SD card...
I tried some data recovery softwares but they did not help.
So I brought the damaged SD card to data resucue service but they could not fix data structure of SD card.... saying as below.
I have tested your SD Memory card. The card is certainly faulty. It’s a hardware fault with the memory unit. As s solid state memory ship there is no way to repair this. After further investigation, it appears this problem is very common and reports of the same brand sd card have also been reported on the internet.
I’m sorry but we have no way to extract the data off a faulty SD card like this. The size of the car is defaulting to the factory setting of 2 TB (which is HUGE!!) and other software reports it as a RAW card at 0mb.
Normally if for example the card has been accidentally formatted or the file system has been corrupted we could have easily recover the data but in this case of a hardware fault we have no method to help you. We have tried everything for you. As I told you, it was worth trying. There is no charge to you.
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And they suggested me to use less MB Sd card with the pda,
i have two other 256 sundisk SD cards but they seem to be OK.
regards
Tom

SD
Hi
Mine froze up repeatable until I found this site and removed my 128 ULTIMA. I then removed my PANASONIC 256 “Hi Speed” (supposedly but does not say what speed on the card) from my camera and all is good so far.:shock:

4GB MiniSD Topram

I just bought a topram 4GB MiniSD card and an adaptor for my XDAIIi but am my machine does not see it when I plug it in. Has any one upgraded to 4GB or have used topram or knows how to solve this problme please?

I'm using a MMC+ 4Go and a SD 15x 4Go both from Transcend and they work perfectly

thanks for the reply. Pls comment
I found this on ebay 300098174136. Many Transcend devices but I am not sure about 15X. I assume that 15X is the speed? dose it have to be 15X or can it be other? there are many 80X,120X, and 150X but not 15X! I appreciate if you have any advise. THX

mnazmi said:
I just bought a topram 4GB MiniSD card and an adaptor for my XDAIIi but am my machine does not see it when I plug it in. Has any one upgraded to 4GB or have used topram or knows how to solve this problme please?
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What a coincidence, I have the same card. Topram 4GB miniSD bought from Ebay. First one died in less than a week for some reason, wouldn't read at all on the PC or Phone, but they replaced it with no problem. The new one seems to be working ok. I did notice that the first time I put it in the computer to read using the adaptor it didnt recognize, but the phone did. So I started moving the MiniSD card a litte out of the adaptor it self so it is flush with the outside of the adaptor itself. Then it showed up. Maybe its the connects or terminals itself. Dont really know

Sorry, it was a typo error
The SD card is 150x not 15x
and the MMC is actually a MMC+
both are 4Go from Transcend
Keep in mind that these kind of cards are limited to 10 000 insertion/removal cycles, after that they are dead

Pls give a little more info.
daddy_yankee1980: did you actually used your card with an XDA? I have done all I could but my Topram will not work with the pocket pc.
BigDede: did you buy these two item on line? and if so do you have any links to them. I want to make sure I buy the right item this time.
Thanks...

mnazmi
I bought it in a shop in Paris, but it's a Transcend 150x 4Go SD card
You can buy it from anywhere and be sure it will work
cheers

a 2gb topram just seems to have died on me first day, it worked i reformated it to fat32 put in my pocketpc, but it did not see any card... put it back in comp there is no card either, played around for many hours trying to format or read or something... even trying low level format softare which im sure if it works... no luck at all
i thought maybe it was the format, but im doubting that now seeing how unreliable but yet cheap these cards are

SD RAM for XDA IIi. For information..
I bought a mini-sd ram 4GB Transam (with adaptor) which did not work in my XDAIIi.
I then bought this Transcend 4GB MMCplus Card (300098174136) form ebay at an increadibly cheap price and if works like a treat.

I'm glad it worked for you
Transcend is a very good brand

SDHC-support (hack/update/other)

It's simple: I'm looking for an SDHC-support update/hack/driver/other for Blue Angel (Qtek 9090).
Can anybody help me?

Yes, it's rather easy: sell BA, buy sth that supports SDHC out of the box.
More complicated solution: wait until more devices will support SDHC, then sell BA and buy it.
So far we can forget about update of drivers to support SDHC and, what is more probable, device itself is not capable of suppoorting SDHC.

Thanks for you respons even though I don't like the sound of it.
Nothing at all I can do to get my Blue Angel på support SDHC? Nothing?

For sure something can be done
1. Write driver that supports SDHC, if chip inside is capable of reading SDHC cards. If not:
2. Unsolder reader and solder a new one in it's place, that supports SDHC for sure. Then write driver.
In both cases it will be easier and cheaper to just buy new deivce.
BTW: yo you know, that BA reads easily 4GB SD cards, that are not SDHC (a bit out of standard, but still possible)? Maybe it would be enough for you?

Ok. I'll sell the 8 GB SDHC-card and buy another (not HC) SD-card.
Thanks...

From all the technical datasheet I've gathered so far, it's all in the drivers.
Not even the device reader's firmware.
Right now I'm just waiting for a WM5 device that fully supports SDHC so we can lift the driver out of it, but that chance of that is slim as they'll all most liekly be WM6. Anyway, there is a possibility and I'm not giving up that easily.

So when is it possible for a sdhc-driver for Blue Angel to come out? Soon or should I sell my 8 GB SDHC and buy a 4 GB SD?

If you want to have more flash on your BA, you should buy no-SDHC card. Even it there will be any device on WM5 that reads SDHC, there is little chance it will work correctly in WM5 on BA.
And chances of having new device on WM5 are also lower and lower, as WM6 is the mainstream today.

8gb SD
My 8GB SD card (not SDHC) does not work in my BA.
Anyone know if a driver has been released?

Forget about driver. So far.
Where have you bought 8GB SD that is not HC? Any links?
What reader it is compatible with this (rather odd) thing?

8GB SD
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?

Does the Athena support SDHC?

AbuGWM5: I don't think there can be SD card that is both SD and SDHC compatible. It's like having a partition formatted both Fat32 and EXT2 at the same time.
hardingt0110: This is BlueAngel forum, isn't it?

The only non HC 8 gig SD cards are MMC. These can be made to work with driver support. It's all in the data transfer. Here's all you ever wanted to know about SD cards http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/88442-8-gb-card-hunting-tips.html

AbuGWM5 said:
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?
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I just looked on ebay (US and UK) and all the 8 gig SD cards I saw were SDHC. Have a link to one of these cards that are not SDHC?

8gb SD
Here's the link to the 8gb SD card:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150X-8GB-OEM-...yZ122613QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry for the mis-understanding: i meant 8gb SD card with a reader that is compatible with SDHC.
MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
PS buy at your own risk from the above seller he is very slow with delivery approx 4 weeks from USA and his cards may not be x150.
If you really want this 8gb sd card pm me if you'd like to purchase from me.

"8GB Secure Digital™ SD SDHC"
That card will not work in the BA, it's an SDHC card.

AbuGWM5 said:
MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
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MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard

mmc sd
jakubd said:
MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard
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Thanks jakubd

8GB Adata SDHC Card

I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks

i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable

Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??

ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha

I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya

svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??

Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card

I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.

Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.

4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.

I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.

As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?

16GB Micro SDHC work with my Kaiser?

just wondering if it will, as there are some for £55 and all my mp3s on here will be ace!
read that it only takes 8GB?
thanks

in theory it should work since it handles any microsdhc card up to 32gb.it hasn't been tested for any cards over 8gb since none are buyable yet.

And those new 16GB micro sd cards should have been for sale somewhere in June or July.
But of course its August now and still no sign of them...

usually waiting longer is better so the products are perfected more and tested thoroughly.i don't think any of us want a card that goes totally corrupted within the first 6 months of usage

Well the second somebody purchases a 16G7 micro sd card plz do tel how it feels and of course..DOES IT WORK.
We are able to, most likely able to use up to 32gb...so 16 should work like a charm...for me the 8 gig doesn't seem like enough and I don't wanna ever buy another card again for my kaiser and future devices...I got my 2gig micro sd card for $10 on craigslist brand new..and it came with a very sick tool...a micro sd usb adapter..one of the best accessories for the kaiser or any micro sd ppc device. I use it all the time and every comp has a usb slot so its compatable with everything, its great for swapping cabs and documents quick.
l...So anyway plz whoever gets over an 8 gig sdhc card like a 16g plz tell us if it works and how fast it transfers files and all that.

where do you get them ?

Jonathan1683 said:
where do you get them ?
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More like when do you get them? They're not on the market yet.