Hi - my first post, after lurking and trying to get my head round my new Orange SPV M2000... I'm reasonably tech-competent, but not across the whole baking and cooking thing...
Basically, here's my DeviceData:
PH20B 0 B WWE E ORANG001 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.179 1.06.02 06.02
Which seems to me, apart from the Radio version, more or less up-to-date... But I am wondering whether I ought to upgrade or change anything, and if so, what should I expect to happen? And how to find out what version of the BLuetooth stack I have...
Any layman-friendly advice seriously appreciated - Orange tech support is laughable.
Ta...
You are running 1.40.00 System ROM, which means you have the 3900 build of the BT stack.
Should you upgrade the radio, ok, so ask yourself, does the phone work well now? I submit, that with the 1.06.02 radio you really are not going to see much difference going to 1.13.00, so I won't upgrade.
-Chris
I've one of these phones on Orange and I did upgrade my Radio ROM to 1.13.00 and whilst I've had no problems with normal calls the GPRS has gone a bit haywire - I've dropped back to the original 1.06.02 version which the phone shipped with and that's put things right.
Thanks for helping out with that - reassured...
I dont belive theres a copy of the orange 1.40 rom on the FTP?
is there anychance you could upload a copy to the ftp???
Related
Hello
Have read the wiki and all the information and would like to upgrade however when it states select your original shippers rom, none of them match my details
I think i must have one of the first ones though cause i received my M2000 before all the stock issues occured with orange
Rom Details:
Operator Version: 5.12.1.139
ROM Version: 1.12.22 WWE
ROM Date: 09/27/04
Radio Version: 1.04.00
Protocol Version: 1337.35
ExtROM revsion: 1.12.139 WWE
any help would be appreciated as I really think its an old old release version
Thank You in advance
Welcome to the forum.
Your rom is old and we dont have many if any new Orange roms.
So if you want to upgrade the rom your best choice is the 1.40 and radio 1.10 or 1.12. (you will have to work out which one you need based on what you read here).
How to upgrade is on wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
You might have to think about your Ext rom, unlocking it and saving the Orange related things.
Read the stuff again in the kitchen and here is what you have to work out what you want to save.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_X_112139
Have fun and yes most of your questions have answeres in wiki.
got an m2000 also. didnt read the instructions before doing a rom upgrade. the first couple of times i thought i had destroyed the phone cos it wouldnt boot up. installed the imate latest update and works like a beauty. latest everything on it.cant see any major differences from old rom that i can notice. apart from different wifi icon (prefer new one) and windows media player 10 (great). as fro expternal rom i also installed the imate one cos the orange was nothing special. dont miss any of the setting from it apart from the gprs which i barely use just latch on to wifi wherever i go. too many unsecure wifi connections in north london anyway
my upgrade to the Imate rom is complete, however i am wondering if i use XBackUp's backup or the backup i made prior to the ROM upgrade using ActiveSync, will actually just revert the roms back to how they were or will it just keep the same info and just restore my missing data??
Thank You for helping
hmm started restore anyway (thought i'd go on an adventure) then read some posts and found its not a good idea.
so my question has now changed to not if i shud restore but how do i save the txt msgs from the fone and put them back once i have reflashed the phone again?
Thank You
Hi,
Have been reading the forum for a number of hours now....
I have big problems with my XDAIIs locking up. I am pretty certain it relates to the rom / image supplied with the phone - It locks up far more when O2 active (v3.6) is running.
I have read the sections on which upgrades but am more than a little confused. Can someone point me at the correct ROM to use. I downloaded the Qtek 1.40 rom but get region errors when i try and install. I have being trying to get my head round how i avoid this but guess im being stupid.
Help
Paul.
my rom 1.31.00 WWE
radio 1.13.00 (managed to update this)
ext rom 1.31.139 WWE
Paul, if you can, try doing a hard reset and when it asks for corporate or personal select corporate and put in the code 0506. It will then not install the O2 active software. It stopped mine hanging.
Hope it helps mate.
Jim
cool. will try that...
i actually managed to get it on 1.40 rom now.... just wish i had written down the gprs settings for o2...
Oh also read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24480
but to be honest I tried that 1.40 rom and I had camera problems so I went back to the 1.31.00 WWE and it's fine for me mate (yes my radio is 1.13.00 as well now and my extended rom is an allsorts mix, but I'd read a lot more before fiddling with it!)
Ah, you've sorted it (I was typing as you replied). You could go back to the standard rom and then take note of the settings (I didn't as I'm too tight to pay for GPRS so I don't use it at all).
Let me know how you get on mate, especially try your camera.
Good luck.
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
Seems to have appeared as the FINAL offical release from t-mobile for uk users.
I've not tried it yet but the number does seem to suggest it is a slightly lower version than the Dutch one
EDIT MDAIIIUser
Added to wiki
no surprises
build of 2003se identical to Dutch rom previously released:
version 4.21.1088 (build 15159.2.6.4)
Extended rom just hasth changed regional settings (english UK default)
Added to wiki
Still a lot of echo.
Can't pair my Motorola HS820, BA sees the HS820, but error on connecting.
Anyone a fix for the echo and for the BT problem?
Use 1.40 before, was less a problem compaired to 1.42
Please help.
Regards,
Max
Report Back - T-Mobile Rom.. One week or so on..
Hi All,
Wanted to feedback my impressions of the new 1.42 T-Mobile UK Spec Rom..
Well, it's been interesting.. I now have (or have had) most of the faults that everyone else is experiencing.. I never used to get them at all with the i-mate 1.40 Rom or the NL 1.42 T-Mobile Rom.. I have listed the bugs below..
1 - One Hard-reset when inserted into GPS Car holder
2 - Several occasions where I've "lost" the Storage Card (when serching for it on the device AND through Active Sync)
3 - Interesting situation where I've started TomTom5 and I've suddenly had to go through the set-up process again only to be told that there's no maps (Can only attribute this to an occasion where the Storage Card is not seen by the PPC - See above).. Solved by remove Programs, soft-reset then re-install off SD Card.. (quite annoying as I was lost at the time!)
4 - Occasional failure for BT Headset being recognised on an in-coming call (I use the Logi-Tech Pro).. Solved by Soft-reset..
5 - Sometimes, after soft-reset, get a low performance from the Device.. ie, after soft-reset and switching to phone where it takes a few seconds to "build" the phone screen..
Strange but as I mentioned above, I don't recall getting these bugs on the 1.42 NL Rom or the i-mate 1.40 Rom.. I might try a hard re-set on Monday then re-install my tomTom, etc to see if it carries on.. If it does, I MIGHT switch back to the either :shock:
That's it really.. I have had the early T-Mobile 1.06, the i-mate 1.40, T-Mobile NL 1.42 and T-Mobile GB 1.42 and finally the WM5 Roms and from what I've seen, I place them in this order of preference..
1 - i-Mate 1.40
2 - T-Mobile NL 1.42
3 - T-Mobile GB 1.42
4 - WM5
5 - T-Mobile GB 1.06
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
dazed and confused
sorry if I'm being simple but ....
I though this was the last offical rom
http://www.iris-global.com/t_mobile_download/download_manager_mda_com.html
MA_TMUK_11300_128_11200_SHIP.exe
Rather than
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
How did you maanage to find the link?
What is the diference between the builds - How can I find a change log?
What is the BA / MA?
:?:
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31360
No difference in UK and NL Rom..?
[email protected] said:
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
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Hi Max,
The Rom is exactly the same and the only difference is the changes in the extROM that makes it either UK or NL Spec (ie, MMS settings, etc)
Hi Starfish - Perhaps you need to look at this for the answers to your other questions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_For_Beginners
Oh, and BA is "Blue Angel" and MA is the "Magician" HTC Names for the devices..
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
starfish_001 said:
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
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That's ok.. We all have to start somewhere.. 8)
Now, I'm not too sure how far advanced you are in Upgrading, etc but before you do, please remember the following that I put on another post on here..
MrPhilly said:
General Tips to you (and others)..
If you do want to update or upgrade then make sure you read everything through first.. Make sure you're happy in doing it.. Perhaps use the search function to read through others comments.. I would also recommend reading others comments about trying to downgrade from WM5 to WM2003SE to see what others have encountered
You will not believe the amount of people who end up posting questions when they've not followed the instructions from Wiki that I've pasted for you here..
Finally, if you are stuck, use the search command and describe your problem in the Keywords section, select Blue Angel from the Category and read through the posts relating to it before posting questions..
Hope this helps..?
Cheers!
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How can I upgrade to a stable rom
I have tried the TMobile NL and UK version both give the Country ID eror with the extra numbers 17-17-38-38-38
How can I safely upgrade to the 1.42 version (I have read the Getting Started With The Blue Angel) .
Is that the way to go?
"I get the password error on the xda3nbftool for the nbf segment"
I would like to get rid of all the phonesound failure and systemhangs with TomTom5.10
My Qtek9090
PH20B 0 B
WWE E
DANGA001
1.40.00 0 0
1.40.556
1.13.00 13.00
Upgraded to this from the last O2 update (my BA is an O2 Xda IIs), and while for the most part it works fine, now if the device turns the screen off for power-save while out and about, the GPRS connection drops. I know the hardware is capable of keeping the GPRS connection alive in such a situation because, well, it didn't drop it under the previous two O2 ROMs I ran.
Anyone else had this problem, or know a fix? Hopefully it's something simple that I've overlooked...
I'm getting better Bluetooth support with this (whether through actual improvements in the stack or through sheer dumb luck), so I'd prefer not to downgrade if I can avoid it.
Upgrade for NON OEM/Carrier Blue Angel
I have an unlocked OEM i-mate PDA2K. Because of this I am unable to install the T-Mobile upgrade to 1.42.
Is there a way to get around this?
I tried using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, but I was unsuccessful.
Any ideas on how to upgrade a non-T-mobile branded blue angel?
Thanks
problems upgrading a non-t-mobile branded PD2K
BELOW IS THE SCREENSHOT OF THE ERROR
Did you make sure you had the MAUpdate file in the same directory as the actual upgrade had been uncompressed into? Since it's missing the RUU.DLL file that is part of that package.
Basically, get the files out of the real upgrade, then copy the MAUpdate into that directory, then run it instead.
I can not unzip or unpackaged the shipped OS
When I double click on the file, it runs the file, when you right-click and select extract, it gives you an error.
How do you unpackage the ship package?
Me, I used WinZip, I think it was.
Can not unrar or unzip setup files from exe package
the instructions states:
Unrar or unzip all files in exe or rar into a new folder. I get an error when I do that.
I also noticed that the instructions states:
First Method (Quick/Easy) (TYPE II), but there is another method Second Method (Slower/Harder) (TYPE I)
I am going to give that a try
O2 XDA IIs
Hi from Greece,
A friend bring me to Greece from Singapore one O2 XDA IIs but it has a old versions:
rom 1.31.00 wwe
rom date: 12/13/04
radio v:1.02.00
protocol version: 1337.32
ExtROM version: 1.31.920 wwe
sorry but I'm newbie here, can you tell me what (and where can i find) I must download in order to update to the latest versions.
I allready download the latest version from O2.UK for O2-XDA IIS but I do not want to lock my device to any network and that's the reason who asked you and I do not install this I allready download.
I allready see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades but I don t now what I must download.
thk u
I've got a Cingular SX66 that I upgraded to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_5.1.1700_build_14343_Upgrade]WM 5 Build 14343 from the XDA Wiki.
Windows Mobile 5 has been running pretty crappy - not letting me answer calls, running slowly, it just isn't worth upgrading to (for me, anyway).
I really want to go back to WM2003, but I've read that the http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=91465#91465]ROM doesn't work - can anyone help me out?
Is there a way I can downgrade back to WM2003 and have everything working? If you know how to do this or (preferably) have done it yourself, I'd really appreciate at least somewhat detailed instructions. Thanks.
Excuse me but did you do ANY research at all on this before you upgraded? Every other post here states " READ THE WIKI".... A couple minutes worth of browsing the forums here and you would have had enough first hand user accounts of WM5 and then maybe you could have made an intellegent decision regarding possibly turning your device into a "brick" and positively voiding your warranty.
If you look around just a little more you'll find that the downgrade is very painless. Mamaich and others have painstakinly documented the complete downgrade procedure. It's on the same page that you dl'ed the upgrade from ... the quick link is http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
Good luck!
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00
Wow. Did I do any research? Yes, I linked to a page with a discussion about people doing the downgrade and having their Radio completely not work.
I guess you made the exact same totally intelligent decision as I did when you yourself upgraded the exact same device to WM5?
If *you* take 10 seconds to check the link that you posted, you'll see that in step #2, the only ROM available for the SX66 did not pass their tests and that, oh, what's this? The Radio doesn't work, just like the discussion I linked to.
Please don't assume I'm an idiot. Hacking handheld ROMs is not something you should get all offensive and riled up about.
Thanks for nothing. Does anyone have any other info?
hmmm... I have pda2k and I upgrade and downgrade all teh time... is the problem you are talking about specific to sx66?
FedoraPunk I never meant to call you an idiot, just curious on why you did an upgrade after discovering that many people had problems going back? Yes I have the same device. And the first time I did the downgrade, back in July, there wasn't a step 2 ... I took a big chance when Buzz, Mamaich and company started this particular forum knowing that I could very well blow up my device. I'm not riled and I apoligize if I'm offensive to you, I just didn't understand your decision to upgrade after learning the facts.
I personally have upgraded and downgraded my device at least 15 times since then, with no problems going back to WM 2003 excepting an ocassional ActiveSync issue downgrading to 3.8
What I suggest is to use Chris' SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project at http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
Replace the Standard and Extended Roms with his cooked ROM's. Any problems just ask and I'll be happy to help.
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00
I have (personally) upgrade & downgrade SX66 myself using the link provided above and did not run into any issues.
What exactly are not working after downgrading? Maybe I can check (if I decided to downgrade again)
Ok, I got the right ROM from Chris's site (I chose the 1.33.51 because it's 2003 with WMP10) but I don't know which Radio ROM to flash - can I use 1.15.00? Or is there one that 2003 likes?
I'm using 1.15 with no problems. I personally use the 1.40 but that's me.
Good luck.
Steven
btw, I just went back to WM 2003 less than an hour ago ......
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00
Aright, I got 2003 back on there no sweat.
I wanna put radio 1.15, but the directions I'm getting are confusing me. I've got an SX66, unlocked. Could someone send me the deviceinfo or whatever it is? I've got the ROM and the Update app, I'm just fuzzy on what else to do.
Simply replace the radio rom file (radio.nbf) with the new radio rom and run MaUpgradeUt_noID. Being that you've already installed the Rom of choice simply rename / move that file from the install directory on your PC. I personally have never lsot any data or configuration settings by upgrading the radio this way.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00
I tried that, and got the device ID error. I need some file to tell the updater what device or something?
I have the same problem with that. I used to uninstall AS 4.1 and put 3.8 back on. However now I've gone back and forth so many times with AS that 4.1 won't entirely uninstall. I have to run AS 4.1 now. I use 2nd computer, install AS 3.8, do not configure sync. Place device in bootloader mode and the run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00
Hell yeah - I had to figure out which radio 1.15 file to use, but I got this thing working and signal strength does seem better.
Hello all.
I just found this place and it's great!
I am in the USA and I have a Siemens SX66 with Cingular, running the default ROMS.
I've read there has been issues with with WM5 and others seem to not have any trouble.
What ROMs should I upgrade to?
From links here I also found: http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
Are system ROM 1.40.00 and Radio ROM 1.13.00 my best options?
Thanks again, this is really a great site!
I personally would suggest applying the standard and extended ROM's from Chris' SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project which you referenced, then upgrading the radio to 1.15. WM5 is cewl looking and the persistent storage can be a life saver. I go back and forth, probably more than 30 times, hoping that one day the speed and reliability will come through. Being a corporate geek / consultant that hates crackberries I dream of true push mail. However I'm so dependant on Microsoft Voice and my BT that I keep going back to WM 2003, Chris' ROM's being the best.
Best of luck to you in whichever way you go.
btw, Cingular is releasing the 8125 this month! YIPPEE !!!
(guess the wife will get my BA has a hand me down... )
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00
I recently upgraded to 1.42 with my own Extended Rom. Since then (probably two weeks ago), I haven't had to reset my phone for one-way sound, wifi not wanting to turn on, bluetooth insufficient driver memory or any of the other minor problems that forced me to reset my phone at least every other day with the 1.40 rom.
If you are going to try the upgrade, copy this extended rom to your device, then use the BA_TMNL_14200_115_11300_ship upgrade (delete all nbf files except nk.nbf). I was able to use the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file to load this rom. I think I had to run it twice (first time it puts the device in bootloader mode but gives error, leave it in the bootloader mode and run it again.)
BTW, I had already upgraded to radio 1.15, so you might want to do that first.
Hmmm. FTP not working for me from work, I'll upload the ExtRom tonight and update this post.